El Callejon del Beso and Other Legends From Guanajuato

Hello, Hello, this is Christina and Carmen and this is another episode of his Pooky Tells, the podcast for all things spooky, myths, legends, haunted places, entry crime in Latin America. Today's topic, Yes, but before we get to that, we have a listener story. And if you have a story that you want to send to us, you can email as Pooky Toes at gmail dot com. You can DM it to us on any of the socials. You can leave it as a common on TikTok, you can call it a spooky hotline. There's so many ways to get it to us, and we love receiving them absolutely, and we need more, so send them to us, please please, And we have more than one story and you already sends us one. Send us more. Send us all your stories. Yeah, all of them, the theos and tias and thugs. Do they have stories, the primas, the premes like, send them to us, all of them without their mission. That's fine, they don't need to know. No change our names unless you also can recommend the podcast to them. Then they'll know true true, then get their permission. Yeah. Today's story is from Judy, who has sent us another story before, which was about her reflection in her windows, smiling at her super scary, so creepy. Yeah, and so this is the same story from the perspective of her sister, Chris. So here it goes. We were raised to believe that animals consense things humans can't, especially when it comes to the supernatural. When we were kids, our dad once told us that a previous owner had been murdered and that his family found his body in the attic. One night, Judy and I were visiting and watching TV in the living room when all five of our dogs suddenly walked over to the hallway. Curious, we followed them. Then, in perfect unison, all the dogs looked up at the ceiling right where the attic hatch was. They all had the same intense stare, and they were very still. I turned to ask Judy, what do you think they're looking at? But when I turned to face her, she was gone. I started to panic, thinking something had happened to her, or worse, that something had taken her. I was walking all through the house whispering her name as loudly as I could. I have no clue how it was spring because you were scared. Probably by that time, the dogs had gone back to acting completely normal. Judy's dog wandered over to the window and started whining. I ran to the front door, opened it, and there was Judy just standing outside with her back turned towards the front door. I rushed over, spun her around, and asked, how did you get out here? Apparently the second she saw the dogs looking up at the attic, she bolted outside the door. Wow. Okay, so this is Chris who saw Judy and then Judy was gone, and then she was like, Judy, where'd you go? And then Judy was outside. Yeah, but she never saw her like run out right right out there. She was just gone, yeah, wow, strange. And we had all the dogs for staring up at the same what was up there? And the dad said there was a body up there, so that's probably what they were staring at. I don't like that, No, no, not at all. Okay, should we get into the legends that you have for us from the state of Guanajuato. We shall. We've already done some Guanauato legends separately and other episodes we just kind of had like a fully dedicated Guanauato episode. So if you're like, why didn't they talk about this legend and it's like one of the most famous ones. We've already done it. How can they do talking about Momias? It's like, yeah, because we have a whole episode called Yes, Yeah, and it was fun. It was and sad. Actually don't remember. I should probably listen to it, yeah, because it's just like those people are up there and they've been up there for so long, and it's like there's like a little baby mummy. And then there was that one that they had like chained up like a bruca but like I remember that, they're like making me stories up. I don't know, it's some strange Yeah. And then we also talked about the Puppets, the Haunted Puppets and Laos, which is like the other very famous Manatos storyments, which yeah, that was like I don't know, episode like five or something. Oh really because like it was early yeah, early, So that's why we're not talking about those today. Yeah. But our first legend is aka the Alleyway and the Kiss. Have you heard of this? I love an Alleyway. There's like a lot of gayehon this gay daa, but have you heard of this gayekon? No? It's very famous, actually, actually heard of it before this, I think I have. Yeah, it's because I'm like, am I thinking about this is the kiss? Yeah? I know, I know when I don't think, so, I hope not. I don't remember talking about it. I just like have seen the pictures of it and heard of it maybe, yeah, okay, okay, Well, I mean you're all Sharon, and you let me know if you think you covered it before. But I don't remember hearing someone. Someone will let us know if I don't, so yeah, okay. So I saw a couple of different versions of this legend, some with the couple being named Carmen and Louise and a gang because that's our dad's name and our brother's name and my name. Yeah, I don't like that at all. Oh yeah, And then other the other version, the couple was Anna and Carlos. So let's go with that version. Let's go with that one. Yeah. It was said that Anna's father was a controlling Spaniard man oh okay, turmined to marry her off to a wealthy man, to the point where he would do whatever was necessary to stop her from speaking to anyone he deemed too poor. One day, Anna was strolling along the streets of Juanauato when she met a handsome but humble miner by the name of Carlos Minor as a working in the mines. Yeah, not like age Carlos, but Carlos at mines in the in the mines, in the mines. Yeah, and it was love at first sight. To the dismay of Anna's father, Anna and Carlos met in secret, but he caught them after hearing rumors about their meetups, and he locked Anna in her bedroom, going to marry her off to an old, rich nobleman from Spain, but Carloso. He went to visit Anna at her house and noticed that her bedroom sat in a super narrow alleyway and within touching distance there was another home with the balcony facing her bedroom window. I do have a picture if you are wondering what that looks like. Okay, but basically, the window and the balcony face each other, teparate home face each other, and yeah, they're within like touching distance. I love that. Yeah. Resolved to see Anna through this balcony, Carlos went to the owner of the home and offered to purchase it. After some haggling in which the owner of the home kept raising the price. Carlos was able to purchase the home, but he spent all the money he had on it. Now, the couple, they were able to see each other every night until now the faithful night when Anna's father caught them while they were making out. Oh, they were kissing, I just expressed and making out. Yeah. Well, there was a window in the balcony. There was not two balconies. Oh okay, okay, So but like one was in the window, what the other was in the balcony and he saw them making out? Yeah? Was hewn? Was he outside when he saw them? He looked at me, He's like, what the fuck? No, he was in the room and he kills I feel like that would have been Yeah, shut up and let me finish the story. Go ahead, your face. Yeah. No, he he saw them kissing after he strictly forbaded and locked her in her room, and he was so angry that he acted out violently and he killed her. Some say Carlos trying to say by jumping from the balcony into her room, but instead he fell onto the floor, crashed onto the third step of the stairs, and broke his neck, dying. Oh my god. Yeah, it was so close he could have just like climbed over, unless unless her dad was like like trying to like, yeah, he's climbing on. Her dad is like on the other side, like no, it could be I don't know, because close enough for them to kiss. But he just stud just like step over. Yeah, but it felt well, and his dad was like like the leg was coming over and he's like nope, he just like, yeah, pushed his leg off, you know, so who knows. Yeah, but wow, what uh like Like that's sad, but what I like fucking looty tunes type death like yeah. Wow. Others say Carlos was overcome with grief after losing the love of his life, and he ended his own life at his job. The Valenciana Mine, Oh okay, either way, sad. Yeah. The Carmen and Louis version says that Carmen died in Louis's hands after her father killed her, and she said goodbye with the kiss. Okay, that's a little better. Yeah. It is now said that couples who visit the alley stand on the third step of the stairs, conveniently painted red easy to find, yeah and kiss enjoy a lifetime of luck and love. Okay, I'm about to go there. And another version says that couples should kiss each other on the third step to be granted fifteen years of good luck, and couples who don't kiss on the third step will have seven years of bad luck. Oh you have on the third step, you can't go there. Get on the third step and not kiss. If you get on the third step, you have to kiss. But also don't get on like the first step and kiss. No, it has to be the third one. And it is paying red for your convenience. Don't want to be curssed. Look for the red step. Yeah. Yeah, Wow. It's a very cute alley because when I quit, those known for their colorful, colorful houses. So the house when the house is orange and red and the other one's pink and red, Oh my god, that sounds awesome. Yeah. And the alley is located in the Seerro de Nayo Hill neighborhood. Okay, okay, And speaking of the Valentiana mine where Carlos where Carlos worked, m there's a legend from there, is it him? No, it's not him? Okay, e separate legend. Yeah. Yeah, it's known as Eligito de la Valentiana. It is said that the day before Independentia on the fifteenth. So the day before the independence to on the fifteenth, Yeah, because like I don't want to make it sound like I'm saying independence day was on the fifteenth. Oh, I was talked about like the day before the day of independence. Yeah, the day of independence is the sixteenth, and so this was on the fifteenth, yes, yes, okay, okay. So on the fifteenth of September, a painful screen could be heard from a minor in the tunnels of the Valentiana mine. Some say it's the ghost of a man who died in a collapse in the mine the night before the famous Grito that ignited the War of Independence. The Valentiina mine was discovered in seventeen sixty and like many other minds, it quickly became a sight of expectation and which indigenous and African slaves were forced to work under brutal conditions. And it's said that on that day, September fifteenth, eighteen ten, a group of miners were working on an unstable shaft when a young miner begged the overseer to let them off early because there was rumor spreading about unrest in Jato because of the war, the coming War of Independence. But his pleas were ignored and he died later that night, buried under the collapse of the shaft. Oh wow. And as I mentioned the beginning of this legend, ever since this young miner's death, it said that his scream can be heard on the eve of Independence Day. Oh wow. Okay, Next we have La Casa de Latia Aura. Latia Aura was a rich Spaniard woman who was said to be very generous with the people of and so this made her well known in the community and left to her being known as Latiaa. The people knew she practiced spiritism and that her house was inhabited by ghosts, But what they didn't know was Lathia's horrendous nature. It is said that she tortured people in the basement of her home and that the ghosts of her victims still haunt the house. And why was she doing all this torturing? I don't know. I tried looking around, and this sounds like the one about the Tia something in Mexico. The hard thing about looking for this legend was that you can do tours there. It's well it's a museum now and you can go there. And so I kept seeing like only websites about the museum and like how to book a ticket there and only that. Yeah, so that's one version, because they want you to go there to learn the story. Yeah, yeah, I think that's why. So that's one version of the story. But the home was built in eighteen oh five by out As relatives who lived in the area already, and then she arrived in eighteen forty from Spain. Oh well, that's why she was searchering people because she was from Spain. Could be? Could it be? And so this other version says that during the construction of the home, mini workers quit because they heard their names being whispered, that lights would unexpectedly be turned off. And later, once a home was completed, two women witnessed the spirit of a woman dressed in older style clothing, like we're talking eighteen hundred, So what was she dressed, Like, I don't know, seventeen hundreds whatever the Spanish it's a difference between seventeen hundreds and eighteen hundreds. Well, yeah, the fashion changed, yeah to something what I don't know, Yeah, but they knew. So she was dressed in an older style of clothing and a white hat and she was witnessed by two different women in the home. And according to another version of legend, the home is haunted because auDA's daughter, Christina, So the daughter of Christina was killed by her father. And it said that Christina's father became enraged when he learned of Christina's pregnancy and he he stoned her in the basement of the home. So unnecessary. Yeah, And it is said that Aura died shortly after. And after the deaths of Aura and Christina, the youngest daughter was killed by her husband because she was the sole heir to the home and he wanted to steal the home from her. After these horrific events, the home was abandoned for many years until it was rebuilt and turned to a museum. And today it is said that the whales of the victims killed in the home can be heard and shadows can be seen throughout the house and objects are moved around as well. Wow, so you can tour and along with these stories, they also have torture devices from the inquisition there. Yeah, I see, it's interesting. The different versions are so different, Like in one version, herself torture. Yeah, and then in others her daughter was killed and then she died shortly after of something. Yeah, and then the other daughter was killed. So what a difference there. Yeah, varies a lot. We'll never know which one is real. Yeah. Maybe she tortured people and died after her daughter was killed. I don't know. Yeah. Okay, So we'll take a little break here and then come back with the true crime case. Okay, and we're back the case that I'm sharing today. There's not a lot of information because it just happened, but because we're talking about Juan, it felt important to share even though there's so little about it. And also because like we're like at the December recording, in the middle of the World Cup, the Madres Buscaloras have been making headlines because they've been protesting amid the World Cup, and so this is this happened kind of in between all of this on January twenty third. Sorry, this is editing Christina from the future. I meant to say June twenty third, twenty twenty six, not January again, June twenty third, twenty twenty six. Okay, back to the episode. At around ten thirty pm, Patricia Negrete was leaving her job on her motorcycle. She worked as a cleaner in the Hospital Regional de Penamo and while heading home, as she crossed the go Yado Boulevard in La Colonia, Las Americas, two armed men who were also on a motorcycle approached her and then they fired multiple times and fled the scene. And that's almost what it's like knowing about what happened. That's it. Apparently there was like witnesses and security cameras which investigators have pulled hoping to find the identity of these men because they weren't even like masked apparently from what I read, And so they did that. And then other than that, that's all that is really known. And that Patricia was an ermanausgela, because a lot of the articles have referred to her as a madrevusgela. But she was not a mother looking for their child, her sister. She was looking for her sister, and she belonged to the search collective called Una prompt a promise to keep to fulfill something like that, one of those, yeah, And she joined this collective in twenty twenty one after her sister Laura and Helica went missing also in Penhamo, and she was recognized for her activism with the group. I watched a funeral procession where there's like, you know, the funeral car driving and the people walking behind the car, and in the video there's other buscaloos holding a banner, you know, with more missing people on the banner, and then the the video. I was like, why why did they write this? The video said and she never found her sister, And I was in shambles, and I was like, oh my god, well that's true, I know, but it was like, I don't know. Yeah, No, that's just so sad to read. And how many people have met the same thing that they never find what happened to her loved once before they themselves exactly die or are killed in many instances. Yeah, and we've talked about a few on our episodes. Yeah. Friends, family, and other members of the collective called for justice during the service, and they have stated their belief that this was a targeted killing. I don't doubt it. Ry it's not. It wouldn't. It's not new. This has happened to activists, including the searchers Los Bus Galores Balas about her death. The representative of another collective, the Saperecidos. Mare Olvera said, it is a deep wound for all the families who are looking for our loved ones. And mad is looking for her son, Salvramirez, who disappeared in twenty fifteen in the city of Guanajuato. Oh my god, so long ago. Yeah, yeah, and it's terrible. And oftentimes it's like you said, and we just said, these aren't targeted killings because whoever committed these acts. Usually the cartel in illusion with the government is responsible for these missing people, in this violence, and in order to stop the collectives from bringing attention to this, potentially bringing attention to the collusion, they're killed. Yeah. And on that note, Guanaquato itself, since twenty twenty six, Guanaquato itself has become increasingly dangerous, with Patricia being the fourth Buscala killed Tins one twenty twenty six. All this I saw two figures. One said January twenty twenty six, but the other said March twenty twenty six. But either way, they're like in the area. Yeah yeah, But like a couple of weeks ago there was a very violent like not war, but like five between cartels in Guanaquato. Where like like ten people were killed. I completely missed this in the news. Yeah yeah, So like all these like Patricia's death and then the ones I'm about to share are kind of like in the middle of all that also happening. But the states with the most like cartel presence and cartel fighting are obviously the most dangerous, and the one where the most people active is included are killed or disappeared. And that's what I think that has to that's playing a part here as well, because that just like all the violence just happened, and then also Patrisias what seemingly targeted killing, and then the ones I'm about to share that also happened like one after the other. So Patricia was June twenty third, twenty twenty six. Right on Monday June fifteenth, David Aramento Alvarado, a member of the Salamanca Unidos Buscandoidos so Sala Manca United Starchy for that disappeared, which is also another city in Juanato. He was kidnapped by four armed men traveling on two motorcycles and they held him for about twenty four hours in Latinaka, also in Talamanca, until they finally released him, according to witnesses, severely beaten and like scared and intimidated of course. And then a month before this, on May ninth, Patricia Acosta Rangquel and her daughter Katya Clay Juaregi, both members of the same collective as Dabid the Salamanca who need those Buscandos Parasitos, they were murdered while writing together on a motorcycle. Wow, and these are like scooters motorcycles that people just like used to travel on Mexico. Like being in you could see like a family five on one of these, someone holding a baby back there, Like this is just how people travel. But I it's just I don't know, like all of them were just either killed on a moorcycle or like taking off a moorcycle. You know, it's I don't know. Yeah, well what's a common way to travel? So yeah, yeah, but so they were murdered together on a moorcycle. They joined the collective because they were searching for Miguel Angel quadeghill A Costa, their son and brother, who was reported missing on February eighth, twenty twenty four, and after a year of their searching for him, they found his remains in a clandestine grave in La DNA in Salamanca. Oh. Wow. And even though they had found who they were looking for, they continue to be part of the collective's efforts to locate other missing people. Wow. And then in April, Cecilia Garcia who joined the collective searching for her brother Mikeerlanquil Garcia Ramblas since twenty twenty one, she was founded after disappearing for two weeks. Wow. Yeah. And so these were all these four were all in the state of Juanato since like March, and so yeah, it's just they they have asked, like the collectives have gotten together and like sent a like a petition where they all sign like requesting protection. And the president has addressed this Patisia's murder as well as the collective asking for protection and basically the I don't remember if Gravila Scheibaum herself said it, or if it was a representative like someone in her administration who said the State of Guanajuato themselves is responsible for protecting these people, because like it's their jurisdiction and they should have been providing protection if they had asked for it, and especially with the most recent murder. And then also that they should be also the ones investigating, but that they would like support when I when I quit those yeah, like send resources for the investigation at least. But person like I've seen since the World Cup has started and these killings that have happened, people have been one like blaming the newest president, which is what happens in every country, you know. But again, all these missing date back to like a very long time them because like someone said, yeah, but a lot of them do. A lot of them dated back to the war on drugs started by their own yeah. Yeah, And a lot of them are migratory, uh, people who go missing in the context of migration. Mm hmmm. And then a lot of people try to use all these murders and missing to justify the invasion of Mexico by the US, and that's like, come on. One of the reasons why some people have been disappeared, being killed and gone missing is because of a cartel violence, which has been caused by various things. But some of those things are the US funding US collusion like the DA and the CIA working with the cartels, poverty caused by decivilization, and so the solution is never going to be to bring in the United States, right, right, But even when looking at like when I was looking at the funeral video for Patricia, there was comments in there of people like oh please us, come save us, and like, first, those are hopefully all bots, but there are people who believe that, and they could very well be bots because the United States has also been caught meddling in the media in Mexico to this people from supporting Morena. Yeah, yeah, but all that, especially to add that first, like there's a lot of news that a lot of us being here in the US are missing. Yeah, but also that so many people who don't look for like a bunch of different sources in Spanish, they're more prone to falling for like US propaganda. But yeah, in short, the answer is never going to be bringing the US. And then also, these families all deserve justice. Yeah, and it for sure is something that needs addressing and needs like something needs to get better, like things can keep going like this. But yeah, I wanted to share what little is known about what happened to Patricia. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean yeah, thanks for sharing and shedding lights light on those injustices. We're gonna take a break here and then come back with our sk recommendations and we're back. Do you have any spooky recommendations? I do so. I recently read Molca by Monica Kim, and this is my second Well, she has two books only, I think, but this is my second book of hers that I read. She's the Ia the Best Part author. Yeah, and so Milca is about I should let the power of pronounce these names. Sorry, bear with me. These are Korean names. I think. I'm pretty sure it's sent in South Korea. But okay. So here's a description that he can't believe her luck when she finds herself in a whirlwind romance with handsome, charismatic June the air to a multi million dollar fortune, but then a shocking revelation threatens everything the couple that is in Korea. The couple has been caught on a spy cam amid Korea's growing moca epidemic. And I don't know if the el is silent. I've been saying it sometimes it's good to listen to books because you hear how things are pronounced. But I invited this, so bear with me. I'm so sorry. And then the video is all over the internet. When June flees the country to avoid the intense public scrutiny that he has left to grapple with. The ramifications on her own, and the demons from her childhood long dormant begin to surface the chaos, she catches the attention of John Young, a nerdy, intorted it tech at work. John Young harbor is a dark secret. He has been spying on the woman at work with his own hidden cameras. And I don't know they meant they or you know, but the hitting camera is called the mocha. That's like the mocha. That's what doesn't ask what is mocha? What is the mocha? Epidemical? Like a hitting camera spine on women? Oh wow, Oh my god, I'm sorry, so timely in the middle of like the fucking Kylie Jenner Ai metaglasses nye, but metaglasses release so wow. As Dahie's life begins to unravel, she annoyingly becomes the sole target of John Young's perverse obsession. When the facts surrounding the invasion of her privacy come to light that he is faced with the humilating truth her pain and her turn to rage. As she faces her past, her desire of for a vengeance is unsatiable, and she will not rest until the men who have wronged her have paid in blood. Okay, I support a woman's rights and wrongs, and it's not wrong to get a rerange. I think. Well, I think I was counting out on her rights exactly. Yes, yes, And I found it pretty fast paced. The story picks up kind of right away. The horror was pretty good. I wasn't scary for me because I think I guess it was more like gory. Oh yeah, maybe a little more gory, but there is like paranormal horror in it. Okay. I guess to not get spoilers away because it's it doesn't mention her dark secrets from the past, what those are and what began to surface. They didn't say what that is and that discription, so I don't want to spoil it. Oh and if you said it right now, you'll be spoiling it. Yeah, but that has the supernatural element to it. Okay. Yeah, but yeah, it was fast paced. I couldn't put it down. I finished it like in a weekend. But it is a pretty short book though. It's a two hundred and eighteen pages. Yeah, so it was a good read. All right. I'm looking forward to reading that. Did you read the eyes are the best part? Yeah? Or no? No, I'm still looking forward to reading that too. Okay, listen, I'm busy, I know, I know. It's back in school, so she doesn't have time to read. And I'm pausing school right now to watch all the World Cup games. Yeah. So when did we say, Oh, when we did the Paytreon epen Son like, it's a busy time than when they did this time. Yeah. Yeah, have you seen that TikTok or someone's like, I can't keep going at the party, I send it to you game. Yeah, okay, that's me. Yeah. I wasn't even out late last night in the streets of Seattle, but I was fucking tired. I was. It's a lot of effort to be out in the streets. Yeah yeah. I was like trying to dance and I was like, oh, my legs are too so I have to walk home right now. How I felt when I when I ran the first time I ran five miles. I had a party later that night and then they had a little death for a little DJ that are playing music like banda music, and I couldn't even step at the My hips hurt. I never felt hip paint in my lack. Hey that was me. That was me, say. I was like, I got we gotta go, we gotta go now. I can cannot stand anymore. I cannot walk, I can not down. My friend was like, have you danced it that before? And I was like, yeah, I just can't, like I can't do it fully, like like actually me, who I come it up? I'm actually going to break yes, So yeah, that was me. Anyway, They're like, do you be know how to dance exactly? Have you danced before? Okay? Might speak your recommendation, and I guess because we only record every other week, I keep forgetting what I have recommended that. But I finally watched. I am frank, you have not recommended this, okay. It is Mexico's first stop motion like animated, you know, like stop motion movie. And this is for like the I don't know writers, the creatives, the the like Mary Shelley, if she were alive, she would have loved this movie. It's it's like it feels a little long. I didn't mind now, but some people like, oh this is dragging? Why how long is it? I don't remember, but I've seen people saying that online like, oh that there's pacing issues with the movie. Regardless, I for sure feel like it's something that all of us your support, because I think a lot of stop motion movies feel like that. They're like slower paced. Yeah, yeah, this it takes its time. But I thought it was a beautiful story. The colors, like the what is the story about? Is like Frankenstein. Well no, this, I thought it was gonna be freaking time related. I thought because of the name. Right, Well, she calls herself Frankela. I forgot her name. I think it's like Francisca or something. Oh and I think that's where the Frankela comes from. That doesn't make sense anyway, Well it will. So this little girl, her mom dies and then she's like left to be her mom is like sick, and she eventually passes away from whatever she's stick from, like she's like seeing coffee and it said like and like I don't know the old times, like it's probably consumption, right, that's what I thought, consumption tuberculosis. Yes, you don't know the water name, right, And so then she's left to be raised by her that's kind of mean, damn it. Her maternal or paternal grandma. I'm just wondering. I don't know. Actually, it probably doesn't even say I'm just I don't remember. That's a good question. But she's mean, and she's also like the weird kid in like this little pueblo and she like writes scary stories and then she shows them to the kids. She reads it to them and like and make fun of her. Yeah, basically, they're like, what a freak one. And she's like sad and crying because it's mean, you know. Yeah, And then I don't remember if it's after the Aba has now passed away and she's like a little older now the frank oh my god, well who takes care of her after her grandma passes away? Well, she's an adult now, it's like later when this when her way that finally passes away. And she's like trying to be a writer and she knows someone who's like, oh, my dad's a publisher. And then she goes to see the publisher and he's like, oh, oh, I can't write anything. What are you doing here? A fucking loser? Not exactly words, but words, yeah, like on the line of that. Yeah. And so she's like, oh, why do I think I could do this, and she like goes but her stories, like what's in her stories is a parallel spooky universe. Oh my god, that actually sounds really good. Yeah, I need to watch this. You should watch it. I thought it was beautiful. In that spooky universe. There's like a Princhea bet and then his parents who are the King Queen, and it's like each monster is so uniquely drawn, Like I watched it with my children, and then Matteo, the oldest, he immediately just started drawing it into different monsters who so inspired beautiful. He's like, I'm going to draw all the monsters. Yeah, it's like his movie was for him. He loved it. We want it in Spanish too, and they didn't even complain because they're like anyone, I want you in Spanish and I'm like, shut the fuck up basically, but not those words exactly right, the spirit of those words. Yeah, but I don't talk to them like that, but the spirit of those words. Did They said through the whole thing? Yes, Matteo did. Sammy. Sammy is like a little I don't know adhd Yeah, yeah, to say the least, so he didn't sit through the whole thing. But Matteo did and I did too, and yeah, no, it was beautiful. I don't want to see more than that without spoiling anything, you know, but like each there's different type of monsters down there. She goes down there, but the principate invites her down there, and they're like, oh, we've seen each other before because they saw each other as kids. He like climbs out of the world and goes into hers, and then I love the world within a world and then the yes, yes, yes, And it's just like you can look at the care and the passion and the love that went into this movie. I think every image that you see is there. You could see that, and it was just so vibrant, but at the same time deals with like so many it was just so Mexican as well, you know, with like the vibrant colors, the passion, the yearning, but at the same time it's like people are dying him, you know. So yeah, my god, it was beautiful. I loved it. Sounds good, that's my recommendation, and it's like so late, so I'm like, I think people who might have already been looking forward to seeing it already saw it. But if you haven't like, for sure to check it out. No, I know it's on Netflix. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's because I heard about it and they're like, I forgot about it. Now you remind me about it, so I'm gonna watch it. Perfect. Yeah it was. It was beautiful. 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