Pulse Nightclub (Re-release)

Hi everyone. This is Christina and this is MJ and Carmen. So I am talking about the Post nightclub shooting. You know, just trigger warning for like mass murder, and yeah, I think that covers it. Okay, So to go a little bit into what happened that day and then we'll go to more details. But on Unjune twelve, twenty sixteen, a gunman opened fire at the Post nightclub in Orlando, Florida. Fortnite people were killed and fifty three were wounded, and over ninety percent of those who were killed and wounded, I mean were Latino, Latine LATINX and it's Pride month, and this horrific crime truly affected the Latina community of Florida, and I mean like all over the US really, and I feel like only the Latine organizations were the ones like really talking about how this was the Latina community that was mostly affected. Yeah, So to speak a little bit as someone that puts the B in LGBTQ and has been part of the community, there's a lot of racist white LGBTQ people, a. Lot of too many really, and then they use their identity to like justify like yeah, it's called pink washing. It's it's an issue like how are you going to be marginalized part of a marginalized community and continue to marginalize. Others, but because at the end of the day, they're still white. Yeah, that's true, and they're align with white supremacy. So it is it's a huge issue. It's a huge issue. Yeah, and these things are all tied, as we say many times here on a spooky tails And so that's why I wanted to talk about it today because it was a crime that affected the Latina community, the LGBTQ plus Latina community, and I've been wanting to cover it for a while, and now that we're doing true crime in every episode, I was like, this is the perfect time. It's Pride Month. So yeah, So to get into the club first. Pulse was founded in two thousand and four by Barbara Poma and Ron Legler. Barbara named the club Pulls after her brother John, who had died from AIDS in nineteen ninety one. She said, it's name for John's pulls to live on, which I am I crying right now when I was reading it. Before John became sick, he was the life of the party and he introduced Barbara to the underground night life where they grew up in for Lauderdale, and so they were out partying together. He was, you know, showing her the scene and she didn't know anything about it, but she felt so welcomed, even though she wasn't part of like she wasn't any type of uh archibot herself. Yes, thank you, but she just felt so welcome. You know, there is something about gay clubs like there's nothing else like it out there. I love. They really are inclusive and protective of femininity, in which I can appreciate because it's one of the few places where femininity is accepted and loved and celebrated. Yes, yeah, yeah, I love it. And you're least likely to be grow up there. Also, though it is a problem, I heard it as a problem that a lot of uh straight women bring their straight partners. Yeah, leave them at home. Nobody wants them there. Also, I don't I feel like if you're just with your straight friends, you shouldn't go there, but if you're with your gay friends, you can't go there. It's a good rule. Yeah, because you hear about bachelorette parties and they're not like they're just like straight and they go there, you know, And I'm like, I don't. I don't know if that's right. I feel I do understand though, like the safety, the wanting the safety thing. Because yeah, I get that too, but also be aware and don't be disrespectful. Like a lot of times what is called self aware, be self aware because a lot of people are not and. They go into places where there are guests and they don't behave like guests. Yeah, behave like a guest. Okay, that's the rule. And I don't know if you're going to get into it, but I know like for a lot of LGBTU people when they go to gay club and stuff, it's like it's more than just like going out, like if I were to go to the club and dance, you know what I mean, Like because it's one of the first places that probably is welcoming and celebrating and of accepting who they are. So it's like it's so much more like communal. And yes, it's funny you say that because Barbara even on the website of polls, she said it's more than a club was on there, and yeah it is, And that's what she felt like when she was partying with her with her brother, and so when he died in nineteen einety one after battling HIV, which turned into ads for years, that's when she opened Polls to create a place like where what he first introduced her to. She wanted to make that for everyone. And so it was a gay bar, a gay club, but it was so much more than that. It was a safe place for the LGBTU plus community, and it served also as a place for the community to learn about HIV, p breast cancer awareness, and immigrant rights. Wow, they did all of that too, and they partnered with a lot of educational and advocacy groups like Come Out with Pride and Equality Florida. So really more than just a club and likely lead that out in all senses. Yeah, and so the club again more than a club. It was very very popular. There was in a list of Orlando in like the top ten clubs and so. On June eleventh, twenty sixteen, it was the club's weekly Latin night and it was packed. Club goers were having a good time, dancing, drinking. Drag Queen Kenya michaels A Rue Paul drag race contestant had just finished performing and it was amazing. And then last call was announced around two am, and so now it was June twelve. There were about three hundred and twenty people in the club when last call was announced, and then out of nowhere, gunshots were fired near the entrance. Adam Gruhler, who was an off duty officer working that night as a security guard, he was armed, and so he pulled out his gun and he tried to shoot back at the gunman, and their gun battle was brief because the gunman had a semi automatic rifle and a semi automatic pistol, and so Adam Gruhler he had to retreat because he was like, my weapon, I can't like I'm not I don't have enough firepower to like try and get him. So he you know, retreated and hit somewhere, and he called for backup. And because he was an officer, I think, and he was the one that called for backup aside from like maybe phone calls that club goers room making. The police arrived very quickly two well four, so in four minutes, wow, wow, yeah, And I know, yeah. That is unheard of because their take for fucking ever. Yeah yeah, So it was an additional units, So I think a pair of officers together in the car, but still like that was very fast. So as he retreats, the gunman continues firing, hitting at least a dozen club goers, like within seconds. Panic obviously ensued. You know, people are running away and he's just killing them as they're trying to run away. So the additional officers arrived at two o four. When they got inside, Adam told them the gunman was on the patio, and then the officers joined him where they were trying to fight out the gunmen together in hopes of stopping him, and the gunman was firing back at the officers, but then he ran into one of the bathrooms, which then created a hostage situation because a ton of people ran into the bathroom to try and hide when they first heard gunshots. So at two nine, there was a warning that appeared on the club, the club's Facebook page that said everyone get out of polls and keep running. Oh my god, that's so so horrible. Yeah, some people were able to do so, and not everyone could, like people were trapped and and hell cologne. He had been at the club with his friends when they heard the gunshots and they ran, but he was shot three times when they were running away, and he fell and then he was trampled because there was so many people there, so he was stuck on the floor and he saw as the gunman was just shooting the people around him, but he played dead and he survived. Oh my god, it's just like it's so horrifying. Ray Rivenna, he was the DJ that night. He took cover behind his booth and then hit two other people with him, and the three were able to escape together. And there was a lot of people that had been wounded, but they were still alive playing dead on the dance floor, which worked through some people and some people didn't. Swat arrived around to eighteen am, so again that's pretty fast because everything started at two am. The gunman was still in the bathroom, and so someone else that was at the club, Patients Carter. She was there with her friends. She was on vacation with them. They had arrived two pulls at bed night and before everything happened. She described the night as magical and like she felt, I don't know, alive, welcome, loved for the first time, like out of any place she had been before. So they were, yeah, having like the night of their life before everything went down. When they heard gunshots they were confused because like it's dark, there's very loud of music. At first, they thought it was fireworks, but then they saw other people running, so they ran outside. And when her and her friends got outside, they you know, did a headcount to make sure everyone was there. But one friend was missing. Oh my god. I can't imagine the fear that they must know, and I don't know, maybe the guilt. They went back inside, oh my god, to find their friend. Oh my god. And when I read that, I cried because, like not to get a little head, but Patience was the only one who survives out of her friends. I'm gonna cry right now. I know it's horrible. I'm so the group. You know, they ran back and started to find their friend. But at this point they saw the gunmen, like you know, in their direction, and they ran into the bathroom to hide because they saw other people running down. How they became part of the host They became part of the hoste situation. My god. And when they were running into the bathroom, another guy was following them behind them. He pushed them inside, closed the door to try and stop the guy from going into the bathroom. Oh my god, but the gunman just killed him and went inside the bathroom. But like it was like, there's so many people that die trying to save other people. I mean, so much bravery here. I Mean it's so hard to hear, but I feel like that's what needs to be highlighted, like the people who were there, Yeah. Because that's like really unheard of, Like you you rarely see in American culture where it's like it's a very MEMI me culture, but you have these minority cultures and they're really like ten toes down for each other. Yeah, And that's the thing when there's like crisis situations like this, I don't think it matters where you are what's happening. There's always going to be people like the guy who pushed them into the bathroom and stood at the doorway. Always the gunman, you know, entered the bathroom anyway, and as soon as he entered he opened fire. At some point he stopped, you know, after leaving like a trail of people. And so when he stopped, the phones were going off like crazy because the people that were still alive in there were messaging their loved ones. He left the bathroom for a second, but then immediately went back in and this time, he pulled out his phone and called nine one one, and he told the operator like, you know, because they asked, like, what's your name, That's one of the first things they ask you when you call nine one one, And he didn't never say it. He just said in the name of God the Merciful in Arabic. Then he said Praise be to God, and then he said, you know, and the operator repeatedly is like, okay, what's your name, Like, what's your name? And he just never said it. And so then when she asked like the third time, he said that he was the one in Orlando and he did the shooting. And you know, the operator keeps trying to get his name and the gun and keeps talking about how he's acting in the behalf or acting on the behalf of the Islamic state. He hangs up suddenly, and then he calls the local news and then tells the local news that he did this on the behalf of Isis. But the thing is, he's naming all these different groups that don't like work together. Ever, he's like he's not actually a part of these groups. No, he's not, which is important to like say, this was a lone person acting doing this. He was really not a representative any of anyone, you know, So he tells them he did this on the behalf of ISIS, and another point, he says, he does this on the behalf of Hezbola, like all these Okaeda, like all these different groups. He also posts this on Facebook. He tells the news he's the fourth shooter and the there's bombs inside. He also texted his wife around four in the morning and she's like, where are you. She had no idea this was happening. And then he asks have you seen the news? And she said no. And the last thing he replied to her is I love you, and that was it. So, you know, like at this point, it's been hours since two am, and people are still stuck in the bathroom with him. They're having to hear him say these things, Oh my god. Hiding underneath like other bodies. You know, there's a phone that keeps going off inside the bathroom, and the gunman is getting angrier and angrier about the phone, and honestly, he keeps yelling for the phone to stop or whoever has the phone like to shut it off, but like the phone probably belonged to someone who was not alive anymore. Yeah, and couldn't shut it off. And so patients who was in one of the stalls through her phone and said it was hers, which wasn't. But this calmed him down. This probably saved everyone else that was in there. Wow. And just ah, my god, I can't get over like the bravery because she didn't know how he was going to react, Like what if that set him off and cause him to shoot her, you know, yeah, so brave. Yeah, and she's inside on the stalls, so she just throws it over the stall or under I'm not sure, but either one. So at some point police are able to pull off an ac that was attached to wind in one of the dressing rooms. Some people are able to escape through there. This was around four twenty am. Oh my god. Then you know everyone can hear police, you know, through like outside, yelling for people to move away from the walls. But some people couldn't because it would reveal that they're alive, putting them at risk for being killed. So they you know, set off these explosions to try and get inside, but the explosion is too small, they don't fit. And also the explosion caused a pipe to burst in the bathroom, which is now quickly filling with water. Oh my god, I hope not sower water like probably, but also like it's filling up quick also putting the people that are like on the floor and they're like underneath bodies. Yeah, and they don't want to move because they've been taking that they're dead, right, Yeah, Patients was underneath a dead person when this happened, and so now she's worried about drowning. So now the gunman probably trying to like get away from police or like thinking police are not going to shoot me if I'm like near more people. He kicks selling one of the bathroom stalls and goes inside, and this is where Patients is, oh oh, and then he starts firing at people one by one inside the stall, including the person that Patients was hiding under, but she was okay. The police finally were able to breach the building and they fired at the gunman. There was about one hundred and fifty gun shots fired and eight hit him, killing him. And this was around five fifty AM. From what I can tell, these gunshots only killed him, no other people. Because that's I mean, that's a lot of fun. Yeah, that's around so this was around five fifty am. Once he was hit, the SWAT team rushed into the bathroom and they asked people, the people in there if there was anyone else, because they thought that there was more gunmen and more people attacking, because he said he was the fourth one when he was talking to the news, but you know, they all yelled out like desperately, like no, he was the only and so then SWAT started carrying out the survivors and the gunman. He was identified on the news like nationally around ten to fifteen am of that day. And in the end, thirty nine people died at the club, and then another ten either in the hospital or on the way to the hospital. And up to this day, this was the deadliest mass shooting attack in the United States. It's just so sad. And it's also sad that you have to say to this day because or to that day, like up to that day because after this, the Las Vegas Strip shooting, which was even more people. So it's just this it's depressing. Yeah, and just to name the victims here, So I did find and thanks because I listened to like three or four episodes to like just see what else was out there that I missed on like the different news articles and sources that I had, and the Generation Why podcast had an episode where they had information on the victims, just like a little bit. It's something that family is and friends said, so that's where I got this information from, because I couldn't find any that any of that online. So Stanley Almodovar the third, he was twenty three, so young, Yeah, so young. Friends and family said about him he made people feel welcome and loved. A friend of his said that he made them feel like it was okay to be who they were because they had just come out and they were like new to everything, and with him they could be themselves. Amanda Alvare was twenty five. She was there with her friend Mercedes, who also passed away. She was the best tha two your little old nibblings, and had just gone shopping with them that weekend. She wanted to be a nurse. Oscar Arasena Montero was twenty six. He was there with his partner Simon. They had just returned from a trip together and they had just bought a home together. Rodolfo Ayala was thirty three. He was in at a blood donation center and he just wanted to help people and make a difference, and he felt like every day he made a difference helping people get blood. Alexandro Barrios Martinez was twenty one. He was a Cuban immigrant and his family misses him dearly. Martin Benitez Torres was thirty three. He was a student, a university student on vacation visiting family when this happened. Antonio Brown was thirty. He was an army captain in the reserves, and everyone about him said he was always smiling, always helping people. Darryl Berts the Second was twenty nine, and his friends and family said he always had a smile on his face. Jonathan Camui Vega was twenty four. He worked for Telemundo and he was a member of the National Association of Hispanic Journalists. Angel Candelario Padro was twenty eight. He was a zumba instructor and from Puerto Rico and his classes were probably like really good, I'm sure. Simon Cario Fernandez was thirty one. I couldn't find any more information on him. Quan Chaws Martinez was twenty five. He was the youngest of six children, and his siblings described him as the best brother ever. Luis Conde was thirty nine. He was there with his partner and they died together, and they were both described as extraordinary humans. Corey Cournell was twenty one. He wanted to be a firefighter, that was his dream, and he was there with his girlfriend who survived the attack. Tevin Crosby was twenty five and he friends said about him that he had the best laugh and he spread joy wherever he went. Frankie the Jesus Velasquez was fifty and he was a professional dancer and also worked out forever twenty one. Deanka Drayton, who went by Didi, was thirty two and she was a bartender up Pols and she was just turning her life around after like a bunch of hardships. She had just started hanging out with friends and family more often. She started going to church. People could see like she was just feeling better and like turning her life around. Merceles Flores was twenty six from Queens, New York, on vacation in Florida. She was studying literature at the community college. Peter Gonzalez Cruz was twenty two and he went by Ami. That was his nickname and he friends and family said that he made a difference everywhere he went. Juan Guerrero was twenty two and he was attending university. He had just come out and he was so scared to do it, but his family was so accepting of him. Paul t Henry was forty one. He is survived by his two kids and he loved to dance. Frank Ernandez, who went by Frankie, was there with his partner and they both passed away. Miguel Honrado was thirty and he left behind three kids. He was at the club with his brother and friend and he was the only one that didn't make it that night. Javier Yes was forty. He went by Heavy. He was in Puerto Rico, and he was described as always positive and outgoing and just the loveliest friend to have. Jason Josephatt was nineteen and he was just figuring out his life. I'm like so young. Yeah, he had just decided he wanted to get a degree in computer science and he was, you know, finding all sorts of new hobbies to get into, like photography. Eddie Justice was thirty and his mom Mina describes him as loving all people. He loved to make people laugh. She moved that they're losing her son, but she returns every anniversary of the shooting to connect with other families and share in their grief. Anthony Laourano di Isla was twenty five and he was said to be an amazing drag performer. He was the life of the party and he was attending college at the time. I couldn't find much about Christopher Lenin. I don't know how to say his last same, sorry, but he was thirty two. Brenda Marquez McCool was forty nine and she was the mother of eleven wow and a grandmother of six. And she was there with her twenty one year old son who survived. And she was a cancer survivor as well, and a fierce LGBT ali After, like you know, a few of her children had come out, she was always supporting and I mean just the fact she was there with her son, coming with her son, that's just I don't know. Jean Mendez Prees was thirty five born in Puerto Rico. Akira Money Murray was eighteen. She was one of patients's friends. She was, you know, on vacation as well. She loved basketball and she was described as a natural leader. Kimberly Morris was thirty seven. She was a bouncer at polls. She loved basketball and had just moved from Hawaii to Florida to try and you know, make money to help her family back home. Jean Nievez Rodriguez was twenty seven. He was from Puerto Rico, a general manager at a check cashing service, and friends describe him as a giant teddy bear. Louis Ocasio Kappel was twenty. He was an amazing dancer and always willing to help anyone in need. Heraldo or Tisi Menez was twenty five. He was in law school. He was a proud Dominican and an amazing dancer. Eric Ivan Ortiz Riveta was thirty six. He was the one in his family all of his family went to for advice, and he happily obliged. He was also super creative and was about to become an interior designer. Juel Draion Paniagua was thirty two and he was described as always humble, cheerful, and also loved to dance. Enrique Rios Junior was twenty five. He was a vacation from Brooklyn, where he attended university. He was described as super funny and a great person. And then Juan Rivera Alasquez was thirty seven. I can find information on him, unfortunately. Jill Marii Rodriguez Solivan was twenty four. She survived by her two sons and her husband. She was said to light out the room and had the best smile and a laugh that was like so infectious. When you heard her laughing, you also had to laugh with her, which those are like the best lass best laughs. Yeah. Christopher San Felice was twenty four. He was from Tampa, but the family had immigrated from Cuba. His older brother wrote that he was the most important person in his family, the light of the family, and the strongest person he ever knew. Javier Emmanuel Serrano Rosado was thirty five. He was a professional dancer and he performed for Disney Live. And he inspired others to come out of their shell and he was always happy. He survived by a young son. Hilberto Ramon Silva Menendez was twenty five. He worked at a grocery store and was working on a degree in healthcare management. He had also moved from Puerto Rico. Edward Sotomayo Junior was thirty four. He was a branch manager for Alan Chuck Travel and he was described as kind, loving and energetic. Shane Tomlinson was thirty three. He was a lead singer in a cover band. He had been singing at another club before heading two Poles that night. Leroy Valentine Fernandez was twenty five and he was a dancer, a fashionista. He A friend of his said that he loved to seeing Adele until he got tired of it and that life is quieter without him now. Louise Vielma was twenty two and friends describe him as the best person that they had like the pleasure of knowing. Louis Danielle Wilson Leon was thirty seven. He grew up in Puerto Rico. He was at Poles with his partner Jean Mendesperees. They were together for ten years. And then Gerald Wright he was thirty one. He went by Jerry. He was described as quiet and hard working, but always had a smile on his face, and he worked at Disney. And yeah, those are all the victims that passed away, just terrible, just people out for the night, just living their lives. And then I didn't write too much about him because I wanted to focus on what happened and the victims. But the gunman was identified to be twenty nine year old Omar Mattin, a US citizen born in Queens. Also important to say because a lot of people came out and were like, this is what immigrants shouldn't be in the country, you know. Which is crazy because a lot of the immigrants were the one that died. Yeah, yeah, exactly, but we're targeted, yes, and so yeah, a US born citizen did this. He was born in Queens, New York to Afghan parents. You know. Although he was saying all this like nonsense about al Qaeda, isis his bobla like his the fact that he was Muslim and of Afghan descent that has something to do with him doing this. It's the terrible person that he was. So the FBI had him on like a watch list as of twenty thirteen. Really, I don't remember if I heard of that or not. Yeah. So he worked at a security firm and he told coworkers that he had ties to al Qaeda and his bola. Minded these organizations are not working together. Yeah, a lot of the organizations also have beef with each other. Yes, also important to note, so it was a tenth month investigation that ended up with no charges. He was questioned in twenty fourteen again though, after an associate of his became a suicide bomber in Syria, so he I guess maybe knew one person. So he also later told someone else that he had been watching jihadi's videos by anwar all A Lackey, and that person told the authorities. So this was another investigation. But again nothing came of this investigation investigation, it was closed, and he had a Florida firearms license since twenty seven even at the time of the shooting, this license was active. I would think that if you're on a watch list or something like, you shouldn't have that. I don't know, yeah, you would think. And since he had been investigated twice already. How many KKKIM members are in the watch list and you know they're going to do that? Yeah? Like they not, no, I know, but like you know, like. They're not going to do that because they're like, yeah, we're not going to put white people. I mean, even if white people are on the watch list, we're not going to take away their gun rights. Yeah. Yeah, said the same thing when so he was. His name had also appeared on this list, the FBI's Terrrist screening database. This is the terrorist watch list. His name was removed after those both of those investigations. So he would have legally been allowed to have firearms. So he bought the guns that he used for this shooting on June fourth. And so, you know, in the days after the attack happened, there was people, I guess, all sorts of rumors coming out on people that said that he had been on gay dating websites and apps. Someone did an interview with Univision who went by an anonymous name, who said that he saw the guy I heard regard his name Buck him. He saw the guy at Pulse a few times before the shooting. I remember hearing things like that. But nothing was true, right, None could be proven. None of it could be proven. The FBI, you know, did a forensic examination of the guy's phone for a computer, online account records, and they couldn't find any of this, just like they couldn't find any evidence of him being part of isis like he kept claiming to any of it. And so I mean, just more on on the guy like he was he had you know, like most of these people. A troubling childhood, Like he was described during his sign in school that he like he couldn't sit still, he was always in touching people, not leaving people alone, and he had from a very young age these very sexist believes. He was very rude to his uh the girls in the class and the women teachers, and then when teachers brought it up to his parents, the father had the same views probably where he got it from. Yeah, and he was also disrespectful to the teachers. So you know, he was always acting out and like you know, maybe he yeah, he had some issues that could have been addressed and they weren't, and so his behavior escalated because I think like at age fourteen he was suspended from or expelled from school for his behavior. So he was a violent person, a violent like sexist person. And you know, like the his ethnicity, his race, him maybe possibly being like a closeted gay, Like none of that is the cause, like or the reason you know, for what he did. Like he was just like a terrible person who went out and did this. There was even a trial against his wife after this. If the man does something and the wife gets in trouble. Yeah, because they were looking for someone to blame honestly, So an actual trial like criminal or criminal trial against her. Were the charges I don't remember the actual name of the charge that was like, you know, fact that he was like. That she could have been abused. And then like they're already. More basically the mass shooters have extremely high rates of domestic violence exactly. Yeah, and look at the shit he was doing in school where he was treating the girls and the teachers. So the trial against his wife was like basically blaming her that she knew what was going to happen, but shed trial concluded No, yeah, it concluded she was not guilty of course, of course. Yeah, and she really didn't know. So yeah, and that's really all I wrote about him. And one more thing, you know, the FBI after the investigation, you know, they determined that he was like a lone wolf, like someone acting alone, not you know, targeting. It was also kind of like concluded that he wasn't even really targeting the club. He was just looking for the busiest nightclub. Wow. Yeah, so he because there was Google searches from his phone and he searched two or three other places in the area and the last yearch he did was post nightclub, so there's speculation he didn't even know it was a gay club. But there's also speculation that he did know it was a gay club and that he had like vendetta against gays. So like, none of it, nothing was proven, and at the end of the day, like you know, no one knows the motive. So nothing like adds up in this, I mean, none of his Like I guess you can't find evidence for like, as you said, for his mode. That's weird. I think for me, the only thing that adds up, which is extremely common in mass shooters but often ignored by media and also by the criminal just courts, is that a lot of these men are sexists and they hate women, and that is a lot of times a like a root issue for them. And you know, the the violence that they the extreme like math violence they want to perpetrate women, Yeah, and a lot of feminine Yeah. And that's what I was gonna say. And I think we know that a lot of homophobia is tied to not to diminish homophobia or minimize homophobia, as it's as not its own thing, but a lot of times it's tied to the hatred of women. Also, yeah, and that's like all I wrote about him because like I did not want the attention on him. Some other podcasts to go into more detail about him and like his life and whatever, but you know, I like not giving attention and sometimes not even name for these people because that's what they want to on top of wanting to enact extreme violence on women because they hate women. They want the attention and the variety, you know, otherwise. I mean, I don't know about him, but like some of them, right, manifest so they make videos like oh yeah, so yeah, oh and like when he would go applying to jobs, he would put in basically what would be a manifesto or seen as a manifesto, but basically just like horrible sexist views. So yeah. The nightclub sadly they're not reopened, though there are like like I think it was like a week after the shooting happened, there was a like a Latin another Latin night, that's what it was, Another Latin night, but like outside it was like in the street because it was a warm it was a summer, so it was kind of done like in memory of everyone that had passed away, and the there's still like an annual anniversary ceremony basically, and I don't know if it's up, yeah, but they're working on making it like a memorial site. So the club did close and that's being turned into a memorial site for the victims. But one thing that happened, because you know, the the victims were majority Latino Latine, the some people were calling out like why aren't there bilingual Why isn't there bilingual help for the families, Why isn't there like there needs to be more support in Spanish, and that is Yeah, that is important because you know, like we've been saying, the majority of these victims and survivors, a lot of them were Latino Latina. So so yeah, that was a that was a tough episode. Yeah, we've reached the end of my notes. As Book Tells is hosted by Christina and Carmen, produced and edited by Christina, researched by Christina Carmen, and with the help of Don shout out with Don. If you aren't enjoying the podcast considerably, going to say five star review, we would really appreciate it. If you don't want to them a five star review, just don't leave a review, but don't leave anything lower than that, please, I'm just kidding. You can reach out to the podcast at a spook Tells at gmail dot com. 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