the Haunted Painting in Hotel Galvez & The Case of Juan Delgado

Hi, This is Christina and a Carmen and this is another episode of Spooky Tells, the podcast for all things as spooky, true crime, haunted places, things like that. Today we have a haunted painting within other stories, and then I have a very depressing true crime story. Of course. So we're back, you know, we're back to normal, to our normal episodes where you back. Baby, We're back to our roots where you have a paranormal story and I have a depressing true crime story. Actually your roots were just paranormal efforts. Oh sorry, we're back to our second roots. Yes, yes, before that though, we do have a listening story. And if you want to send a story for us to read, you can email a Spooky tot at gmail dot com. You can send it on Discord, you can call the a Spooky hotline. There's a lot of ways to get it to us. And this was anonymous. They didn't say you can say who I am, so we're just gonna leave them anonymous. Oh okay, well yeah, err on the side of caution exactly. So this is from someone I went to prefos this by saying I lived in this particular house for a couple of years and it was definitely Embrukada. Several of my friends who visited had very similar experiences or encounters, and it did eventually meet people who lived in that home decades before I did and also share that they had strange experiences there. I personally have had paranormal things happened since I was little. My mommy's side of the family is definitely gifted with prophetic dreams, as am I, but we were raised Catholic, so a lot of it wasn't really talked about unless it was something fatal. Anyways, as an adult that have grown away from religion and more into spiritualism, and that sort of plays into my story, which I have here because it's a voice memo on Instagram. I was want to say, where is it? I keep trying to record this message and for some reason something happens that you. Either can't hear it or it cuts out. I don't know. Anyways, I'm going to. Try to case this short and sweet, but just so you have like a general idea of how like the layout of where this takes place kind of works. I was living at the time in a really small kind of cottage mother in law suitet situation, surrounded by plans. It was super cute. The house in front of me. Three of my best friends at the time we're living in and the way that the houses were set up was if we were. To open the little like wooding gate. Between our two houses, both of our yards would be connected and I could just walk straight into my friend's house and vice versa. So this particular experience took place about like five years ago. So this is like right at the beginning of COVID. At the time, I had personally really started getting more into my spiritualism and building a relationship with ancestors and creating my own altar and things of that sort. So this particular experience took place on Halloween night, which happened to be almost exactly a month after I had moved into this house. And so at. The time, my friend was dating the sky very casually, and she wanted myself and the rest of our friends I had lived on the property. She had pulled me aside in particular and was like, listen, I know you get these really vivid dreams. I want you to get a feel for him and tell me what do you think. And I said, okay, that's how you use your gifts. Yes, Oh, I love this living arrangement. I want to live there with my friends, right, but not yet, so I guess we'll see. Sure, I can definitely do that for you. So this particular night, we had a little bonfire going, we made dinner, we were doing art, we were just having like a casual, cute little night. Her little situationship whatever you want to call him, hadn't shown up yet, and so they're kind of having good time whatever. So this guy shows up and he was like. Walking kind of along the fence. We couldn't see him yet, and he was like screaming from my friend. Already red flags all over the place. This guy is over here being like, yo, I've been calling you the fucking. Door, like I've been waiting for a while. So offer, but I'm. Already like I don't really like this guy. I don't know what his deal was, But what is he doing talking to my friend like that? She goes, she lets him in. He comes through the backyard with us. He's acting mad, weird. He like tried flirting with one of my friends in front of her. He was like just being really disrespectful and the way that he was. Talking to her. Already, I didn't like him anyways. So at some point while we're all outside around like this bonfire, he is acting mad weird, talking to her real disrespectfully. She had told him something along the lines of like, I don't like the way that you're talking to my friends right now. While this is happening, I look over and I'm like watching them interact, and my friend walks away from him, and he looks at me and it's like he's not there, you know, like his eyes are kind of like blazed over, like he just. Doesn't look like he's all the way there. I should also mention when he showed up, he was off with Molly and he had been drinking already, so he was like with cluss fanils don't even So I'm looking over at him and I'm like, this guy's not there. Maybe it's the drugs. It's not the drugs. I start to notice like a figure kind of forming around him. It's like a dark, sharp black figure. And then I watched this figure climb onto his back and it's kind of like the best way that I could explain it is like it had it's like I guess what would be its feet, like on his shoulders and it was like crouched over him, and. I had bright red eyes, and it looked like. He was like sucking something out of the sky, which at that time my best guess was like it was his soul or something. I don't know, like it was sucking something out of him. And immediately I was like, oh, help, I need to go talk to my friend and tell her that she needs to say the fuck away from him. So I pull her aside. We go inside together for a little bit. We like go into the kitchen. She picks up a glass, doesn't hit anything, she doesn't drop the glass. It just as soon as she picks it up, it literally just like shatters in her hand. And I look at her and I was like, girl, first of all, that's a bad woman. Second of all, let me tell you what I just saw. And I described it to her and I didn't really know how to make it sound without sounding like I'm fucking. Crazy, but she believed me. And she's asking me like, well, can you do some kind of like protection spell on me, because like I still want to be with him, but. Like what, he's a demon. I don't want that thing to get attached to me. And I look at her and I was a girl. Thank you. First of all, I'm not b ha. I practice spiritualism, you know, I do things that a lot of people look at me and they're like, why do you say you're not a witch? You're a witch. I am not a witch. And I say that I'm not a witch because I believe that these are my ancestral practices, and I believe that the people who came and colonized my island used terms like bruh to demonize the practices that my ancestors had, and this is me reclaiming it. I then identify as. A brueh, but I respect everyone else within our community who does. That's just not the word that I use for myself. And so I'm telling her I don't do spells. That's not the kind of person that I am. I've done cleansings, but like that is some shit you do not want attached to you. You don't want that attached to you. She didn't listen to me, so they needless to say. This whole night had gone on kind of being a little bit of a shit show. She ended up dating this guy for I think like a year or something like that, not without any issues, you know, what I'm saying, like. Agata, they woke up. She's good now, thank goodness. But that man has some demons and I've seen them. That wasn't the only time I've seen anything attached to him. At first I thought it was the house, and then I realized that it was just him. But aside from that experience, you know, like, I've had experiences within my house that I know for a fact we're attached to the house and not the people. Right after I had that particular encounter, I took my ass right home and he immediately did a cleansing on myself. I did a cleansing on the house, and I said, I don't know what the fuck it was that I saw, but Odo, I don't want that shit anywhere near me my class. Yeah, that was probably one of the first experience, but the first experience I had in that house when I first moved in. Wow, that's kind of wild. The whole thing, Like that whole thing was truly I'm shuck that the friends still dated him, Like you had a warning, yeah, uh, literal, warning, literal, and you know, but sometimes they just don't listen until until they tell the ready. Yeah, until the ready who hasn't had a friend like that, you know, or has been that friend? Yeah, true, true, so wow, but just the that's how strong this thing that was attached must have been if she saw it. Oh yeah, straight up manifesting like that. Horrifying, truly truly. Also, whenever you can send us the rest of your stories, yeah, I love that and put as much detail as you want. Part of that reminds me of something, but I already left my head, so never mind, oh really left their head? You know what? It reminded me of what it might be a story. Our mother told us her husband cleans, no, not cleans some sorry, she cleans the apartment sometimes. He's like a maintenance person for apartment buildings, and when they were in Sherman Oaks, that's what he did there. That's what he does. But you know, they get to live in property and he just is like basically almost a twenty four to seven like maintenance person, but he does have hours. But he would go to this property and then other properties in the area. And one of the properties he went to, he was he went in and he felt like this heavy presence in the house. And then as he was leaving, he turned this like you know how sometimes walk some closet doors are like a mirror, Yeah, like mine. Okay, So he was walking across the room and he could see the mirror because it was like almost as long as the wall. And he turned and there was just this thing, like a black shadow attached to the back of him, his back, like just hanging on. Oh don't like that. Whow that remind me of well, simonlar I just remember when there's so many stories like that. Yeah, yeah, too many. It's horrifying for many. Whenever I hear something hanging on to someone's back like that, immediately I'm like, oh, I gotta throw up. Yep, I don't remember. I think he because he's like, he's so nice just when you talk to him. Yeah, friend, he's so nice and carrying, and he also loves to choose me mad. Oh yeah, but he I think he walked across and then then until the whole day, he like didn't tell the thing to leave. He worked his whole day with it on its back on his back. He was getting heavier. Then when he was about to leave him he's like, all right, I know that you wanted me to carry you, but like, I gotta go now and you cannot come with me, but I hope that you got to rest a little bit by me carrying you around today. Wow. The way I would never say that, The way I would be like, get the fuck off me. He threw him back, no talk his way. So yeah, that's what that reminded me of. But wow, seriously, thank you so much for your story. I loved it. Yeah, it was cool, very creepy. Okay, are you ready? Okay, so we're talking about a haunted painting. We love cursed painting stories, but they're very hard to find in Latin America. Actually, cursed object stories overall seem pretty rare. But that's what led us to today's paranormal topic, the haunted painting of Bernardo Galvez. It's not Latino or Latin American, but it's Hispanic because this is a Spanish man, and the Spanish owe us. They owe us their stories. We want your stories, someone to suspect them. Yeah, and that's so bad, I guess some of sorry speyards. I feel like Donald dug Yeah, so this was a Spanish man because if it's a haunted painting, obviously he's dead. Yeah. So the portrait of Bernardo Galvez can be found in the Hotel Galves in Galveston. The hotel in the town are both named after him. Wow, I didn't know that, I know, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Also shout out to our cousin Luisa. She sent me a video while back about Galveston, Texas, and I was like, oh, yeah, there's a hotel there, and that led me to this painting. So thank you. Just kidding, okay. Bernardo de Galvez was born in seventeen forty six and was a Spanish military leader or colonizer if you will, and we will, if we will. He helped the Americans during the American Revolution. He served as a colonial governor in Spanish Louisiana and in Cuba, and at one point became the viceroy, which is like the governor, right, yes, yeah, like the person in charge of New Spain that you know has contact with the king in Spain. He was a seasoned veteran, having parts anticipated in several colonial wars, such as wars in North Africa, the Americas, but also across Europe. He supported the US colonists and the French during the US Revolution and won a bunch of battles, but the most successful battle was one in West Florida, which got rid of all British presents in the Gulf. He became a hero to both Spain and the US. He died in seventeen eighty six at the age of forty of typheiss, so he looked to a rivaled age for back then. Yeah. In recent times, though, he's mostly forgotten, with the exception of Galvez Day, a local holiday in Pensacola, Florida, and of course the place is named after him in Galveston, Texas, and Galvez Louisiana, Louisiana and Louisiana. I feel like I said it, yeah, but then I made it. No, No, I think you said it. Normal. Fun fact. In twenty fourteen, n Galvez received an honor US citizenship, which makes him one of eight people to have been awarded this honor. So there is a path to citizenship. You just have to be dead. You have to die first, and you had to have been a military yeah. Wow, wow, Wow, that's how you do it, folks. Maybe you had to be Spaniards, so they're like spicy Europeans, you know. Yeah, yeah, not for us, No, not for us. Yeah. And another fun fact, even though the city and hotel were named after a bed Nardo he actually never set but in either place. Hotel Galvez known today as Grand Galvez. Why would they change the name from Hotenguavis to grant call this? I don't know. That's kind of weird. That sounds worse. Yeah, it hotel Hotel Galvez. It rolls off the tongue. Yes, I was gonna say rings off the tongue, and I'm like, rings out. That's wrong. No, that's wrong. That's why I stop myself from saying it. Yeah, and you did, you did, But yeah, Grand Galvez. I think it feels weird to me because I had to say Galves in Spanish and Grand. I guess I could just say Grand Galvez. But it sounds weird, right Grand Maybe if you're white, Grand Galvez sounds better. I can't get over all those videos of like people like they say byeho in English jallejo and yeah, and I'm like, wy yeho, Yeah, Hotel Galvez gone. Sorry, Grand Galvez. Grand Galvez is located on twenty twenty four Seawall Boulevard in Galveston, Texas, right across the street from a beach on the Gulf of Mexico. Oh the Gulf of Mexico. Yes, yes, the Gulf of Mexico. Construction for Hotel Galvez started around nineteen hundred, but it didn't finish until nineteen eleven. It costs almost one million to build. Because of where it's located, the hotel and the entire area has had to whether hurricane after hurricane. One of the first really bad ones took place in nineteen hundred. Between six thousand and twelve thousand died during the Hurricane of nineteen hundred. During this devastating storm, a group of nuns from Saint Mary Orphans Home tried to survive. Saint Mary's was home to ninety orphans and ten nuns. They tried to save the children by tying nine kids with string to try and help them swim, but unfortunately, with the tumultuous waves, it made things worse. Since the kids and nuns were all tied together, they were all thrown around the water together until they were all dragged down at once. Oh that's terrible, right, Yeah. Most of them were never found, except for Sister Catherine. She and the nine children tied to her washed ashore where the hotel now stands. The kids and the sister were buried where they were found along with other victims as the hurricane. Now, employees and guests claim to see the figure of none. She's seen pacing the south lawn of the hotel and looking out to the sea, especially when a major storm is approaching. Guests of the hotel have felt their blankets being pulled by little hands during the night. People have also heard giggling, running, and crying, and it's believed these are the kids who died. There's also child size handprint along the bottom of the glass spot door. Hotel workers find themselves cleaning them off throughout the day, but they appear again and again. That's annoying. And this goes without saying, but kids are not allowed in this by area. But before it was a spot, it was the location for the hotel's former ice cream parlor and candy store. There's also a little girl seen bouncing a red ball, but the ball makes no sound as she bounces it. Then she's seen it fading as she walks away. She's also heard whispering ice cream, ice cream. Okay, that's I kind of love that. Like, if I was dead and I had to hunt people, I would like bumpos ass mm yeah, yeah, so it makes sense that you would be talking about this stuff you like, like ice cream. So I think that does make sense. And people are unsure if she's part of the Orphanage kids or a new spirit altogether. Oh I wonder. Yeah. People have also reported seeing an older girl in a white dress, a violet sash and a violet ribbon in her hair. She's standing there when the elevator doors open, and people think she's riding up to her floor, so they get in to wherever they're going. But when they get to their own floor, the girls nowhere to be seen. Don't like that. I guess she just likes the elevator. The most haunted room in Hotel Galvez is a room five hundred and one, home of Adra, the ghost bride. Every hotel has to have one. Yeah, I wouldn't be a haunted hotel if there was no either bride or woman in white or woman in white. According to Let's during the nineteen fifties, Odra was in her hotel waiting for her fiance to return to her. He was a mariner, so always out in the open ocean. She waited and waited. She would walk from her room to one of the hotel's rooftop turets turrets, yeah, turrets where she would search for his ship. This time around. His ship was supposed to have arrived days ago, and there was no word on air writing. Eventually she heard the ship was erect and no one survived. But she didn't give up, at least not yet. Several more days passed, and by then she figured he really was lost at sea and would never return. She gave up and hung herself from the turret on the rooftop. I don't know how much time went by after her death, but her fiance did return and was heartbroken to learn his soon to be wife had died by her own hand on the rooftop where she was said to have hung herself. People see orbits of light floating during the night. Why did he take so long? She would have been alive. Why didn't she wait longer? You know what, you're right, You're right. She could have waited a few more days and then she wouldn't be a ghost story. Yeah, anyone that has spent time in room five oh one has said the lights and the sinks turned on by themselves. The key for room five o'h one sometimes stops working and when desk clerks scan it, the computer displays expired nineteen fifty five. The phone in the room goes off, but there's never anyone on the other end. Some people hear a woman crying in the hall leading to the room, Oh my Shaila. Others feel the pressure of someone sitting in the bed, but when they look, no one's there. I hate that. And the following is a story that involves the fifth floor, but not room five oh one. Back in December, I stayed at the Hotel Galvez off the Sea Wall. The hotel is lovely but is notorious for being haunted, something I didn't realize. Told me stay there. Always google if your hotel is haunted. Yeah, you should, just as a precaution. Yeah, if you google, you'll see the backstory, and I'd recommend doing so. Our room was situated near the elevators, which weren't which weren't a big deal because there weren't many people there because it was off season. Well, at four am, I was woking up by the sound of the elevator opening and closing. I didn't think much of it until I heard it again and again. I laid in the bed listening to the elevator open and shut, dinging and binging when closing. This went on for a good ten minutes of me just listening. I finally got the courage to get up and look out the people. I saw the elevator opening and closing by itself. No one was there. I then got the courage to leave my room and investigate. Nope, no, that's no for me, that's not for me. Dog. I walked out and saw no one there but the button being firmly held down on the outside. The elevator then closed and went up to the fifth floor and then came back. The whole process kept going for hours till Madenance arrived. They looked at everything and saw nothing wrong. They also said the elevator button was new, so I wouldn't have stuck. So the only thing that makes sense to me was some ghosts decided to ruin or getaway. I agree. Yeah, I don't think it was a broken elevator. And now onto the painting. I actually kind of forgot about the painting. Oh yeah, that was the whole play of this. The painting. Lovely painting, by the way. Yeah, it's actually a little horrifying, Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I searched and searched, but could not find it when the painting was made or by who, but the artist of the painting was possibly Maya. There were a lot of pictures of the portrait online and there's some writing on it. Maybe that talks more about the history of the painting. But I can't find a clear picture of it. So if you go read that and let us know it is unless we go ourselves. I don't know about that. I don't know if I'll find myself in Gabbles in Texas, right, if I'm ever there, I guess yeah, yeah. So the painting is located at the end of a hallway in the lobby of the hotel. People have noticed that the eyes in their portraits seem to follow them as they pass by. If you see the picture, though, it looks like they're following you, even if you're looking at the picture on the phone. I was like, it's creepy. Yeah, like, bitch, why are you looking at me? The book? Yeah, and the eyes almost lookly they're go owing. I don't know, yeah, like please way like m or Others feel uncomfortable when approaching their portrait, and some even feel a huge drop in temperature when standing right in front of it. Some have said the spirit of Bevez comes out of the painting and follows them around the hotel. I could see him doing that. Yeah, he would, he would. That's so bad. Pictures of the painting always come out blurry or with skull shaped orbs covering the part. Trait, Dude, when you said blurry when you were talking about the picture, there was like a weird robot voice and everything else that has been fine in the episode. So that's a little weird. I don't like that. The only pictures that ever come out clearly are from those who ask for permission to take a picture. Okay, And that was a hotel. Wow, that was fun. Wow. Wow. Only one part was Hispanic and that was the painting. But I'm still I loved it all. Actually, it was good. I liked it. Yeah, yeah, okay, uh, and we'll take a little break here and then come back with my very depressing troue grim story. Okay. And so yeah, we'll just get into my part here. I was tagged in a TikTok video about someone trying a case that happened in their hometown of Lahabra, California. That's how they pronounce it. Yeah, they have three parts on the case. I highly recommend checking out their TikTok. If you use TikTok, I will link it in the show notes because she is talking about it with the lens from someone where this took place, as well as you know, someone who knew the victim. She mentions in her video that her older brother was friends with him. And I wanted to cover it because this case shook Lahabra, California, and nobody outside of the town knows about it apparently, or even then, it's really only remembered by those who were alive when it happened or were old enough to remember it all taking place. And I do want to give a content warning because this does involve the horrific murder of a child as well as dismemberment and possible sexual abuse. Oh god, it's bad. I also wanted to say that my main source is the court transcript. You can find it if you just look for people of the State of California versus John Samuel Gobriel. It's all there and that's really how I piece all this together. But there are some other sources, but that was the main one. So Juan Delgado was a brother's son and friend. He was twelve years old and a sixth grader at Washington Middle School in Lahabra, California. Everyone that knew him described him as an energetic, kind, super funny kid. He was one of seven children, the fourth oldest, and his parents were Juan and Margharita Delao, a big family. He was described by his parents as restless, but obedient and hard working. He was always helping elders in the neighborhood carrying their groceries and from their car. He was always doing your work for a little bit of extra money, and he was just always out and about. Everyone on the block knew him. When he wasn't playing soccer or doing yard work, he was at a butcher shop that was on Harbor Boulevard, and all the employees there knew him. He would they would just let him hang out there and then he would carry shoppers' bags to their cars for tips. But he wasn't an official employee. They just let him do that because it was there all the time. The hustler, he really was the owner of that butcher shop. Imron Bolant said that Juan was such a good kid who wanted to grow up fast and work to help his mom because he really loved his mom. On March seventeenth, nineteen ninety eight, Juan and his friend Armando Luna received attention and they were supposed to report to the homework club from three thirty to four thirty on that day, but just before three thirty, Huan told his friend Armando that he wasn't going and he just left. But before he did that, he told Armando that he didn't want to go home because he was scared of his mom. He didn't want to get in trouble for detention and then for not showing up to attention, and it seemed to him not wanting to go home was a common thing for Juan. H In February, so the month before this happened, Juan had gone up to another friend, Juan Duarte, and asked if he could spend the night, but Juan Duarta's father was like, no, go home, and he said I can take you home, but Juan said no, and he said he was going to his aunt's house instead. So he was always asking friends this. But back to March seventeenth, after skipping to attention, Juan went to soccer practice and was walking home with his friend Cipriano, and he told Cipriano that he didn't want to go home because his mom was going to spink him. So Sipiano's mom did let Juan spend the night on that day, and the next morning she took them both to school March eighteenth, but after she dropped them off, Juan told Cipriano that he wasn't going to school and he left. He also didn't go to soccer practice that day. Sometime after school. Jusefina, a classmate of Juan, was at her family's restaurant in Pastor on the harbor of Boulevard, and she heard someone calling her name. She turned around and it was Juan. Juan was walking with a one armed man and they were in the alley behind El Pastor, and Juan looked normal and happy to her, and it seemed like he wanted to go inside to go chat with her, because again he's so friendly and he's just outgoing and he talks to everyone who's seas and so he wanted to go and talk to his friend Josefina. But the man that he was with Jester to Juan to stay with him, and so he didn't go inside the restaurant. The pair left. Later around four point thirty, Cipiano, the front from the night before, was leaving soccer practice and walking home and he ran into Juan at Lahabor Market and Juan asked to go to Cepiano's house again, wanted to spend the night, and they walked up together and he was hanging out his house. But that evening, when Cepiano's mom got home from work, she in there and I was like, what's he doing here again, which I can already hear likes, But Juan told Cepiano's mom that he didn't want to go home because his parents were in Los Angeles. Where is Lahambra. It is in southern California. Like with traffic, it can be up to an hour about thirty two miles away, Okay, I was close, So yeah, that's what he told Cepiano's mom that his parents weren't there, they were in LA But she was like, no, I'm taking you home. And so they got to Juan's house around nine thirty pm. She went to the front door. First, she spoke to Juan's older brother. She got back to her car and she told Juan go inside. They're waiting for you. And Juan did leave the car, but he might have not even gotten inside. It's unclear to me what happened. I am so interested to find out more. Yeah, so it seems it seems like he didn't go inside. But that was the last time that Cipriano saw his friend. Wow, And I don't Yeah, I really don't think that maybe his brother saw him. Brothers saw him away walk away, But I can't find like details on that part right there. But when Juan failed to return home Tuesday the seventeenth and then Wednesday the eighteenth, his mom wasn't too worried because apparently this again was a normal thing for him. But she says, like, oh, he was just so friendly. He was always our friend's houses. He would often just forget to go home. He's so independent. He and this independence worried her and she thought something would happened to him because of how friendly an independent he was. Yeah, so it wasn't alarming for him to not be home two days in a row. When he finally didn't come back on Thursday, March nineteenth, this is when she was worried because he'd never been gone that long. How many she calls us. No, this was now three that he hadn't been home, but only one from when he his friend last night. Okay, okay, gotcha. Yeah, and so she called the police and yeah, the police did actually respond and talk to neighbors, friends and family, and then you know, like Friday goes by without hearing any news. Then on the morning of Saturday, March twenty first, Lorenzo Estrada was guardianing his front yard on the corner of North Willow Street and Greenwood Avenue in Lahabra. His neighbor walked out to him and told him that he had just seen a big cylinder shaped piece of concrete on the Greenwood side of his property. Oh and this cylinder shaped concrete thing had not been there when Lorenzo got home around one fifteen in the morning. So he went to go look at it because he's like, what's this doing in my house? And when he walked up to it, he noticed that there was a red liquid uzine from this concrete thing tube cylinder. He called the police right away. They arrived, they all saw the blood looking from the concrete cylinder. Not long after, they received a call about a second cylinder found on Walnut street, not that far from this first cylinder at all, like do less than two blocks away on the same street as Lorenzo Estrada's house. They found. Investigators found wire wood, a target basket, a blue plastic jug, a sandal one sandal of a pair, and a shopping cart with wet cement. And right behind that shopping cart there was a trail of blood and went cement like it just like you could tell someone was pushing nothing along and it was just leaving a trail. That second cylinder was only a few blocks away from the first, and when police followed the path of wet cement and blood from that shopping cart, it led them straight to a shed behind a house on Greenwood Avenue. These cylinders were taken to the corner's office almost right away, where they broke them open, and in the cylinders they found remains, some in black plastic bags, others just inside the concrete cylinder. They still needed DNA confirmation, but with the family having reported Juan Delado missing, they were suspecting this was fun. Oh wow. His lower abdomen and pelvic area were still missing. They were not in the cylinders. A third, yeah, a third cylinder containing these body parts was found next year, but his genitalia was never found. What yeah, oh my god. And by now they they had DNA confirmation that it was Juan del And so at the same time as these cylinders are at the corner's office, investigators are following that path to the shed they found the shed. They needed to know who this shed, you know, belonged to before they could just break it open, like you know, they need an official like warrant to get in there, right, So they learned that thirty one year old John Gobriel lived in the shed. He rented it for one hundred dollars a month from a family and John Golbri was arrested after checking out of the Lahabra Motel on the morning of the twenty second. So the day after they found all this, and as he was arrested, investigators entered the shed. And you know, at the same time, the coroner was now conducting the official autopsy. So in the shed they found a saw, saw blade, scissors, a knife, a bloody cleaver, bowl, cutters, a trowel, a capping tool, tin snips, latex gloves, a black stock pot with cement inside, and then just the packaging for all these things, it looked like they had just been bought. What John Gobril's fingerprints were found on the stock pot, the capping tool, and the packaging for the cleaver. And for those that don't know, a capping tool is that tool that flat with the handle that's used to flatten cement. Have you seen it? I think so, yeah, I think you have. If you look up. Keptin told you'll recognize the picture right away. And that thing had his fingerplant fingerprints along with other tools. They also found wet cement on the floor, blood on the carpet that would later be identified as Juan Delgados. They also saw found blood on the dresser, a wall, a quilt, and a blanket. They also found black trash backs, receipts for purchases made at super Kmart, home depot, pornography, children's books which was very random, and children's toys, as well as a sandal matching the one found on the street by one of the cylinders that single pair. The other pair was inside the shed. And then there was also some shoes and clothing that were identified later as belonging to Juan. His brother identified the clothing and the shoes, and there was a detention slip with Huan's name on it, so there was like no denying he was in the shed wow at all. And obviously once they did, like you know, testing the blood, they found that it was Once the shed was also searched for evidence of sexual assault, but nothing was positive, like nothing was conclusive. The autopsy and again warning this part is probably the most graphic it's going to get. The autopsy showed trauma to the left eye that was consistent with asphyxiation, but a specific cause of death could not be identified. They did also learn that the dismemberment of Huan was done after he was already dead. And when they found the third cylinder a year later, it was tested for semen and they found a partial protein based on just sperm heads. Like usually, I guess when the FBI is identifying like that, they're looking for a head and a tail. They don't just look at the head because it could be anything, apparently, but when the police were looking at it, the person the coroner, not corner, but the forensic person who looked at it and said, yes, this is a semen because of the first half. But the FBI would later, well, I guess we'll go into that part in the trials and it doesn't matter this part. But so at first they reported that they found this half specimen of semen a single protein, but there was no tale visible and they were unfortunately unable to extract DNA from this small specimen that was found. They also found zero defensive wounds on Juan. There was no evidence that could show exactly how Juan was killed. The only thing they knew for certain is that he was dismembered after he was already dead. So and even his death certificate it says death by unspecified means, and they said that he was likely asphyxiated was the most likely cause. And his remains were cut into six separate parts, and they found this gray powdery material on all the remains, which is probably that cement mix. The larger of the three cylinders was two hundred and four pounds and the smaller one was eighty eight pounds, and I couldn't find how heavy the third cylinder was that was found one year later, but it was smaller than the other two. And John Goldbriel was officially charged on June twenty ninth, nineteen ninety eight. So this all happened in March and he was officially charged in June with the malice murder of Juan del Gado in violation with Pinocle Section one eight seven. They also charged him with the attempted commission of the performance of elude and Lassevius Act upon a child hundred fourteen. Then you know, as what happens with all these very vital cases. The defendants single team and the prosecution both had to build their case. So it took a while for this to go to court. But on September tenth, two dozen one, jury selection began. Wait what but it was postponed? Oh okay. On September tenth, two dozen one, jury selection began, but it was postponed. Oh okay, okay. Two thousand and one. This happened, okay, okay. See yeah, and so it was postponed because of September eleventh, two one. Wow, the defense must be why nobody remembers this right? So much happened? The defense fear that John Golbriel would not receive a fair trial due to the growing anti Arab sentiment after nine to eleven, because John was a John Goldbril was an Egyptian national. Wow, I'm sorry to say, I just assumed he was why I know, I know you did. Whoops, yeah, I know he was visibly like Middle Eastern and so oh wow. Yeah they were concerned about that. But finally jury selection began. Jury selection began October two thousand and one, which arguably, arguably is not that long after September eleventh, So I would I would imagine that anti Arab sentiment still happened, Yeah, only a month later. Yeah, it probably just grew after a month. Yeah. But before I go on with the trial and the sentencing and all that, I want to talk about who John go'brian was, how he ended up in Lahabor and his religis both Juan del Gado and I'm so sorry to do this because I hate doing this, but this is going to be in part two. Wow. Yeah, because we need to catch up on episodes. We need to build a bank here. Yeah. But yeah, that was the first half of the k Wow. Yeah, and I'm just shocked. That's something so horrific and like I didn't even know what happened. And that's that We're from California, just not this part of California. Yeah, but yeah, it's a really you know, a tragic case. But yeah, we'll finish that in part two before we go. Do you have any speaky recommendations? I do. It reminded me of it because of the hurricane that happened in the story about the hotel. Oh, it was a fantastic land. It was a book club pick from my work book club, which is falling apart, by the way, falling apart. Yeah, they kept putting around. I'm like, I was trying to tell everyone when we first started this, I'm like, okay, typically you have a month to read the book. But then, like the first book we finished hell fast because it was a free to make fat and thriller, you know those are like, yeah, you read those hell fast. And they're like, oh, well, let's just go off with the number of pages and what kind of book it is and then we'll set that something. They were like sitting our meat are to finish the book like two weeks, three weeks and random every book was different, and yeah, the last I think everyone only read the first like two books, and after that people started falling off. So but I have been reading them, and I've been reading books I wouldn't normally read. So that's interesting. That's cool. Yeah, So what was this one again. This one is called Fantastic Land. It is I would say it's like a thriller, So let me just read the synopsis. Real quick description. Okay, it says ideal for fans of Lord of the Flies and Battle Royale, a gripping thriller in which an amusement park becomes a scene have a real life nightmare, written as an investigation with first person interviews. So then it says, when online personas take the place of private identities, what happens when these societal constructs disappear. The employees of Fantastic Land find out after a hurricane hits the Florida coast, Fantastic Land has been the theme park where fun is guaranteed for nearly forty years. After the hurricane, detectives and others who make it to the survivors more than a month later discover a scene out of a nightmare. Evidence of grizzly murders are all over the park. Yet the only ones who could have committed these savage and horrible acts were the college age employees. What drove them to such violence? So it was interesting at first, it felt kind of slow, and I'm like, okay, get on with this, and I didn't like the writing style necessarily, like it felt a little bit try hard, Like oh, like there was this one, but a lot of the characters, not just one, but the one I remember off the top of my head. They're asking her about her boyfriend. She's describing him, and she's like, oh, he's he was such a hustler. That's what I liked about him. But the way she was describing the I'm like, no one in the right fucking mind would ever say this. No one talks. Yeah, no, I'm sorry, but no. And then there's like little things like that here and there, and then there's one part towards the end where they're interviewing the son of the CEO. He's like, this hot chica came up to me and I'm like, oh my gosh, shut up. If there's nothing I can so not on my block. Yeah type of Spanish Spanish. But he was just saying chica because I'm assuming it's a Latina. He would himself was not Latino. That's worse. That's worse. Yeah. Yeah, it's like that guy on TikTok that It's like when you're a white coworker wants to meet latinas and he's like, he does a parody. And I don't know if he actually has a Latino wife, because that would be even funnier. I'm not sure. It's the guy who also persons to be like a fat guy at parties. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that's just hilarious. It is. But yeah, the writing style it didn't mesh with me. Like I didn't like how the characters talked, because like it was an interview style, you know, and then there was this other character like they'll say because you when you're talking, you say like but then and this is so petty. I don't even think anyone cares about this. But where the word like was inserted, it didn't come off as natural. Oh do you know what I mean? Okay, I do, I do. Yeah, Like, you can't just stay like anywhere in the sentence. It has to make sense, you know what I mean? So I didn't like that. But it was still interesting and things really picked up towards the end and I couldn't put it down. I needed definish it. Okay, So it was still a good read. It was still entertaining. I didn't like the theory, the explanation that the reporter in the book came up with for the violence, the reason for the violence. It was very born to me, so I didn't like that. But I love an interview style book. I love that absolutely. And I learned the name of that and I forgot it already. I don't know, so yeah, that's my it's a style like it has a name, which of course it does everything does right, Yeah, but I didn't know this until recently, and I'm like, wait, I'm a fan, Wait I like this, yeah, so so yeah, I mean it was still I think people would still enjoy it. It was very gory, obviously m hm. And I ended up breading it. I think it was like three point seventy five because I was like, first, I'm like, I don't like this, Like I'm like, I felt like dragging. And then I hate it, you know, like I said, the writing, the way the characters talk, but because of how it caught me, like it gripped me the my attention. Towards the end, I'm like, oh, I had to wait it like higher like you know, so anyway, Yeah, it's fantastic Land by Mike back oven Oven okay O buck Obin, I'm not sure I pronounced it well, yeah, one of those is right, probably, Yeah, okay, I'll have the No, I don't know if i'll check it out. I mean, yeah, I could let you borrow away one day, take another if I remember, I'll think about it. I also, do you have another one? Yeah? I listened to Bunny by Mona Awad and it's wanted to ask you, but it was hella weird. I don't know if I have an easier time reading it then listening to it, because some parts I'd like I didn't realize I got to the end. But maybe it's because apparently it's a series. I didn't even know it's a series. I thought this was the only one. Yeah, I didn't know that. So the way it ended, I think it makes sense because there's a part two, so okay, okay, But a lot of things, I mean, the main character is a little crazy, not to say in like derogatory, like she is, you know, like truly no, but she is, and so a lot of like what she says, you don't know if it's reality or not. And it's sometimes liable narrator. But it also has like a vibe of dark academic Yeah, because she all let me read the description really quick. I think that's where it loses you now, Yes, yeah. Samantha Heather Mackie couldn't be more of an outsider in her small, highly selective MFA program at New England's Warren University. A scholarship student who prefers the company of her dark imagination to that of most people. She's utterly repelled by the rest of her fiction writing cohort, a click of unbearably twee rich girls who call each other Bunny and seem to move and speak as one. But everything changes when Samantha receives an invitation to the Bunny's fabled smut salon and finds herself inexplicably drawn to their front door, ditching her only friend Ava in the process. As Samantha plunges deeper and deeper into the bunny sinister yet saccharin world, beginning to take part in the ritualistic off campus workshop where they conjure their monstrous creations, the edges of reality begin to blur so I mean it doesn't begin to blur. Soon, her friendships with Ava and the Bunnies will be brought into a deadly collision. The spellbinding new novel from one of our most fear. That part doesn't matter, but yeah, that's what it's about. Okay, I might check that. Actually, that one is on my TBR. If I would have reminded myself what the synopsis was, I think I would have been more okay, yeah, like I would have remembered because I don't know, maybe in my mind would just wasn't in it. In this one, I couldn't pay attention that much and it was hard to follow, and it could have just been a meeting. And also you know what you need an ADHD diagnosis and application, and then you'll probably be maybe say that because I can read now, but I listened to this one. No, true, I can't read. Listening is actually harder because I'm not just gonna sit there and listen and do nothing. I have to multitasks. But then, like I don't pay attention in some parts. The thing that's risky for me when i'm multitas is what I'm multi tasking with. If I am reading something else, no, absolutely not. But if I'm walking or writing my bike, or if I'm in also writing something, it's tricky you know, then I sometimes I do that, So that's probably what happens Okay, yeah I can't. But. Yeah, it got it picked up towards the ending, and then I was like, what the fuck? Okay, I would still recommend it because also it was like cold tea witchy. I love that. Uh mean, girls click, I love that. And the audio book was actually good because I like the different voices she had for the different bunnies. The girls. Yeah, and one of them talked Caelifoni, like hello, bubbly. But the thing she would say, You're like, what the this is giving me scream queens vibe? Yeah, vibe kind of. I love scream Queens. But the thing I don't like is a dark academia. It's it's so serious. It takes yourself so seriously, and I can't stand something that's try hard. I can't stand it, you know what I mean, you really can. Last book you just mentioned that was your critique similar similar vibes. These ones really think that they're like so dark because they're in this MFA program and what they write in their minds. And now I'm just like, get over your fucking self, dude. Like, so that's one thing I think, But you know what, someone with similar vibes and maybe in an f MFA program. I really enjoyed it. Maybe I really like the aspect of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Another thing there was like these certain characters that I feel like they didn't delve into that much. But now that I know it's a series, maybe that's why that means. I think also that would help me. If I knew the series, then I would have been like, okay, like this probably will be more go more in depth in the second book, so right right, yeah, okay, that one I will keep on my to be horned then, and now that I know that I'm what I'm going into, I feel like, yeah, I will like it more or understand it more. At least I don't have spooky recommendations that are spooky other than I did place a hold on this book called Julie Chan Is Dead. Oh that's on my TVR. Okay, I haven't read it yet, so I don't know how it will be. But it says for fans of Bunny and Yellow Face, which I've read neither, you might like it. But it's a thriller and it apparently has like, you know, suspense. A young woman steps into her deceased Twins influencer life. Someone said Twins and I was there. I was there immediately, so yeah, that's on my list. Listen to this first sentence of the synopsis. Julie Chan has nothing her twisting, her twin sister has everything except the pulse. Wow. Right, And so immediately I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna check that out. So I place the hold and I'm thirty fourth in line. So it's twenty three week wait damn. I tagged it, but I didn't because I had a bunch of other books because I was listening to so I was like, oh, I'm not going to borrow yet, and I bet you now there's like a long as I did get Libro FM. Oh you need to yeah, because my library didn't have the audiobook version of Jesus and John Wayne, and I tried reading it. However, I just was not in it. I couldn't read. I love listening to nonfiction books because reading them is hard. Those are my favorites who listen to me too. Yeah, I just and you get twenty one days. And I just was so busy writing other things that I just couldn't read. But sometimes I can listen. And that's actually what I finished on my train ride back to Vancouver. From Seattle, but so I placed a hold. So that's why I got Libro FM so I could listen to that. And I also placed a hold on the Haunting of Room nine oh four. That's a fourteen week wait for me. I'm seventh in line. Wow. But the Haunting of Room nine oh four is let's see, Olivia Becente was never supposed to have the gift. But basically, this girl unexpectedly dies, and then this other girl can't stop seeing and hearing things from after this girl died. And she's an in demand paranormal investigator. She's scared her job, but you know, that other girl still haunts her. And it takes place at the Brown Palace, a landmark Denver hotel, and every few years a girl is found dead in room nine oh four. No one can explain it. It doesn't matter what room she checked into the night before, it's always room nine to four. Wow. And that's what she's investigating. I love a mystery like that occurs, sort of, it feels like, you know where, It's like every year this happens and we can't explain it. That kind of stuff. I'm again, I'm there for it. I'm seated. I will read it. That's why I loved this cursed house. This girl's house was like twist out their twists, how their twists? Like, I'm like, what the book? What it really was? And remember I kept texting like, oh my god, now this happens. I loved every minute of it. So those are my holds. I don't know how they're gonna be yet because I haven't read them. Because again, I've read Jesus and John Wayne, and I highly recommend Jesus and John Wayne. It's not a spooky recommendation though, because it's not spooky, although you will be horrified while reading it, so maybe it is a little bit, yes, you will. I've been in a Carmen passed down her obsession with like fundamentalists. I did, so I did listen or started listening to fuck I forgot the name again. In my Mother's House, In the House of my Mother, The House of my Mother. Yeah, The House of my Mother by Sherry Frankie about Ruby Frankie. That's what I started listening to. So that's what I'm actually reading. And again I've been listening to Only in Bed with the Right, which talks about a lot of this kind of stuff, such a good podcast. It's so good. And then I also started listening to A Bit Fruity, another great podcast, yeah, because he was a guest on in Bed with the Right. And then I also had been meaning to listen to Weird Little Guys already, and so I started checking out Weird Little Guys. I started on the South African episode. Okay, me too. I'm like on the third or fourth one already of this. But you know, if you want to be informed out like fascist stuff throughout history, highly recommend all three of those podcasts, Fascists in History or now. All three of those are good. So yeah, that's all I have been doing. And once I get those holds, I will actually have speed recommendations because we'll see I actually going to read horrid things again. I've been busy with nonfiction. Yeah, so yeah, that brings us to the end of the episode. Wow, this was a long one. I need to get my children to bed and I need to eat. So then I thought, oh my god, I'm so sorry for keeping you hostage for two hours. It's fine. I was ordering door Dash because I'm like, there's no way I'm gonna want to cook after this. I'm sorry, but no no, no, no, no same. I didn't cook today either, don't I will never. I will never betray you like that. Okay, because I play don't read the doorbell, it's because it doesn't like you want to spend money on stuff. So yeah, right mine money, just saying I don't know, okay. So yeah, that brings us to the end of the episode. Welcome back with my horrible depressing two crimp case. Part two of that in the next episode, and who knows what we'll do for the part normal. We don't know yet. We don't know because we're recording very last minute, but I want to catch up. Yeah, okay, We're We're being on top of it. We are trying. We're trying. Yeah, we're trying. Over on Patreon, you can hear thirty minutes of yapping about my vacation in Seattle as part of this episode. But we also did just record a bonus episode where we're talking about paintings, hunted paintings. Yeah, redit storme yes, today's episode. That's why I searched for it. Yeah, and also at some point we're gonna record our Sinners discussion again with MJ or part two of that. If you miss MJ. Come over to Patreon. Come over to Patreon. You can subscribe for a week and then counsel it. If you just listen to that episode or whatever else you want to listen to and then cancel it. No, biggie. Also, I finally have sticker ideas for everyone else, and I will be sending those out. Did you think of more? No? I just have to that's fine, Oh all right? 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