Creepy sleepwalking, from ancient superstitions and demonic explanations to 20th-century neurology. I also read your haunting stories of midnight granola binges, ghostly giggles, and rat dreams. Plus, the case of Kenneth James Parks, who crossed the line between unconscious behavior and criminal intent (he killed someone).
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So imagine this right? You're going to bed, your
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nightly ritual is done, you're under the COVID high, you're
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warm, living the life, right? Then all of a sudden you start
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like feeling very cold and you hear a voice next to you going
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me home a me home. Mom, What?
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Next thing you know, you're kind of startled and you're outside
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now. You're like outside like in the
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backyard of your house. And you takes you a little bit
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to get used to it. And then slowly your arm starts
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guiding you back into the house. And then you realize you've
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slept walked again. I heard about stuff like this
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happening. I don't think I've done it.
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I I mean, I've definitely been freaked out over waking up
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thinking that something's there. But I asked a bunch of you,
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like, did you or someone that you know ever experience a
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sleepwalking episode? Turns out the answer is yes.
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And they get a little bit creepy, also a little bit funny.
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But there's also some cases that get just pretty dark.
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And that's what I have for you today Here on the show is ready.
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Let's go. My name is Edwin and this
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paranormal club. In this response when I asked if
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you or someone you know has experienced sleepwalking I got
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this response from this one comes from decal 41 O four on
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YouTube and it says my husband used to be.
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He hasn't done it in over 10 years.
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Once I followed him we fell asleep in the basement.
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He went upstairs to main level and undressed piece by piece.
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Went into the garage, came back, ate half a box of granola bars,
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then went upstairs to put himself to bed.
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Woke up with granola bar wrappers and chocolate
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everywhere. Our daughter has walked while
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asleep into our bedroom and we guide her back.
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This was around age 4 to 6. She's now 10 and hasn't done it,
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but sits up during sleep and speaks out loud.
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Now that's creepy because one of the cases that I have today, we
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talk about how this runs in the family, sleepwalking runs in the
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family. So it's, it's a little creepy
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waking up while you're asleep. I mean, I, I have a hard time
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understanding it. I'm going to share, I'm going to
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tell you my experience, right? So this is what happened to me
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when I was around and I was in high school and it was creepy
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because I had no idea that this was a type of being asleep,
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being awake while asleep, I guess.
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Is that what you want to call it?
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I think that's we're going to, we're going to go with that
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because I woke up straight up freaking out because when I
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opened my eyes, I saw this huge spider crawling down the
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ceiling. Like not even crawling.
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It's just on its web and it's going down towards me and I can
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see its face and its eyes and stuff.
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And it's, I'm saying huge. I'm saying the size of like a
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ceiling fan, like huge. I freak out, roll out of bed.
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I don't even know how. And I'm looking at it like face
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to face, like looking at this huge spider and it's kind of
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hissing at me. I run out of the room.
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I go to my dad and I'm like, and he's like, I remember this.
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He's like estafa ormeido. Like he's he's asleep.
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And I was like estafa ormeido. That's what Estado and I was
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like, what, like he's asleep, my dad saying he's asleep and my
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mom was like, he's not asleep, he's just scared and he's like,
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what happened? And I told him I'm like, this is
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I saw this thing a huge spider on my thing, but I don't know,
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like I I actually like I think he just kind of realized right
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there then I had been dreaming and then it took me a little bit
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to go back to bed. But and it wasn't even that
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late, you know, but that was actually one of the creepiest
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things that I've early creepy things that I've experienced at
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my house. But it was, it's still, it was,
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do you know, really creepy to think that now when I'm reading
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about how this is sleepwalking, this is what it might have been.
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Even though I didn't really walk, maybe I did because, I
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mean, I stood up and I took a couple of steps, looked at the
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spider. So I guess it counts.
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Let's just go with that. It counts from a website that I
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found that talks about sleepwalking.
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I believe the page is called Live Lives ofsleep.com.
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I found a lot of information in cases about sleepwalking that
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actually found pretty interesting.
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There's one that says talks about like what you should do
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when when sleepwalker, when you encounter A sleepwalker, they
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usually say don't wake them up. But I mean, who knows, it's just
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because they might get startled. But also, it's really creepy,
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you know, to imagine somebody walking while they're not
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conscious. But this is some of the info
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that I found, right? It says despite its uncanny
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nature, sleepwalking has generally seen has been seen as
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a strange but entirely natural illness.
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The Greek physician Galen, 129 to 200 CE, records an experience
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of sleepwalking in his work on muscular motion.
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He walked about all night and woke up when he tripped over a
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stone. He drew the conclusion from
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sleepwalking that the animal spirits within the body remain
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active during sleep. So that's kind of a more normal,
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I would say, explanation because another one that I found says
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sleepwalkers have been mistaken for ghosts or people afflicted
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by demons. This is an example of a of a
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book called the Hammer of Witches, Maleus Malefach
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Maleficarum Maleficarum. 15th century disquisition warned that
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dangerous cult of devil worshippers was active in Europe
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who flew at night to attend Black Sabbath rituals and
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possessed diabolical powers to cause harm to their neighbors.
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To say that all these were that the powers enable the witches to
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fly were the cause of sleepwalking.
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Sleepwalkers were led by demons to walk over high rooftops in
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the dead of night. The sleepwalker was called by
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his or her Christian name. The power of the demon would be
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broken and the sleepwalker would suddenly fall down, fall off the
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roof. So you probably get hurt or die.
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The famous English Dr. Toms Willis, who lived in the 1600s,
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believed that sleepwalking was an entirely natural disease, but
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a sleepwalker could be mistaken for a ghost.
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This is true, though. This is true because they say
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that there's a case in the 1600s where there was this house in
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England that was like supposedly super, super haunted and nobody
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could stay there. Like they couldn't spend the
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night there because it was this room that was just haunted.
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Turns out a guest actually stayed in the room and found out
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that the ghost that they were seeing was the family's daughter
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who walked in her sleep. So that was it.
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Here is another comment by the way, we're going to jump back
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and forth here. This is from Creatively Blessed
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90s when I asked about if if you know of anybody who's a
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sleepwalker and said actually no, I haven't ever been around
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anyone who's a sleepwalker but apparently I've laughed in my
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sleep. My sister tells me if that's not
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creepy I don't know what else is.
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Imagine it's night time. The other person in the same
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room as you is asleep and then you hear them giggling but
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they're not awake. When my sister told me that I
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when my sister told me that, I thought yeah, that's creepy AF
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to hear that at night in the dark.
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I don't do it all the time but I still think it's a funny yet
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creepy story to share. And yeah, it is.
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It's a little weird. It's a little funny because what
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do you, I often wonder, like, what are you dreaming of?
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That's you know, it has you giggling, has you laughing.
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But I think my sister used to do that like she used to actually
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she used to like kind of hum at night.
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She still, I think she still might do it.
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I don't know. But it's like AI don't know but
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that's creepy. Another another one of these
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comments says I guess it wouldn't be sleepwalking if he
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never stood up. But I think my story might fall
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under this category. This was back in the Myspace
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days. I was in the living room playing
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the games they had on there and my bro was asleep on the couch
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and then he fell off and stayed asleep on the floor.
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It's dark and the only light is coming from the computer screen.
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Out of the corner of my eye I see my bro quickly sit up so I
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look. His eyes are still closed but
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now he's frantically reaching at his legs like if something was
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trying to get him. So I start getting scared and
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pulling my legs and feet up into the chair.
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So now I'm squatting because I don't want whatever is touching
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his leg to touch mine. And then he starts smacking the
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ground. So now I'm standing in the chair
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waiting for something to jump at me, but I'm not saying anything.
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So I jumped down and asked, what the are you doing?
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And his eyes open. And he said I was having a
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dream. A rat was trying to get me.
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All right. Well, I mean, that counts as
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sleep. Well, I mean, sort of hell like
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mine. Yeah.
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We're counting it. We're counting it.
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So bizarre, isn't it? Weird like, I mean, you have to
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admit, yeah, sure, it might not be like a paranormal thing.
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I mean, on, on some sense in some cultures it might be right.
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But it's creepy to think that you're, you kind of imagine like
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a zombie. Like are you there?
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Like, hello, it's you walking, but it's not you.
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It's like sleep version of you. And then the the The thing is
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that they don't remember when you're sleepwalking.
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You don't remember. So you might be a sleepwalker
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and you don't know, Think about that.
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That's really creepy. That reminds me of of this.
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This thing was called The Wonders of the Little world.
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I found this while Googling around about sleepwalking cases.
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And I found this really, really, really old book.
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They use kind of older language. It might be from England,
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actually, but I want it. And it's I have to like zoom in
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because they're actual scans of a book, but they talk about
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really weird cases. They're a little strange about
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sleepwalking. They might not necessarily be
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eerie, you know, But here's here's one right.
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It says this chapter is chapter 23 from this book.
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And it says, a young man of choleric constitution, lying
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asleep upon his bed, rose up, thence on the sudden took a
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sword open the doors, and muttering much to himself, went
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into the street, where he quarreled alone.
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Oh, he started fighting alone, and fancying that he was in a
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fight with his enemies, he made divers passes, till at length he
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fell down and threw an unhappy slip of his sword.
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He gave himself a dangerous wound upon his breast.
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Hereupon, being awakened, and of frightened and dreading and
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dreading his night walking's might sometime or other create
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great dangers, he sent for me to be his physician, and it was
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accordingly cured. Sword fighting while you're
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asleep #2 John Polt knee born in little sheepy laser stir shirt
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was here in remarkable that in his sleep he did usually rise
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out of his bed, dress himself, open the doors, walk round the
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fields and return to his bed not awakened.
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Sometimes he would rise in his sleep, take a staff fork or any
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other weapon that was next to his, next to his hand, and there
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with lay about him, now striking, now defending himself
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as if he were encountered or charged with an adversary, not
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knowing being awake what he had went past.
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He afterwards went to sea with the famous but unfortunate Sir
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Hugh Willoughby Knight, and was together with all the fleet
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frozen to death in the Northeast Passage about Nova Zembla.
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Sorry, it's, it's old English and it's really tiny, tiny text.
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But the what? He died not by sleepwalking,
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right? But he still died #3 but I think
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this might be the last one just 'cause they're, they're so,
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they're so quirky of you, so weird.
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All right, here's another one. Johannes A Porinius, an
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excellent printer, night rowing on, was shut out of the city
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together with my father, Thomas Platterus, and that they might
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pass the night the better as being in a place where they
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wanted accommodations, they set upon the correction of a Greek
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copy, Porinus. Porinus read the text, and
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through falling asleep, yet ceased not to read, being
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afterwards await. He remember not anything he had
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read, although it was not less an entire page, but somebody
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slept read next one Horses writes of one who in his sleep
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would dream he was. He was to ride a journey where
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upon once he rose up, put on his clothes, boots and spurs, got up
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into the window where he sat straddling, smiting the walls
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with his spurs till he was awake.
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It sounds kind of weird, but anyway, there's a bunch of these
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cases in the in this book, which is it's just bizarre.
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It's an interesting I might actually read the whole thing
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because it's it was weird. It's just it's really hard to
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read because it's, you know, old English or whatever.
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But OK, so we're going to there's there's this other,
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other pretty bizarre case is where we start getting into kind
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of the deep, the real crimes that can happen when you're
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sleepwalking. We're going to start with some
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old cases and then we're going to go into some of the newer
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ones, like yeah, newer ish ones. And then we're we'll draw a
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couple conclusions here because it really is pretty weird, you
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know, when you think about it. Here we go.
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This one is about the murder of Maria Bickford, National Police
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Gazette 1846. So and somebody actually died
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there. In 1312, the Church Canon
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Cephiriosis the Case of Madness stated that if a madman, a
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child, or a sleeper mutilates or kills a man, he incurs no
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penalty for this. The first surviving documented
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case of sleep murder in England was a trial of Colonel Cheney
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Culpepper in 1686A habitual sleep Walker.
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Culpepper shot an officer of the guard and his horse in his
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sleep. He was pardoned by King James
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the Second. The sleepwalking defense was
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first used successfully in America at the trial of Albert
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Jackson Terrell in 1846. In a crime that shocked Boston
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society, Terrell brutally murdered his mistress, Maria
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Bickford, cutting her throat so violently that her head was
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almost severed from her body. His attorney managed to convince
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the jury to acquit Terrell on the grounds that he was an
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habitual sleepwalker and had no motive to murder Maria.
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And it says mistress, I don't know.
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But that leads into possibly one of these early, early, I guess
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it it might have been one of the first cases where sleepwalker,
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like sleepwalking, was used as a defense for a trial and worked
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in Canada. It's May 23rd, 1987, and Kenneth
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James Park is in his house. He's kind of, he's watching TV,
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kind of dozing off, slayed into the night and out of nowhere he
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just gets up, but it's on his shoes, grabs the keys, goes out
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the front door, doesn't even close it.
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He just leaves. He doesn't gets into his car,
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leaves the garage door open, but again, doesn't even close it.
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He just leaves. Drives 14 miles, like 23
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kilometers to his parent in You know, she has she's, you
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know, she has a brain bleed and then starts stabbing her
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continuously. And that's actually how she ends
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up dying through a stab through the heart.
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He then gets out of the room, stands kind of, you know, a
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couple doors down in the hallway.
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And the teenage daughters that were there, they hear him making
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animal sounds that grunts. They're scared.
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You know, thankfully, he doesn't go into the room, right.
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Everything goes quiet and then he starts grunting again.
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He then leaves, right. By this time it's like 4:00 AM.
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Sometime like that, he goes to a police station and he says that
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he, he thinks he did something wrong, like he, he doesn't know
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what happened, but he remembers seeing Barbara, which is the,
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you know, the mother-in-law, her face kind of sad.
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And he, he thinks he, he hurt her.
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His hands are bleeding like his hands are like, it's like a
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nightmare. He's walking up to the police
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station to turn himself in for something like that that he's
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confused about, right. According to that testimony,
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it's by the way, it's, it's worthy here to, to know that
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when he went to the police, the police made a, they, they
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noticed that he had cut like the tendons in his in his hands,
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like with the knife, which is incredibly painful, right?
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But he had had no awareness like it.
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Obviously, you stab somebody, you cut yourself and it hurts
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that much. Like you cut out like that part
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of your hand, like, sever through it, you'll stop.
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Right. So he could feel no pain.
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And he just kept going. And that note actually ended up
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saving him because when he was tried, he said that he had been
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sleepwalking and the jury found him innocent.
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They said, yeah, you were sleepwalking.
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So, you know, you're clear now I know I'm, I said oversimplified
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it there, but it kind of makes sense at least to me, because
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when you start seeing some of the facts here, when you know
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the, the everybody, all the cases were represented.
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He, his family had a history of sleepwalking.
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He actually different members of his family were known
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sleepwalkers. He used to sleep very deeply
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like he was, he was a heart sleep like he just you couldn't
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wake him up also. He had I guess he had like a
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rugby match and so he was you know, he he was super tired.
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He was exhausted. Also.
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He had been awake for like a long time.
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Like I think I heard he had been like away for the most part of a
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48 hour thing. He also had some issues like
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gambling issues. He was stressed out also.
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There was another interesting factoid here is that he had a
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picnic planned. He, he was going to meet up with
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maybe not a picnic, but like a, a BBQ or some of some sort.
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He was going to meet up with the in laws and they, you know, that
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was going to happen the next day.
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So when I watched this through like a scientific conference
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topic thing that they've mentioned his case, they said
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that he had it in his mind to go visit his in laws.
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So he did it right. He drove there except at the
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wrong time frame, like he thought he was driving there for
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for that reason, like to, to meet up with him that this might
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have been his reason. Either way, you know, it's
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pretty sad. Obviously he he got divorced
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after that. I mean, imagine, right.
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You killed your wife's parents or you try to kill your wife's
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parents, you kill the mom. Yeah, they got divorced.
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They also had like some, you know, it was just a whole a
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whole thing that that it turned into, but he was it was enough
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proof for them to think that yeah, he was sleepwalking.
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So leave him alone. I don't know.
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The whole thing was was weird to think about that you can get
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away with murder for if you if it happens while you're asleep.
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It also happened in another famous case and people have also
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tried to fake it. Right.
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I didn't know I was sleepwalking.
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But still, you know, for some cases it works, sometimes it
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doesn't. But for this case, apparently
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the evidence was strong enough that they're like, yeah, you,
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you had no motive. Plus also I'm going on this,
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this thing about not having a motive for killing the the in
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laws is that they loved them. You know, he liked them back.
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It was like a like a he liked them.
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He loved them back. Also, by the way, when, when
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they had meds, according to this, this guy who made a
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presentation about it, that when they meds, like the, the man met
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his wife, the the wife had been like a runaway, like a teenage
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runaway. And he was helping, he actually
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helped her reunite and go back home.
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So the parents were very grateful.
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You know, her parents were grateful for that because, oh,
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he brought the daughter back. And these to have like, you
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know, they used to call him like, for example, because he
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was huge, this big guy. So he's called him gentle giant.
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I think it was like 200. He was 280.
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He was he was tall to like 6 something and turns out, you
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know, he took the mother in law's life.
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So the whole thing, you know it, it happened a year after, after
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the events in the 1987 is when it happened.
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After that is when he was acquitted like a year after
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that's when they had the trial. And then after that is when he
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was acquitted in 1992 for for murder and attempted murder.
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So the whole thing was obviously a lot of debate, a lot of shock,
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like, how can you do something like that?
00:23:43
And how can this happen, right? Think about it, right.
00:23:46
He had to put on his shoes and everything.
00:23:49
Drive while you're asleep. Honestly, yeah.
00:23:53
I think a lot of people are not even there when they're driving
00:23:55
now. But had to do that.
00:23:59
Had to grab a tire iron, get inside the house.
00:24:02
Oh, How did he get into the house?
00:24:04
He had a spare key, so he was able to get in there with the
00:24:09
key. Plus it's Canada.
00:24:10
I kind of thought that people don't lock their doors there.
00:24:12
I don't know why I had that image in my head.
00:24:14
But he got in with the spare key because they trusted him.
00:24:19
And then he did that. Pretty sad overall.
00:24:24
So just be careful. I know that sometimes, you know,
00:24:26
we think, oh, sleepwalkers. Yeah, it's funny.
00:24:28
It's, it's weird. But I also read some comments
00:24:31
and some of those videos about sleepwalking that the spouse is
00:24:36
actually hit the other thinking that they were getting in a
00:24:40
fight in a dream. And then you wake up and you're
00:24:43
like, ah, you know, well, sorry, sorry.
00:24:45
Then you're probably because you were, you were asleep.
00:24:47
Obviously you can forgive somebody if you know they they
00:24:49
accidentally like elbow you or whatever, but they can get much,
00:24:54
much worse, as you, you've seen in this in this case.
00:24:57
So, so remember, if you know, if somebody who sleepwalks, I mean,
00:25:01
I don't want to make you paranoid here, right?
00:25:03
But some of these things are actually really funny, like
00:25:06
they're, they're weird. You I, I heard of a case where
00:25:08
where a guy ended up sitting in, I don't know, like in the front
00:25:15
porch or whatever. And then he, I forgot what he
00:25:18
did. He just kind of sat there for a
00:25:20
bit, like the camera caught him. He just sat there and then went
00:25:22
back and that was it. Also, who was it?
00:25:25
That was famous Youtubers who also recorded themselves
00:25:28
Tiktokers too. They know they, they recorded
00:25:29
themselves sleepwalking. They go back and thanks to the
00:25:33
cameras, able to catch what they do, which is weird stuff that
00:25:37
they do like putting a 2A hair brush in, in the toaster could
00:25:41
be dangerous, right? But apparently there's a way
00:25:43
that people who sleep with, with sleepwalkers can lock their
00:25:48
ovens and toasters and microwaves and unplug things and
00:25:51
stuff to make it a little bit safer.
00:25:52
Plus, parents of, of children that sleepwalk already know
00:25:55
this, right? They know how to block things so
00:25:57
they, you know, the stove doesn't turn on, take off the
00:25:59
knobs, safety rails on the staircase and everything.
00:26:03
So, and you get pretty serious and it's a very real thing.
00:26:06
And according to the, the website, it said to call it an
00:26:08
illness. I mean, I don't know what the
00:26:10
different, what it takes to call it that, but I guess it's
00:26:12
serious enough so that you can, you have to actually take care
00:26:16
of it. Oh, which reminds me about the
00:26:18
case that I mentioned with Kenneth.
00:26:21
He actually, he underwent treatment for, for that and
00:26:24
apparently it seemed to work. But could you trust them?
00:26:30
You know, PC did something like that.
00:26:32
Could it happen again? Who knows?
00:26:34
Who knows, who knows? The jury believes that it it he
00:26:37
was no threat and then let him go.
00:26:40
So let's see if we can get into some of the comments from last
00:26:43
week. We actually got a a we had a
00:26:45
lot, a lot for for our show here that we just launched their last
00:26:51
episode. Just a reminder here, the last
00:26:53
episode was Ghost Adventures. Aaron Goodwin's wife plotted his
00:26:58
murder with the famous inmate. Pretty shocking story is I would
00:27:03
say it's not really developing anymore unless they have more
00:27:05
statements and more things start coming out because she was
00:27:09
convicted already. They said, yeah, you tried you,
00:27:12
you, you exchange money because you were going to hire somebody
00:27:15
to kill your husband. So, you know, she got jail time.
00:27:19
So we got some comments on here. Let's see.
00:27:22
It says as someone who's watched this was come comes from pushing
00:27:28
as someone who has watched an excessive amount of ghosts ghost
00:27:31
shows, I've always enjoyed enjoyed Aaron and ghost
00:27:34
adventures. Was very sad to see that happen
00:27:36
to him. He's all like Ryan and watcher.
00:27:39
Another great show. Keep the spooky stuff coming.
00:27:42
Well, I will thanks a lot for the comment and yeah, I did.
00:27:46
I was thinking that is it Ryan or is it more Shane?
00:27:48
Would he be the Shane? I think Aaron is a more, I would
00:27:52
call him the more likable one, but the which one do you think
00:27:56
is a more likable between Shane and Ryan?
00:28:00
I was kind of divided there because I thought it was Ryan
00:28:02
because he's so he's like the one that gets freaked out in
00:28:06
that sense, but also like some more likable 1.
00:28:09
I think Shane, I don't know. Let me know what you think of
00:28:12
that Russian Chedid, Chedid says.
00:28:16
First of all, thanks for reading my comment about cutting off
00:28:18
family members. Yes, actually, for those of you
00:28:21
who missed it, I asked if it's OK if, for example, your family
00:28:24
has been hurting you through witchcraft or even hurting you
00:28:27
through just, you know, letting, like, making you feel bad.
00:28:31
Like, do they take every chance to, like, make you feel bad?
00:28:34
Is it OK if you just want to cut them out?
00:28:37
She said, yeah, it's a second. I salute your method of
00:28:40
storytelling. You make it fun to hear and
00:28:42
relatable to those with different beliefs.
00:28:44
And most important of all, it's all about the voice.
00:28:48
The voice. Welcome to Scary Story podcast.
00:28:51
It's a paranormal club. Yeah.
00:28:54
Thanks for that. Can't wait for your next
00:28:57
episode. Keep them coming.
00:28:58
Please keep it scary. See you soon.
00:29:00
I should see you soon, too. Yeah.
00:29:03
You know what? For the first time ever during a
00:29:05
call, I I got that. Hey, keep it scary.
00:29:07
See you soon. I was like, I got chills
00:29:09
thinking of that. I'm like, this is so cool.
00:29:12
Let me see. Big Tech says it's scary to
00:29:15
think how someone you love and want to spend the rest of your
00:29:17
life with could basically turn on you in that way.
00:29:21
It's almost like you never really know someone.
00:29:24
That's true. You know, one time my girlfriend
00:29:29
actually told me that it was so weird that if you I don't know
00:29:32
where she saw this, but like you're basically spending your
00:29:35
life with a stranger, like somebody who grew up in a
00:29:37
different family, different place, different influences and
00:29:40
you're like sleeping next to them.
00:29:45
Weird, right, to think about, I don't know, eventually kind of
00:29:48
turned family, but still, like you still spend a lot of time
00:29:52
away, right. But But yeah, thanks a lot.
00:29:54
Big text for the comments Mama bear says.
00:29:57
I honestly think she should have gotten more time.
00:30:00
Aaron has a genuine good soul and needs to be protected at all
00:30:02
costs. Love all the podcasts you do.
00:30:05
Thank you Mama bear. I agree.
00:30:08
I think she I mean three to what, 7 years?
00:30:11
Not enough not enough. You try to kill somebody plus
00:30:15
you have that by the way this this this.
00:30:17
The Aaron's wife kind of became obsessed with a a person she saw
00:30:22
on a true crime show. So she has that capacity to do
00:30:26
that. Isn't that scary?
00:30:27
I think it's pretty scary. Blanca Corona says, just love
00:30:31
this show. Keep it going.
00:30:33
I will. I'm still showing up.
00:30:34
Still showing up for you guys. Thanks a lot, Blanca.
00:30:37
Appreciate that. And then Thomas SIDS says, I
00:30:41
just love your podcast and how they make me think on how much
00:30:43
we know or don't know of the paranormal.
00:30:46
Keep up the good work in all caps and a lot of exclamation
00:30:50
points. Thanks a lot for that.
00:30:51
And yes, it, it's something to think about, you know, like I've
00:30:56
been thinking about it like, I don't know if you follow me on,
00:30:58
on Instagram, but I have a little like a scary fam channel.
00:31:02
And in that, in that Channel is like basically like a broadcast
00:31:05
channel, I think you call it. And I just, you know, put in
00:31:08
whatever. And I, I had this realization
00:31:10
where that I typed in the other day where the paranormal kind of
00:31:14
divide itself into a couple different branches.
00:31:17
But I think the main ones to me, the ones that I've seen, at
00:31:21
least in the entertainment kind of things are either proof and
00:31:24
ghost hunts or going into more of the storytelling, the
00:31:30
history. And I really think I like the
00:31:33
history part or the stories a lot more, even though it's fun
00:31:37
to see ghost hunting shows and stuff, but there's a lot, even
00:31:41
the scientific ones, they all come back like the scientific, I
00:31:45
guess if you want to put it in quotes, the the more proof of
00:31:49
the paranormal shows. They also make you think, is it
00:31:53
possible? Can something else be out there?
00:31:57
I like to think about it. I've always liked to think about
00:31:58
it ever since I was, you know, a kid and stuff.
00:32:01
But it's cool. It's interesting stuff and a lot
00:32:04
of interest. There's a lot of interest about
00:32:06
it. Recently we also got some
00:32:09
comments on YouTube, but not too many because YouTube is we, we
00:32:13
just started posting on it and, and really pushing it, but we
00:32:19
got some comments on that. We have Gabby on there, Gabby
00:32:22
said when I mentioned about the you know, from the last episode,
00:32:28
Gabby says like my mom always says, nunca la thingas miedo a
00:32:32
Los muertos no masa Los vivos. Never be afraid of the dead,
00:32:39
only the living. Something to think about now,
00:32:43
what about the people who are asleep?
00:32:49
Man, so weird. Do you sleepwalk or do you know
00:32:53
of somebody who does? Let me know if you have a funny
00:32:56
story about it, because I think we need some of those because
00:32:58
these murder stories, man, you know, I don't like murder
00:33:01
stories. Like they're just not.
00:33:02
They just really give me the the creeps.
00:33:05
I think. I think it's scarier, obviously,
00:33:07
like Gabby said, afraid of of the living.
00:33:11
But if you have any funny stories of sleepwalking or
00:33:13
interesting ones, maybe a little creepy, let me know.
00:33:15
So send them in, send them in so we can read them in the next the
00:33:18
next episode when we do the comments, the comments part.
00:33:22
But yeah, that's all I got for you today here on Paranormal
00:33:24
Club. Thank you so much for showing
00:33:26
up. Thank you so much for your
00:33:27
support. If you have any comments or
00:33:29
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00:33:33
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00:33:37
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00:33:40
the description of this this episode.
00:33:42
Thank you very much for watching or listening.
00:33:45
Keep it scary everyone, see you soon.