Aaron Goodwin from Ghost Adventures became the target of his wife Victoria Goodwin's plot to have him murdered after allegedly trying to hire a hitman. Surprisingly, this was done through a connection with convicted murderer Grant Amato from the documentary Ctrl+Alt+Desire.
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So earlier this year, in March of 2025, Aaron Goodwin from the
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show Ghost Adventures had this notification from the Las Vegas
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Metropolitan Police Department. Turns out his wife was being
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arrested and the reason was conspiring to hire a hitman to
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kill him. Now I know we don't normally
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talk about this type of content, at least in this podcast, but
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it's making such a huge splash in the paranormal space that we
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just have to talk about it. You ready?
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My name is Edwin and this is Paranormal Club.
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So for some background for for some of us who are not familiar
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with Ghost Adventures and what what this is, right?
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I remember this show from way back in the day.
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And I'm saying like, since I was in high school, this was one of
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like V shows to watch. And I remember it started with a
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documentary. It was only a documentary that
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was released. It was a hit.
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And then it became a show on the Travel Channel.
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Such a just an awesome, you know, history into how it
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started. But it was made-up of three crew
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members that I remember clearly, Right.
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We have Aaron Goodwin, we have Nick Groff and Zach begins,
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which turned out to be, you know, the leader of of the
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group. People either love or hate Zach,
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you know, because he is exaggerates a lot of the things
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that you know, happen. But again, he might just be
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super sensitive to the paranormal and to entities and
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stuff. And he might be sensitive to
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getting scratched all the time or getting his energy drained.
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But one of the most likable characters or crew member of the
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crew from the paranormal from Ghost Adventures turns out to be
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Aaron Goodwin. And the reason why I, I think
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the most I think the younger crowd can relate to this is if
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you think about like BuzzFeed unsolved and you think of Shane
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and Ryan, he would be like the Ryan kind of actually, hold on.
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They're both likeable. Maybe Shane, Dang it.
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No, that's a tough one. That's a bad example because he
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he was like, OK, so you have Zach Beggins, who's like this
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the series like the leader guy, right?
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He's like the the one that is saying you're going to go into
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this room now I'm going to go into this room and we're going
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to try this. And he's the one that does a
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narration. Like as we were entering the
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room, we spotted an anomaly in the camera, right?
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He's like that guy, the main guy.
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You have Nick Groff, who was this?
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He was kind of like the serious guy.
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He was like just serious that you could feel a little bit
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distant, like a little bit cold, but still an important part of
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the crew. And you had Aaron and it was
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like the one that was sent into like the scariest room.
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And he would just be like, dude, I do not want to do that.
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Dude. Oh, my God, I just heard this
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sound. And he would like genuinely,
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like authentically feel all these things.
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You could trust them. Like you might think, yeah,
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sure. Ghost Adventures make makes up
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their their content. It's not real.
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It's all made-up, it's all fake. But Aaron's reactions just made
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you think twice, like, hey, maybe this stuff is real because
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that's how I would react, right? In a situation like that, like
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Aaron just freaking out over something that you know, that
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that you see. So he was the most likeable of
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them and he was he was more down to earth.
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He was just more like, oh, you're in this super haunted
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location and he would just be like, all right, guys, like calm
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down. Things are getting, you know, by
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the way, eventually Nick and and Zach had a falling out and they
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kind of went against each other like they they, it's a whole
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drama thing that we can get into later.
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But he was the reason why I still stuck around watching.
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I actually haven't watched the recent seasons, but the reason
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why I still even keep up with the news is just to kind of you
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really only watch the clips from Aaron, right, because you kind
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of know what Zach is going to be up to.
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But Aaron's more like the the normal guy in this in this.
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So he's the most likeable character in in the whole the
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whole series, in the whole not even a series, right, The whole
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reality show that is ghost adventures.
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So the story here where, where it starts getting into the whole
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topic of, you know, what happened with with his wife is
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it came as a shock, obviously, because First off, it happened
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to Aaron, right? Not that it should happen to
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anyone else, but like happened to him.
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And then the life that was being painted like the life that we
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saw at least on Instagram between him and his wife was
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like a fairy tale, right? You spotted pictures of him
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proposing in front of a castle, Disneyland or Disney World.
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He got married at the Haunted Mansion, right?
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This awesome picture of a flowy dress in like this in the
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Haunted Mansion. So like it, it was like a fairy
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tale kind of thing. They wrote each other stuff
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online, right? As in those are poles that
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actually might still be up from Valentine's Day.
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It just says stay, I'm on like I love you.
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It says, you know that. And they're out playing mini
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golf, like all these things that you you see.
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And it's recent, right? Who would have thought that just
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a month after that all this stuff was going to go down and
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that his wife would come forth and, and admit that she was
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conspiring to hire someone to kill him.
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The whole thing is just, it seems surreal, you know, that
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this is happening, especially now when you view his account
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like his, his testimony, like his victim statement.
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It, it, it's just, it's heartbreaking just to, to see
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the whole thing. You know, turns out that on
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March 6th of 2025, the Correctional Facility in
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Florida, like one of the, one of them from one of the jails
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there, contacted the Clark County Police Department, like
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the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department.
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And they said, hey, you know what, we, we confiscated this
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phone from an inmate that was, you know, you're not supposed to
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have phones there. And during one of the checks,
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they found that they had been this inmate, Grant, same as
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Grant had been communicating with somebody named Victoria
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Candy, which turned out to be Victoria Goodwin from, you know,
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Aaron's wife. They're conspiring to have him
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killed, to have Aaron killed. The whole thing was bizarre
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because this inmate that she had been talking to was Grant Amato,
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the subject of this terrifying, I guess, documentary called
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Control Alt Desire, about a man who became obsessed with a Cam
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girl, stole money from his family.
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His family got angry, obviously, for the whole situation and
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eventually he murdered all of them.
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And he murdered the mother, the father and the brother.
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Now that's the story of the documentary and that's who she
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was messaging. So how did this all get started?
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Right? This is pretty insane if you if
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you think about it, because the whole background of Grand Amato
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and and everything that went went on.
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It was a story of digital delusion.
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I obsession with somebody online and then Victoria has that same
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thing right getting obsessed with Grant thinking that they're
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going to have a future together. So how did how did for I know
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that there's just a lot of stuff that just I just threw on you
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right. So we're going to take a step by
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step here and I'm just going to tell you the story so you
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understand kind of the general idea of who this Grant guy was
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and what does he have to do with all this.
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Here's what happened. He was born I think in 1989 and
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he was, he was a, a nurse in Florida and he got fired because
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he was mishandling medication. Basically he was taking meds
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when he was not. He was taking like
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antidepressants, I believe he wasn't supposed to like, so he
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was taking him to for himself. So he, he had issues and he got
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fired. He got to let go, right?
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So now he's unemployed. He doesn't know where he's going
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to go, like directionless kind of lost in life.
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So his parents say, you know what, like come stay with us,
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get back on your feet, get a job, you'll be fine.
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Just, you know, do that. So he's like, OK, I'll do that.
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And his choice is to become like, I believe it's a streamer
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of some sort and it isn't working.
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Like normally when you have that, like when you have
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aspirations to do that, sure, it's, it's cool, right, to go
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after something like that. It's a fun job or whatever for
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for people who do that, but when you have no savings, you don't
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know, you don't have a back up plan.
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You're kind of relying on your parents if they're going to take
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care of you. Just hoping that this works and
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this takes off. It's pretty rough.
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Like it's a tough situation to be in.
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So while he was exploring all of his online options, right, he
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starts discovering the world of Cam girls.
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And that's where he meets this one called Sylvie from Bulgaria.
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And he's like in love with her. Like he, he sees her videos and
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he's like, like he starts chatting with her, like video
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chat and how those websites work.
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It's like you pay tokens like per minute and you, you chat
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with him or I guess you don't just talk like you're they, they
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perform a show for you online. And it became obsessed.
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He's trying to impress her. He's trying to become like a
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real life relationship with her. So he's like, yeah, I'm rich.
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I have a lot of cards, have a lot of money.
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He sends her gifts. He sends her.
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How is he doing this, by the way?
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He has no money, right? He's maxing out his credit
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cards. Like this whole time.
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He's he's faking the whole thing.
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Eventually the family realizes like $200 in the savings
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account is gone. He took it to start spending
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money to keep talking with Sylvie, the Cam girl.
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He's he's straight up he's like I'm obsessed.
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He's like a very small like he he's he's delusional now, like
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he's thinking. And I feel like a lot of us can
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kind of think of a situation where, or we probably read it
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somewhere on Reddit that a guy becomes obsessed with a girl and
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starts sending her money. He gets scammed out of thousands
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of dollars because he thinks that she's really in love with
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him. And it turns out she just wanted
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the money. Like that kind of scam.
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Well, that's not exactly what happened here.
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But because obviously this is this is Sylvia's job, right?
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Her job is to be performed to have a camera on and ask for
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money. Like that's her thing.
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So she's all this whole, you know, this whole time she's
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stringing him along, probably saying like, Oh yeah, sure.
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Like, yeah, let's keep talking. This is awesome, thanking him.
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And he's thinking that he's in a relationship with her, that
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she's going to end up being with him while she's just doing her
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job, which is to take money online.
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The whole situation is it's bizarre to think about.
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But again, this is people's reality, right?
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Like this is what they believe is happening, that they're going
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to be together and that all this stuff is going to work out.
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Obviously to us, it seems kind of like kind of ridiculous to
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even think that. But they get involved, you know,
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they have they get manipulated, they get obsessed with this kind
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of thing. And that's what that's where he
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was at one point. You know, the family's is, is
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angry, but they're like, you know what?
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OK, look, let's do something here.
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And they convince him his brother Cody is going to pay for
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therapy. He's going to go to therapy,
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he's going to get help for his pornography addiction, for his
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Internet addiction, and everything's going to be fine.
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So Grant's like, all right, I'll do it.
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And he does it. He goes to therapy, or at least
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claims he went to therapy or it was claimed that he did.
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And eventually he gets found out again that he's going back
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online this time, like because he said, hey, you know what?
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No more you have to lose touch with Sylvie here.
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Like no more Sylvie, like no more Cam girls, like just focus
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here. So he's like, OK, but in secret
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he took his mom's phone and keeps chatting and spending
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money on Sylvie. He's losing it, right?
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Like he needs help, but his family's like losing money.
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Like what else are you going to do with this guy?
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He has no job, He's not doing anything.
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He's just spending money and he's obsessed with this girl
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that he hasn't even met. Long story short, the family
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gets angry. They're like, you know what?
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This is the last straw. You, you're stealing now you
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need to leave so they can't come out of the house.
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Grant is pissed, like he's angry and he leaves.
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Later that same day, he comes back and he shoots his mom, his
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dad, and his brother. It's brutal, like it's execution
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style, like in the head, this is terrible, just a terrible thing
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that he did. And he kind of makes it seem
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like he wants people to think that, oh, maybe Cody, like the
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brother just maybe killed his parents and then he killed
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himself. And and what he did next is he
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took cash, took a laptop, took probably cards like credit
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cards, took the car and drove to a hotel, got online and kept
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talking to Sylvie as if nothing had happened, spending money.
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Eventually, obviously, the, you know, the family starts missing
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work and stuff. So they get suspicious, he gets
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sent someone out, and then they find out that, yeah, like
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they've been murdered. It's just, you know, really
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rough news. So the police starts
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investigating what's happening, like what's going on.
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So they find out that, you know, they start linking things easily
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with phones, right? They ping, by the way, your
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phone pinged like, as in they let out a signal saying where
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you are, kind of they can triangulate the the area, like
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where you are, the cards, right. He's spending money from cars
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probably that aren't his and they're showing up on bank
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transactions. The police are able to piece
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that up like that, right? Be like, piece it together.
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Also, you know, they, they find out where he is, they tell him.
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And then when, when he finds, he finds out that his family's
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dead, he reacts like it's the first time that they know that,
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that he hears about it and he's upset and he's crying and he's
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like, Oh my God, I can't believe it and all that.
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But the police are like, they're not dumb, right?
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They find out that he had an obsession and that he had been
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stealing money and all these problems.
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So he had, he had a reason he had been kicked out.
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So like they kind of know they, they can kind of piece it
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together pretty quickly that he's responsible for the death.
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And they eventually do charge him.
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And by the way, the the execution style murders here
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happened in 2019 in January. So he goes to trial.
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He does have the whole thing. He gets sentenced to three life
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sentences for each person that he killed.
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And this documentary Control All Desire comes out.
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He's already in being watched here in 2024 by Victoria
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Goodwin, who's watching this documentary.
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And for some reason she decides to right to the inmate because
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she becomes obsessed with this, which this all worries me about
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true crime, right? Like people do become obsessed
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with it and there's a lot of glorification for murderers.
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I don't understand it. I don't really think I want to
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understand it necessarily. I mean, it might be helpful to
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figure it out, but like that's can't you be obsessed over
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something else? I don't know, like those, I
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don't know those, those collectibles or something, I
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don't know, some kind of thing, something else besides
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murderers. I don't know, I don't know.
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But she became obsessed and she started writing letters to try
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to get in touch with them, which, you know, something that
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you you can do. I I found out about this and now
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I got pretty scared now reading about this that people who
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people have a thing for writing to inmates.
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Not that there's anything wrong with it, probably bored in
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there, right, But still thinking about this stuff happening
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really made me think of because somebody told me for somebody
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for my past was like she, she was writing letters to inmates
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and I'm like, Oh, I could have died.
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I don't know. Just thinking about this was
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really it was weird. It was weird to think about, but
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eventually these messages turned into text messaging, like
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through Facebook or stuff, a messaging messaging system.
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And they eventually start connecting.
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Like Victoria Goodwin, Aaron's wife was connecting with this
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inmate and they start kind of falling in love or she starts
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falling in love with him. I, I don't know if it went both
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ways, but how this stuff was, was happening was, you know, in
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jail they, they hide phones like the, the correction officers,
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like the, the correctional officers, they go in there, they
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do checks and that's how they found that he had a phone.
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Grant had a phone. He was communicating with this
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Victoria Candy person who was referring to FH as her husband.
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And they were to piece it together easily, right?
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Just to look into their profile like this is Victoria Goodwin.
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So that's when the arrest happens.
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That's when they contact the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
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Department and they get in touch with this.
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They they saved the life basically here, right?
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Aaron's life from Victoria hiring a hitman.
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Now, when you think about this, she probably has like little
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defence here, right? She's saying, Oh yeah, like we
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talked about it, but it was like a fantasy thing, like, because
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this is what her response was that she was daydreaming and it
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was like a, like a, like a Daydream slash fantasy of the
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whole thing and that it wasn't that big of a deal that she
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wasn't thinking about doing it. However, there's this huge
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detail here that was, was missing money exchanged hands
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here. She had, she had moved $11
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to a person in the like an intermediary.
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How do you say that intermediary for hiring for, for hitman?
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Like somebody just changed the money here so that you don't
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directly pay the hitman because that's too straightforward.
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They get caught like you're, you're, you're kind of screwed.
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Like you're done. So you send it to someone in
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between, right? And she has sent $11 to this
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person, a couple of the messages that were on there, obviously,
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like it's already like you lose all your rights here, right?
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They're going through your messages.
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They're finding out everything you said, how you fell in love
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through text message and all that.
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She ends up saying one phrase that I mean, I'm going to
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paraphrase it here, but it says I'm a bad am IA bad person
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because I chose to end his existence and not get a divorce.
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Yeah, you're a bad person for that.
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Just get a divorce. Like what's up with killing a
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person? Just divorce and and start over.
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Go somewhere else. Like, I don't know.
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But that's what the the, you know, that's what got her in
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trouble. They found out that way.
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It was too. It was very straightforward.
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And again, all this is it's not a mystery.
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Like it's not a this is a very straightforward case.
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This is what was happening. This is what you did.
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There like you, you did that right, but she was denying it.
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She was saying no. Eventually she did accept a a
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plea deal for that and she admitted it.
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You know, she, she ended up apologizing for the whole thing,
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which I don't know, did you try to kill somebody and, and try to
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hire somebody to kill somebody and you're just going to, you
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know, I'm so sorry, but I never did it though.
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You know, it's, it's, it's crazy to think because First off,
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First off, this was deeply, deeply like troubling for Aaron
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because he now had to go with like an armed guard to, to live
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his life, like to go on shoots and stuff.
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Plus, Victoria was actually giving away his location, like
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his filming schedule, his hotel stays, details on the car.
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Plus, you know, some couples they have, you know, they're
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sharing their location at all times.
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So she would give the find my, you know, the location for my
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phones or whatever. She was giving this location
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away to a person or where he was going to be at.
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So like what hotel he's in? Like, how do you even deal with
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that, right? Like that's very disturbing.
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Like he could have gotten killed just the whole thing.
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Like they, they even they even showed a picture like she she
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sent a picture of him of, of, of Aaron in Barstow, like at a
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ghost town, like, oh, he's there just to what do you like to
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maybe to show what he's wearing or where he is exactly.
00:22:19
So obviously, like all the proof, all the evidence was
00:22:22
against her in the, in this case.
00:22:24
And that plus the messages and, and, and the whole thing, they
00:22:27
just, they know they, they just gave it away.
00:22:30
So on March 6th, 2025, she was arrested at her house in Las
00:22:36
Vegas. The phone records obviously tied
00:22:40
her immediately to who she was, which was Victoria Candy.
00:22:44
From the messages she admitted it, you know, that she was
00:22:48
talking to Grant. And again, she admitted that she
00:22:52
was talking to him. But she also said that, yeah, it
00:22:54
was just a fantasy. It was like a Daydream, like she
00:22:57
said she was. She was fantasizing of what it
00:23:00
would be like to be a criminal and to hire a hitman to end
00:23:04
someone's life. So she was, she was charged with
00:23:08
conspiracy to commit murder, conspiracy and actually
00:23:12
solicitation to commit murder. So her plea deal was made in
00:23:17
April 12th, 2025. Again, this is very recent.
00:23:21
She pled guilty to conspiracy to conspiracy of solicitation
00:23:24
charge. Sorry, the solicitation charge
00:23:26
supposedly was dropped. Now how do you defend against
00:23:29
that? Well, they were saying the
00:23:32
defense, her defense team said she was emotionally vulnerable.
00:23:36
Also, she was manipulated by Grant Amato.
00:23:40
So the jury, everyone agreed like OK, she gets sentenced, she
00:23:45
gets jail time. She was sentenced to 36 to 90
00:23:49
months, which is about 3 to 7 1/2 ish years in jail.
00:23:55
And then that's where Aaron's victim statement comes in, which
00:24:00
is just heartbreaking just to hear that, you know, he, he
00:24:03
breaks down, he starts saying he can't, you know, now he, he, he
00:24:07
pretty much lost his, his freedom.
00:24:09
Like he can't be relaxed anymore because now he has to have an
00:24:13
armed guard with him, right? How is he going to be, how's it
00:24:16
going to get close to anybody now?
00:24:17
How can he trust somebody? Well, I mean, it's rough.
00:24:21
It's a good thing that he's getting help, right?
00:24:22
He's he's getting help. When you follow him on
00:24:24
Instagram, you kind of tell like he's, he's pushing forward, like
00:24:27
he's, he's, he's moving on. You know, he's, he's getting
00:24:30
everything together, which is pretty good.
00:24:33
Now, was his sentence to lenient?
00:24:36
I think so. I mean, you're trying to get rid
00:24:38
of someone's life and you gave everything details of where he
00:24:42
is, money, your message is there.
00:24:45
Everything's against you. You were you were trying to kill
00:24:47
somebody. You were trying to get somebody
00:24:49
to kill somebody. But you know, the jury agreed.
00:24:53
They're like, you know, she has a prior history.
00:24:57
She was cooperating with us. The whole situation is just it's
00:25:02
upsetting. You know, it's upsetting because
00:25:04
I feel like she should have gotten more time, but who am I
00:25:07
to say anything, right? I'm, I'm not really, I don't
00:25:10
really know how this stuff works, but it just, it feels
00:25:12
like that for the potential ending of someone's life.
00:25:19
Man, that deserves a lot more. Sorry.
00:25:22
So obviously immediately after Aaron finds out about this, he
00:25:27
files for divorce. He's like basically it's a
00:25:30
procedure thing, right? You procedure plus like you
00:25:33
don't want to be married to somebody like that.
00:25:35
But also like you got to start separating everything.
00:25:37
Like immediately. You can't just be like, Oh yeah,
00:25:39
I'm still married. Like you got to start
00:25:41
proceeding. This is now.
00:25:42
So at first he was like, you know what, we just have like
00:25:47
it's just difference. It's something that they cannot
00:25:49
correct anymore, right? They're just, you can't fix this
00:25:52
anymore. Eventually he amended it.
00:25:54
He was like, all right, I need to $10 in damages for
00:25:58
emotional distress and the for all those, I mean, imagine that
00:26:02
$10 for for emotional distress.
00:26:06
Like I feel like he could have gotten a lot, a lot.
00:26:09
He could have added a lot more to that, you know, because it is
00:26:12
going to affect him for a while, at least I can imagine, you
00:26:15
know, he also for therapy, for armed security, his own safety,
00:26:22
right? It's just the, I don't know how
00:26:24
you put a price on that. But also in court, he, he was
00:26:29
mainly quiet, you know, from, from the reports, he was quiet.
00:26:33
He would respond very short sentences until he gave his
00:26:36
victim statement, which where he broke down, He faced her and
00:26:40
basically just, you know, said everything, you know, said what
00:26:44
he was thinking. So it was, it was a pretty
00:26:46
rough, pretty rough, rough time for Aaron.
00:26:49
So and and it's you hear about the situation sometimes too, you
00:26:53
know, another, another other times.
00:26:55
And it makes you wonder, like, is this a common thing?
00:26:58
Like, really? Are you that upset you want to
00:27:01
kill your husband? Jeez, Like just get divorced.
00:27:06
You guys Like, come on. Like, yeah, I think it's better
00:27:12
that way. I don't know.
00:27:12
Plus, I don't know what she was thinking.
00:27:15
Like, do you want to be with this guy?
00:27:16
Like he's in jail? Like he's going to be in jail
00:27:18
for life and you're trying to kill a public figure kind of
00:27:25
like a a celebrity in do you know somebody who was on reality
00:27:29
show and he has like what a bunch of seasons, like 10's and
00:27:33
10s of of seasons of Ghost Adventures and he's well liked.
00:27:38
I don't know. I don't know.
00:27:41
See, this is what that level of like obsession gets you, right?
00:27:45
It gets people killed. The whole situation is just,
00:27:51
it's very rough. So now you know when, when I
00:27:57
started, you know, obviously digging into the, the, the whole
00:27:59
research stuff, I found some of Aaron's posts on Instagram and
00:28:08
some of them he's, he's saying thanks to his community.
00:28:11
And you know how it's all the messages have been helping him
00:28:14
out and everything, which is really cool.
00:28:16
And actually his Last Post that I checked today, I'll see if
00:28:21
it's still his last pose, but as in the the most recent one, but
00:28:25
he posted a picture of his cat and he says just you and me
00:28:32
buddy. Well, you know what Aaron is not
00:28:38
just you and the cat anymore. Like it's you, the cat and all
00:28:42
of us here because we support you.
00:28:45
So I seriously hope everything gets better here.
00:28:50
We're going to close the chapter and and move forward.
00:28:53
And I was going to be rough, but hopefully that's the end of it.
00:28:57
And then you take care of yourself.
00:29:00
The message goes to to Aaron here.
00:29:03
I can't imagine going through something like that.
00:29:05
It's just incredibly, incredibly upsetting.
00:29:09
So what do you think about this case?
00:29:11
Like, let me know. Let me know your thoughts about
00:29:15
the sentencing, any updates that you might be getting from the
00:29:18
whole situation? Can you post it?
00:29:21
Obviously, she has been sent in. So this is technically a closed
00:29:26
case, but obviously for Aaron is still going to continue because
00:29:31
now he has to deal with with all this.
00:29:34
So now let's continue on with our our podcast regular kind of
00:29:39
programming thing that we have here.
00:29:42
We do have some comments that we got from the last episode, which
00:29:46
obviously is super grateful for. We're gonna go through some
00:29:50
comments and see where we were where we're at.
00:29:53
Let's see from our previous episode called the voice outside
00:29:58
where people submitted their own true scary accounts.
00:30:03
We have our comments here. I think every everything got
00:30:06
approved. I think the the only, by the
00:30:08
way, right now, if you're listening on Apple podcast, I'm
00:30:10
reading the comments on Spotify and let's see.
00:30:13
Oh, I mentioned Yoda in the last episode.
00:30:15
Yoda says please do a live. I'll comment more, but I've been
00:30:18
listening on Apple Podcasts and not sure how to leave comments
00:30:21
there. I'm so sorry.
00:30:22
You don't need to worry, Yoda. Yeah, I happen to mention
00:30:26
mention Yoda last time because I forgot what it was.
00:30:29
It was it like, oh, we used to see Yoda run a lot.
00:30:32
No, we don't. But but no, Yoda's still here.
00:30:35
And that's that's awesome. But yeah, like, like I mentioned
00:30:38
the the comments on Spotify, we can actually leave comments on
00:30:42
Apple Podcasts. I don't think you can.
00:30:43
I think you can only leave reviews which try leaving the
00:30:46
review please. We don't have that many and five
00:30:49
stars. 5 stars will help out a lot.
00:30:51
Maria says hi, thanks for sharing my story, made my day
00:30:55
lol. When you were talking about the
00:30:57
movies I was thinking how cool it would be if your stories were
00:30:59
made into a movie. You have some of the best scary
00:31:02
stories I've heard. It would be really cool.
00:31:04
Thanks a lot Maria. Like, you know what, it would be
00:31:08
super cool to have a movie made with with one of the stories.
00:31:13
That's right. And that'd be super cool.
00:31:16
I don't know how you make a movie though.
00:31:19
Let me know. By the way, I believe Maria's
00:31:21
talking about Scary Story podcast, which are the, you
00:31:24
know, the stories that I I write.
00:31:26
Let me know what's what story you think should make it into a
00:31:29
movie. Like if you have an idea we
00:31:31
could, we could probably start from there.
00:31:33
Everything's possible here. Everything's possible, you guys.
00:31:36
Ken Riguez says when I heard the announcement at the end of the
00:31:40
latest True Scary Stories episode of a new podcast you
00:31:42
were hosting and made my morning.
00:31:44
I enjoy all your podcast. Edwins.
00:31:45
You have a GIF of storytelling. Dan, you guys are super nice.
00:31:48
Thanks so much, Ken Riguez. Keep up the great work.
00:31:52
It's also awesome to be able to watch episodes of Paranormal
00:31:54
Club and put a face to the voice that I've been listening to for
00:31:58
over a year. That over a year.
00:32:00
That's a long time in like, Internet time.
00:32:03
That's a long time. And yeah, this is my face.
00:32:06
Thank you. Sorry.
00:32:08
I apologize. Just kidding.
00:32:11
Yeah. This is this is me.
00:32:12
This is me on video here. And then KS says very
00:32:17
interesting episode was amazing. I'm glad you're feeling better.
00:32:19
Yeah, I was sick in the last episode.
00:32:23
Yeah. You you could hear.
00:32:24
You could probably hear the difference now.
00:32:25
Like it was terrible, but but it went away.
00:32:29
Now I'm not as nasally anymore on the question that you asked.
00:32:33
I think it's completely reasonable to cut off family if
00:32:35
they have caused you abuse. You should be prioritizing
00:32:38
yourself and sometimes it's better to not have that negative
00:32:41
energy in your life. And also thank you for reading
00:32:44
my comments. I'm excited to share my
00:32:45
experiences with you soon. Yeah, I hope you do.
00:32:47
I hope you you share them. I already sent you a link KK20.
00:32:51
Hopefully we can get get you on and and talk some scary stories.
00:32:56
There is here where you mentioned the you know, you have
00:33:00
it's reasonable to cut off family.
00:33:01
It's because in the last episode I mentioned is it OK to cut off
00:33:05
family or they've they've harmed you.
00:33:07
Like as in we were talking about, I guess one of the
00:33:10
stories was about like witchcraft specifically, but
00:33:14
witchcraft comes from like envy and like all these things like
00:33:18
why would you want to hurt somebody?
00:33:20
Is it OK to just be like, yeah, I don't want to be a part of
00:33:23
your part of like your life anymore.
00:33:24
Like I want to go away like you're you're hurting me.
00:33:27
You know, it's, I believe so too.
00:33:30
Like, I think it's you have to watch out for yourself.
00:33:33
And yeah, sometimes your family can become your worst enemies,
00:33:37
as we heard here with Aaron's experiences, right?
00:33:40
Like Aaron and then his wife. Like, imagine that.
00:33:43
Sometimes it's not even a ghost or witchcraft.
00:33:46
Sometimes it's a real life person that sleeps next to you.
00:33:50
Scary. I don't want to make you guys
00:33:52
paranoid, but geez, Campy. Campy says I like the name.
00:33:59
Campy's Porn Shack says I had to look at the photo for 10
00:34:03
milliseconds. Oh, this is a photo I shared
00:34:05
with that actually that was shared with me on the last
00:34:08
episode about the boy underneath the the staircase.
00:34:11
Had to look at the photo for 10 milliseconds from various angles
00:34:14
and zooms before I could discern the boy's face.
00:34:16
I don't want to know what kind of liquid people put in hotel
00:34:18
room coffee makers. There was a comment that
00:34:21
Michelle made in our in our podcast that we used to have
00:34:24
about why we don't use coffee machines or the the coffee
00:34:27
makers regarding abusive family members.
00:34:31
OK to for survival and mental health to avoid or completely
00:34:34
cut ties with any family that causes you harm.
00:34:37
The abuser has an obligation to stop the abuse in a tone for the
00:34:40
harm they've done. The abused person is under no
00:34:43
obligation to make the first move or do any, do all or any of
00:34:47
that work. And this is where I commented.
00:34:49
Like, I agree with that. That's actually made a lot of
00:34:51
sense to me. I hadn't never thought of it
00:34:53
that way, but the victim's not obligated to make the first move
00:34:57
or to fix things. It's not your job.
00:34:59
You're the victim here. It does it make sense?
00:35:03
Blanca says. I agree the Haunted Hill House
00:35:05
is good. I love the show where we can
00:35:06
interact. Yeah, right.
00:35:08
It's it's cool. I like this, even though every
00:35:10
day we have to get through, like eventually, hopefully we don't
00:35:13
get like flooded with common. I mean, I kind of wish for that.
00:35:16
But like I I really like being able to respond to comments
00:35:19
because we have we have like enough like we have comments to
00:35:22
reply to and we can actually have take the time to do that.
00:35:24
That's really cool. Thanks for that.
00:35:26
Blanca Rochin shedded says it depends, Edwin depends on what
00:35:31
the family member did and whether forgiveness is for our
00:35:35
salvation and Peace of Mind or for other reasons.
00:35:40
That's very wise. That's very, very wise way to
00:35:43
put it to it's if it's for that, then it's, it's totally fine,
00:35:47
right. If it's going to help us and
00:35:49
help us find peace, then we should do that.
00:35:53
See that I'm, I'm getting more and more convinced with it with
00:35:55
this is totally fine. And a lot of us might be going
00:35:58
through something like that where it's like it might not be
00:36:01
necessarily a witchcraft thing that we're going through with
00:36:03
our family. But like, what if they're
00:36:05
hurting you in other ways? Like you don't can't, you
00:36:08
shouldn't feel obligated to, you know, to, to keep them a part of
00:36:12
you if, if you can help it. I don't know.
00:36:16
And Natalia says, thank you for this new podcast.
00:36:18
It is good. I am glad people are sharing the
00:36:19
stories. All should be shared.
00:36:21
I agree. You know what I actually think
00:36:23
that stories in general, if we don't share them and we take
00:36:28
them to the grave, just to put it as morbidly as I can, they
00:36:33
will die. The stories will die.
00:36:35
And the only reason why they carry on, they continue is
00:36:38
because we share them. Think of the stories that are
00:36:41
super, super old that we're still talking about this to this
00:36:43
day. It's because they were shared,
00:36:46
right? So we have to, we have to find a
00:36:47
way to show them. Genie Lewis says that when
00:36:50
you're back. Yeah.
00:36:51
Great episode. Love this community you've
00:36:52
built. I already dove into some wrecks
00:36:54
from the comments section. Solid stuff.
00:36:56
I believe this person, Genie let me see was talking about the the
00:37:03
movies, right? The movie recommendations and
00:37:06
shows and stuff. To answer your question, I did
00:37:09
like Midnight Mass. To be honest, I'd watch anything
00:37:11
Flanagan makes creates, and I'm totally in for a good slow burn,
00:37:16
especially when it's done right. When the unraveling part keeps
00:37:19
unraveling and the plot twists keep on twisting, they're
00:37:21
usually worth the wait. I love stories that just unravel
00:37:27
very slowly. I think those are my favorite
00:37:30
kinds of movies and stories. As you can tell, the stories
00:37:35
that I write are very I always try to slow them down And the
00:37:38
only reason why I speed them up or put an ending to them or make
00:37:42
them as dramatic as people and make them dramatic as those
00:37:46
people ask. They asked me for that.
00:37:50
As in they say I like your stories, but I wish they had an
00:37:53
ending or I like this, but it was not scary enough.
00:37:56
And I'm like, or, or they want a monster in it or they want a
00:37:59
creature from the woods in it or, and I'm like, yeah, we can
00:38:02
try that. And it is pretty.
00:38:04
It's it's eerie, but I always like like the idea of, well, you
00:38:08
don't know what's going to happen.
00:38:10
Like it's that bizarre what happened, that mystery that that
00:38:16
lingering kind of story. That's what I like.
00:38:17
But if you know other other styles like movies or or shows
00:38:23
that are kind of like that very slow burns, like what is that?
00:38:26
I'm the PrettyLittleThing that lives in the what is that that
00:38:31
show? I know some of you are
00:38:33
frustrated because you know what I'm talking about and I'm not
00:38:35
going to finish it because I just remembered.
00:38:38
Let me know what it is though still, if you if you if you know
00:38:43
and then let me see anything for Mooney says another great
00:38:47
episode. Can't wait till next Monday.
00:38:49
Also, thanks for reading my comments.
00:38:50
You're welcome. Thanks for leaving comments.
00:38:52
I appreciate comments. I like comments a lot, a lot.
00:38:55
So that is it for the comments on Spotify.
00:39:00
We might dive into some of the ones from YouTube next.
00:39:02
I don't think we get that many comments on YouTube, but
00:39:06
wherever you can reach me, whether that's e-mail DM, just
00:39:11
let me know what you thought of of the latest episode light went
00:39:15
out. Anywho, that's it for this
00:39:19
episode. Thank you so much for watching
00:39:22
or listening. I'll be back next Monday.
00:39:25
If you're if you're tapping the follow button, you can expect me
00:39:27
next Monday. That's all.
00:39:30
Thank you so much for listening and for watching.
00:39:33
Keep it scary everyone, see you soon.