Creepy little bearded creatures, giants so big they emptied out the oceans, and encounters with demons are only some of the accounts that the Spanish reported after arriving in the Americas. Through handwritten books that we still have a hold of today, we can dive a little deeper into the mysteries of what the Spanish called, "The New World."
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Today we're going to go back to the 1500s, a time when the
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Spanish conquistadores are arriving to the Americas and
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they're discovering a whole new world.
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They talked about what people dress like, what they ate, new
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plants, new animals, and a bunch of other things.
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Actually, Friars chroniclers were known to take serious like
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real detailed records of what they saw.
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Even with drawings and everything.
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You can find these things today. However, there is a part of
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history that doesn't get talked about very often and it's about
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The Phantoms, the ghosts. I can't say ghosts.
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Here it is again, The Phantoms, the ghosts of the Americas.
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So today we're going to talk about some of the creepy things
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that the Spanish encountered when they were arriving.
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Short disclaimer here, Some of the descriptions are very gory,
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very eerie. So please use some discretion if
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you are listening around younger people or those who may be
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sensitive to this kind of material.
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You ready? My name is Edwin and this is
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Paranormal Club. One of the conquistadores, his
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name was Alvar Nunez Cabeza de Vaca.
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He was living amongst the Qua Will Tekken.
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He arrived there in what is now known as Texas, right?
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The terrain doesn't forgive anybody.
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It's rough. It's hard to live there.
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He'd actually had a shipwreck. So this guy is not doing that
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well. He needed to chronicle some of
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his adventures, some of his exploration, some of the things
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that he discovered, and one of them happened to be about this
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creepy little creature, natives, the indigenous people there were
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talking about, and it was known as La Mala Cosa, the bad thing.
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This thing was described to be this small bearded creature.
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It would walk around like that night, lurking around when they
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were having dances or just in the settlements at night when
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everybody was indoors. It possessed incredible
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strength. So the thing could do a lot of
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stuff. It could potentially hurt you.
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And also it was known to be sometimes in the shape of a
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male, sometimes female. You would see as a little woman,
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little man, but it was tiny, tiny little bearded creature
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that would roam around. People would say that they could
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find this thing or they could sense that it was near because
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her hair on their arms would stand up and also the hair on
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their legs. This is how they could see it,
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and it would only show up at night.
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You might notice that this is a recurring pattern where the
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darkness has a lot to do with some of the creatures that get
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described here. OK, so this is I guess the, the,
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the nice part of this, right? You might imagine it like, oh, a
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little elf, little dwarf thing that's like roaming around at
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night. OK, it's creepy, but here is
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what made it just violent. They would say that you could
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tell that it was coming because a torch, like a fire would
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appear outside of a door of one of the houses.
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That means you were targeted. It would go into the house, it
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would grab its victim, it would cut its chest open, it would
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remove the organs, it would throw the intestines in the
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fire, and then it would like heal the wounds.
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So you would never know that like that thing happened, like
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that completely gory scene happened.
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Why would it do that? I don't know why.
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How would somebody even think of this right to to even come up
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with a situation like that? People would eventually learn to
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talk about like communicating because it was like it was
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always there. And they would ask it things
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like, hey, like where do you come from?
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And it would point to the ground and say it's coming deep from
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the earth. They would try to feed it.
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It would say, no, I don't want it.
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It was this was all described to the people who were writing down
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all these things, right? But like, detailed descriptions
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of these creatures. Now, the the guy that that was
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chronicling Alvar Nunez, Cabeza de Vaca, he didn't believe this
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story. He was like, yeah, right.
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You guys like, what are you OK? That doesn't make any sense.
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But then the victims, they were like, oh, yeah.
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And then they went and they show the scars of of this thing that
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that live there because it they would heal it.
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We could still see like the scar where it cut them open.
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Also some of the survival stories like, yeah, this thing
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came by it, it cut me. That's what it did.
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So then Albert was like, this thing might be real.
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And immediately he was like, it's a demon.
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It's the devil himself. That's another pattern that you
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might notice here with the Spanish is that these things get
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described as demons or the devil personified as a thing, as an
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object and things like that. You you're going to see this
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over and over and over again. We're going to talk a little bit
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about why are the reasons why I believe so, but you can also
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chime in and tell me why you think that is.
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What if the scars about the situation in particular, what if
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that part was like, the scars are there, but they weren't and
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they just got added on to the Chronicles?
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What if this was somehow a group of people talking about this
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thing, but really they just begged on each other's story and
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turned turned into this thing and then we all believed it
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because it was recorded and we believe that now like writing is
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accurate 100% and it's true. But the creepy thing is like,
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why did they say that it came from underground?
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Here is another one that I found that the Maracunga Poltergeist
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there is this leader. He is described as his handsome
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leader, the brother of the, he's just high-ranking.
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He's like one day waking up and he's like, you know what, I want
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to be a Christian. So he goes around, he's like
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telling everybody, hey, I'm going to turn into a Christian.
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But some of the things, some of the entities that hurt him were
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not good. They were said to be demons and
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they did not want to lose 1 of their souls to Christianity.
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It's according to the Chronicles.
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So they were doing everything in their power to stop this.
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No, this is a bizarre story. I think this is the the one
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that's the most insane out of all of them.
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They say that he could, he was the only one that could see
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these kinds of birds that would stink really bad.
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But you know, he would say they're right there.
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They're right there, but nobody else could see them.
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When they were like, going around, like walking stones
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would get thrown at him. He would get assaulted like
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physically thrown. Like there was one case where he
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was thrown from one side of the room to like the other wall and
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witnesses, people could see him doing that.
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There was one really, really bizarre incident that I don't
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know why anybody would would bring it up like would say like
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this. But there was a glass of wine
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and they witnesses say that they saw the wine get poured out of
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the glass by itself. The glass kind of rearranged
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itself. The wine came right back on the
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glass. How do you explain that?
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Eventually he's like, you know what, I really need to get
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baptized. Let's get this done.
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But he needed to get to 1 of the Christian settlements.
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So he asked for some Christians to come help him out.
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And they made their way to like the hills and, and stuff.
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And there was this overpass that was kind of dangerous.
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And just as they were going there, something grabbed them
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and try to pull them. So the Spaniards, they were
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like, what is happening, right? They grab some ropes.
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They tied them around like themselves and then they tied
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around him and he was like lifting.
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Like I imagine this kind of like a balloon.
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I don't know if that's like, right.
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It's just the way it was described.
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Like, you know, like in a parade, you're like, you have a
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huge balloon. You have people like tied to
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like a rope to it. That's what I imagined.
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But they were like going, going around and they were like, let's
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do something. So they grab some crosses.
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They were like doing the Santa cross.
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They were trying to like really stop them from like being thrown
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out over the cliffs. Stones were being thrown at him
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at that point. But they they somehow managed to
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get to this church. They get finally got there.
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Once they're there, everything goes down.
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Like he is lifted up, like levitated.
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He's flipped upside down. He gets slapped so hard by this
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invisible ghost thing that his hat like flies off.
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Everybody's like, what is happening?
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Like, and it's just like that the whole night.
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They have the holy water around them.
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They have, they put that, you know, that stole the, the, the,
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the priest thing. They put it like on, on him.
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They do the sign of the cross. They pray and they pray and they
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pray and it's like that until morning.
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Then they notice like he, he's, he's asking for the, the water,
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like the to get baptized. Finally gets it.
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He gets baptized and then he's like, I'm good now.
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And to prove it, he steps out. Nothing happens to him.
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He actually ended ended up living like a pretty happy life
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according to the chronicles. Now imagine this is reaching
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Europe now, like the stories of the new world.
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These things are happening. And there's a very curious thing
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here. There's this thing that that
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it's worth mentioning, right? The explorers, these
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conquistadores, they wanted to get to the New world and look
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good because they wanted more money to keep, like funding the
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explorations. Also, if they didn't find
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anything good, they didn't come back with a good story.
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Why were they even there? Right?
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So they needed to come up with something.
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Plus, I'm pretty sure they also wanted to stand up to
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Christianity against the rest of the world.
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They would say, you know what? The New World is flooded with
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demons. There's a lot of bad things
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there, and Christianity is working.
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We need to spread the word of God there and everywhere.
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So we need more money. I mean, it makes makes sense,
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right? It has logical sense to think
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that that might happen. All these things are very
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interesting actually, and and they come from some of the
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books, you know, that that are actually just scans of these
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handwritten texts, like the the Florentine Codex.
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There is a true history of the conquest of New Spain.
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There's a bunch of text on this material and they're said to be,
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you know, true accounts from the people that were exploring at
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the time. What do you think about this
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one? I think this was the the most
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out there one, but still, could it be true #3 that you are the
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Bootsley? Did I say that right?
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Hold on, let me try that again. The Aztec night creatures, also
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known as the Night Axe, also known as the Yuate Bootsley.
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Now this one very graphic heads up.
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This is known as this headless figure that used to roam around.
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It's, this is going to sound strange, but it has its rib cage
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cut open and as it's walking around it, it's like a cage
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that's kind of doing this like, and it's like like a wood
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cutter, like somebody's chopping wood is what it sounds like.
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The belief here is if you hear it, you're walking around and
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you hear it and you run away. Bad fate.
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That's not good. You're not supposed to run away
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from it. Plus, if you do decide to run
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away from it, it's going to follow you.
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The echoes are going to go around you like they're going to
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sound like it's chasing you. What you're supposed to do.
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Is it like a brave warrior, is what they say, right?
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A brave warrior would reach, like, stick its hand in there,
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grab its heart and not really pull it out, just kind of wait
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until it's like, ow, ow, let me go.
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Then it would try to grant you a supernatural wish.
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What kind of wish Basically like good luck in war and stuff like
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that. Because they say that if you
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stick your hand in there and you grab something and you pull it
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out, you might get a white feather like the soft white
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feather or you might get some thorns.
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Thorns are actually if you, let's say you pull out three
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thorns, that means you're going to get 3 captives in the next
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battle. So that's good.
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However, you might not always get a feather or thorns in
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there. Sometimes you might end up
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something much worse, like this black charcoal Y material or
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like rags. And that means that your life is
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going to be full of misery and bad luck and that sucks.
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Like these creatures. There were a lot.
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There were a lot of them actually.
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There was one that was. Let me see.
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This is a rolling bundle of ashes that they Scott Lipoca,
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which is a giant coyote that looks like a wolf that roams
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around also at night. The stories of now Wallace now
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now Wallace could make it its own episode, like a standalone
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episode of these things are bizarre.
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These are shape shifters and there's a word for them in the
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US that we've kind of gotten to know, which is skinwalkers might
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not be the exact same thing. Now, now Wallace are known to
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change into like transform into animals and depending on just
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how like these are the magical people, right, like they they're
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aware of this. They have this ability.
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Depending on how good you are at it, you might transform into
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like a weasel or you might end up like like a big black dog,
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which is like the coolest 1 you could be.
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Still, they're really creepy because in in videos you can see
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sometimes like Oh, and a wild caught on tape and it turns out
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that there's this person. All of a sudden the person
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disappears and and a dog appears in its place, which is crazy
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like to to even think about that this has been caught on camera.
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Is it real? I don't know.
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But like the idea of now Wallace being able to do that.
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What did that creep you out about being out, you know, in
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the middle of the night and then seeing that?
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I think I think it's very fascinating thinking about like
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pre colonial creatures and all these like supernatural beings
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that are out there. I mean, it's one thing that I, I
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know for sure I'm going to be looking into a lot as I learn
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more about Latin American culture and, and the, the, the
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ideas of all these creatures and also the belief that surrounds
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it, right? Because it's not just the
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creatures themselves, but like, what do they mean?
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Who are they? What significance do they have?
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And why were they seen even when the Spanish were arriving to the
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Americas? By the way, these are spread out
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that this these didn't all take place in like this.
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The Texas area. The very first one took place in
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Texas. Then we have other ones that are
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in what is now Colombia, other ones, what is now, you know,
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Mexico. And there's a there's a few
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more. I find these pretty creepy.
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There's this other one, number four.
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He's like in by a death omen. And this is, this is an
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interesting story because you have a group of women that are
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out doing their daily, you know, tasks at, at this place.
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They do like they, they make salt.
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Basically they're like getting the salt, making it, you know,
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drying it, all the stuff, the process that, that is involved
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with making salt. All of a sudden this creature,
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this really tall creature approaches them and it's walking
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toward them and they're looking at it like frozen in fear.
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They're like, what is this thing is this really tall, monstrous
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looking thing. And as it gets close, they
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notice that it's holding 2 babies in its arms.
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The women are looking at it like, what do we do?
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Right? You can't run away.
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This thing's going to get you Eventually.
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The thing vanishes, but it didn't just disappear, didn't
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just go away. It actually ended up threatening
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them, saying, hey, I promise, there's this.
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There's this line. Let me see if I can find it
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exactly. But it just says something like
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I promised, hold on, let me find it.
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As you're looking at it, the thing begins to say, I promise
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you that I have to kill all the women of the Christians and the
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majority of you, but actually disappeared right then.
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And the women left like they ran away.
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They started reporting it. They're like, we just saw this
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thing. We just saw this thing.
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By the way, this happened in what is believed to be then at
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that moment, you know, the Kingdom of Peru and it actually
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predated this plague like this really bad illness where you
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would get this fever, you would get really, really hot.
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You would get headaches. It was suddenly moved to your
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left ear and then you would die like 2 to three days after that.
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Now the creature itself, the way that the, you know when, when
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the the Spanish recorded it and they wrote it out, described it
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as having a torn open stomach, intestines that are hanging and
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it was carrying two babies. What happened after that by the
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Spanish, It was like this was an omen.
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This was a demon, a devil. This thing came and told people
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that that was it. So it wanted to kill us
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Christians, Same topic, right? Like same theme that we're
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following throughout the whole, at least for now with, with all
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this stuff that Christians are kind of like the protectors.
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They show that there is a different religion that they
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must follow to be saved. And then everything's good.
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They're kind of like the heroes, right?
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Interesting take. Just I want you to keep that in
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mind. I'm not saying anything else,
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right? But they would say that even
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because it was gruesome, like a huge portion of the population
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died because of this. And those that were there that
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survived or that were dying or, or felt kind of ill and didn't
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die. They would say that they could
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see the spirits walking among the, the, the living and that
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that omen had predicted that there was going to be like a
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thinning of the veil between the dead and the living right then.
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And that was that. Every once in a while, like on
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my Facebook feed or something, I could I see this image of this
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huge skeleton. Well, it turns out the Spanish
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had recorded something like that.
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Actually, multiple chroniclers have reported stuff like this.
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And I found one, found one of these things.
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Here is what happened. Now, these are known as the
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giants of Ecuador, the legend. So it was said in the story that
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the natives saw these giant Reed rafts.
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They were coming in from like the ocean.
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And as they're staring out there, they're like, huh, these
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people don't look normal. As they get even closer, they
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notice that these people are giants.
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Like they're massive. They're saying that the average
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size, like an average size human, like a man would only
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reach up to its knee and that's it.
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And go to couldn't go more than that.
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And it had huge eyes, the kind of like plates, like huge, huge
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eyes. And they would eat a lot.
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Like they would finish the food supply, like all the stuff that
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they had around there, it was gone.
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Like the, the one giant would eat like the equivalent of 50
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people would eat. So they would cast these giant
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Nets in the ocean. They were like, get all this
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fish. And supposedly they were like
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finishing the fish. So they're like, what the heck.
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But they couldn't do anything about like the natives couldn't
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do anything. Have these groups of giants that
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are there and they say that when they arrived, they were like,
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some of them were they? They didn't have beards or
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anything. Some of them were naked too.
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They were just like there and they brought no women.
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It was only men, remember, they have no women, right?
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So sometimes they try to like force themselves onto the native
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women and like in the act like they would kill them because
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like these are giants. So what the heck.
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But they still like the indigenous people couldn't do
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anything. They're like they're going to
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eat us and like, what do we do? Eventually the heavens opened up
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and this they say that this giant, like, I mean, not this
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giant, this Angel came down with a sword and just sliced right
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through every single one of them.
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And then the fire came down and burned what was left.
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Also, it was said that they got water because you know, it's
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there's no fresh water there. So they would dig wells like
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they would get wells, but to dig through they would actually get
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go through the rock. Like these are very strong
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giants. They go through the rock and the
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remains of those wells are still around.
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You can still see them. That's the creepy part.
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Also the Spanish when they heard this stuff, they were like, did
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this really happen? But then they saw like molars,
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like teeth, huge, huge teeth that they said that they were
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like weigh like over half a pound.
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And they were, they said to also find some found, they found some
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shin bones that were like just way too big to be from like a
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regular human. That's what they believed it.
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Now this was kind of proven because another Spanish
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chronicler said the same thing about these giant bone remains
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from another similar kind of legend.
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Did giants roam around us? That's what I want to know
00:19:45
because that from that second Spanish person, they found the,
00:19:48
the the giants, like the giant remains in what's now Mexico.
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But what does that mean? We're they're giants?
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Didn't the Bible mention something about giants?
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I've never I don't remember. But like, if any of you know, I
00:20:01
want to know. I want to know because why did
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these educated chroniclers? Accept it.
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It's because they said that they saw the physical evidence
00:20:10
really, really creepy in all these cases, which, you know,
00:20:15
they talk about all these like supernatural things that they
00:20:17
encountered when they arrived. The the, I think the the
00:20:20
creepiest, I mean the creepiest one.
00:20:22
I already told you which is the creepiest one.
00:20:23
The second one I guess would be the rolling like ashes thing.
00:20:27
I mean, imagine just the ball of ash rolling around that would,
00:20:31
you know, get people. It's, it's eerie.
00:20:33
But I think an interesting take on this is that you have
00:20:37
basically 2 worlds that are clashing.
00:20:39
We have the indigenous people who are minding their own
00:20:41
business, living their life, having their own beliefs.
00:20:44
And you have the Spanish, we're bringing along a new religion,
00:20:47
Christianity. And they also have their own
00:20:49
tasks, right? Things that they're looking for,
00:20:51
like they want to be known for the adventure, that they want
00:20:54
the fame and they want the gold. As we're recording all these
00:20:58
things, we notice that they talk a lot about pushing Christianity
00:21:01
on people that bad things, things that are really eerie and
00:21:04
scary are demons. One thing about the Spanish
00:21:07
though, by the way, because they had these beliefs, they were
00:21:10
terrified of witches, right? They were terrified of witches
00:21:13
and demons. Anything that had to do with the
00:21:14
devil, they were with the devil because they believed that,
00:21:16
right? Their, their religion was strong
00:21:18
in that sense. And I imagine the indigenous
00:21:21
people being like, I know what scares the Spanish that just
00:21:25
scare them. Tell them about the witches.
00:21:28
So they could probably like manipulate them like that,
00:21:30
right? I mean, I would do that like you
00:21:33
have people that are coming by like kind of messing up your
00:21:36
flow and everything. I would be like, you know, up in
00:21:40
the trees there's witches. So then the Spanish wouldn't go
00:21:43
there. I, I, I don't know, that's what
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I imagined, right? Which might have also played a
00:21:47
role in messing up the reality as we're reading it now.
00:21:51
The interesting thought is it goes both ways, right?
00:21:53
You can mess you can use it to your advantage too.
00:21:56
I always think like, you know, when I get like my own house or
00:21:58
something and I'm building like the entrance to it, I imagine
00:22:01
like a bunch of trees and creepy stuff.
00:22:03
I might just put like fake creepy things so that if anybody
00:22:07
tries to rob the house, like they didn't have to see that
00:22:10
imagine. I don't know.
00:22:12
I don't know if that would work actually.
00:22:13
They might just catch on and be like, ah, ha, that's funny.
00:22:15
Or like a curse, like some type of creepy, like writing that I
00:22:19
just make up or something. That would be really creepy.
00:22:22
I don't know, I I wouldn't Bravo House if they had that if we had
00:22:26
to to connect this to today's stories, we notice a pattern of
00:22:30
poltergeist creatures that roam around the middle of the night.
00:22:33
You also have these things that are like very gory that have I
00:22:37
have not heard about or seen or I guess in recent like modern
00:22:41
kind of folklore. You don't really see or hear
00:22:45
about creatures with like intestines hanging out, which
00:22:48
seemed pretty common according to the Spanish people who were
00:22:51
chronicling all this, all this stuff.
00:22:53
But now we don't hear about that.
00:22:54
But we do share about polser guys like things being, you
00:22:56
know, people get thrown around the room, things moving by
00:23:00
themselves. The idea also of Malacosa, which
00:23:04
is, you know, the bad thing, the creature with the with a beard.
00:23:07
We might know them as like when days or, you know, elves, but
00:23:10
not the the eerie gut thing. There's there's this interesting
00:23:15
one that is called El Silvon, which is this, this guy who
00:23:18
walks around with his sack and in the sack there's the bones of
00:23:22
people, but it's not like gory like that, like intestines
00:23:26
hanging out and stuff. Another question that I was
00:23:28
wondering here is were these stories political?
00:23:32
I mean, I think in a sense they kind of are, but not because
00:23:38
right now we're exploring these from like a folklore kind of
00:23:40
angle, but they did have an incentive that was tied to
00:23:45
politics and government and support that they needed.
00:23:48
So were they made with that in mind?
00:23:51
This is the thing for us that we have to think about that too.
00:23:54
Also, it's important to know like the distinction here from
00:23:57
the angle that we're coming from and the angle that we're looking
00:24:01
at it from, and also what the Spanish we're observing it from,
00:24:06
because we're different time periods, different areas,
00:24:09
different incentives. Keep that in mind with all these
00:24:12
things, right? Because it's it's different
00:24:14
depending on how you look at it. If we would have gotten this
00:24:17
chronicles from the indigenous people would have seen the whole
00:24:20
other thing. I'm pretty sure.
00:24:22
Of course, we have to mention the idea of the fossils, like
00:24:26
the fossils, the bones of the giants that they exist.
00:24:29
Were they aliens? What are we talking about here?
00:24:31
Have you guys heard of all these other creatures?
00:24:33
What about the the Mount Shasta people?
00:24:37
What are they called? I have a story on them too, on
00:24:39
Horror Story. I have a bunch of things on
00:24:40
there actually as well on Horror Story.
00:24:43
I also talk about the Spanish influence with the story of LA
00:24:45
Vidjan de Guadalupe, which is, you know, like a very important
00:24:49
figure in, in now Mexican culture and what it can actually
00:24:53
mean. I, I want you to look that one
00:24:55
out because it's, it's, it's different.
00:24:58
It's going to give you a different perspective, a
00:24:59
different idea of what it means just for you to look at, right?
00:25:04
In the end, I think that these were not like modern ghost
00:25:09
stories. You can sense that right away,
00:25:11
right from the descriptions of how they were told.
00:25:14
These events were a reality according to the indigenous
00:25:17
people and the Spanish and the people who read these accounts
00:25:20
directly. So imagine that driving a lot of
00:25:24
your decisions that you're taking about the new world.
00:25:28
I think that the the cool thing about this is not if they're
00:25:31
true, not if they're fake, but just everything that came after
00:25:34
that. How a story, how an account, how
00:25:38
this creepy supernatural thing can affect the rest of history,
00:25:42
the spread of religion, the ideas that we, you know, the
00:25:45
things that we see. This is why personally, like I
00:25:47
don't even I mean, it'd, it'd be interesting to know if they're
00:25:50
true or not, but also it doesn't matter.
00:25:53
Like it's just what we got. It's the reality now we have
00:25:57
these accounts, and now that's what we have to deal with.
00:25:59
So I think the real mystery here is, are these accounts revealing
00:26:03
the psychology of back then, the history, the folklore?
00:26:06
Or is it about something that we still can explain to this day?
00:26:12
All right, just want to take a minute here to shout out some
00:26:13
people that left us comments on our on our episode, on the
00:26:18
blobs, the scary, spidery looking things that are crawling
00:26:21
around at night when you're like half awake, half asleep.
00:26:24
Huge shout out to Kristen for leaving your comment here.
00:26:26
We'll reply to that one. Leto with the Saturn kind of
00:26:31
icon there. Pusheen, Thanks a lot for your
00:26:33
comment. Miss Durbin also saying so
00:26:38
thrilling to see a new episode on my feet.
00:26:39
Awesome. Natalia saying that it's true.
00:26:42
Many many humans can be really horrible.
00:26:44
This is about a common amount about sorry about war and then
00:26:48
the just the horrific things that are that went on with with
00:26:52
with well, some of the tragedies and some how you get to see all
00:26:55
these the worst part of humanity.
00:26:58
But yeah, I appreciate that comment, Natalia.
00:26:59
Thank you. An ancient or Mystic says, Oh
00:27:02
yeah, Mystic. Those spiders appear around
00:27:04
psychic individuals. The stronger you are, the more
00:27:06
they show up around you. They feed on the energy and try
00:27:09
to keep you asleep or attack you in general because you shine
00:27:11
like a light to them. I had to get rid of some a few
00:27:14
years back and I had a giant one larger than a person on the
00:27:18
ceiling over my head, my bed and a bunch of them around it about
00:27:21
the size of large cats and small dogs that would crawl around the
00:27:24
room and up and down on the walls.
00:27:26
It happens. This comment really got me
00:27:29
because like I remember seeing an enormous, I'm talked about
00:27:33
this in that in that episode 2 episodes ago, how I saw this
00:27:36
large, large spider crawling down and yeah, I, I stood up and
00:27:41
I still saw it like I'm standing at the edge of the bed and I'm
00:27:44
looking at it and it's there and I was freaked out for that time.
00:27:47
Other times I've seen like weird, creepy blobs.
00:27:50
So by the way, this is still ongoing like the the comments
00:27:53
here about this, if you have anything to talk about about
00:27:55
this, I'm still interested. In case you've seen these, I'm
00:27:58
interested in knowing what have you seen that isn't like, sure,
00:28:01
it can be the hat man or the old hag or some other shadow figure,
00:28:05
but have you ever seen these blobs, these spiders
00:28:08
specifically, or any other kind of lobby dark figure in your
00:28:11
room? Please send it in.
00:28:13
And if you have any ideas for content here or anything you
00:28:16
want to hear about, something you want me to talk about, write
00:28:19
to me. Edwin at paranormalclub.com.
00:28:21
My contact information is in the description of this episode.
00:28:25
As always, thank you very much for listening or watching.
00:28:28
Keep it scary everyone. See you soon.

