Stories Our Parents Told Us: Duendes, Devils, and Cursed Souls

Stories Our Parents Told Us: Duendes, Devils, and Cursed Souls

The dark folklore of Mexico and beyond, featuring stories our parents warned us about and still scare the heck out of us. Places with mischievous house spirits, deals with the devil, cursed places, and creepy little creatures shape the oral traditions passed down through generations.

Along the way, we also share haunting real-life experiences submitted by listeners, from eerie family gifts of mediumship to unforgettable brushes with death omens. You ready?

Happy Hispanic Heritage Month, everyone!

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Today we're launching our celebration of Hispanic Heritage

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Month. So what does this mean?

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We're celebrating people's contributions, histories, all of

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the culture that people who live in the United States and around

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the world that can people can trace back the heritage to

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Spain, Mexico, Central America, South America, Caribbean,

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Spanish speaking nations and really bring us out into the

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light and say, hey, here we are, we're here, this is what we're

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doing, let's celebrate. So I found it fitting here to

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share with you some of the really creepy legends and some

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of the folk traditions. And some of these I would call

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like the roots or the baseline of a bunch of stories that my

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family has experienced and talked about really

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understanding where they're coming from.

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Obviously, I'm just going to hit the very, very tip of the

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iceberg here because there's a bunch, I'm saying a a bunch and

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things that span from like way before, like we had accurate

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record keeping or records that we can actually access.

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And that's what I have for you today.

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You ready? My name's Edwin and this is

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Paranormal Club. We are actually doing this a

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little bit backwards today. I just did this to test out the

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audio here. Everything's good.

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So you should be fine and the reasons I have this like ear

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thing, I don't want to like keep those things on the whole time.

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I need to save them so that when I edit, I can actually edit.

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I don't really ever felt that, but like when your ears get all

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weird and like I, I felt like this thing that you would just

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go like, I just, I imagined like roaches coming out.

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I had a dream where like things were crawling out of my ear.

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There was nothing in there, but it just everyone saw you like

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your body would react like look like like a little butterfly

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kind of thing. But anyway, I got to the, I went

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to the doctor and everything's good after a bunch of

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medications. So I'm still kind of still kind

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of loopy. You might seem a little bit like

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that's what's going on. So this week's episode on Horror

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Story is going to be about doendes, right?

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So I did a bunch of research on Doendes.

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Doendes are like goblin like creatures and there's a bunch of

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of different creatures that are also kind of fit the same

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description. You have a Lucius Chaneques,

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obviously Doendes. And then when you go into more

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European or like Celtic kind of cultures, there's more when you

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get into the, the fairies, the all these other, all these other

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things. But we're going to stick with

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Mexico here. Obviously there's a lot more,

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right? We have stories from Puerto

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Rico, we have stories from Central America, South America.

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So in case you have a story from wherever you may come from,

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wherever the world's bringing you in right now, or if you're

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just interested in this and you happen to know about this stuff,

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send them in. Like I want to know so we can we

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can share them, we can learn about them here.

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And you guys also pull through with the comments on on TikTok

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and Instagram. And I didn't get emails.

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So we're going to share a lot of those stories here.

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We're going to start off with some of the legends.

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This is the story of La Mujer and Vendada and Vendada.

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What the heck does that mean? Doendes is like goblin and

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Vendada means taking over by Doendes sort of like that.

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So here's a story in El Salto in Jalisco.

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A lot of these stories in Jalisco, by the way, there was

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this woman who was out by Las Santas.

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These areas, these like pools of water, the crystalline waters,

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as people sometimes go out there and bathe.

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So this woman was out there and she's, you know, sitting on a

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rock, washing her hair, whatever people do when they're bathing,

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when all of a sudden she starts hearing these strange sounds.

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She kind of looks around and see something the distance, other

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people that are around there, kind of they can kind of see,

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oh, there's a lady out there. Yeah, OK, we saw her.

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Yeah. Cool.

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And leave. But they see this woman kind of

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acting strange later on. It's night time, right?

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It's like the sun has already set.

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It's dark out, not like midnight or whatever.

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It's probably like 8, maybe 7-30, something like that.

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And they're like, hey, she hasn't come back.

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Where is she? So some people are like, oh,

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yeah, she was out bathing by the Luna Santas.

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They're like, what? OK, was this weird?

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Why is she back? So a group of people go out

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there and they see her and she's sitting there in the rock in the

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water. By the way, this is the rock is

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in the water. And she's just kind of laughing.

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She's like, ah, ha, ha. He, he, he.

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Oh, my God. I'm not.

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Oh, my God. Do you listen to me?

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No. And they notice that she's

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acting strange. She's like kind of looking

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giggling. She's like, this is so, so odd.

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And they call her, they're like, hey, like, come out.

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She's just like there. She's like ignoring them

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completely. She doesn't even know what's

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going on. Then some of the people are

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like, you know what's happening? She's been taking over by the

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duentes. So they're like, and they

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believe it, right? So they go and they find this

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guy who happens to know all about this creep me out, a

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person who just happens to know about healing in the pro process

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of everything. And they're like, she's acting

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like this. She's acting really weird.

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She's like, yeah, that's, that's right.

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She's been taking over by doing this.

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So they're like, hey, what do we do?

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And they say, OK, look, go to the toy store or any store that

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sells toys, buy a bunch of them, whole bunch of toys, just buy

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them. Go up to where she is and at

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9:00 throw them into the water. Use that time, that distraction

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to bring her out and she'll be she'll come back to normal.

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So they're like, OK, they go to the store, buy a bunch of little

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plates they call like Trastasitos, a little plates,

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cups, spoon, little plastic toys, dolls, everything they can

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find. Buy a bunch.

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They go out to the to the Sankas and they throw them in the water

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right at that time, right when they do that, the woman kind of

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stops laughing and then the husband goes in, grabs or pulls

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her out. And when she's out of the water,

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she's just kind of like this, like acting like what's going

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on? People are like, why is she like

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that? Like my mom has a word to say

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that I don't know if it's a bad word, but like my mom has a has

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a word to say when you're kind of like, not really there, but

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they were saying she was kind of crazy.

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Like what's wrong with you? Eventually, like, you know, they

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bring her back to the healer and they start kind of, you know,

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cleansing her, basically hitting her with basil and doing a whole

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smoke cleanse and like really trying to get whatever this is

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out. She's like, you know what?

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She's not in Vendada. She's a spiritoada.

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Her spirit has been taking over like this is more than just like

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Dwendes, like being entertained. It turns out that the Dwendes

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were kind of doing funny things to keep her entertained.

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They were laughing, jumping, splashing around the water,

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hitting each other, acting really silly.

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So so the woman all this time had been like, this is really

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funny. She even said when she came back

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to like normal, she said that she had heard them in like

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really high pitched voices, that she found them very interesting.

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Very curioso how people say I'm very curious, very like, oh,

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what, like what is that like little dolls like jumping around

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and people still couldn't understand what the reasoning

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for that was. Like who were they like?

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What are they from? But they they knew that they

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existed from that day on. People consider Las Santas as an

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area where the Wendes dwell. It just kind of hang out.

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The thing is, people normally say that the one these are like

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from the forest, but the person who said this, by the way, this

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happened to a guy who gave the account on this book, the

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collection that I that I ended up finding, and he said that it

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was his aunts comadres experience.

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So comadres like her really close friend, her commadre like

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the what is it? You know how when they say how

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do you even say this? It's like when you have a

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godmother of your child. So it's like you're you call

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them comadres is basically just assume it's like they're really

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close friends. My comadre, my really close

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friend and all of that was like this guy who said that was

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saying that the Dwendes don't they're not from like the

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forest. Like they actually live in the

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water. That's where they come out from.

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So when you hear dwendes stories, think about that.

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Are you near a water source? Are you in a forest, in the

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Monte, in the mountains? Where are you and are you what

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you're looking at? Are they actually Gwendes?

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Are they something else? Tell me if you've ever had any

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Gwendes stories, like if you, if anybody's ever told you a story

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about little people. Because I know for me, the very,

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very first story I ever published on any podcast on

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Scary FM was about, it was called The Little People, The

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Little creatures from the hills. That's the name of it and it

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talked about, I wrote out an experience, something that

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actually happened. It's based on a true story.

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It was kind of embellished a little bit, but is when a couple

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of friends and I were walking around in Peru actually were I

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was like backpacking down there. It was going to be 10 years ago

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now and I was, I was going around there, going through

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this, this small town of Chinchero, which is in the

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Sacred Valley. And if you're ever been to Peru,

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you probably know about Cusco, which is where people go in

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order to get to, I was Calientes in order to get to Machu Picchu.

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Anywhere near Cusco, there are these, they call it like the

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Sacred Valley, right? So they usually have tours that

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go down there. You go in, you go over the

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mountain cause Cusco's kinda like a little hill area.

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You go into the valley and there you have a bunch of small towns

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in those small towns, like there's one called Chinchero.

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And Chinchero had the school where I used to volunteer at.

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It was like a like an after school program kind of thing.

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And for people that live out there, they don't have a lot of

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resources. So we kind of knew that area and

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we, you would go there in these little vans and they would only

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like drive back and forth up to a certain hour and they would

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stop like basically once it got really late, like in dark, they,

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they wouldn't go through these windy roads anymore.

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They'd just stop. So we were right around that

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time and we missed it that we missed our, our last return.

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So we're like, let's just stay. So we wanted to stay.

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But along the way, I meant that like when we were walking back

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towards the town, because we went out to this little lake

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area thinking that it was going to be a cool thing, but really

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it was nothing there. Just literally just a body of

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water with nothing on, no walking paths, nothing.

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It was just like we should have known, like we were very naive

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thinking that oh, it's probably like a tourist attraction, but

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it wasn't. And as we were walking back, I

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met this guy. His name's Eddie.

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I still remember Eddie. We met his family, obviously

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have a picture somewhere. And we started talking.

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And as we were talking there, we took the pictures with his

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family. He invited us to come back.

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We actually never went back. And he said to be careful of the

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little people. And I thought it was joking, but

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he wasn't. They had a very straight face.

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And he said, yeah, like, they take animals sometimes.

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Sometimes they're said to take children.

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So all imagine from his, like, house, walking back into the

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town at night, The dark. This is just dark.

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Dark, right? You're in a valley.

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It's not like a normal, like what you were used to in a city,

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right? This is dark.

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I just kept thinking of these little creatures from the hills.

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So every culture has some some version of this, or at least

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something that symbolizes this, this thing.

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It turns out the whole duente thing is way more complex than

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what I thought it was. So the whole duentes A Lucius

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Chaneques, like they have their own history and there's a reason

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why they're hidden. Like why we don't openly talk

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about duentes or why they turn into kind of scary stories is

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because they were hidden. They were told like in secret

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and stuff. And it had to do with the

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Spanish basically. And the way that they made it

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seem like these stories of these spirits were evil back in the,

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you know, the conquest, the conquistadores, the

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missionaries, actually the ones that that were coming by and you

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know, to Mexico and the the whole Mesoamerican area.

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And they were talking about all these customs that the natives

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had. They were like, yeah, this is

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this is evil. This is stuff of the devil.

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So it's really started, you know, kind of being kept in in

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in kept like a secret. You know, like you have to

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worship in secret. There's a whole thing.

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So by the way, the episode that comes out for Horror Story, I go

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into the whole stuff like why this happened and even the story

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of La Riteja de Guadalupe the the weekend from the tebayak.

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So if that sounds familiar to you, which it should, if you've

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know anything about Mexican culture, you this should ring a

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bell. I talk about it there.

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So go check it out. Once it's out, it's out.

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This Thursday went along with this episode.

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The same week that this episode comes out, that episode's coming

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out. Now this other story is called

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La Suegra de Lia. Now, this one starts off kind of

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funny because it's this, it's six places in San Juan de Los

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Lagos, again, Jalisco. All these legends kind of take

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place in Holly School. This is where the compilation

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comes from. There's this woman, Esperanza,

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who was worried because her daughter Francisca, she said

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it's she did not have any natural attraction meant that

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she wasn't physically attractive and she was worried.

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She was like, man, no one's going to want to marry her.

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She was kind of sad about it and Francisco was obviously kind of

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sad too. She was like, ah, man, like I'm

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not going to find a husband. I'm going to leave my by myself.

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I'm going to this is bad, right? So she goes out.

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She's out by like the the the mountain area, like the Monte is

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what we know. It's like the Monte and she's

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under this tree, a Mesquite tree Mesquite.

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And she's like, please, like, I need some help, right.

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Like anybody the devil, I need some help.

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I don't want to be by myself. And then she gets an answer.

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This man, this guy, his name was Narciso Vargas.

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He shows up on a horse. He's like, he shows up.

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He's like, he's like, what's up? And then she's like, oh, my God,

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like, it's you're real. I'm trying to make this seem

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like a whole novela kind of thing, but now she's was like I

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want to marry you. Oh, I'm pretty sure they they

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talked more about it, right. But he wanted to to marry her

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and she was like, that's kind of weird, like why, why me like and

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he just really wanted her. And they eventually did get

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married and this is called the home.

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The home is going to be at Monte de la era.

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But The thing is, once they started really living together,

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she started freaking out because he would do things that he

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shouldn't have been able, like no human should have been able

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to do, for example. And she was like, I'm hungry.

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I want some meat. He would go and like from like a

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young cow, like a calf and like cut out a piece of like its leg,

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take it out and be like just kind of wave his hand over the

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cow and it would like regenerate its meat.

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So she was kind of suspicious about it, but still like she was

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hungry. So she ate it right.

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She would do other things that are weird too, Like she wanted

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bread. She would, she was like, I want

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some bread. And they would like he he would

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go into the oven that had it been turned on in weeks and pull

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out like this perfectly baked soft bread.

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Like how does that happen? I don't know.

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She started getting suspicious, though.

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She's like, I don't know about this.

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Like, I think this guy is not. I don't think he's real.

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Like. So she goes to his to her mom.

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She's like, hey, I'm scared. Like this guy is, is not a guy

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like this is the devil. Like he's the devil.

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So the mom's like, really. Yeah, like he's the devil.

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Like I can't be with him. So the mom, Esperanza is like,

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OK, he's the devil. Like, all right.

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So she started like once. Once Natiso came back, she was

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like, OK, well, like, you're not the devil, are you?

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Like if you were the devil, you'd be able to do this.

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And then kind of started taunting him.

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Eventually he was like, I am the devil.

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And Esperanza was like, oh, really?

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Well, if you were the devil, like what can you do?

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He they say that he was able to go make, make himself small and

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go through like the head of like the, the needle.

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What do you call that? Like the head of a needle, like

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the, the hole in a needle. He was able to do like other

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really weird magical things and his parents.

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I was like, OK, I still don't believe you.

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And he was really pissed. He was like, I am the devil.

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He's like, OK, well, if you're the devil, then get yourself in

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this into this bottle and sleep for a little bit.

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I can't imagine this conversation right in real life.

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But I mean, according to the legend, that's what happened.

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So he got down real small to like the size of like he he made

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like a like a little snake, like a little ribbon snake.

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And he went into the bottle and Esperanza was like, oh, got you

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locked them in, like sealed the bottle and buried the bottle.

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And they say, and now you can still hear him, devil himself

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shouting from inside that bottle somewhere in that city, in that

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same town. He's buried at the crossroads.

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And he's still trying to say like he is the devil and that's

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his main thing, trying to prove that he is.

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And yet he's in the bottom locked.

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What stories have you heard about the Devil El Diablo?

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A lot, right? Like people who have encountered

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them actually have some in the common and go through them like

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rapid fire right now. In a bit, in a bit, because

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you're going to spot some some similarities here with the

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stories. Here's another one.

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This is an Arco del Diablo, right?

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So this is near Tuxpan. This is also in Jalisco.

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There is this natural archway. Is that how you say that like an

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arch, an arc of rocks? There is this natural shape of

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rocks that looks kind of like an arc, and it's made of stone.

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And people are like, well, where did this come from?

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Well, they have a story for that.

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Turns out there was this guy who his crops hadn't, they just

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hadn't worked for like several seasons.

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Like he hadn't gotten any, any, anything to sell, anything to

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eat out of them. And he was just like, I don't

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know what to do anymore. Like, you know, they have a

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really tough time. The whole livelihood depends on

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the success of the harvest. And he was desperate.

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He's like, I don't know what to do anymore.

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So what he does is get he's like, I'm, I'm need anything to,

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to, to make this work. He just kind of says it out,

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like yells it out. And then this man on a horse

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comes by and he's like, hey, what's up?

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That's like, who are you, kind of novel, like kind of thing

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here. He's like, ah, look, I'm down on

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my luck. Like I don't know what to do

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here. My crops aren't working.

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What do we do? He's like, OK, well, look, I'm

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going to give you your whole Cosecha, your whole harvest, but

00:21:21
you need to give me your soul. And the guy was like, all right,

00:21:27
deal. Well, I'm pretty sure it wasn't

00:21:31
that that fast. It was a simple answer though,

00:21:34
for him. I mean, his life depended on it,

00:21:36
like he was going to die if he didn't accept it.

00:21:37
So he did. He accepted it and he went back.

00:21:40
And as soon as he got back to his field, everything was like

00:21:44
ready for him. Like he had whatever corn,

00:21:47
whatever he was growing, it was like an abundance, right?

00:21:51
So he got it, sold it, made a bunch of money, planted again,

00:21:56
grew again, like everything was good.

00:21:59
Then one day shows up to his field and there's nothing there.

00:22:05
And he's like, what happened? Well, his deal had expired.

00:22:09
So the devil came by and he's like, hey, it's time.

00:22:15
I need your soul. The guy was like, I'm not going,

00:22:18
I'm not going. So he grabbed onto the rocks.

00:22:20
He, like, grabbed on. No, you're not taking me.

00:22:23
But the devil was stronger. So he's like, yeah, you are.

00:22:26
And like grabbed him with such enormous force that even like

00:22:30
took some of the rocks with him and made this ark with the

00:22:34
stones. And that's why it still remains

00:22:37
there today, that permanent monument.

00:22:41
And if you go there, you can still see those places.

00:22:44
Supposedly. I haven't seen them, but like

00:22:46
you can see those places and this is where they came from.

00:22:50
Here's another one. Here's another one, the Wamuchi.

00:22:54
The Wamuchi is a tree, right? And they grow these interesting

00:22:57
little tamarindo, like like tamarind kind of fruit plants

00:23:02
things. So they say that on the summit

00:23:05
and the municipality of Totatiche, there is this tree

00:23:09
like by itself a Guamuchi. And they say that it's pretty

00:23:14
scary because for years, like over 60 years, people that pass

00:23:19
by it, especially at night, they say that it just feels creepy.

00:23:23
Like it whispers. People have said that they've

00:23:25
seen this dog, that you can't really tell what kind of breed

00:23:28
it is. It's just there, and he's just

00:23:31
looking at you, like, like, kind of growling in this deep, Like,

00:23:36
like, don't get close. Other people have said that

00:23:38
they've seen an object in the shape of a coffin just kind of

00:23:42
appear right at that base of the Guamuchi tree.

00:23:49
But other people say that the fear is not only limited to

00:23:54
humans, Horses that are kind of riding by there, they refuse to

00:23:59
get near that huamuchin tree. And they say that this tree has

00:24:04
its presence that is demonic and it won't allow anybody to get

00:24:09
near it. And it's experienced by multiple

00:24:12
people who passed by that tree. You know, My questions coming

00:24:17
up, any haunted places like that that you've heard of, like the

00:24:26
house at the Corner St. the tree, the river, the river's

00:24:30
bend, the Rock, Places that maybe your parents have warned

00:24:35
you don't get close, there's something wrong with it.

00:24:40
They gave me chills just thinking about that.

00:24:43
We're going to get even more scarier though, because when it

00:24:45
comes to monsters and ghosts, cursed souls, All right, there's

00:24:51
a story in Mesquite. Now this story is is pretty,

00:24:59
pretty dark. Like it's just a heads up here.

00:25:01
So here's here's some of the names, right.

00:25:03
There was Ramiro, who was a father.

00:25:06
Then you have Josefa, who's a mother.

00:25:08
They have two lazy and cruel daughters.

00:25:11
Their names are Concha and Ortensia.

00:25:15
The daughters were very just, you know, kind of like the

00:25:19
imagine, like the Cinderella sisters, like the step sisters,

00:25:23
like that. They were like, I don't want to

00:25:25
do this. Oh my goodness, I'm tired.

00:25:28
I just want to like like, I guess it would be like the

00:25:30
equivalent of like somebody today just wanted to eat hot

00:25:32
Cheetos and not clean the room, for example.

00:25:35
They were just like, but also add on to that somebody who like

00:25:39
straight up just wants like the best and the latest and the and

00:25:42
the coolest things just to show off, right.

00:25:46
That's how that's how I imagine them and that just that angers

00:25:49
me so much. But anyway, one day they're

00:25:52
like, hey, I kind of like the, the daughters are like, I kind

00:25:57
of really want meat. Like go get me some meat Mom.

00:26:01
Like what's you know, like, why don't you just go work?

00:26:04
Like, but no, she's demanding it.

00:26:06
But the mom, you know, she's nice and she's like, they, they

00:26:10
really want meat. I should, I should go find them

00:26:14
some meat. So she takes all the money that

00:26:16
they have saved, like, you know, the, the very little money they

00:26:19
have saved. And she goes out and to the

00:26:22
market. She looks for meat but can't,

00:26:25
can't find any. So she's like, oh, man.

00:26:29
So instead she ends up buying this like Stampa, this like

00:26:31
little thing of a St. like a little icon of a St. a Catholic

00:26:36
St. to hopefully let that be the trigger so that they can earn

00:26:42
more money and be able to get the meat.

00:26:46
So she comes back, but the daughters are like, hey, where's

00:26:49
the meat? And the mom's like, I couldn't

00:26:52
find any, you know, but hopefully the Saint is going to

00:26:56
help us and we're going to be able to get meat that way and

00:27:00
get more money. The daughter is like, one of

00:27:04
them is like, I didn't send you to go forget one of these St.

00:27:10
things. I told you I wanted meat, not

00:27:14
this thing. The daughter is like, give me

00:27:18
that thing. And she pulls the Saint.

00:27:21
The mom is like wait, hold on. Like they're like don't do that.

00:27:26
And she rushes to like grab it but misses trips and hits her

00:27:32
head and she dies. So the daughters are like, well

00:27:42
she's dead. So what do we do?

00:27:45
They were still pissed. They were very angry at the

00:27:48
whole thing. Like they they fought with their

00:27:50
mom, like the whole thing was was just bizarre and they still

00:27:55
wanted meat. So what did they do?

00:28:03
They butchered her body, they cooked her flesh and they ate.

00:28:13
Now when Ramiro, the dad came by and I came back to the house,

00:28:16
they're like, hey, we made this caldo, this Stew, eat it.

00:28:21
But as he was about to eat it, like he had the the meat in his

00:28:25
hand and the spoon, and he heard a voice.

00:28:28
And I said, Ramiro, it is your wife whom you're about to

00:28:32
devour. And he opened his eyes wide and

00:28:36
he was like, oh, I'm about to eat my wife.

00:28:39
Like, what the heck? He was horrified and he saw that

00:28:43
the the saint's little icon and he was like, I see what happened

00:28:50
here. Your mom wanted to pray for

00:28:53
money so that we can afford things for you guys.

00:28:55
And then you did this. So from the deaths of his soul,

00:29:03
he's like, you guys aren't women.

00:29:07
You're not my daughters. You're wolves.

00:29:11
You're she wolves, you guys are evil.

00:29:18
Only she wolves would be capable of doing this.

00:29:24
May God punish you and may you become that wolves.

00:29:32
So right when he said that he starts to hear these howls, like

00:29:38
they were trying to howl and they ran into the forest, like

00:29:43
into the, the Monta into the the mountains.

00:29:47
And they say that now they live as beasts out into the in the

00:29:53
wild. I remember I read the story

00:29:58
back, not this particular one, but like I read 1 in Scary

00:30:02
Stories to Tell in the dark. There's a story on this feral

00:30:07
girl and it creeped me out 'cause the drawing was like she

00:30:10
was kind of like with long hair and like kind of seemed like a

00:30:12
wolf. The wolf girl I think was the

00:30:14
name of the story. That was really creepy.

00:30:17
So thinking about this, I'm like, I've kind of heard, I

00:30:21
don't know if you've ever heard of Now Wallace, we can, we can

00:30:23
keep going on all this stuff. We can keep you.

00:30:24
There's so much material stuff to to talk about when it comes

00:30:28
to these legends, especially in Mexico.

00:30:32
And now Wallace are like spirits that can goodness, they can.

00:30:43
There are people that can turn into not, sorry, not spirit.

00:30:47
They're people that turn into animals.

00:30:50
So it's a whole, it's a whole thing.

00:30:53
It's very interesting. Anyway, there's this other one,

00:30:58
the creatures of the water. So this other short story in

00:31:02
Antigua, also in the state of Jalisco, they say that there's

00:31:05
this monster, the river monster in Monstro Del Rio, and it's

00:31:10
this giant serpent has supposedly lives in this cave

00:31:13
system that's underground. And these are like common things

00:31:16
to talk about caves under, like underground in the water,

00:31:20
because it's actually why all of these cenotes and all these

00:31:23
other areas like you've seen probably in pictures where like

00:31:26
you go into caves and there's water there.

00:31:28
They say that that was kind of like the entrance to the

00:31:30
underworld. All right, So there's a there's

00:31:33
a very significant place, like the very strong, like culturally

00:31:38
significant, spiritually significant places.

00:31:41
So they say that there though there is a monster and they say

00:31:46
that there is, it's so huge that when they, when people got

00:31:51
together to go to Mass, they actually feel like the floor of

00:31:56
the church shake whenever there is, you know, consecration.

00:32:02
It's like the, the, the sign that the beast is like, don't do

00:32:06
that. And it's kind of like rumbles.

00:32:09
That's creepy, really freaky stuff.

00:32:13
And then there's this other place in Mescala where they say

00:32:16
it's near Lake Chapala where kids speak about the thiruquat

00:32:19
theme, which is 2 kids actually saw this creature that kind of

00:32:23
looked like a cat, completely black with a long thick tail and

00:32:27
eyes that shine in the dark. And this creature is supposedly

00:32:31
comes out to eat people. So the Thirukkada is not really

00:32:35
a beast necessarily, but because it doesn't really chase you or

00:32:42
scare you, it just kind of attacks.

00:32:44
It jumps at your neck and you're dead and like that's it.

00:32:46
This is how people say and they blame on disappearances is

00:32:49
because all the Thirukada got you.

00:32:53
So what other creatures have you heard of like that?

00:32:58
Right now, what I'm trying to where I'm going here is that

00:33:01
there's a lot of stories that are are varied, right, And they

00:33:05
have their own either true accounts, right?

00:33:09
Somebody that you know, has has seen this creature out there.

00:33:14
But how do we start to perceive these things?

00:33:16
How we even accept them as real is because that's your cousin

00:33:20
goes out in the fields and they see this thing out there and

00:33:24
you're like, did you really see that?

00:33:26
Like notice that, right? Like we might think like, oh,

00:33:28
did you like want to question it?

00:33:29
But when you've heard these legends and these stories

00:33:31
already and you accept them as like, this is scary and this is

00:33:35
true. Then when somebody tells you

00:33:38
something like that, you're like, I know what you saw.

00:33:41
Somebody else did this, saw this thing too.

00:33:44
And then we start connecting it all the way down to like the

00:33:47
very origins of story, you know, when this start.

00:33:52
And I think that's the coolest thing is people like it has

00:33:54
crossed the mouths, has gotten out of the mouths of people who

00:33:59
once lived. And yet we're still remembering

00:34:02
these stories. I was asked a long time ago

00:34:05
about, you know, if if there's anything that I sense is like

00:34:08
purpose or something that I know I really like and what I would

00:34:13
call like the purpose of me of my life and stuff.

00:34:15
And I thought like, maybe not necessarily for me, but I know

00:34:19
that I feel this really strong sense of maintaining stories

00:34:24
alive. So, you know, when you walk by

00:34:27
cemeteries, you see a bunch of tombstones, right?

00:34:31
And that's all we see. But underneath those, those

00:34:34
people had 1 billion ideas. Some of them came out, they

00:34:40
shared them, they told them, showed them to the world.

00:34:44
Others are right there with them.

00:34:48
And that it doesn't really, I can't express that that itch to

00:34:54
try to get these stories out because it's they're going to

00:34:57
die with us. So while we're here, let's talk

00:35:01
about them or let's keep them alive.

00:35:03
Look how I find these stories so beautiful.

00:35:05
They're so cool. Speaking of that, now we're

00:35:08
going to jump into some of the stories that were submitted.

00:35:10
And thanks so much for for those of you who submitted stories

00:35:13
still Edwin at scarystory.com, if you have anything you want to

00:35:16
share with me so we can keep going over all this stuff in in

00:35:20
the upcoming episodes. This one's from Decal, says

00:35:24
Edwin. I want to partake in the

00:35:26
Hispanic heritage stories, but I don't really have an urban

00:35:29
legend type story that I can think of.

00:35:31
However, that I did want to mention that my Puerto Rican

00:35:35
grandmother was in an espiritista, a medium.

00:35:40
I recall my mother telling me so casually that her mom was a

00:35:43
medium, that they would have these seances or whatever you

00:35:46
call these meetings of a huge group of Puerto Rican ladies

00:35:49
sitting around the room or a table.

00:35:52
And my abuelita was ahead, the one wearing the white robe.

00:35:57
It was crazy to me because I hated going to my grandma's

00:35:59
house. It didn't feel right to me.

00:36:02
It's like there was some kind of heaviness there.

00:36:06
My uncle, so my grandma's son lived in the house because he

00:36:09
came back from Vietnam, a schizophrenic supposedly because

00:36:13
he made mention so many times of other people, entities, I

00:36:18
believe being in his room or living in that house in the

00:36:21
basement. So I thought this is not like a

00:36:24
legend type story, but it did scare me a lot to think my

00:36:28
grandma basically allowed herself to be inhabited by

00:36:31
spirits, demons, beings, ghost or whatever.

00:36:35
And my mom witnessed these meetings.

00:36:37
In fact, all these ladies would tell my mom how they could see

00:36:41
that she had the gift, but my mom did not follow that route

00:36:46
and I'm almost sure she had some type of gift because I could

00:36:49
never put anything past her. And she's like the FBI figuring

00:36:52
stuff out left and right and seeing things other people

00:36:55
don't. As far as like intuition, myself

00:36:58
and my daughter both have a little bit of that, but we have

00:37:01
dreams that come true and stuff like that.

00:37:03
So maybe it is something that runs in the family.

00:37:08
And then she shares a little bit of the like some data with about

00:37:13
the Espiritistas El Espiritismo, which is this this Puerto Rican

00:37:18
culture it has. My grandma and and mom are from

00:37:23
Puerto Rico, but the family did eventually move to Chicagoland

00:37:27
area where I grew up. My grandma continued these

00:37:30
practices here, but by the time I was born she had given that up

00:37:34
and focused more on the church. Now.

00:37:37
Here's some data on it. Since 1960s, Puerto Rican

00:37:40
culture being a medium or espiritista, was central to the

00:37:43
widespread spiritual belief system of Espiritismo, a fusion

00:37:48
of French Spiritism, popular Catholicism, and indigenous and

00:37:51
African folk traditions. This practice was a common way

00:37:55
for Puerto Ricans to connect with the spirit world for

00:37:57
healing, guidance and spiritual development.

00:38:01
That's super interesting to me and I'm going to be looking into

00:38:04
all that stuff. I was actually last year, I was

00:38:08
in Brazil and I learned a lot about all these spirits and

00:38:13
things that they that they have there is completely different

00:38:15
how they view ghosts and how they view the spirit world.

00:38:18
So something that's that's interesting in in in that sense,

00:38:21
right. But Puerto Ricans over on on

00:38:23
this side is is like a whole. It's a new world.

00:38:28
It's like a branch of it. But it's still, how are these

00:38:30
things so connected? It's very, very interesting.

00:38:35
And then obviously, here's the tease.

00:38:38
My grandmother father's side was a Cillian.

00:38:40
So I will save her stories for another time.

00:38:42
Hers had a lot to do with dreams and spiritual or demonic

00:38:45
presences. I hope you share that story too.

00:38:47
But thanks so much for this one decal.

00:38:49
And thank you so much for always following, following the the

00:38:52
show and for, for listening. And Adrian says, I initially

00:38:58
started listening to you from True Scary Story by accident at

00:39:01
night to go to sleep because of your voice.

00:39:04
But then I started looking for you and found you on Paranormal

00:39:06
Club and I never missed an episode.

00:39:09
Thanks for that. Yeah, actually, I'm going to, I

00:39:12
should start a service where I just lull people to sleep.

00:39:14
I think that might be a, a cool people do that.

00:39:17
There's podcasts that just send you to sleep.

00:39:19
I do that with audiobooks. I, I, I'm like 3 hours in and

00:39:21
I'm just like, well, what? And I have to go back like 2 1/2

00:39:24
hours. I also watched Bob's Burgers

00:39:27
replays. I think just watch the pilot

00:39:30
episode and I I'm out in like 8 minutes.

00:39:33
But anyway, continues. I wanted to tell you my story.

00:39:38
As a kid, I always saw spirit. My mom used to tell me that I

00:39:42
just had an active imagination. Fast forward to May 1999, I was

00:39:47
16. I had a dream, a vision of my

00:39:50
grandmother, my grandfather's funeral.

00:39:52
He was still alive at this point.

00:39:55
My grandfather was in his casket and my family was crying.

00:39:58
I looked to my right at the door and I saw a tall man that was

00:40:02
dark looking at me. He stood out because I didn't

00:40:05
remember seeing him standing there before.

00:40:08
In the front row is my granny, mom, 2 uncles, and my aunt all

00:40:14
seemed not to see him. I looked around to see if anyone

00:40:17
else sees him and no one does. So I looked back forward just in

00:40:21
time to see my grandmother turning her head back forward.

00:40:24
I woke up and ran to my mom's room crying and told her my

00:40:27
dream. Days later my mother had to

00:40:31
explain my dream to my granny said she said and she said hmm.

00:40:35
November 1999 my grandfather passed.

00:40:38
My mother started calling me the death seeker 'cause I could

00:40:41
always have dreams of certain family members passing before

00:40:44
they pass. I Fast forward to early 2013, my

00:40:48
granny finds out that she has cancer and she decided not to

00:40:51
let the family know until the birthday of April 2013 for she

00:40:56
passed July 2013. My granny told me that she knew

00:40:59
my grandfather was going to pass and confirm that she was in my

00:41:02
dream. She told me that she saw the

00:41:04
tall dark man that he was explaining to her that his time

00:41:08
was coming and other things that she did not tell me.

00:41:11
She said that she also advised her that I have the gift that I

00:41:14
was looking at him. She turned to look to let me

00:41:18
know to not be scared, but I wasn't looking.

00:41:22
That shocked me because I never knew she was present in my

00:41:25
dream. Thanks for letting me share my

00:41:27
story. Thanks so much for sharing that.

00:41:31
Like this is a it's a very personal story.

00:41:34
And sometimes we do get those types of messaging.

00:41:38
So this is, you know, we, we get that we receive messages from

00:41:42
the other side or we, we receive a little hint.

00:41:45
They need to warn us. You know, this is coming heads

00:41:47
up showing us that we're going to be fine, like everything's

00:41:52
going to be OK. This is going to be a little bit

00:41:54
rough for a little bit. And, you know, death is a very

00:41:57
interesting thing to me to think about because it's it's

00:42:01
inevitable. It's coming.

00:42:02
Everybody knows it. And yet it's so hard, right?

00:42:07
Like it's like this is like a piece of you just kind of leaves

00:42:10
and you're bound to go the rest of your life without it.

00:42:16
So it's pretty sad. It's it's sad to to think of it

00:42:20
like that. But also, you know, it's hard to

00:42:23
think of like, oh, we'll be grateful for what happened.

00:42:25
But you know, when people go through stuff like this is pain,

00:42:28
all we see is all we feel is pain.

00:42:29
Like it's not anything like, oh, we could just get over in time.

00:42:32
They say, oh, it heals it. It doesn't really heal.

00:42:34
It just kind of makes it manageable, right.

00:42:37
So it's pretty, it's pretty, pretty rough.

00:42:40
But thanks a lot for sharing, for sharing your story.

00:42:43
All right, so it's time for some of our rapid fire comments that

00:42:46
were received. Received a bunch, but they're

00:42:48
short, so we're going to go straight into it.

00:42:50
Here we go from resin Dis Hay says when my sister was about 12

00:42:55
years old, she went to visit my dad's family in Mexico with her

00:42:58
aunt at night. She and her aunt were walking

00:43:01
from my dad's house to my grandmother's house which is

00:43:03
about 5 minutes away, around the corner and up a hill.

00:43:07
After they turned the corner up at the top of the hill where my

00:43:10
grandmother's house is was one street light and right under it

00:43:15
was a huge black dog. It would had glowing red eyes

00:43:20
staring right at them. My aunt told my sister to slowly

00:43:24
bend down, grab a rock and get ready to throw it if needed.

00:43:29
They slowly made their way up the hill and into the house.

00:43:34
The dog only kept watching them but never ran at them or lunged.

00:43:38
When they got inside, they quickly locked the door and

00:43:40
found the entire family locked inside the kitchen, praying.

00:43:45
Our grandmother told them someone earlier had seen the

00:43:50
devil outside. Until the story continues.

00:43:55
When my dad was young in Queretaro, Mexico, he and his

00:43:58
friends went up a mountain at night to try to see the brujas.

00:44:02
There are two mountains where you can often see what looks

00:44:04
like fireballs jumping back and forth between them like fleas

00:44:08
and like those are brujas. That night as they were going

00:44:12
home down the mountain, they noticed that there was a Turkey

00:44:14
following them. Driver had a gun with him and he

00:44:18
tried to shoot at it. As they drove away, they didn't

00:44:21
see if the Turkey got shot or not and kept on their way.

00:44:25
A few minutes later they hear a loud thud in the bed of the

00:44:29
truck. They looked there was a Turkey.

00:44:33
The driver tried to shoot it again, but the gun was jammed.

00:44:37
They drove in zigzags to try and knock the Turkey out to no

00:44:40
avail. And all of a sudden the truck's

00:44:42
front wheel went down in a hole on the road that wasn't there

00:44:46
earlier. They didn't notice it earlier in

00:44:49
the day when they went up the mountain.

00:44:51
The Turkey had disappeared and they came up with a plan to get

00:44:55
the wheel out and they got it out.

00:44:59
They speed home to the driver's house and they all agree that no

00:45:01
one wanted to go home alone that night.

00:45:04
So they they all huddled in one room and slept until morning.

00:45:11
Jerry says Mayabuelito's house in Mexico has a well, and that

00:45:15
well allegedly has gold centenarios that date back to

00:45:19
the revolution. Those are like coins.

00:45:22
Many people have died trying to get to the centenarios and their

00:45:25
spirits linger. And many people claim to have

00:45:27
seen those people around the house.

00:45:31
Crazy Skeleton 666 says. My mom, my younger brother,

00:45:35
younger sister and myself have all seen that same spirit.

00:45:40
He has a long trench coat with a collar flicked up so you can see

00:45:43
his face and a cowboy hat. Not scary, he's just chill.

00:45:47
Just sort of just sort of watch watches us, but definitely

00:45:51
weird, the lithe cleaver says. My mom and all my family have

00:45:58
heard her great grandpa make his rounds around the house and

00:46:01
finally sit in his rocking chair the night after he had his wake.

00:46:09
Che bruising cowboy boots, says My mom crossed paths with

00:46:14
Lyonna, but she managed to run. She was sick for days, hanging

00:46:18
on to life by a thread. Luckily she recovered.

00:46:26
It's your girl, Liz says. My mom told me one time as she

00:46:29
was younger, my grandma was hanging up clothes outside and

00:46:32
she saw a big huge black bird. My mom saw my grandma getting

00:46:37
attacked by this huge bird and they said that it was a lady

00:46:40
that liked my grandpa and did something to my grandma.

00:46:46
After that attack, my grandma's face was bleeding and was left

00:46:49
with a lot of scars in her face, E6J18 says.

00:46:56
My Swaggera was chased by the devil.

00:46:59
She's also seen the Santa Muerte.

00:47:00
When she was a kid, someone called her by her name right by

00:47:04
her ear. As she was going to sleep, my

00:47:06
mom saw a black Angel hovering my newborn sister.

00:47:12
And there's a lot more. My Swaggera thought she would

00:47:15
could make like an hour or so podcast of all the stuff that

00:47:17
she's been through, May says. My uncle has a ranch with a lot

00:47:23
of land, and next to the main house there is a well.

00:47:27
The room where I used to sleep had a huge window from where you

00:47:29
could see the well. He used to say that you could

00:47:34
hear someone in the night pulling water from it.

00:47:39
Didi says. In Guatemala, my aunt saw the

00:47:41
devil following her one night. She was coming home from a

00:47:45
party. In those times, the streets were

00:47:47
quiet. There was a bunch of trees.

00:47:53
There's a comment that I left on my own post.

00:47:56
Not not ashamed, Edwin Coe says. My aunt and my 3 cousins lived

00:48:02
in a small house in the Sonoran Desert in Mexico when this

00:48:05
happened. They were kind of winding down

00:48:07
for the night on their phones or whatever when suddenly the

00:48:10
youngest 1A teen at the time noticed the white ball that was

00:48:14
floating down the hallway and into his room, getting lost

00:48:17
under the bed. Her older sister, the middle

00:48:20
child, got up and asked him if he had seen that same thing and

00:48:24
he said yeah. So they called up the eldest

00:48:26
sibling and looked everywhere but couldn't find anything

00:48:29
resembling that ball. They all described it as a type

00:48:32
of foam or sponge, white, and that it floated.

00:48:36
My aunt has also witnessed, also witnessed it and no one can

00:48:40
explain what it was or what it could have been.

00:48:42
As an aside, their home is a block away from the cemetery,

00:48:46
and the area nearby behind the development has been known to be

00:48:49
the site of unidentified bodies being found there.

00:48:53
Urkelgru says Primos in Mexico say at night that they can hear

00:48:58
cadenas being dragged. The whole Cadenas thing was very

00:49:02
interesting to me because I mentioned the story recently on,

00:49:06
on, on I think on Instagram. And it was about my parents and

00:49:10
how they used to live in the northern part of Sonora Nogales.

00:49:16
And they when they were, they were just making it where they

00:49:19
were young, right? And they were, they used to say

00:49:24
that around the place where they lived, they could hear this pig

00:49:30
that was with a saddle and it would just like kind of you

00:49:33
could hear its metal clinging like as it was going down.

00:49:37
Like imagine a pig with a saddle going up and down the streets

00:49:42
and like the neighbors would say they could they could hear it

00:49:45
really interesting. See how all these stories

00:49:47
trigger something like I remember something about them.

00:49:49
But I'm interested in knowing if you have any stories that you

00:49:53
were you thought of what we were explaining all these and while

00:49:55
people were suggesting or commenting their own their own

00:49:58
stories. But there's obviously a whole

00:50:02
lot more that we can go into as far as like folk tales and

00:50:05
legends. So there's anything in

00:50:06
particular that you want to hear or you're curious about?

00:50:09
I heard also heard like the stories of like Laorona is a

00:50:12
very, very famous one. But there's a very deep tie or

00:50:16
historical story. There's a historical story,

00:50:20
There's a very deep tie with what Laorona means and theories

00:50:26
and works on it. If you're interested in finding

00:50:28
out more about that or anything else now, Wallace or other

00:50:33
legends that I can help with or I can help help your research,

00:50:39
let me know so that we can make an episode out of it.

00:50:42
And from our last episode, the When Urban Legends Become Real,

00:50:47
let's go through some of the comments that we got done there.

00:50:49
Right. So these are, yeah, we're kind

00:50:52
of few pretty cool, Blanca says. I live in San Antonio.

00:50:56
We've been at the railroad tracks.

00:50:57
Nothing ever happened. Look up the donkey lady story.

00:50:59
OK, I'm kind of worried about the donkey lady looking that up,

00:51:02
but I will. And yes, I've heard that some

00:51:06
people go and actually they fixed that road.

00:51:09
Might have been because of that. I don't know, Nina Simone says.

00:51:12
I've seen the the spitting of the alcohol on people.

00:51:15
I've even experienced it. I think even maybe the leaves or

00:51:18
whatever it is done as well. It was high energy.

00:51:20
And afterwards I slept. Yeah.

00:51:22
You know what we're talking here about the Lempias, right?

00:51:25
The cleansing, spiritual cleansing.

00:51:27
And I've seen this and I've seen people get really, like, they

00:51:30
say that they get really relaxed after that.

00:51:33
So there has to be something that works, right?

00:51:36
Like, it's, I mean, there's a reason why people keep doing it.

00:51:39
I don't know. Natalia says.

00:51:43
Thank you for all your podcasts. You're all great.

00:51:45
When possible, can you do an episode about scary pet stories?

00:51:48
That's a good one. That's a good one.

00:51:50
Pet Stories. Oh, that's good.

00:51:53
I'm gonna I just added it to my to my list.

00:51:56
Thanks a lot for for that. Leslie 010 says hi.

00:52:00
You started listening to your podcast and it's so interesting.

00:52:02
I think you should cover some now wild stories.

00:52:04
I should have looked at this. OK, let's do it.

00:52:07
Let's do it now what? I think this is a good one and

00:52:09
it fits our topics. Adriana says another great

00:52:13
episode, going back to the last episode on Subliminal Messages.

00:52:16
I had to take a break because for some reason hearing music

00:52:18
backwards has always scared the crap out of me.

00:52:21
I've always associated with evil.

00:52:23
Oh, and imagine looking through those things too.

00:52:25
Like I was. Yeah, it creeps me out.

00:52:27
It creeps me out. But I was looking through these

00:52:29
songs, like playing the whole song sometimes to see if I hear

00:52:33
anything weird. To kind of disprove this.

00:52:35
It'd be like, oh, well, I also heard this.

00:52:37
I also heard this. But man, it, it got me.

00:52:42
Like, it got me dizzy. Like just listening to that,

00:52:44
it's not natural. M4 Diaz says hi.

00:52:49
So I really interested in this type of stuff.

00:52:51
My dog died 4 years ago and I kept seeing a dog figure in my

00:52:53
house multiple times. So I think it could be her my it

00:52:59
might happen, it might happen That's really scary but also

00:53:05
might be kind of comforting, right?

00:53:06
I don't know, it depends on how you see it.

00:53:10
BH Murdoch says, I don't know what you're talking about my is,

00:53:14
but about my aunt always told me of a story where she used to

00:53:17
live in Georgia about a mother whose husband paid more

00:53:20
attention to a child. So she added the baby to the

00:53:23
husband's lunch one day. I also have a gravity hill in

00:53:28
new, new North Carolina, North Carolina.

00:53:32
Sorry, I was trying to see and see what it what it was not

00:53:35
where I live. I've done it.

00:53:38
It's a crazy feeling. Last thing, you should research

00:53:40
Lydia's Bridge in Jamestown, NC for the Horror Stories podcast.

00:53:44
Such a big deal they had to shut down the road to stop people

00:53:47
from going to it. All right, all right, OK.

00:53:52
We got some really good ideas here.

00:53:53
Yoda here also says we grew up with Resurrection Mary, who's

00:53:57
who's in Resurrection Cemetery in Justice, IL.

00:53:59
You should check it out. OK, this is super cool.

00:54:04
Super, super cool. All right, thanks so much for

00:54:06
the comments and for the comments too on, on on our

00:54:09
socials. Those are super cool, super

00:54:11
helpful too, to like add to this kind of thing.

00:54:14
So if this triggered any, any thoughts in here, any fears that

00:54:18
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00:54:51
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00:54:54
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00:54:57
Hispanic voices out there in the United States and around the

00:55:00
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00:55:02
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00:55:04
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00:55:08
And you can tell I'm super interested in stories from all

00:55:11
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00:55:14
haven't covered yet, anything that you feel I should learn

00:55:17
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00:55:20
That's all for now. Thank you so much for listening

00:55:23
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00:55:26
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