The “Wax Figure” That Was Actually a Dead Man

The “Wax Figure” That Was Actually a Dead Man

In this creepy real story, you'll learn about Elmer J. McCurdy. A failed criminal who, upon his lonely death, was mistaken for a wax figure and displayed all over the United States. It was until a bizarre incident that it was discovered that this figure was actually made up of bone and human tissue.

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There was this urban legend that I heard about that happened in

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Long Beach, CA. The legend was that in one of

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these old amusement rides at the Pike, this bride is one of

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those. You get into a little cart, you

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circle around in kind of a railroad track getting freaked

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out by figures, clowns, chopped off hands, things hanging from

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the ceiling, all with you know, you get smoke and purple lights

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and the whole deal crazy noises, everything.

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If if you're like sensitive to noise and a bunch of things

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happening. I was this is this is what that

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was basically. And as you were going through

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there a minute and a half later, 2 minutes, a ride will be over,

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but you would have passed an actual corpse along the way.

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Now I looked into it and it didn't take me long to find out

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that this was a real case. Many stories I've been made on

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this, on this subject, but I had never heard of it.

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This is the story of Elmer McCurdy, a man who ended up

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making money not for himself but for others after he had died,

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and during his lifetime he lived pretty much as a failed

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criminal. It's a sad story, but it's

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creepy because it makes you think that all these figures

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that you look at, at these wax museums and those field trips

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that you go to as a kid, maybe mannequins at a mall might be

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real ready. My name is Edwin, and this is

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Paranormal Club. Elmer McCurdy was born in 1880,

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and he was born to this young woman.

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She was 17 years old, unmarried and she was ashamed.

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She didn't want to have a kid that young and there was a

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social stigma with it. So she pretty much gave it to

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what would be his aunts and uncles like Elmer's aunt and

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uncle to raise. Turns out that this is a very

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common thing. I've actually found out as I'm

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I'm kind of researching into my family tree and some of people

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that I know in their family trees to give people to family

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members to raise. Like ask around.

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You might hear it's very, it was very common.

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But anyway, he was growing up, everything was fine.

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And then they finally give him the news like, hey, you know

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what? We're not really your parents.

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You're adopted. And he's just like, he's not

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taking it very well. He ends up being rebellious as a

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teenager. He ends up drinking.

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He doesn't take it well at all. He kind of starts getting his

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life together as the years go on and he decides to join the Army.

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And now it's 19 O7. He's in there during the

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service. He leaves at, you know, 1910,

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three years later. But he learns his very specific

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skill, which is how to use nitroglycerin as an explosive.

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What can one do with that knowledge?

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He's going to find something and it's to become a criminal, steal

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money. This is how he's going to make a

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living in 1911. He starts robbing banks and it

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doesn't work very well. Like he's not good at it at all.

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He actually one of the one of the robberies was from a train

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and he convinced somebody to join with to join him.

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He had heard that the Iron Mountain, Missouri Pacific train

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was carrying $4000 in it. Now that's a lot of money back

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then. Turns out he used too much

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nitroglycerin, exploded the heck out of that safe, so much that

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he burned the bills and the silver coins melted into the

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safe itself. Fortunately, he ended up leaving

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with anywhere from life. Like maybe like around 400

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bucks. Not too bad, not good though.

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You missed out. You what got 10%?

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Is it 10% of of the total? What a miss.

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Anyway, now in September 1911, he now wants to steal from this

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bank like he wants to go into the bank, steal from the vault

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and take a bunch of money. This is a bank, right?

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He spends 2 hours hammering away at the brick of the wall of the

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of the bank. He makes it into the vault, sets

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the nitroglycerin, blows off the door of the vault, destroys,

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almost destroys the whole bank. But inside this the the safe

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that was inside was completely sealed shut.

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The money was not coming with him freaking out.

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He goes and grabs some like loose change that was on some

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trades as they're counting money and stuff.

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It totalled around $150.00 in coins.

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Dang it, right? You kind of feel bad for him.

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Like it's, it's funny, he's a criminal.

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He's not supposed to steal money.

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But sometimes you kind of cheer on people like this.

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I don't have this bad habit when I'm seeing police car chases.

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I don't know, like I want him to stop.

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He's I'm rooting for the for the police in those cases, but also

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like it's unsafe. I guess not something I should

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watch, but it's like a natural thing where we just be like, oh,

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what's going to happen at the end?

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You kind of root for the for the car to escape every once in a

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while. I don't know.

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I don't know if you do that, I should probably stop watching

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police car chases anyway. Now in October of 1911, this is

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quick. This is a month later, he finds

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out that this train is carrying 400, $1000 as a payment to the

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Osage Nation. So McCurdy grabs another

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partner. He's like, hey, we're going to

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do this. They go, actually, it was

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several people that were accomplices.

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And instead of stopping that train, they stop a passenger

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train. So they end up doing a typical

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robbery. All right, give me your stuff.

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They people had no phones and people didn't carry that much

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cash. They ended up leaving with 46

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dollars, two things of whiskey, a revolver, a coat and the

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conductor's watch. He was disappointing people left

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and right, and he ended up going to a ranch.

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He was he he was like, I, I try to convince all these people to

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do that. We didn't even take that much

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money. He grabs some whiskey, goes and

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hides out. And this is now in Bartlesville.

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OK. By this time he was desperate.

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He was an alcoholic. He was not had not doing a good.

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He's not doing good. He had tuberculosis, pneumonia.

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And October 7th, 3, deputy sheriff's get a word where he is

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and they decide to go after him. They start a shootout.

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Boom, boom, boom. Elmer's gone.

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He dies. He dies with a gunshot wound to

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the chest that ended his his his career, his failed career as a

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criminal. But his new one was about to

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begin. Joseph Johnson was the man, the

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undertaker who took Elmer's body.

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And he started, you know, processing it and embalming it.

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But nobody came to pick him up. Like no family member ever said,

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hey, let's go give him burial. Nothing now he didn't want to

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lose out an opportunity to make money.

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So he he was already embalmed and with this other really

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interesting process, it was arsenic based and the

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preservative was for long term preservation.

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So he uses he was like, you know what, he's going to look the

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same for a while. I'm going to make some money off

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of them. So he involved them standing

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like standing up, dressed them up and said, Hey, whoever wants

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to see this corpse, like of a, of a bandit, of a real life

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bandit. I think they branded him as, Oh

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yeah, the bandit who wouldn't give up five cents a nickel come

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and see him. And people did.

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People went to see him. He made some money.

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Cool. It was cool.

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And if he knows it was, it was really weird and bizarre that

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they were saying, you know, to give your payment, put the

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nickel in his mouth. It's weird, So weird, weird

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times to think about. Not long after that, the

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undertaker was finally, finally found his opportunity to sell.

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Now, the reason why he didn't want to just bury the body is

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because, hey, you know, embalming stuff is expensive.

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He wants to get paid for it. And he always kind of waits for

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people to come by and pick him up and take him, you know, to

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bid their proper burial site. This time, it wasn't happening

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until these two men show up and they're like, their names are

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James and Charles Patterson. They were like, hey, we are his

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brothers and we want to bury the body, so give them to us.

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The guy was like, OK, we'll pay me.

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Pay up. And yeah, you can have them.

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So they did. They they bought them.

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And The thing is that they weren't, they weren't his

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brothers. They were actually carnival

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promoters. Like, you know, those traveling

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carnivals that, you know, they come here, come here and see

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these freaks of nature kind of like that they took him.

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And thus began Elmer's career as a performer, I guess, who

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wouldn't move. So now these two guys have him

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and they use him as another prop and they, they call him the

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outlaw who would never be captured alive.

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And he just went around places being featured around there.

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I I'm saying like places all around the US, He's just

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traveling around and people paying to see him.

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It's an interesting investment. Then he ended up in 1922, ended

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up in the Museum of Crime. You know, the Museum of Crime.

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He ended up there because this guy, Louis Sani, acquired the

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body after the carnival defaulted on this loan.

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So, you know, the carnivals were always trying to cut costs.

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So that's why they look all cheap and they were trying to

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make money off of literally everything.

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Well, they have this $500 loan. The guy, they defaulted.

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So he was like, OK, well, you know, you need to give me some

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stuff. And now Mccurdy's corpse was now

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exhibited in the Museum of Crime.

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Basically, along there were these other wax figures of other

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people, other criminals that, you know, they were actual wax

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figures, except this one was real.

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That's where the confusion I think really started because

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they people were starting to believe that this was not really

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a corpse, but an actual waxy year.

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Sometimes you get people who are embalmers and people who deal

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with the dead here that listen to Paranormal Club.

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So I here's a question because this is what I found, but there

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was some some questions about it.

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When people died and they were embalmed in these old processes,

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they say that there's their faces turn really shiny and they

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kind of ended up getting waxy. I don't know how true that is.

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And could you actually confuse a wax figure with one of these

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real corpses? Because this is what people are

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doing. In 1933, the body was acquired

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by a director, Dwayne Esper, to promote his movie Narcotic.

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I was placed under these lobbies and they were they were calling

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him a dead dope friend, basically a fiend, A fiend.

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Sorry, dead dope fiend, basically saying, hey, if you do

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drugs, this is how you're going to end up, so don't do it.

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People didn't know that this is this is a real corpse they're

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talking about and is they're making fun of him, basically not

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making fun of him, but using it like that because you know, you

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look pretty like dead. I don't know.

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That's my dead face. I mean, if you're watching, I

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don't know if you're listening, but it's, it's, it's it's

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stretched out waxy skin. You can still kind of see the

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teeth. It was bizarre.

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I've seen some pictures if you, if you want, have the time and,

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and want to look at them. He finds some pictures of, of

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Elmer. But anyway.

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Esper claimed that the body's shriveled, mummified skin was

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proof of drug abuse from a film prop.

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He went to an actual fixture at an amusement park ride.

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Now here's how they switch hands.

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In 1949, the previous owner of this thing about, you know, the

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the Museum of crime, they placed the body in in a Los Angeles

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warehouse for almost 20 years. And then in 1964, they actually

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loaned them out to this movie. I'd never seen it.

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It's called She Freak premier, maybe as an extra on there. 1968

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Sunny Sun sold the corpse to Spooney Singh, the owner of the

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Hollywood Wax Museum. Now that's the place that really

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creeps me out. Imagine working there at night,

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having to dust all those figures on.

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That's where all these wax figures would reorient.

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Is this what they call them? You know, like when they talk

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about mannequins moving, they don't say the mannequin moved.

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They see the mannequin reoriented.

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It's actually how they describe subtle movements of mannequins.

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Anyway, the body during an exhibit in Mount Rushmore, it

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was kind of damaged from this windstorm and it lost certain

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tips of the body, like the tips of the ears, fingers, toes.

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I think it was falling apart. But seeing the owner of the

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Hollywood Wax Museum was like, you know what?

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This thing is just not real enough.

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I don't want it. Imagine that like a wax museum

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considering a real life corpse, not real enough.

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But the wax figures, the, the wax figures are wax fingers.

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The wax figures are. So he sold it to Ed Lear, part

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owner of the Pike, an amusement zone in Long Beach, CA.

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Now Mccurdy's corpse was then hung from the gallows in this in

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this scene, and it was called Laugh in the Dark Fun House

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ride. Now Laugh in the Dark, from what

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I've found. And if we have people who know

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about this, please let me know about it.

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It's it wasn't just one thing. It was, it was kind of like how

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we describe a clubhouse or how we describe AI don't know a

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right. Like it was a, a category of a

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thing. It wasn't the name of the place

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necessarily, but it had the name on there.

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Laugh in the dark. Now laugh in the dark.

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If you go to laughinthedark.com, actually, you're going to find

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some history of these old carts and you're going to see exactly

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what I mean. These were really creepy rides.

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The cart itself, the carts like where you get in and, and you

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know, go around the, the amusement thing was patented and

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the owners of the people who actually made this stuff work

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were making a lot of money because they ended up using it

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as, you know, places where all these people wanted rides in

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their in their locations for entertainment purposes, right?

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You buy the thing once and you keep making money of it.

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For people who want to get freaked out, go in.

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Sadly, it wasn't a a very creepy thing.

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I mean, back then, I guess people maybe had a different bar

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for what's creepy, I don't know. But it wasn't a very eerie

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scene. It was just loud, chaotic

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flashing lights, creepy things that you would go through and

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then that's it. It would be over.

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But anyway, this website left@thedark.com has a lot of

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details on it, like too many details.

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I wonder like who was into this because it it's an interesting

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part of history. So if you're into amusement park

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right and stuff, that's something to look into.

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But anyway, it was hung from the gallows and people were going

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past them every day getting scared, not knowing that this

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was a real corpse that they were going through, like going to

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see. It was until December 8th, 1976,

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this kind of modern era kind of they're making the television

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series The $6 million Man. And this episode is called

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Carnival of Spies. And in that episode they use the

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set, you know, for, for the for that episode to be the Pike

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area, specifically that laugh in the dark, creepy amusement park.

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The film director, one of them, you know, one of the camera

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people, they were like, I don't really like that problem.

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I'm going to move it a little bit, goes up to it, tries to

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twist it into place a little bit and the arm breaks off.

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Part of it does anyway. And inside you clearly see the

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human bone, actual skin tissue and tissue from like the inside

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of a person. The police are called, episodes

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put on hold for a little bit and they find that this prop was a

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real life human corpse, I guess a real dead human corpse.

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It's it just flew like all over the news.

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This was a, a national news story.

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People all over the place were talking about the creepy corpse

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that was in this amusement park ride and all, all the urban

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legends that that developed after it were kind of saying,

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you know what, all along people were thinking that this was they

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were going through a real life corpse thing.

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But you know, certain stories like this, you get the urban

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legend after the breakout of the story.

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So people had no idea that this was real until, you know, they

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broke off the arm. Now I wonder what about the tips

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of the ears and toes and fingers?

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Like, would you, you can't tell that there's bone in there.

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I guess you can't. I wouldn't be able to tell.

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I feel I don't know. That's that's a tough one.

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But anyway, they started investigating everything and

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like an actual forensics team and they took it to the Los

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Angeles coroner's office and they found out that this was a

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real corpse and that it had that he had died from a gunshot

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wound. They actually found the bullet

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inside of him. So they were able to, to use

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that bullet to kind of time him into when he had died.

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But really the, the thing that really led to finding out who he

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was, because that was going to be another mission, right?

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That they opened up his mouth and they found a coin in there

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and a ticket like a like an admit one kind of ticket.

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It's just a bizarre thing to think about.

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I got chills. I don't know why, but the body

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itself weighed like 50 lbs. Elmer was not a big guy and he

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was kind of waxy on the outside. Obviously the the thing had been

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cleaned and painted over and you know, for a long time and they

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found along with the timing also helped.

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Like it was it was sorted out because of the embalming fluid

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that they ended up using, which was used for a certain period of

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time. So they were to time him because

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of that. And it also showed signs of

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tuberculosis. So they were able to time him

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because of that as well. The penny was from 1924, the one

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that they found in the mouth and the ticket stubs were for Louis

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Sunny's Museum of Crime. So they were to trace him.

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Now, they contacted Dan Sunny, who confirmed the body was

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likely Mccurdy's. Obviously, he had the Museum of

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Crime, so he was familiar with crime.

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Now, this guy was obviously a failed criminal, but he made it

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to the museum. Congrats.

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It's like the Hall of Fame. And then forensic anthropologist

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Clyde Snow used a technique called Super Imposition, where

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they lay different radiographs of the skull.

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And they made they they found that, yeah, he matched the

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photograph of Elmer McCurdy, and it was marked as positive ID.

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So after they identified the man, they convinced the

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officials, actually it was a man called Fred Olds from the Indian

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Territory Posse of Oklahoma Westerns who convinced the

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authorities to let him let Elmer McCurdy be buried in his own

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state. And they said, yeah, they

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actually had a funeral procession April 22nd, 1977, and

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his body was taken to the Boot Hill section of Summit View

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Cemetery in Oklahoma. Now, the gravesite service was

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attended by 300 people. There's a lot of people.

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Imagine that you pass away. Nobody knows.

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Nobody cares that you're dead. People have to like the guy

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starts charging and actually makes a thing out of like prop

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out of you. Nobody's willing to go.

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But to his actual funeral, 300 people go.

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I don't know how I feel about that.

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It's I don't know. But obviously he was a he was

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famous, right? And famous people or famous

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corpses get stolen. So what they did is they put

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them on like they buried him and then put 2 feet of concrete over

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him so that they wouldn't get in there and, and take them and

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that was that. Now interesting because Elmer

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McCurdy became famous after he died.

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A sad story of failed, a failed career as a criminal, which can

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you even call that a career? He actually tried plumbing and

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tried a couple of other things that I mean, he lost his job

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during the, I think it was an economic downturn in 1998 and he

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lost his job. He, he just couldn't get the

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hang of it. But at the root of it all was

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alcoholism. He, he loved to drink and he,

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his life was just falling apart. Could have been that what

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affected him that much was that his parents weren't really his

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biological parents. And when he found out, would you

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have kept that secret from him if you knew that he was going to

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turn out that way? It reminds me a lot of other

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stories, like there was one called the Pasqualita, which is

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I might just tell you a little bit about it now, in case you're

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you're interested. It's a very famous story.

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The legend goes at this woman who owns this dress shop, like a

00:22:47
bridal kind of shop. Her daughter's about to be

00:22:49
married. And just before she gets

00:22:53
married, this spider bites her. She dies.

00:22:57
The mom is so heartbroken that she gets the the daughter

00:23:02
embalmed and she looks so beautiful and realistic that she

00:23:06
sets her up in the in the front window as a mannequin and puts

00:23:11
like, it was really nice dress. And when people walk by it, they

00:23:15
notice strange things about this mannequin.

00:23:18
The hands are real. You can see, you know, the, the,

00:23:21
the marks, like the, the thumbprints or the fingerprint

00:23:24
marks or whatever you call those, those things.

00:23:27
The skin also like you can see do the palm lines and

00:23:31
everything, the nails, the eyes, the the eyelashes, the

00:23:35
expression of this this thing is so realistic that people start

00:23:38
to think that inside of this figure is a real woman.

00:23:43
There are several things that happened throughout the whole I

00:23:47
guess while the story was at its peak.

00:23:49
For example, the shaman walked up and and try to make a ritual

00:23:53
to bring it back to life. People claim that when they were

00:23:57
walking by, the eyes would follow them as they were

00:24:00
walking. Some people were so freaked out,

00:24:02
they would cross the street and go away from it like cross, you

00:24:06
know, cross and then go and then go back to the, the that that

00:24:09
side of the street because it was she was just that creepy.

00:24:12
Now, something that I find really odd about this story of

00:24:14
La Pasqualita and and that mannequin was that there was a

00:24:19
time, a nine month period when she was taken away to supposedly

00:24:24
display her at another place. And when she returned, she

00:24:29
wasn't the same 1. You can look at before and after

00:24:32
pictures. Supposedly she was she went in a

00:24:35
restoration process like so that this she could look the same.

00:24:39
But people are like, this is not the same one.

00:24:42
And what what the some of the theories are that they found out

00:24:45
that, yeah, in fact, this was a real person in there and they

00:24:50
just covered it up and brought another one that tried to make

00:24:52
it look like like the original 1.

00:24:54
Is it real? I don't know.

00:24:56
Might be, I mean thinking about this, you know, stories start

00:25:00
from somewhere and this one about Elmer McCurdy was real.

00:25:06
Do wax figures creep you out? What about mannequins?

00:25:10
Now I know I've mentioned a couple times that way back in

00:25:12
the day, actually it wasn't the way back.

00:25:13
It was in to 20/17/2018 around there.

00:25:17
I was working in this very small town in Ecuador, it's called

00:25:21
Banos. That was Santa.

00:25:23
And the story that has happened there is a whole other whole

00:25:26
other thing. But you know, if we go deep into

00:25:28
that, actually, I have, I have a a thing, if you want to listen

00:25:30
to it, I'm actually, I recorded my own story, so you can go

00:25:33
check it out. But the owner was this French

00:25:38
dude who was like half, he was from Chile with French parents,

00:25:41
something like that. And he had this strange thing.

00:25:47
I mean, French people are a little different, right,

00:25:50
culturally than what we are. And it was, it was different

00:25:54
getting used to it, right? It was, it was a business guy.

00:25:57
He knew what he was doing, but he had this mannequin that he

00:26:02
had up in the storage area and he insisted on dressing him up

00:26:07
like him and putting him in the restaurant to the hostel.

00:26:15
I found this super weird. And I wasn't the only one.

00:26:18
There were people that would go eat at the restaurant and they

00:26:23
wouldn't go near the table where this mannequin was.

00:26:27
It was weird. Plus there's also some really

00:26:29
creepy stories that happened in that restaurant about regarding

00:26:33
the light bulbs. That one time you couldn't find

00:26:36
out what the issue was with these light bulbs.

00:26:39
Turns out they had been unscrewed 1 by 1 and they

00:26:42
wouldn't turn on. It was weird because nobody even

00:26:47
getting into the light bulb was was a mission.

00:26:50
Like why would anybody even bother doing that?

00:26:52
You know, it didn't made no sense, but they were it was

00:26:57
eerie. And then at one point they just

00:26:59
put that mannequin away back into the storage area and it was

00:27:02
forgotten. Was that thing related to any of

00:27:06
the paranormal things that were happening at the time?

00:27:09
It's possible, but they have no way of knowing.

00:27:13
Are there any urban legends around your town that have

00:27:17
turned real that I found out that, hey, you know, what has

00:27:20
actually happened? Like for me, for example, I

00:27:23
always talk about Turnbull Canyon.

00:27:24
Always, always talking about Turnbull Canyon 'cause we used

00:27:26
to go there a lot, you know, as a Turnbull Canyon is this area

00:27:30
around the Whittier and, and city of industry places like in

00:27:33
Southern California. And there were legends there

00:27:36
about people doing satanic rituals, murders and stuff and

00:27:40
ended up looking them up. And what do you know?

00:27:43
Some of these things were real. And they have real newspaper

00:27:46
records, like an airplane crashing there.

00:27:49
Who would have, I don't know. I don't know Who would have, who

00:27:51
would have even. I don't know why this isn't more

00:27:53
famous or why these stories are still considered just urban

00:27:56
legends and not actual facts and real stories, but they are.

00:28:00
So if you know of any in your town, in your city, send them

00:28:03
in, even if you don't know if they're real, 100% real.

00:28:05
I might be able to find something out.

00:28:07
So let's put those researching chops to to use here.

00:28:11
But now it is time for some of the comments.

00:28:14
I think we got some some recent ones here.

00:28:18
Let's go. Oh yeah, we don't we don't have

00:28:20
too many. Yes, we do.

00:28:23
Here we go. Ashley Monique says also from

00:28:26
the previous episode, life after death, scary true listener

00:28:29
encounters. This is the story where we had

00:28:32
two stories in there and this one's about the story called

00:28:36
guardian angels everywhere. The story of how this, my little

00:28:40
boy had a sixth sense and was seeing people who were no longer

00:28:45
alive, Ashley says. Ashley Monique says also, how

00:28:49
did the lady in the church know Raiden's name?

00:28:52
My great great grandma gave us $2.00 bills for Christmas as

00:28:55
well. I still have her last one she

00:28:57
gave me. You know, I thought of this when

00:29:00
I was reading it. In the story, this woman is

00:29:04
standing in the back part of the church and there is another

00:29:09
woman who was taking care of a baby like, you know, just taking

00:29:14
care of him while the parents are resting.

00:29:17
The the mother is, is taking a break basically and they take

00:29:20
him to church. And this after the service, this

00:29:23
old lady walks up to, to, to to this this woman with the baby

00:29:27
and says, hey, your baby Raiden was so well behaved.

00:29:31
I want to give this to him. Gives gives her a $2.00 bill.

00:29:35
Later on, it's discovered that that woman that gave the $2.00

00:29:38
bill was exactly the same woman in a photograph that used to

00:29:44
give that actually really wanted to meet the baby, to meet her

00:29:49
grandson. But yeah, how did how did she

00:29:53
know the name Raiden? I'm hoping it was just one of

00:29:57
those story edits as in like maybe she didn't actually say,

00:30:03
Oh, Raiden was so well behaved, but I mean that's what the the

00:30:06
the thing said. I think in the actual recording

00:30:08
she might have said that, but still creepy.

00:30:12
Very, very, very Francesca says I've been waiting for a new

00:30:16
episode. Yes, and this was on the the

00:30:18
episode. I got a call about an actual

00:30:20
demonic haunting the Malibu case Malabelle, the Malabelle case is

00:30:25
we're still getting comments on the Malabelle case.

00:30:27
This one was a a weird story. I'll tell you that Richard

00:30:31
basically experienced A demonic hunting after fostering this

00:30:37
little girl, a 13 year old girl in his home and it is believed

00:30:42
that this this little girl was had some bizarre intentions,

00:30:47
really evil intentions, Ben Dazzle says.

00:30:50
I've had some crazy experiences, especially after having kids.

00:30:53
One night my 4 month old son woke me up crying and I saw my

00:30:57
wife standing in the doorway just staring at me.

00:31:00
She slowly turned and walked away.

00:31:03
The black silhouette shadow of her just passed.

00:31:06
I was still angry. I didn't need to get out of bed,

00:31:10
the bottle was next to me and I fell fast asleep.

00:31:14
Keep in mind she was upset with me also is why she slept in the

00:31:18
living room couch. Turns out this woman wasn't her

00:31:23
Tammy double Peter says. I just binged midnight mass on

00:31:26
Netflix. I liked it.

00:31:28
You know, I I watched a couple of episodes in the OR the very

00:31:31
first part of it and I stopped. I think I was traveling and

00:31:36
Netflix wouldn't let wouldn't accept my credit card because

00:31:40
the country I was in did not match the country where I got my

00:31:43
card. Kind of a dumb business move,

00:31:47
honestly. Like that would be accepting

00:31:50
credit cards left and right. Well, I guess there's you open

00:31:51
up yourself to fraud and stuff. I guess anyway, I like that it's

00:31:56
by Stephen King. It's midnight mass.

00:31:57
I think I'm going to I'm going to rewatch it.

00:31:59
I like the I like the setup of it that much.

00:32:02
I didn't get too too into it. Just like I'm the little pretty.

00:32:05
I'm the pretty thing that lives in the basement or something

00:32:08
like that or lives in the attic. That was another one that it

00:32:11
didn't finish watching, but the mood of it was really cool.

00:32:16
Ileana Garcia says, love this episode.

00:32:18
These stories are so heartwarming.

00:32:20
Thanks a lot. They were they were they were

00:32:23
really heartwarming. And those are the stories.

00:32:26
Those are the comments that we got on Spotify.

00:32:29
Now let's go to YouTube and then our comment on YouTube from

00:32:34
Gabby. Gabby, thanks a lot for the

00:32:36
comment here. It says after you made that

00:32:38
face, I burst out laughing. And she's talking about the face

00:32:40
of of the scream, the story that V told us on on the last episode

00:32:45
of Paranormal Club. They are sleeping and one of the

00:32:49
makes of a face. And it was, it was funny because

00:32:52
it's like, Oh yeah, there was a, a line.

00:32:54
There was like something might have gotten into you.

00:32:55
It's like, Oh yeah, I I think it was possessed for a minute.

00:32:58
And I was like, no way. But yeah, Gabby, I like that

00:33:02
part too. It was a very, very visual

00:33:04
story. Very cool.

00:33:06
Those are the comment. We only got one comment on our

00:33:08
last video on YouTube. Still better now though.

00:33:13
We're actually growing little arrows are green on YouTube.

00:33:15
So we haven't actually promoted it.

00:33:18
So we will see what happens with that now that paranormal club is

00:33:21
becoming there's really special community kind of thing where

00:33:25
we, you know, go back and forth with comments, with stories,

00:33:28
with, you know, place where we can tell campfire style stories.

00:33:31
We are going to be launching our Instagram, TikTok and Facebook

00:33:37
all together from in the usernames Paranormal Club pod.

00:33:41
There's no content on it yet. You'd be one of the first

00:33:44
literally I think we have 0 followers but you would be one

00:33:47
of the first people to join. I'm going to make a formal

00:33:49
announcement later on, but it's where we're going to keep

00:33:51
telling stories. I know some of you wanted to on

00:33:53
the poll that I released on Spotify.

00:33:55
I asked what kind of stories you want to hear and the some of the

00:33:59
results were campfire style stories.

00:34:02
Like campfire stories basically turn this thing into like, all

00:34:06
right, let's go and just tell you this creepy freaking story.

00:34:10
There are some really creepy fiction stories and some stories

00:34:14
that might be real but aren't. I guess it doesn't make any

00:34:19
sense. Stories that sound real, can be

00:34:22
real, can happen to you, but did not happen.

00:34:26
I like a movie. So if you want to hear me tell

00:34:28
you stories, like as you know, I'm a writer, I tell stories on

00:34:32
Scary Story podcast and I've been telling stories for years,

00:34:36
rewriting. We have hundreds of stories now

00:34:39
in our catalog on there. All those stories, those short

00:34:41
stories were written by me and they're creepy style, like

00:34:46
creepypasta style. They're also some of them are

00:34:49
very heartwarming kind of story. Some of them are sad, some of

00:34:52
them are just creepy, like as in you're going to think they're

00:34:56
real. You're going to be afraid of

00:34:57
going to bed because a hand might reach out from under it.

00:35:00
Kind of kind of stories. Let me know you want to hear.

00:35:02
Those will be really fun for me to do.

00:35:04
And if you have an idea on the story that you want to hear,

00:35:07
like as in you want me to tell a story about something and just

00:35:10
want to tell me an idea or a certain feeling.

00:35:12
Like, for example, stories based on Five Nights at Freddy's that

00:35:15
I've already gotten. Stories coming out this week,

00:35:20
stories based on kind of Silent Hill to stories of creatures in

00:35:25
the woods. I want a story on woman on the

00:35:29
side of the road, stuff like that.

00:35:31
All these things, even though they seem like just really

00:35:34
popular, common stories, they trigger other ideas and they

00:35:38
combine with other stories, other ideas that other people

00:35:40
give to me and we come up with this really nice story.

00:35:43
Also, our live streaming part of this, like our lives are going

00:35:47
to be on YouTube, so you're going to be able to find them on

00:35:50
our YouTube channel, which is youtube.com/paranormal Club Pod

00:35:56
and you should be able to get to it there.

00:35:58
You're going to see like when the next one is.

00:35:59
Now since the holidays are coming, it might be a little

00:36:02
delayed, but either way, you're going to see the next one and

00:36:05
when it's going to be posted. Mainly we're just going to do

00:36:07
Hangouts and story idea story sessions and also some creepy

00:36:12
storytelling on there live and also be responding to you on the

00:36:15
spot. So let me know what you think of

00:36:17
those ideas and then I'll be back next week.

00:36:20
Thank you very much for listening or watching.

00:36:23
Keep it scary everyone. See you soon.