You're out shopping and suddenly someone dressed in clothing from another era greets you. Or you almost get hit by a car that hasn't been manufactured in decades. In this creepy episode of Paranormal Club, I tell you about the weirdest cases of time slips I've found so far.
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A long time ago I wrote this story, a short fictional story
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about this guy who gets asked to go get ice while he's at this
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family event. And his family lives in the
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desert. And they made this like party
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kind of thing in the in the desert.
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My family's from the desert. And this is actually where the
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story is based, right? Again, fictional, right.
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So this guy goes out to get ice and on his way back, he notices
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there's no more cars, there's no more family, there's no more
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music, no more kids running around, no more nothing.
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It's empty. And he's like, where'd everybody
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go? I was gone for like 5 minutes.
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All of a sudden, he hears this like hovering sound, this like
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vibrating kind of sound. The wind comes in and all of a
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sudden he's back. The music's back, Everybody's
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back. And he's just like nothing ever
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changed. Now, there's a little hint in
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the story there, which is he was leaving a trail of like water
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that's dripping from the ice bag.
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And it's supposed to kind of tell you that this is about a
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time slip incident. What is the time slip incident
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is when supposedly you are somewhere and you get taken back
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in time or pushed into the future for just an instant and
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you can see how things were or are gonna be at some other time
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period. Are these things possible?
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Are they always alien abduction kind of things?
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That's what we're going to get into today.
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You ready? My name is Edwin and this is
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Paranormal Club. I think the most famous case
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that I've found throughout the whole thing and it just kept
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repeating over and over and over was the Versailles time slip
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incident, AKA the Moberly Jordan incident.
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And this story takes place back in Europe and it's 19 O 1.
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So there's these two women. Their names are Charlotte and
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Eleanor, and they're intellectual, they're smart,
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they're completely reasonable people.
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Is that what you call them? When they can reason well, they
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can reason well. They're highly educated too, so
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you wouldn't doubt them. Like you trust them immediately.
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So they go to the Versailles area and this is like this huge.
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I don't really not too familiar with any of these kinds of
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things, but it's very important building and it's very
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beautiful. And you can still visit it
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today. And they're trying to find Marie
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Antoinette's Petit Trianon, which is mispronounced by me.
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But basically it's this other area, other touristy kind of the
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spot. And basically, they need to go
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from one area to another, and they have to cross this garden
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kind of thing. And they're like, you know what,
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Let's just do it. People used to walk a lot back
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to actually, yeah, it was totally normal to walk that
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much. So they're like, we'll just find
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it. They start going through the
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gardens and then they kind of get lost.
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They're like, where are we? But who cares?
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It's a nice area as beautiful, like we'll, we'll, we'll figure
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it out. So as you're going, they start
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seeing these kinds of, they start feeling a little bit
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weird, like they have this sense that everything is wrong.
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Like the air is a little bit thicker now, it's heavy.
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There's no wind anymore, like no shadows that are moving.
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Like everything's kind of still. Imagine yourself in a painting
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or like a photograph. It's like that everything is
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kind of looking lifeless, even though they're in a place where
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there's a lot of greenery, a lot of flowers, a lot of stuff like
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that. That's where they find this man
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who's dressed in like old fashioned, actually a couple of
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men, they're dressed in old fashioned green coats.
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They kind of seem from like, not from that time period.
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They get a little bit weirded out, especially with the whole
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like Tri, What is it called? That was Tri.
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What is it called? Those hats, Tri corn hats.
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You know how like, you know, like Captain Crunch and like how
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they have that, like he has that like, I don't know, actually, I
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think he might have the the other hat.
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What kind of hat does he have? But anyways, one of those
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triangle kinds of hats. They're like, this is weird.
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Like it's not from this, this era.
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They also see this woman who's standing completely still
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outside of this cottage. There's a child there too.
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They have like this water jug or something where it's just like
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it's not making any noise. Like it's just, it's kind of
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dull, kind of frozen in time. But it, I mean, there is some
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movement with the people like as in you can tell that they're
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alive. Like they're not like mannequins
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or anything. Then they see this creepy guy
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and he's kind of sitting near a gazebo and, and he's, he's
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really strange looking. Like he looks like he's sick.
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He looks evil. Like you want to get away from
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him. They kind of hesitate to keep
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going, but they're like, OK, let's just let's just go.
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We're already here. We don't know where we are.
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Let's just try to get out of here, right.
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Then this man appears and he's like in French.
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Is it French? Yeah.
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You guys are going the wrong way, go the other way.
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They follow his directions and they they turn the other way and
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keep walking. Now this is where things are
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starting to get a little bit weird, right?
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Because they realize something is off.
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They're not really talking about it, but they can sense it.
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Next thing you know this, the one of the women sees this other
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woman sitting on the grass and she's kind of sketching as she's
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passing by. She kind of goes like, how do
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you do that? It's like that greeting where
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you kind of nod a little bit, try to be fancy here, but the
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other lady doesn't see her at all like Charlotte's the one
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that sees her and Eleanor is like, I didn't see that.
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Now how do we know about this? I'll I'll tell you.
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I'll tell you how we we know who saw what because they're not
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talking about at the moment, right?
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Later, they figure out who it might have been, which is really
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interesting Hint. It might have been Marie
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Antoinette, even though there's no way she be alive at that
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moment. Like no way.
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This is what, hundreds of years later?
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Anyway, suddenly the atmosphere kind of changes and they're
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back. They keep walking and they go
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walk into like this normal area where people are hanging out and
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everything is back to normal. Now, as time went on, they start
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realizing like this was weird, right?
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And one of them becomes so obsessed with it that they
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research for years. Like she, she's going through
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records of like what might have happened.
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What do people look like back then?
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What was this area all about? Now eventually she's convinced
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that she traveled through time. Like she, the, the, the time
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there's a time slip. And all of a sudden she was in
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another area another time. They actually wrote this book
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separately. They, they were documenting
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their, their own experiences, but they're writing this book
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where they talk about their story.
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Everything that they seem to describe matched 18th century
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Versailles, like the, the area. How did that happen?
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You, you, you can't imagine the, the drama all this stuff caused
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from, you know, back then, which was they're just making stuff up
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or wow, this is really interesting, really cool.
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But anyway, either way, that that book that they wrote
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actually, and they wrote it with pen names, not even with their
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own names. They wanted to kind of stay
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anonymous. But they were a little bit
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strange, like seeing a little bit strange later on.
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Like they had paranormal beliefs around the university.
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They weren't really, I mean, they were so trusted, but still,
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like, eventually they came forth and like, yeah, we wrote that.
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So did they actually step back into 1789?
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Did they actually see Marie Antoinette out there?
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There was a lot of women out there, you know, at the at the
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time. How is that even possible?
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There were people who read the book and all these accounts that
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were saying, you know what, you might have just walked into like
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a, a, you know, people cosplaying that as in like a
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party where like you reenact. I guess that's common.
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I didn't know this. Those of you who follow these
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kinds of traditions or like European kind of parties, do you
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like dress up in like old fashioned clothes and like,
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pretend you're in a different time period?
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I mean, I don't find it like, I find it a little strange to me,
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right? It's a little weird, but is that
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a thing? I'm just curious.
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I'm asking because when you have two people, highly educated
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people go through something like that, do we believe them?
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Case number 2, this is actually something that's still ongoing
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right now, Bolt Street, Liverpool, It's July 1996.
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There's this off duty cop, his name's Frank, and he's like, you
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know, I'm going to go meet my wife at a bookstore.
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Let's go meet up there. And he goes into the, you know,
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the bookstore, enters this weird silent area and things just
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start becoming a little weird. Like things just get weird
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because he sees this vintage delivery van.
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He almost gets hit by it actually, and he's like, what?
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I've never seen this before. Looks.
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I mean, you can tell when a car looks old, like from not from
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that era and have it running perfectly and almost run you
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over actually little weird. And he looks around at that
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moment, he's like, whoa, I'm alive, or maybe I'm not alive
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anymore. And I did get hit by that car
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and I'm dead because the street looks different, completely
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different. Like it doesn't look from that
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era anymore. The modern cars are all gone.
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All the cars are replaced with like older ones and less cars
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than the ones that are there like from the 1950s.
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People are dressed like from the they're from the 1950s.
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And he's like, what? Like for me, I, I mean, OK, I
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think personally, if I were in this time slip incident, I
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wouldn't know what was going on. And I would just be like, what
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in the I, I would voice my thoughts and I would just be
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like, is this happening? Am I, am I real?
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Is this real? Life is strange.
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It's kind of like, you know, when when I told you guys that I
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saw an apparition for the first time ever, the actually the
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first and only time I think I've seen an actual thing that I know
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I found out was not there. And it feels like you're like
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time is warped, but you're not really there.
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Like it's just for me, it was like I felt like throwing up,
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but time slips. Imagine all of a sudden you're
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in the 1950s. First off, you need to know what
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the 1950s look like, right? I don't think I, I would know,
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especially in an area like that. But also there's roads where
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there shouldn't be roads or there weren't roads anymore.
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It reminds me a lot of like when you're, I don't know if this
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happens to you, but like, do you ever wonder what your street
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looked like with nothing in it? Like back when, like then
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dinosaur dinosaurs were roaming the earth?
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I think of that every once in a while and seeing a road or like
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a picture of like an old historical picture of your city
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where your house is built now. It used to be like cow fields,
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for example. Like, for me, this is strange,
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right? Also, the bookstore is gone in
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this case. And in Frank's story, it's now
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this shop called Crips is selling purses and shoes.
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All of a sudden, he sees this one woman that's dressed in
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modern clothes, follows her into the store.
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And then he's just back in the 1990s in the bookstore.
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Now, here is what made it weird. Frank looked into this and found
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that Cripps was actually a real store, the real name of a store,
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and it was right where that bookstore was.
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So what does that tell you? Proof.
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Time slips. He went back in time.
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Now, it would be interesting enough right there.
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We just left it at that. But Bold St. actually has a lot
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more stories of time slips. There's this teenager who
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supposedly runs into the 1960s. There's a student who sees
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Victorian Liverpool woman shops at a store where there's no
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shops there. I mean, are these things true?
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Let's accept the mess true for now.
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That means that where are we? I'm talking about in terms of,
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like time and space are are we here right now?
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Are you actually watching me right now?
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Like, are we? What's happening?
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Yeah. OK, let's stop the.
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You know, if you think about it too much, you can go a little
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bit like you can escape reality. Not sure we want to do that
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today. Is it an urban legend?
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Are these stories made-up? Is it memories that are what it
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called false memories? Like things that we remember but
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didn't actually happen but we remember them?
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Or are are is, you know, us learning about time slips
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becoming a thing where like where we tell our own stories of
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time slips, we get them to be a little more elaborate.
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Why are people reporting these experiences on the same St.
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It's, it's, it's, it's weird. I'm starting to feel really
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weird right now. I'm questioning reality.
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Is it a glitch in the matrix? Is it a portal of some sort?
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Now we have to understand, I still don't really understand
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what portals are. I remember I was doing this.
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I was, I was taking this tour, a ghost tour in Portland a while
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back. And I, I realized what it's like
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to be around people who are like eager to believe in the
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paranormal and ghosts and stuff. And I realized this at 1 moment
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when we're in this parking lot where supposedly there was a
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building there that got, you know, it was, they burned down
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basically. And you can still see kind of
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remnants of what it used to be against one of the walls.
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And I remember clear as day, right by the way, it's night
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time tour guide is talking. And all of a sudden I do this.
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I like look to my, to my right and everybody looks at me and
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they're like, what did you see? And I was like, Oh, no, I just
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thought I saw some, something on the, on the asphalt, on the, on
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the parking lot, on the, you know, on the ground.
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And the tour guides like what did, what did it look like?
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Does it look like a flame? And the other guys like I
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thought I saw something too. And then they started talking
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about it. And next thing you know, the
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tour guides like talking about actually, no, it was one of the
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other people where they were talking about like how it might
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have been a portal. And I'm like, well, that just
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slipped out of my hands like that.
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Just I'll just, I'll just let them think what they want to
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think. But it was strange, right?
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And when I'm like, you can see a portal, I started thinking about
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what the heck are portals? I still don't know what a portal
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is. A pathway, a way to get into a
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different world, different realm.
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I have no idea what the I mean, I can kind of understand a
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little bit of like I'm, I don't know, actually, I take that
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back. I have no idea.
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But what does it mean? Like is it a thin spot of
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reality? Can you cross it and you cross
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time and space and everything? How does that work?
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If if you're ever bored and look into a bold St. and all the
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other accounts that are around the area, they're very
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interesting. So I will look them up.
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It I think it's it's it's worth it.
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It I found a lot. But like believable.
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Sure, true, maybe, but there's so many that now since it's
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common knowledge, like you can hear a lot of stories of people
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just kind of adding on to it. I don't know, to me, that's kind
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of loses it a little bit unless you find something a little more
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compelling. It's still very interesting.
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There's this other case that I found, and this is also taking
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place in France. So it's 1979.
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There are two couples who are driving down this beautiful
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French countryside road and they see this charming old inn.
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They're like, hmm, we should probably spend the night there,
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which I think is how we're supposed to do Rd. trips anyway.
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I mean, the only places where I go is like up and down the 5
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freeway in California. I don't think I'd like to stay
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anywhere there, not along there. But I think back then, you know,
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times are different. And I you could see this in
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movies too, where like people are driving around.
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They're like, let's stay there anyway.
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It's what they decide to do. And there's a couple weird
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things about that in which are there's no phones, the windows
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have no glass, which is a red flag, right?
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Why would you stay there? I don't know.
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There's no modern conveniences. And it feels like, yeah, it's
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old fashioned, but it's not like nice old fashioned.
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You know, when you go to a hotel and it's like nice old, well,
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this one was old, old, You probably know what I mean.
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And they're like, well, that was weird.
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They get back in the car, they decide to leave and they're
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like, well, I mean, I liked it. Two weeks later, they're like,
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you know what, let's go visit it again.
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Like it, it was, it was cool. Like, let's go back.
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They drive around and they don't see it.
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Then I did. We go past it.
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What happened? Who knows?
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They try to find it again and nothing.
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The place doesn't exist. It's completely gone.
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Was it demolished? Was it ever there?
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Now here is the creepy part. Before leaving, they had taken a
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picture in front of that in, you know, and when they go and get
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their vacation photos, those photos that are connected in any
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way to the inn are gone. They're missing.
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They're not in that camera roll. What did the building just
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disappear? Was it like leave no trace?
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And it took the photos too. Now, of course, there's a couple
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of theories, things that, you know, we wonder about this this
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specific thing, which is were they somewhere else?
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Were they drunk with the drunk driving?
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Were they tired from driving? And they're like, Oh yeah, was
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here but really is not there anymore.
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Did they think that they took pictures and didn't take the
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pictures? Was it just faulty?
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Like, was it not working? You know, maybe the camera
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wasn't working outside. Did light slip in there when
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they were outdoor at things? Whatever.
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Did they make up the story as they kept telling the story
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overtime, which happens? Come on, let's admit it, right?
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Like maybe you were telling retelling a story or something
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that happened with your friend. Maybe that actually didn't
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happen like how you described it, but like your friend kind of
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egged on, like you guys added to that story and it turned into
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this like wild night when really you guys were just playing
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Monopoly at home. Like it can happen.
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And I know that because you know, we, we get to hear, I
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mean, I personally get to hear a bunch of stories every single
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week and I get to hear also experiences from people.
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And when I ask and I'm like, did that happen like that?
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Did it do this? And, you know, people really
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open up and they tell me about what happened to them.
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It doesn't seem particularly embellished, but when you have
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something that goes popular like that or like everybody's
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interested in the story, you're going to add on to it.
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So which is stranger in this in this in this story, the in
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disappearing or the missing photographs?
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And what do you find more of a creepy angle to this story?
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Let me know. Case number four.
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We have the envelope shop, which I guess are a thing.
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Actually, I should know that I, I actually have a small business
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where I run like I make notebooks like, well, I used to
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make them myself. Now we just have them produced
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and sent to a warehouse and distributed.
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It's called M Notes if you guys are interested.
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EMNOTESM notes. So I did learn about envelopes
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and stuff because it has to do with paper and where you buy
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stuff. But anyway, there's this
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envelope shop and we are in England again, 1973.
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This man goes into a stationary store, we all love those and he
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buys 36 envelopes. The weird thing is that the shop
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guy, the shopkeeper, the the clerk is dressed in like
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Edwardian clothing. Not sure if we can picture that
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Edwardian clothing because I can't.
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I really need to get more familiar with these kinds of
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kinds of stories. Like I love the ghost stories
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and everything, but whenever they mention any kings and
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Queens and styles and eras, I'm like blank.
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When I'm starting to get really into history, like really,
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really into it. The guy feels really like, like,
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well, actually he sees the guy and he's like, this guy is
00:19:06
doesn't belong here. Like he's weirdly out of place.
00:19:09
Like nowadays I think that would be a little more acceptable
00:19:11
'cause we, we see people in cosplay all the time and we see
00:19:14
people expressing themselves through fashion in their own
00:19:17
ways. So, you know, to each of their
00:19:19
own, but this guy just looks weird.
00:19:21
Plus, remember, it's 1973 at the time. 3 weeks later, the guy
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goes back to the store and everything looks modern, like it
00:19:28
was remodeled. He's like, whoa, that's weird.
00:19:30
Whatever happened to that Edwardian guy?
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Turns out there's this other employee there and when he asked
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about the envelopes, they're like that.
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You know what's weird? Those envelopes, Like we stopped
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making them like 15 years ago. Where'd you get them?
00:19:43
Like you're weird. What makes this interesting is
00:19:46
that you have this object, this, this, these envelopes that are
00:19:49
no longer in production. Now you have them and you
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purchase them. They travelled back in time and
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you still have them. But what do you think?
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Maybe they had extra envelope somewhere and they were hidden.
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Wonder what could happen, What else?
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What other kind of things, like maybe you don't remember things
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properly, your faulty memory, which is also a thing, or maybe
00:20:08
misidentified products. Maybe the guy who said, well the
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we stopped making these 15 years ago?
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Really. Thought they were other kinds of
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envelopes. Maybe he's he's a sick excuse,
00:20:19
his excuse to not give them to him or why they don't have them
00:20:23
in stock anymore. Like, hmm, that's weird.
00:20:25
You want those, but they haven't been in production for, you
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know, in 15 years. But how if let's just assume it
00:20:31
was real, how does an object travel back?
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It has happened before where actual physical objects are said
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to appear and people can see them, interact with them, and
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then when they try to like show somebody the object's gone.
00:20:45
There's this other one. I think this is also pretty
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popular too, is one of the the, the ones you can make like a
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documentary out of and it's the Kersey time slip incident.
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Now here is the story, 1957. You have three teenage Navy
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cadets and they're doing this map making exercise, like
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reading exercise where they're giving a map and they're have to
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find their way or like some military exercise.
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They're going to this village and they they're near a Suffolk
00:21:13
area and they suddenly hear church bells, Birds are
00:21:19
chirping. There's smoke coming out from
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the chimneys. They're like, yeah, this place
00:21:23
is like, booming. But then suddenly everything
00:21:27
stops. The bells stop.
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No more church bells. The birds be quiet.
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The wind stops. The trees suddenly look like
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they're not in that same season where they were.
00:21:40
Now it's in the summer. And in the village, there's no
00:21:43
more people. There's no cars, no power lines,
00:21:45
no dirt like, And there's dirt roads instead of, like, what we
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know. There's roads today with, like,
00:21:50
asphalt or paved roads. And the creepiest part, I think
00:21:53
out of the whole thing is that there are ducks that are like
00:21:56
walking or in little ponds areas, but they're just there
00:22:00
like not moving. Now, I know ducks act in really
00:22:05
weird ways. Birds do in general.
00:22:08
I used to have a pet chicken. So I know that they act really
00:22:12
weird. Sometimes they can stay in a
00:22:13
certain area. Oh, they got weird.
00:22:16
I think one of the lights just went out.
00:22:18
But anyway, they, they, they do act weird, but they were just
00:22:21
frozen in time. The houses were empty and they
00:22:25
were walking around the village, by the way.
00:22:27
And it's not just one person, it's multiple people, right?
00:22:29
There's three of them. And there's Ryan animal
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carcasses hanging inside this butcher shop.
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Everybody suddenly left the village that actually happened.
00:22:39
So they start feeling this like intense dread, like sadness,
00:22:42
similar to that first story, right?
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The the Versailles Versailles time slip incident.
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There's like dread, depression, heavy sad feeling.
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And then they feel like they're being watched.
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They're like, let's get out of here.
00:22:57
They run out of the village and all of a sudden the normal
00:23:01
sounds start. Bells, wind, birds, they're back
00:23:06
to normal. Here's the the strange thing,
00:23:09
these guys, these boys remember it very clearly.
00:23:13
Actually, two of them think that they they remember this very
00:23:16
clearly, but the third one says nothing like that happened.
00:23:20
Who do we believe? Of course we have like the
00:23:23
skeptics that say that, you know, it was just you were
00:23:26
affected by something or misconception.
00:23:29
Do you think misperception, I guess you would call it, you're
00:23:32
perceiving something that's not really there.
00:23:34
Maybe you just thought you saw that and then it got reinforced
00:23:38
by the other guy and suddenly you time slipped or you go into
00:23:42
this rural village and just looks a lot older than it
00:23:44
actually. Well, you suddenly get the the
00:23:46
sense that of just how old it is and you think you went back in
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time. You know when I get that strange
00:23:52
feeling when like the the atmosphere kind of changes.
00:23:57
If you're ever at a beach and you're listening to the waves
00:24:00
crashing, there is this moment sometimes every once in a while
00:24:03
where there's no more waves that are crashing and it's just
00:24:05
completely quiet. I imagine it like that and I
00:24:08
love that feeling, by the way. It only lasts for a little bit
00:24:10
because then the waves come back and you're like back to normal.
00:24:13
But every once in a while it's like still.
00:24:15
And it's really strange to be that have it that quiet in such
00:24:18
a vast area, like looking onto the ocean or the beach behind
00:24:21
you or whatever. I'm thinking you're like a pier
00:24:24
or something. That's what I imagined.
00:24:25
But paranormally speaking here, these guys could have slipped
00:24:29
into medieval England. Maybe they witnessed a moment
00:24:33
close to the the the plague era. What about the butcher shop and
00:24:38
the rotting meat? Now this is we have to bring
00:24:41
this up. Why do some witnesses remember
00:24:42
everything while others don't remember it at all?
00:24:44
Are they just trying not to be weird?
00:24:46
Did they feel like they were being judged by sharing their
00:24:48
story? A similar thing happened in this
00:24:50
other case, actually, the Allegash abductions from 1976.
00:24:55
That is where we get into something cool, which is aliens.
00:24:58
So here's how it's goes. It's August 1976 and there are
00:25:03
four friends on a canoe trip in the main wilderness.
00:25:06
Now, they wanted to get away from everything.
00:25:08
Now, these guys are also arch students, right?
00:25:10
There's Jack and Jim. They're they're identical twins.
00:25:14
Their last name is Weiner. It's it's just a last name.
00:25:22
I just find it really cool. It's not as like as like, I
00:25:28
always try to keep like a mature face when I'm trying to say the
00:25:31
name Dick or the last name. But I, I, I don't know, man.
00:25:37
I don't know why I just get like that anyway, Jack and Jim
00:25:42
Weiner, Charlie Fultz and Chuck Rack.
00:25:48
I'm not laughing at their names. I'm really not.
00:25:51
It just is. They sound very like strong
00:25:54
names. Chuck Rack, Charlie Fultz, Jack
00:25:58
and Jim Weiner, they're all art students again.
00:26:01
And they're spending two weeks camping, 2 weeks, 2 weeks, 2
00:26:06
weeks camping in the wilderness, right?
00:26:08
So they wanna, they, they're having a good time.
00:26:10
Anyway, the second night of the trip, Jim notices this bright
00:26:14
object that's hovering above the trees and he watches it with
00:26:17
binoculars. He's like, what is that thing?
00:26:19
And then it just goes away. It doesn't fly away.
00:26:23
It just disappears. It doesn't zoom.
00:26:26
It just vanishes. The group kind of thinks, oh,
00:26:29
well, weird, weird stuff happens out in the wilderness, and they
00:26:33
just keep going. But a few days later, when
00:26:35
they're at Eagle Lake, they're out fishing in the canoe, and
00:26:39
they leave a huge bonfire by like, the shoreline area.
00:26:44
And it's kind of like their beacon, like the way that they
00:26:47
know how to get back to their area because it's going to get
00:26:50
dark, right? All of a sudden, Chuck is this
00:26:53
feeling like this classic paranormal feeling, and he says
00:26:57
that he feels like they're being watched.
00:26:59
Turns around and there's this huge glowing Oval looking shape
00:27:04
above the trees. It's estimated like it's huge,
00:27:07
right? It's estimated to be like 80
00:27:09
feet across and it's completely quiet.
00:27:11
It's not like there's motors running, no engines, nothing.
00:27:14
It's just quiet. This pulsing red, green, yellow
00:27:17
and white and it's just doing that thing.
00:27:20
Charlie flashes an SOS signal with his flashlight.
00:27:22
He's like 222-222-2222. Big mistake.
00:27:27
Why would you do that to like a, a UFO dude?
00:27:30
The UFO reacts like it starts moving closest to them and
00:27:34
shoots this blue beam and like bluish white light straight to
00:27:38
them and it starts like chasing them.
00:27:41
Basically they're like, how do we do So three of the guys, they
00:27:44
start paddling as fast as they can.
00:27:45
They're like, I need to get back, trying to get away.
00:27:47
But Chuck is just there. Chuck Rack, he's just frozen.
00:27:53
He's like, no reaction, nothing, nothing's coming out of him.
00:27:58
He's like almost hypnotized. This is what they described him
00:28:00
as. And then the beam apparently
00:28:03
engulfs the whole canoe. Next thing they know, they're
00:28:07
now standing back at the shore and they're watching the object
00:28:10
kind of hovering nearby, and it just shoots up towards the sky
00:28:14
and disappears. And the weirdest detail here is
00:28:16
that they think that only 15 or 20 minutes have gone by, but the
00:28:20
giant bonfire that they had made was like almost completely
00:28:23
burned out. That means it must have been a
00:28:24
long time, right? If you're familiar with that,
00:28:26
which I'm not logs, anything that you put like that it it
00:28:29
does last a while. I mean, someone out there can
00:28:32
tell me how long a typical log would would last in a bonfire.
00:28:36
But like a long time had passed, apparently because it was dying
00:28:39
out. There's actually just glowing
00:28:41
coals left there, so the bonfire should have lasted hours.
00:28:44
Something just doesn't add up. And another weird thing is that
00:28:47
nobody was freaking out about it.
00:28:49
They just kind of accepted it as a thing that happened.
00:28:52
And all four of them are like, really, really, really tired.
00:28:55
And they go straight to sleep. They don't really talk about it
00:28:57
anymore. 12 years later, 1988, the twins start having
00:29:02
nightmares. In the nightmares, they are in
00:29:05
this bright room. There are these strange figures
00:29:07
around. They're sitting naked on a
00:29:09
beach. The friends are sitting beside
00:29:11
them and they're being examined. They don't understand where
00:29:15
these nightmares are coming from, right?
00:29:16
But they start kind of start connecting things little by
00:29:18
little. They're also able to describe
00:29:20
the beings. They said they had large heads,
00:29:22
huge metallic looking eyes, long necks.
00:29:27
Did I say that already? Large heads, long necks,
00:29:29
metallic looking eyes, 4 fingered hands, which and then a
00:29:33
very classic grey alien type description.
00:29:37
They were abducted by aliens, or so they think, right?
00:29:39
They contact this UFO researcher, his name is Raymond
00:29:42
Fowler. He's coming, he's back.
00:29:44
I, I talked about them before actually.
00:29:46
And all four undergo this hypnosis separately, like a
00:29:50
hypnosis session. And what they report is that
00:29:52
they were being taken into an aircraft.
00:29:55
They were examined like medical examination style.
00:29:59
They get skin samples taken, blood samples taken and physical
00:30:03
procedures, which I don't really understand what kind, but like,
00:30:07
you know, poking around and stuff.
00:30:09
Now all four of them, again, they're art students, they're
00:30:12
trained artists and they can draw independently.
00:30:16
The UFO, the examination room, the entities, the whole thing
00:30:21
and the sketches are reported to be very similar to each other.
00:30:24
Now, supporting evidence here is that they do a psychiatric
00:30:27
evaluation polygraph test. Multiple witnesses are are
00:30:31
there, you know, as kind of to add to the story the polygraph
00:30:34
test, they say that they believe that what they saw was real,
00:30:37
true, and they're not lying. They get evaluated.
00:30:40
Totally normal people. What the heck happened?
00:30:44
So it became famous because of that, you know, you have four
00:30:46
people shared experience. You have missing time.
00:30:49
Everything is consistent. However, 2016 things change.
00:30:55
Chuck Rack changes the story. I hope his name is right, by the
00:30:59
way, I hope I'm missing it right.
00:31:00
His claim is that the UFO sighting was real but the
00:31:04
abduction story is fake. He says that parts were
00:31:07
exaggerated for money. Dang, he just ruined the story.
00:31:11
And they also said that they were using hash during the trip.
00:31:19
So the others pushed back and they're like no, that's not true
00:31:21
man. We were not doing that, not at
00:31:22
that moment. It was not a hoax.
00:31:24
We didn't get money off of it. And they continue to stand by
00:31:27
the abduction story to this day. So now we have 2 mysteries,
00:31:30
right? Did they actually experience an
00:31:33
abduction or did they gradually build a shared story over time?
00:31:38
What do you think happened? Would you believe this story if
00:31:40
you heard them telling you the stories, Like personally seeing
00:31:44
a documentary about them? It's hard to say.
00:31:46
It's, it's a really, it's hard to make a, a judgement call
00:31:50
because you're talking about somebody else's experience.
00:31:52
Like you don't have a right to say it's not real.
00:31:55
And you also can't like, stand up for them and be like, yeah, I
00:32:00
was there too because you weren't.
00:32:01
But these incidents are very interesting considering, you
00:32:05
know, multiple witnesses, people that are willing to put their
00:32:08
reputations on the line about this.
00:32:11
It's it's a interesting take. I guess it takes some courage to
00:32:16
to come out and say something like that.
00:32:17
That's so bizarre and so out there.
00:32:19
But when you see people reacting to them and being like, wow,
00:32:22
that's so cool. And like, you get money, but I
00:32:25
don't know, you get acknowledged somehow, you get fame.
00:32:28
You you kind of follow along with it, right?
00:32:31
It's it's a strange thing to think about when when we're
00:32:35
talking about these events because it opens up a whole
00:32:38
thing of discussion. Like when you cross into a new
00:32:42
realm per SE, are you seeing the ghost, quote UN quote of an
00:32:47
area, like not of a person, but like a whole thing, buildings,
00:32:51
roads, cars? Are you seeing an imprint of
00:32:54
that at that moment? Does that change completely how
00:32:57
we see ghosts? Like are they just records
00:32:59
playing over and over or memories appearing out of
00:33:02
nowhere? It's time slipping.
00:33:03
Our ghost people that are like living in a different era and
00:33:07
just kind of cross for like a little bit.
00:33:09
Like if you're here, they're there and you just kind of cross
00:33:11
for a little bit and then you just go back to normal.
00:33:13
And then we call them ghost sightings.
00:33:16
Does that happen? That's just what I'm, I'm
00:33:19
wondering, is that possible? I don't know.
00:33:21
You don't find that cool. I don't know what to say.
00:33:23
I don't know what's because it's, it's, it's strange.
00:33:26
It's a very strange thing to, to think about, but I'm I'm curious
00:33:30
to know what you think about time slips out, what you thought
00:33:32
of these cases. Are they all fake?
00:33:34
Have you heard about them before?
00:33:35
And do they have a different angle to the story?
00:33:37
Let me know what you think. I don't think I've ever gone
00:33:40
through like a time slip kind of thing, except for there was one
00:33:43
time when I found something really weird, which was I was at
00:33:46
a Denny's and I was, I remember hearing the waitress say
00:33:53
something like, oh, don't worry about it.
00:33:55
Let me get you some napkins or something like that.
00:33:58
I wrote it down. I wrote down that that
00:33:59
experience. I remember, but I heard that I
00:34:02
turned around and like I didn't see anything.
00:34:05
Next thing you know, I'm sitting down eating and I hear the
00:34:07
waitress say the exact same thing after somebody spilled
00:34:09
something like, oh, no, don't worry.
00:34:11
I got it the exact same line. And I'm like, wow, what just
00:34:17
happened? Like I saw the future for a
00:34:19
little bit, but that that was, I mean, I wouldn't consider it a
00:34:22
time slip thing, but it was, it might have been like a Deja vu
00:34:24
kind of thing. Are Deja Vu's different than
00:34:27
time slips? Interesting, interesting.
00:34:31
Let me know what you think. I'm I'm, I, I wanna get more
00:34:34
cases of this. Or have you heard of any of
00:34:36
these cases of time slip incidents sent on my way?
00:34:39
Please. You have my contact information
00:34:41
and description of every episode,
00:34:43
edwin@paranormalclub.com. You can also go to
00:34:46
paranormalclub.com and submit the the story there through the
00:34:49
contact form. I'd be super interested in in
00:34:52
learning more. But anyway, that's all I got for
00:34:54
you this week. Thank you so much for coming
00:34:56
back to Paranormal Club and I'm here in case you have any of any
00:35:00
paranormal experiences you want to share 'cause I'm putting
00:35:02
together a listener submitted stories episode.
00:35:06
So anything, everything goes right.
00:35:08
So just submit him, send him my way.
00:35:11
As always, keep it scary, everyone.
00:35:12
Thanks for watching or listening, by the way.
00:35:15
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