When Urban Legends Become Real (Hometown Hauntings)

When Urban Legends Become Real (Hometown Hauntings)

The legend of Candyman, La Llorona, and San Antonio's Ghost Tracks all seem to have something in common: they turned real, even though they started as just stories.

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You may have heard of the urban legend about the Candyman,

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right? If you say Candyman five times

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in front of the mirror, this evil vengeful spirits going to

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appear and kill you. If there's a bunch of variations

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on, they're going to keep hearing throughout everywhere,

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like everybody has their own account.

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Somebody who actually got had an encounter with Candyman.

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But what if I told you that I found actual stories where

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legends like this one, the Candyman and other ones like La

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Yorona and the haunted railroad tracks in Texas actually became

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real? And that's what I have for you

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today. We're going to get started right

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away. Actually ready.

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My name's Edwin, and this is Paranormal Club Spookies.

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Welcome back to another episode here of Paranormal Club.

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These stories that I'm going to tell you about today have three

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common things, right? One is that they're all urban

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legends and urban myths that somehow seem to become real in

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their own way. There's also the fact that all

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these stories happen to take place in Texas.

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So huge shout out to Texas. This is actually part of our

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hometown Urban Legends series thing.

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We'll see where it goes. But then the third, and this is

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more of a content warning, is that these stories contain

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details about harm to a child. It's not graphic, but it's

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there. And I feel it's important for

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you to know, just so that you have a heads up, you have little

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ones listening or watching. Just listen at your own

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discretion and please take care while you're listening.

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So it's Halloween night, October 31st, 1974.

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Ronald O'Brien and his two children, that's Timothy and

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Elizabeth are getting ready to go out trick or treating.

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Three other neighborhood kids tag along, right.

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And actually one of the other kids that was with him was a boy

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from the church where he would go to.

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Now Ronald was a respected member of the community, an

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optician, optician and a like a member of the church, like an

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important respected member of the church.

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And they were going out trick or treating like normal.

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They head out to this house, they knock, trick or treat.

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Nobody's answering. Ronald kind of disappears for a

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little bit, comes back and he's like, oh, the owner of the house

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wanted to have these. So he decides to give them the

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candy instead. The candy in question are 5

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Pixie sticks, goes on 2 with two children.

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The other three children walk away.

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Everything's good. Later on that night, once I get

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home, Timothy was 8 years old at the time, opens up the Pixie

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stick. By the way, a Pixie stick is

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just like a paper straw kind of thing.

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You RIP it and there's a sugary powder.

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You just, it fits all in your mouth candy.

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They're pretty good, right? But he eats the candy, and he

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starts saying, like, oh, this is really bitter.

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So Ronald, the dad's like, oh, like, here, have some kool-aid.

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So it gives him a glass of, like, something to drink to kind

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of wash it down. But Timothy starts vomiting and

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convulsing. Happened so fast that he didn't

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even make it to the hospital. He died like almost right away.

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This is a super tragic story of what happened.

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But The thing is, the person who had given him the Pixie sticks

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was his own dad. Timothy was the only one that

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ate it. They happened to find one of the

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other children that had gotten one of these Pixie sticks.

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He had fallen asleep with it, like in his hand.

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He had to try to open it but couldn't open it.

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And he just kind of fell asleep. So he didn't eat it.

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But all of those were laced with cyanide, potassium cyanide,

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which later on turned out to be super, super suspicious because

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back then, obviously there's no like Google, they don't like see

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your Google history or your web browse history, right?

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They end up finding out like, oh, yeah, they talked, He talked

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to me about this and he said this or they start questioning

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everybody. You know, turns out he had

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questioned a lot of people about the lethal dose of cyanide,

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which by the way, the stuff that he gave to his child was more

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than enough to kill multiple adults.

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So a little 8 year old had no chance to survive this.

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It's very, I mean, the whole story is sick.

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Like it's just this, it's disgusting.

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Now, the proof of it, aside from him going to, you know, buy all

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these things, they had records of him going to a chemical

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supply store to gather this stuff.

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He had asked questions in class about this too.

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It was that he had taken out an insurance policy.

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He had taken out insurance on the death of his children.

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And Ronald was supposedly in like like around $100 in

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debt and he was going to get like a few, no like 10, a couple

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$10 with from the death of his, his child.

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So he did it for the insurance money.

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He goes to trial about 8 months later.

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This is 1975, we're in June now. And he it takes some, what, 46

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minutes to get through the trial that he gets convicted in

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another 71 minutes and he gets sentenced to the lethal

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injection. So they're going to it's

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execution. It takes a while, right?

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It takes a while for him to actually get through it.

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They do appeals a whole legal process.

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And there's a fight, you know, with the whole anti death

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penalty protesters and all these lawyers that are trying to say

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like, hey, this is not right. Like, yeah, he killed somebody.

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But what what gives us the right to take someone else's life

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away? He became known as the candy

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man, the man who killed Halloween or the Pixie Styx

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killer. It was terrible, terrible time.

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Very sad time for Texans, of course, with a protest in the

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counter protest. They say that when he was going

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to get executed. This has happened in 1984.

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Finally, they the the counter protesters, remember the

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protesters are the ones that are the ones that are and against

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the death penalty and the counter protesters are the ones

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that are saying like, no, he deserves it.

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But they were throwing candy at these protesters saying trick or

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treat, trick or treat. I found that kind of that point

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kind of strange, right? Because it's like, I mean, you

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could be pro that you could be against that.

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It doesn't stop it. You know what what happened

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sadly that the child still you know, he's not coming back.

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Now the interesting part about all this too is that that panic

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about searching through your kids candy during Halloween

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because it might be laced with poison or maybe it might have.

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I don't know, blades in the apples.

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I don't think I've ever gotten apples in as as a trick or

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treater ever. How could you even fit those in

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without noticing? I guess you.

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I guess it happened at one point, but anyway, it really

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pushed that panic even more, right where there's poison in

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here, but the whole idea of the candy man, a person who poisons

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your candy to kill your children, just spun off into its

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own urban legend. You have one more Bloody Mary

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ish. Hey, say this in front of the

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mirror and then this thing is going to appear and try to kill

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you, which I don't know why anybody would want to summon a

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spirit that's going to kill you, but I mean, we can all do

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whatever you want. I guess that turned into the

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story of this guy who killed this child.

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But I made me think like, what other legends are there that

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bring this stuff up? And I found this book actually

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that had some research, actual scholarly articles written about

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this idea of legends becoming real.

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And when I see something scholarly mentioning legends and

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ghost stories that are real, that was all in.

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And this is how I found these kind of related to each other.

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Another one, for example, this was a little bit shorter, but

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this is the actual story of somebody in Houston and they

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ended up calling the real life La Yorona.

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Now the legend of La Yorona is it actually did a survey,

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imagine this, right? Did a survey nationwide about

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who knows what La Yorona is, who knows, like whatever.

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They found that one out of four people knew 25%.

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They knew what we were talking about when they say, oh, what do

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you know about La Yorona? They could explain it, but in

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Houston, 100% of Mexican American families knew.

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Somebody mentions La Yorona. You know exactly what we're

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talking about here. And this is what makes this an

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interesting thing, right? There's another sad story La

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Yorona's story is actually based on.

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It means the weeping woman, and it's based on the original.

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Legend says that there's this, there was this woman who was

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pretty upset at her husband and she took her children out to the

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river, threw them in there and they drowned.

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And then now she goes around the river, like walking along the

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shore or the river side. What do you call that?

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The river, river's edge. And she just cries.

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And she does this cry that's very like, it's creepy.

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It just has like me see Hawks like Oh my children, you know,

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and this is like this like sad what they call a Lamento like

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this sad scream of like my kids are gone and it's sad right in

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general, why a woman will become the real life Yorona in Houston

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was a a tragic story. This woman went out to A to a

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bridge and her name was Juana Leja.

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And in April 1986, I actually have the story right here.

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She got she had seven children and she gathered all of them,

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took them on a bus to downtown Houston.

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She walked to the bridge, the one that's Buffalo Bayou, the

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the one that spans that right, right around there too.

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I found that there was a police station which was in in plain

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sight, but it didn't matter to her.

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She picked them up 1 by 1 is her throwing them in the river and

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there's passerby's and stuff, right?

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So they're trying to stop her, but before they could stop her,

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she had already thrown in six of her children into that body of

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water. So unfortunately, two of them

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drowned. The other four were able to be

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saved, and the other one that was remaining there obviously is

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still alive. After that, like this, the

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people in Houston were calling her the real life Yorona because

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why would you throw your children in the river?

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Now some people say, I mean, I'm not obviously not a psychologist

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or anything, but they say that there is some type of depression

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that women go through after having children, postpartum

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depression, and that there's all these other things.

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I'm not saying that this is what it was, but there's all these

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theories about how mothers, there's records of mothers

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killing their own children. And when it comes out to

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explaining why it's, I mean, it's it's just kind of this rage

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this I just don't want them or rejection or whatever.

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You've seen this, right? And like animals do that kind of

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thing, but that's animals made me, I don't know, made me wonder

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because there's this other case that I read about.

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If anybody that's watching knows what I'm talking about here,

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please link me to an article or something.

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Because there was this case where this woman killed, I think

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it was a 3 1/2 week old kid did horrible things as in like I'm

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saying kind of old type of stuff.

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And they they blamed it on that, on some type of I don't want

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this kid and and that was that. But that's a whole other, that's

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a whole other thing. But back to this Liorona thing.

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Now that that turned real, right?

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They start saying that women that do this might become that.

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Now, I heard a different kind of story with Liorona and I really

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like this, this idea that, you know, that goes along with it

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because it's it's not so gruesome, I guess.

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But they say that in Mexico at the time of the conquistadores,

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when they were actually being colonized, Mexico itself, I

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guess the new generation of Mexicans basically being lost to

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time and to the times, I guess, that were happening because of

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the colonization. So in a way, Mexico was losing

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its children. And they say that La Yarona

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symbolizes that a woman who's losing her children in the same

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way that Mexico was losing its generations.

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So there's a whole study that goes into it and how it ties in

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together and this kind of what we're our efforts here, right?

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Like what what this article that I found is going through, which

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is how urban ledge has become a real thing.

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The main thing here, by the way, this article, the information

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comes from Carl Lindell's the the article is called Ostensive

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Healing Pilgrimage to the San Antonio Ghost Tracks.

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And that's right, this is what we're talking about here, an

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actual scholarly article on this.

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And ostention, by the way, what they call it is when you live

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out the legends and they become real that way.

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So in this case, Ayorona is this woman who drowns her kids.

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Now it's real. You lived it out and it's real

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now. But in this case, with the ghost

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railroad tracks, they start talking more about, let me tell

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you first what it is, right? Because I feel like I'm kind of,

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I'm going to lose you if I don't.

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So here's what happens, right? I'm going to read to you exactly

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what I wrote out just so that I could describe it.

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Down on the South side of San Antonio, near the corner of

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Villa Main and Shane Rd., there's a set of railroad tracks

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that for years have been the center of one of Texas.

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Strangest legends that if you drive up to these tracks, stop

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your car and you put it in neutral, something eerie starts

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to happen. Without you touching the gas or

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anything, the car will slowly start to move forward as if

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hands were pushing the car from behind you and getting you out

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of the way of the train tracks. And for decades, people were

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actually going out there and testing it out.

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They would families would gather around, keep, hop in a car

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parked like put the car in neutral and it would just kind

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of go. I remember the segment from none

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other than Pretty Many Impacto doing this investigation going

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in the car. I think it was Pretty Many

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Impacto or some type of channel, maybe Telemundo or something.

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They were going in there to see what happens.

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They get in the car and the car slowly starts to move across the

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tracks. Then they check behind the car

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and the baby power that they put back there shows little

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handprints that are pushing the car.

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Really creepy. Now the the the tale behind it

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goes that a long time ago this bus full of children and the bus

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driver were crossing the railroad tracks and they got hit

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by a train. They all died.

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So now the children try to save anybody who goes in there and

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staying in the railroad tracks. At least that's the that's the

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idea. Now, the story, when I try

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looking it up, I couldn't find an actual account of it

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happening. But that doesn't mean that the

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legend isn't real because people were living after story,

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sometimes driving like 200 miles just to go see it and try it out

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and get in there. Some knew the legend, right?

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Like they knew. Oh yeah, like they say that kids

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here died and they're trying to save us.

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Others just went because they wanted to have a good time and

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that's the reason why. But still doesn't make it like

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less important, right? They're still travelling a long

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ways to go and experience this thing which makes the legend

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real. I think that's what makes we

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need to find urban legend. I mean, I don't want to go all

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Webster here, but that's kind of what it is.

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They say that's actually how it starts.

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They say that here, blah, blah, blah happened and this is what

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the story of the railroad tracks was all about.

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By the way, historians, police researchers, the archives, none

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of them showed anything about this actually happening.

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There was one case that happened somewhere in another part of the

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United States where a bus was hit by a train, but it somehow

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adapted there to the to this part of San Antonio, which, hey,

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it's now there, you know, But why did the cars actually roll?

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Now? They call this like a gravity

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hill where it looks like you're going uphill, but really it's

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inclined down, but it looks like when you look at it, it looks

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like you're going up strippy. I can kind of imagine it being

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more like, ever been to San Francisco or something where

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like the streets are weird. I imagine it looked kind of like

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that, except this kind of backwards or like those museums

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are like upside down houses. It looks like you're going down,

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but really you're going up. It's kind of like that, like an

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optical and illusion, but not optical, more like gravitational

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illusion. However, try to tell this to

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somebody who has experienced it, or I seen the handprints and

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they're going to be like, no, this is real, this happened.

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And The thing is, here's where we start tying it into something

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a little more. I would say it's stronger

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because when we think of children, at least with Hispanic

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families, there's a lot of thought about like purity, a lot

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of thought about like taking care of them with a whole maloho

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thing, which is like somebody they say, I mean, I had to look

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this up before because it's so I've only heard it being

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mentioned. Never even try to look this up.

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But what it is, is like if somebody looks at a baby and has

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this strong kind of eye, like it could be just this passionate,

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just like you love the baby or like you have this like strong

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eye. It's hard to describe.

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They say that if you don't touch the baby or you don't pick them

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up or whatever. They end up getting these, I

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don't know, it can be as simple as diarrhea to getting sick to

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the baby end up ends up having this thing.

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And they say that there's ways to cure the child of these

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things using an egg cleanse, using other types of little

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rituals here and there. It's a very interesting little

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fact. But when children are involved

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in such a like an intense accident and then having them

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try to save you, the story itself starts to mean something.

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Children are trying to protect you and they're pure beings,

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right? Like angels, kind of.

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And it becomes this very important thing that takes it.

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It takes like its own shape. And this is what this whole

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article was about. I'm saying article, but it was

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really pages and pages of this material where they actually end

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up interviewing somebody who talks about her own experiences.

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She was a student at one of the universities there and she talks

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about her experiences going there and what they did and like

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how her family ended up with a very interesting story to share

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for years and years after going to that.

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The haunted railroad tracks, you know, so it it became real for

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her and there's some quotes intertwined with all this stuff,

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right. Her name is Lydia, by the way,

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and she mentioned this thing about the large handprint

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because you see little handprints of the children, but

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then you also see a large one sometimes.

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So Lydia believes that these larger prints that are sometimes

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found in the car. When you check that for like the

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dusty part of the back car or maybe you put baby powder on

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there to see, they say that it shows that it's from the adult

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driver who was, you know, drive like taking care of the

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children. But they're also trying to

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protect the visitors that go there from the incoming train.

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So this also acts as a warning against don't leave your car

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here. Like don't let this happen to

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you as well. And this piece is also, it was

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mentioning a lot of like Mexican American kind of folklore along

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with it, but also for non Hispanics.

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Like the site is, I mean, it's known as gravity hill.

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This is how what it's known and or at least a phenomenon known

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as a gravity hill. And they have no idea of the

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tragic legends. People might just go to

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experience these ghostly events. Now, it is different for Mexican

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American families because of the children and also because of the

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pilgrimage that takes place with it.

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Now, I was very hesitant in calling it a pilgrimage because

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it's not really a pilgrimage, but you do travel to your

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experience something. But the person who wrote it has

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like little knowledge to, it's kind of researching and

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interviewing people about it. So this, this investigator, this

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person who wrote the article said that like I mentioned a

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little bit earlier, due to their innocence, are more attuned to

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the spirit world and can sense or see ghosts that adults

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cannot. Parents often bring their own

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children to the tracks, asking them to try and sense the

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ghosts. And this is something I feel

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like my family would do. Like my dad would probably go

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like, Oh yeah, let's go, let's go.

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It's it's common. This is what I mean by like

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there's very little stigma when it comes to believe believing

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ghost in general, at least among like my family.

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And this this author also said that it's a semi sacred

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pilgrimage. I'm not sure I would go that

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far, but it it makes sense, you know, to see it that way.

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And they call that extensive healing for the children's

00:23:39
ghosts, allowing the spirits to fulfill their need to do good,

00:23:41
which in turn helps them, the pilgrims, save themselves.

00:23:47
That's a significant sound. Now, I mentioned Lydia, right,

00:23:51
Lydia Z from the this article. And she says this, right?

00:23:56
What I've always believed is that if a child dies young, or

00:23:59
even if an adult dies at a young age, that they go to be like a

00:24:02
guardian Angel or something. And I think it makes people feel

00:24:06
safe that the kids are just so innocent and they don't know any

00:24:10
kind of wrong. And all they want to do is, you

00:24:13
know, when something like that happens, they become a guardian

00:24:16
for somebody. They just want to protect and

00:24:18
make sure that the person is OK. This encapsulates the the

00:24:24
original thought here. It is exactly what what it's

00:24:27
like, you know, when you think of children passing away, it's

00:24:30
like, oh, they're going to take care of you.

00:24:33
She also says, I've always heard about the small hat handprints.

00:24:37
And then over the years I've heard about the larger

00:24:39
handprints. And I've always just thought it

00:24:40
out as the adults that died with them.

00:24:43
The bus driver is protecting them.

00:24:45
They couldn't protect the kids and when it happened, but maybe

00:24:48
that's their own way of protecting the children from

00:24:50
being exposed to too much. A little bit is OK, and everyone

00:24:54
wants to experience a supernatural thing.

00:24:56
But if you push it and you make fun of it, it's like, OK, well,

00:25:01
fine. You don't believe it, Just go

00:25:03
away. You don't need to be here.

00:25:05
So basically a saying, if you go and you just want to make fun of

00:25:09
these ghosts because like, Oh yeah, it's funny little little

00:25:12
kids, you have this larger handprint that's kind of

00:25:15
protecting them in the afterlife.

00:25:18
Like when we take ghost stuff seriously, this is what I mean,

00:25:21
like we get pretty serious with all this stuff.

00:25:23
So I mentioned the thing about maloho, right?

00:25:26
And The thing is that what they directly, I guess what you would

00:25:31
translate as is evil eye. But here's a breakdown, right?

00:25:35
So just get a little more information about it.

00:25:37
So it's typically caused by inadvertently when or caused

00:25:41
inadvertently when individuals with strong vision admire or

00:25:45
envy somebody and can cause harm to the admired person or object.

00:25:50
The harm can be adverted if the person causing the OH touches

00:25:54
the victim before the illness sets in and the symptoms that

00:25:57
happen it's interesting here include irritability, fever,

00:26:02
headaches, vomiting, and drooping eyes.

00:26:05
Now Lydia from this article said that her daughter Danielle would

00:26:09
cry or feel unwell when affected.

00:26:12
Turns out that her daughter would actually request like to

00:26:14
have the egg cleanse because she would feel better.

00:26:17
People are like how is that even going to work?

00:26:19
The whole cleanse with an egg? Like how does that even work?

00:26:23
Like why is that a thing? Lydia doesn't care if you don't

00:26:28
believe it, because when she does it to herself or to help

00:26:32
other people, it works even with people that are not Hispanic,

00:26:35
not Mexican Americans, not Central South American.

00:26:38
She just knows that it works. And she has seen other people

00:26:43
who don't believe in this stuff try it and they're like, yeah,

00:26:46
it worked. So you might say it's placebo

00:26:49
effect, but you just don't know. There's also it gets as detailed

00:26:53
as like once you crack the egg or or you, you do the egg

00:26:56
cleanse, you set the egg so it takes the moonlight crack it.

00:27:00
You can actually read things about it, see if you're healed

00:27:03
or if it took out negative energies from you.

00:27:07
If you're good to go. You can know based off of

00:27:09
reading it by putting it in a glass of water and seeing where

00:27:12
the egg goes. It's interesting, interesting

00:27:14
little thing. It's not necessarily like

00:27:17
witchcraft because it's not doing anything.

00:27:20
It's a cleanse. So it, it's, I think it's pretty

00:27:24
cool to, to think of it that way because I've seen I've been like

00:27:27
markets where like they're beating people with like leaves,

00:27:31
like branches or, you know, things like I see people

00:27:35
getting, they spit at them. Like, OK, you're good.

00:27:38
Like, like drink a thing and spit it and like keep beating

00:27:41
you with a thing. Not like people pay for this.

00:27:43
And there's like long lines, long lines of people waiting to

00:27:47
get this done. So must do something, must do

00:27:51
something. If you ever done that or if you

00:27:54
know how to do that stuff, that won't tell me.

00:27:56
Tell me more about it because I'm very intrigued, very

00:27:59
intrigued about all that stuff. I've seen it happen, obviously,

00:28:01
like I've seen it. I never had it done to myself.

00:28:03
Actually, I might have without me knowing me when I was a kid.

00:28:05
I don't know, but interesting nonetheless.

00:28:10
All right, so from the comments section this time on Spotify

00:28:14
again, I guess from Spotify from our episode subliminal or

00:28:17
Supernatural, the power of hidden messages.

00:28:21
It says this one comes from Ghost girl.

00:28:25
It says I loved your episode like like always.

00:28:28
You're awesome. I know that if I ever talk to

00:28:30
you, we'll be talking for hours. I have a few stories for you.

00:28:33
Continue the great work and please don't stop writing.

00:28:35
Your stories are amazing. Thanks a lot, ghost girl, but

00:28:38
please send in your stories. I need these stories or you

00:28:41
already sent them in. Thank you.

00:28:43
I appreciate that. Thank you so much, Codfather.

00:28:47
Cool name. Hey Edwin, I just started

00:28:50
listening to your podcast. So far I'm loving it.

00:28:52
Keep it up. I was also wondering if you can

00:28:54
do a story on the Flamingo Club in Stockton, CA.

00:28:57
It's called Dancing with the Devil.

00:29:00
Oh, I think I've heard of the Flamingo Club.

00:29:03
I have to look it up. But thanks a lot for the

00:29:04
suggestion. That's I'm gonna, I'm gonna look

00:29:07
that up. This other comment from Danny

00:29:09
Moon says hello Edwin. First time commenting, but I

00:29:11
love to listen to your podcast from the true scary stories to

00:29:14
Horror Story and now to this. Love to listen to it at work at

00:29:17
12:30 at night when I'm all by myself in the dark.

00:29:21
Watch out, watch out Danny Moon. Just kidding, but yeah, that's

00:29:25
awesome. Thanks a lot.

00:29:26
Thanks a lot for the comment and for listening.

00:29:28
That's brave to listen that late.

00:29:30
Trippy says the whole do you know what your kids are thing

00:29:33
started after the Atlanta murder started Crazy story, more true

00:29:37
crime, but interesting theories for sure.

00:29:40
I'm going to look this up for sure because the do you know

00:29:44
where your kids are? It was was really, really, I

00:29:50
mean, it's the regular warning, but it just has this really

00:29:53
eerie feel to it, like what's going to happen to me?

00:29:56
Daddy Fern says. I'm new to the podcast and I've

00:29:59
been hooked listening to the listener listener's personal

00:30:02
experiences with the paranormal and reopened many memories of my

00:30:05
own experiences with the paranormal.

00:30:07
Like when I was a child and being face to face with a

00:30:10
Luende, going on on a camping trip with my family and family

00:30:14
friends, and discovering that my Theo's friends were plotting A

00:30:19
satanic ritual against him. I've experienced many things

00:30:26
from my childhood that I would love to share with you and the

00:30:29
whole Spooky's family. Please send it in

00:30:32
paranormalclub.com or send me an e-mail edwin@scarystory.com.

00:30:37
Creepy. Let me see.

00:30:39
Chiquita. 2O8 says I would watch Sabado Gigante.

00:30:41
I hated that guy. They even told my parents he's a

00:30:44
perv. I would leave the room or yell

00:30:46
how dumb he was. Just found your show.

00:30:49
I'm a newbie. Yeah, I guess.

00:30:53
Yeah, he was a yeah. I mean, there was some

00:30:58
questionable things that he didn't.

00:30:59
I mean TV that in that era, not to excuse this because it's not

00:31:05
right, but I used to see so much creepy stuff like that guy who

00:31:08
would kiss people in the mouth like like the guy did like like

00:31:12
Don Francisco used to do that. I don't know if it was something

00:31:15
from people from that age or I don't know, I don't know.

00:31:17
TV host there were something odd.

00:31:21
My Lady Owls has very good episode.

00:31:23
If y'all have ever have the time and don't mind going down the

00:31:25
rabbit hole of sorts, y'all might be interested in to read

00:31:29
or listen about the Montauk Project or MK Ultra as they all

00:31:33
inevitably tie together with a satanic panic which then created

00:31:37
the rise of Christian nationalism.

00:31:39
There's a lot of thoughts about Christian Christianity and the

00:31:43
whole thing about what it's really doing.

00:31:46
But I do know some of the effects that these religious

00:31:49
groups have done. Some of the also the some of the

00:31:53
scams, also some of the influence that they have over

00:31:58
our politics. Some of the things that don't

00:32:01
make sense. I mean, we could talk all about

00:32:04
like abortion and all these thoughts about like what's

00:32:08
right, what's wrong, marriage, what's, you know, same sex

00:32:12
marriage. Talk about all these other

00:32:15
things that, you know, we obviously are tied to religious

00:32:18
beliefs. We're still going through it

00:32:20
even though it's supposed to not be influenced by religion.

00:32:23
It's still is. And there's a lot of thoughts, a

00:32:26
lot of thoughts that I have about this, all this stuff,

00:32:28
Christianity and stuff, but also Catholics, for example, there's

00:32:33
this, there's this really strong belief in spirits and forces.

00:32:38
So imagine a whole, they have a whole dedicated study for

00:32:42
exorcisms and stuff. Do they know something that we

00:32:44
don't? Who knows?

00:32:47
French Fries says, I believe we all fall into the subliminal,

00:32:49
into subliminal messages throughout life.

00:32:52
I just think it's through TV shows or movies and famous

00:32:55
people we are taught what to like and dislike.

00:32:58
Only a few can see and ignore the messages.

00:33:01
I also believe the colours. I also believe colours have an

00:33:04
impact on people's decisions. But that's just my thoughts.

00:33:06
Great episode by the way. Listen to you at work every

00:33:08
Monday. Thanks a lot French fries.

00:33:12
And this is true. I actually replied to this

00:33:15
comments when I first saw it. Because it's true.

00:33:17
I believe it. Like there's something about

00:33:22
repetition. You can see it once you see it

00:33:24
the first time. You can't Unsee it.

00:33:26
Like the whole when politicians repeat the same word over and

00:33:33
over and over and over. They're trying to make you

00:33:36
believe something. They use the same phrasing.

00:33:40
Even news anchors start using the same phrasing, same words,

00:33:45
same exact way. And we believe that once we see

00:33:50
like there's lots of things probably that at one point were

00:33:54
probably super extreme to you, and then you keep hearing them

00:33:57
over and over and over and now they're normal.

00:34:02
I mean, I know this is not even a an example that's even close

00:34:05
to it, but I always think of like how much I hated sushi when

00:34:08
I first tried it. It just felt so weird.

00:34:10
I was like, I'm eating raw fish with white rice.

00:34:13
Like my family never eats white rice like ever.

00:34:18
And wasabi. I was like what is this?

00:34:20
Was this supposed to be guac? Like is this guacamole?

00:34:23
Is this a guacate? Like is what is this?

00:34:26
It was so weird and I tried the second time and I was just like

00:34:30
like what is this? The texture was weird.

00:34:32
It was cold, not what I'm used to and now I crave it sometimes

00:34:37
I'm just like cool. Same with garlic.

00:34:40
I'm sorry. I mean, now I have proof I'm not

00:34:42
a vampire. I can eat a bunch of garlic like

00:34:45
raw and I'm like how in the with Korean BBQ, you guys, if you

00:34:48
haven't had it. It was funny because during our

00:34:52
live, our live stream, we ended up talking about food for like

00:34:56
an hour and 20 minutes. We were just talking about like

00:34:58
it was supposed to be just like a hangout, whatever.

00:35:00
And then we just started talking about food and Mexican food and

00:35:05
all this other food and favourites and what we recommend

00:35:09
and everything. I was like, I'm so hungry

00:35:11
because right now I'm actually in Vietnam recording this.

00:35:15
I'm far away from all that food, but hopefully I find something

00:35:18
similar. This is why you hear all that

00:35:19
honking. But anyway, see, it's that kind

00:35:21
of thing where like it just felt so extreme that once you repeat

00:35:24
it and you have it in your head over and over and over, it's

00:35:28
just normal. Now.

00:35:29
That's actually how they get through all these really rough

00:35:31
messages. It's actually why it's so

00:35:33
dangerous. Messaging is super, super

00:35:35
dangerous when it's hidden like that because they can get you

00:35:38
believing whatever they want. Will they being the people who

00:35:41
are distributing. So eventually we start believing

00:35:44
in so many things, so many things out there, but just watch

00:35:48
out for all the messaging there. That was a fun episode to me.

00:35:50
It was really creepy though. Listen having to sort through

00:35:52
like reverse versions of like classic rock music or The

00:36:00
Beatles backwards. You start hear, they start

00:36:02
feeling really weird, like you start feeling like what is not

00:36:05
natural. But I did find some additional

00:36:07
words on there for a catalog of hidden messages and songs.

00:36:11
So if you listen to that episode, the subliminal messages

00:36:14
one, go check it out if you haven't yet.

00:36:15
So that's all for today actually for the urban legends.

00:36:19
Now, what other areas should we visit next with our hometown

00:36:24
urban legends story? I am coming up with an episode,

00:36:28
a special episode for Hispanic Heritage Month.

00:36:32
And in this episode, I'm going to be including stories our

00:36:37
parents told us. So what that means is like if

00:36:40
they ever told you anything, for example, this about Maloho, if

00:36:43
they tell you about the cuckoo and what that meant, if they

00:36:47
ever told you something that happened where they're from and

00:36:52
maybe to a grandparent, an aunt and uncle, something like that,

00:36:56
send it in please. I need it for next week.

00:37:00
So if you're listening to this past September 8th, we have

00:37:03
probably we're going to be like at the edge of it.

00:37:06
So like type them all out. If I need more information out

00:37:09
of them, I'll, I'll reply and I'll ask for more.

00:37:12
Let me know if you want it to be anonymous.

00:37:14
If you have only want your first name to be mentioned, usually

00:37:16
it's just first names that I mentioned, but send them in.

00:37:19
The best way is through the contact form at

00:37:21
paranormalclub.com. Second best way or equally the

00:37:25
best way is edwin@scarystory.com.

00:37:28
That's my e-mail. You can also always, always find

00:37:32
any of our contact forms. We can get a hold of it.

00:37:34
So that way we get, we don't miss these stories because I'm

00:37:36
going to be publishing them in this this episode and it's going

00:37:40
to go big. It's going to be a big, heavily

00:37:42
promoted episode. So I'm very excited about it.

00:37:45
I'm also very excited about celebrating Hispanic heritage.

00:37:47
So can we post it on that? Please, please, please, as soon

00:37:51
as you can and we'll get to it. That's all for now.

00:37:54
Thank you so much for sticking around, for listening, for

00:37:57
watching. Keep it scary everyone, see you

00:38:00
soon.