A Mexican Ghost in New Jersey and a Tragic Landslide

Hey everyone, this is Christina. Oh, oh wow, Carmen's burping. Stop don't say that. People don't know that I burp. How everyone, this is Carmen. Sorry, I have a cough drop in my mouth. My children got Carmen sick. Also, yeah, Carmen is on this episode, not MJ. MJ is having technical computer issues with two different devices. So so unfortunate, very unfortunate. And we're recording very last minute because of that. Oh, it's coming out tomorrow. Yes, this is tomorrow's episode. Oh, we are recording the night before. Wow. Yes, So the lovely official no sorry, unofficial official guest co host Carmen is here today. Get it straight. Today we are keeping with the disaster theme because it's been it's been on my mind. Why why Because it's been on my mind. I don't like it. I've been obsessing over it. I need you to stop. I need you to move on to another topic, and actually I will. After this, we're gonna do Gloria Trevi. Oh wow, yeah, so are you free? Yeah? Yeah, yeah cool. I will make myself half time. Good good, yeah, I'm very excited for that. That's gonna be the topic after this one and before we get to the topic and the listener story. I just want to say, it's been amazing seeing everyone share their Spotify wrapped. I love seeing all the different podcasts that people have combined us with. Sometimes there's a lot of other Spooky things and other podcasts that I also love listening to, like or Susto or get Spooky podcasts. Well, you were number five on mine. Oh you didn't show me your list. You're right, I didn't. I forgot. Well, well let's let's bring it out right now. What is it? Let's see? Sorry you forgetting How to get to it? Who lose it? Oh? There it is. You go to your ass up and then you click Onlatina says Spotify raps or something, But then you have to skip through a budget of things to get to the podcast. I accidentally skipped. Uh. What was your your song? Your number one song? It was Carol Gee. Okay, son, that's a good one. My number one song was Lizzo. Truth hurts because the child, My child was assessed with it and he didn't understand. Lizzo was canceled. My top artist was still Bad Bunny, and then it was Cattle Gee, and then it was Taylor Swift. Wow, I'm surprised. It's because I so, I feel like me and Paul don't have that much artists in common except Taylor Swift. He's a Swiftie. He likes Taylor Swift's older songs. I was gonna say, I will be honest, I have not heard any of her new songs. And then now is the number four? Sorry because you wasn't skipping through it. No, it's fine, and I don't know why. I think it's only because you would come up on when I would randomly play like some random and don't play this. But j Baalbin was number five, and I don't like that at all. I know, I know, I don't even like him, and so I'm like, what the hell? Wow, yeah, I don't like That's why I didn't share my top five. We'll cut. That is okay, and that's why we drink. Was number one, mine was two, actually, and that's why we drink. Okay. It's so I spent sixty nine, five hundred and three minutes with podcasts. Damn it. I actually went back. Okay, hold on, that's I regret this question. It's almost done. Okay, there it goes, And that's why we drink five. Four, Save You're Sorry? Oh my Savior Sorry was also in my top five reddit on wiki and it's Bookie tells, Oh my god, why do we have such a similar top five? Okay, mine was my number one was and that's what we drink number two. My child has my phone, so I can't like, Oh, look at I'm trying to remember. I don't remember the order of them anymore. I know Rheitor on wiki was in there. Then Savior sorry was also in there? True or none? True? Oh yeah, I think that's five. Have I only said four? I mean I wasn't counting, and I'm sorry. I don't remember them anymore. I can't check. Oh you didn't say it right out on wiki? I think? Okay, hold on, and that's what we drink right on wiki, Save your Sorry? True and on? That's four. Oh what was the other one? Did you save You're sorry? Yes? Oh? Midnight Burger? Oh oh, I love Midnight Burger. I don't know what that is. I think it told me before I have. It's an it's an audio fiction podcast. It's like a fiction one. I can't do those, I'm sorry. I know some people can't. So yeah, those were our top five. We said them all horribly and we're sorry, but again, I have loved seeing everyone tigers in theirs. Yeah, and it was fun seeing like because as a podcast you get your own list or your own Spotify wrapped. Yeah, it's wild to see all those numbers in one place. So yeah, thank you, thank you everyone. All of that is possible because of you. And also someone asked for the Spooky hotline number for you to actually say it on Spotify. Yeah, they're like, what's the number where we can leave voicemails? So that number is three six zero eight three six four four eight six. And I'll say it again, three six zero eight three six four four eight six. It's always in the show notes, but not everybody looks at those, so yeah, I should start saying it. But also you can attach a voice note to an email that works too, and voice notes attached to an email can be longer the voicemail cuts off like a minute and a half or so. So yeah, if you have stories that you want to send to the podcast, you can email a Spooks at gmail dot com. You can dm us at any of our socials. You can call the number I just shared three six zero eight three six four four eight six. No one's gonna answer. It's gonna go straight to voicemail. Then you can leave your story. Those are options, and here is this one. Hi ladies, I recently found your podcast and I love it. I want to submit my story, but I would also like to be called Trish. You got a Trish Wow twins. When I was about nine or ten, my family lived in the outskirts of my little town. So my house was right by a huge cornfield, and there was a two lane highway right by my house as well. One day, my siblings and I, along with my brother's friend were playing outside and found a big ceramic doll head that had a metal rod sticking out underneath the head. Oh god, that sounds terrifying. My brother and his friend decided to get a red sharply marker and color the eyes red so it would look evil. The rod wasn't enough, okay no, and also the single head, the head by itself, Yeah, that wasn't enough. The eyes that needed to be red. My brother and his friend thought it would be a good idea to turn the doll into a Ouiji board of sorts. They started to ask the doll questions. They would drop the doll, and if the answer was yes, the doll would stick up the ground so like they would drop it, and if it landed up right, it was a yes, which they made up these parameters you could say, and if the answer was no, it would drop sideways. I can't remember every question, but the one question I remember was are you going to hurt someone? As my brother dropped the doll, the head stuck in the dirt. The next thing I know, a red truck crashed into the cornfield by my house. Now some people might think it's a coincidence, but I know whoever they were communicating with was an evil spirit. Luckily, the older couple that was driving the truck was okay, but their vehicle was damaged. I was so terrified after that happened. I didn't leave my mom's side that whole day after the incident happened, and my brother and his friend destroyed the doll head and we never spoke of the incident again. That happened thirty years ago, and I still remember I have never participated in anything like that since that day. Thank you for reading my email, and I hope you feature my story on your podcast. Well you got it. Trish, I have two recommendations for scary shows that I watched religiously. The shows are Paranormal Caught on Camera, which I'm talk okay, I was like, what have you talked about that? Love? We also had someone who had their story on Paranormal currently I don't remember that, oh episodes ago and it was like below fifty. She her video was like her baby was in the crib and was like caught talking to someone, but you could hear a voice God. Paranormal call on camera and these woods are hunted. Both shows are on the Travel Channel. Smiley face. Uh yes, thanks Trish. Uh that was creepy. I don't know what would what would possess you to grab a doll that look like that? I would ever no, and yeah if it was a coincidence, a strange coincidence indeed. M Also sorry for my voice. I'm still sick. No, sorry, I'm sick again. Uh yeah, also me Carmen too. Yeah, but your voice sounds better than mine. I think I have a better immune system, just kidding, because I don't have children. Well, you got the illness for my children, So I do think you have a better immune system than me. Because I was dying. So yeah, thanks Tri Chigan for your story. Very creepy and okay, onto the episode topic. As I told you, Carmen, I'm still obsessed with disasters and I'm over it, but this one's not as bad. Although MJ wrote notes for this episode which Karmen's gonna read, and thank you MJ for your notes. Yeah, thank you. Uh so heard that that is worse tragic tragedy than the one I have. Actually, do you want to go first? Do I go first? I could go first. Yeah, let's get over the worst one first. Okay, all right, so again, thank you MJ for these notes, and let's get on with it. So while many people were paranoid and terrified of the world ending once the New Millennium began on January first, two thousand, White two k sorry White, Okay, it never happened, but it was a different story for the people of Vadagas, Venezuela, who most likely felt like the world was ending. And I feel like it sounds so stuffy, So I'm so sorry people. You suddenly sound more sick. Yeah it's acause I keep reading. I sound worse. Yeah right now. I sounded normal before I started the episode, but then the more you talk, I think, the more your voice gets. Like that's how that was at work today and I told my intern, I'm like, I'm sorry, I haven't talked as much and my throat hurts. Yeah. Yeah, that's what ends up happening. Okay, back to this. Yeah. You see, as the world was preparing to bring in the new year, the state of Vadagas was hit with a torrential rainfall that triggered deadly floods and mudslides over the course of ten days that eventually killed about ten percent of the population once everything was over. And wow, that's a lot, it is. The rain first began early December nineteen ninety nine. As the days went on, a total of nine hundred eleven millimeters of rain hit the area, which is about as much rain as the area was used to getting throughout one entire year. That is a lot. Yeah, my god, So ten days they got what they normally get in one year. On the sixteenth alone, seventy two millimeters of rain accumulated in one hour alone, from six am to seven am. Wow. The large amounts of rainfall pounding the state created widespread soil instability and debris flow. Debris. You don't pronounce us huh debris? Yeah, you don't. You pronounces yeah. And even though mostly everyone was aware that the area was prone to mudslides and flooding, the disaster happened in December instead of May through October, which is considered the country's rainy season, so many locals were caught off guard. Makes sense. As the remain continued to come down, large debris flows that carried large boulders and tree trunks rapidly hit several highly populated towns and cities out of velocity rate that scientists have estimated was about three point three to fourteen point five meters per second. Wow. These fast moving debris flows destroyed tall buildings, bridges, electric poles, and roads at the end, entire towns like Sero Grande and Garmin de Uria. Carmen, Oh, Cadman, No, this is said. Sorry, that was unnecessary. This is a tragic event. Yikes. They were completely wiped out. Oh my god, that's terrible, and the entire states infrastructure collapsed. This is horrible. About ten thousand to thirty thousand people are believed to have lost their lives, even though officials cannot be sure of the number since the countries they're not have reliable census data at the time. Oh my god. A thousand bodies were eventually recovered, and the other bodies are believed to have either been swept into the sea or buried under the landslides. Wow. About eight thousand homes and seven hundred apartment buildings were destroyed, displacing up to seventy five thousand people. Wow. The state's infrastructure failure led to a food, water, and medicine shortage that forced the government to bring in the military for help and triggered martial law in the area for about a year so that officials could help evacuate residents and stop widespread looting. Initially, Venezuela's president Ugochavis accepted the international help of any country willing to help with response efforts, and agreed to allow the US to send four hundred and fifty marines and naval engineers. But just before arriving in Venezuela, so I was changed his mind and decided to decline the offer because I'm sure that this is not far that notes, this is just me. I'm sure the United States was just looking for a reason or reason to have military there. Yeah, they actually, I think, what the hell was I listening to? Was it the latest Geopolitical Yeah? No, sorry, I was listening to an episode of Empire Files, And there's an episode where the guy debunks John Oliver's. John Oliver dedicated a whole special of his show Eachbo Tonight or whatever it's called to like Venezuela things. But he got like a bunch of things wrong, and so then Empire Files went and like debunked everything. He said. I don't think I listened to that, but I think it was. It was an episode of Geopolitical Economy, and I just don't remember which one, but he talks about how the United States will often use an excuse as of aid of sending aid to actually send military. Yeah. Yeah, it's a thing. It's a thing, for sure, So I do not blame yeah. Instead, the country accepted help from other nations and raised several million dollar from international organizations and charities. Eventually, the refugees of Vadagas returned to the state to attempt to rebuild their homes themselves. It took several years, but by two thousand and six the population and Vadagas was similar to that population the state had before the disaster, Yet the state still struggled as it solely rebuilt its infrastructure. The disaster has even been labeled the second most fatal landslide in history according to Guinness World Record Wow Records World Records, because there's merely one record right. One man was even quoted saying, if an apocalypse exists, this was the worst. I saw people get dragged by the waters as they yelled for help. I still have nightmares about it, and that wakes me up at night. Oh I'm sorry, nightmares about it. That wake me up at night, right right. Kadimin de Uria was one of the talents that was impacted by the landslides the most. The town was completely destroyed and labeled a camposanto, which is a place where you lay the dead to rest. Currently, about three hundred people inhabit the town, and it's surrounded by several crosses that were laid to honor and mark those who died during the tragedy. Many people who live in the town today say they have a hard time sleeping because at now you hear and feel the english of many people who died during the tragedy. Others say they hear voices screaming at night or the sounds of water levels rising. There's also a church in the impacted area had said that many people who were taking shelter inside were dragged by the flood of waters, but the temple withstood the damage, and when everything was said and done, mostly everything was destroyed except the holy statues. What about the people? Yeah, what about the people? Overall? Many people who live in these towns in the state of Vodga's all report hearing disembodied voices and cries at night. Oh wow, yeah, yeah. Welcome to our Hunted Break. 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If you cannot support us monetarily, then you are not missing now on anything. The best support that you can give us is just listening to our episodes here, So thank you for doing that. Okay, so my own is not as sad as that one, although it is a disaster crash turned into a hunting. This one's a little different because it's a Mexican ghost hunting New Jersey. Wow. Yes, yes, But before getting into the hunting and Lolan, of course, I have to tell you about the pilots turned gost after a terrible accident. So Capitan or Captain Emilio Caranza Rodriguez was born December ninth, nineteen oh five in Villa Ramos Arispe, Guaguila, Mexico. He was a famous Mexican pilot and a national hero. His father worked at the Mexican Consulate in New York, which is why Emilio spent time in San Antonio, at Paso al Paso and Sidad, Mexico as a child, and he spoke fluent English. Because of that. He graduated from the Military Academy of Mexico City in nineteen twenty four with high honors, and that same year he married Maria Luisa Gorbala. And he is also the nephew great nephew of former President Venusiano Caranza. Okay, and he did some military stuff. I'm not gonna get into that because honestly, this kind of bores me. So yeah, he did some stuff in the military as well. And he also set a bunch of records, flying records, pilot records. You know. He made the first NonStop flight from Sudan, Mexico to s Juarez, and this was a total of one thousand, two hundred miles, so he was the first to that. Wow. Then four years later, in nineteen twenty eight, at only age twenty two, he set the record for the third longest non stop flight ever. Wow, you said twenty two? He was twenty two. Yeah. Wow. He went from San Diego to Mexico City, which is a total of one thousand, five hundred and seventy five miles and this was the longest NonStop flight by a Mexican. Wow. Yeah, so he's putting Mexico on the map. Yes, Sipe. His record breaking feats did not all go smoothly. During one of his attempts, he crashed in Sonora and his face had to be reassembled with platinum screws. EWI. That didn't stop him. His accomplishments made him just as well known as other famous pilots, like the American Ameliar Heart, the American Charles Lindberg. What did you say, Amelia your Heart? Oh yeah, she's the only pilot I know. She is the only pilot I recognized, the only American pilot I recognize. Yes. And Tom Hanks he's a pilot. No, he was in that movie playing the pilot who planted was like a drug. Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, I don't remember his name, but I remember Tom Hanks. Okay, yeah, Well do you recognize the name Charles Lindberg? No? Okay, so I guess I'll get a little bit into who too. Charles Lindberg is because some people might recognize the name, but not everyone does. I do, but for different reasons, not because of he was a pilot, but because of the case of the Lindberg baby. Does that sound familiar to you? No, we'll I'll get into both. So Charles Lindberg was a famous American pilot and military officer. He was the first to fly nonstuff from New York City to Paris. Wow, which is a lot of miles m hm. And he was the first to fight alone for thirty three point four hours. Ever, that was like his record he set. He also completed what's called a good will tour in Latin America. During this good will tour, he stopped in Mexico, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Coca Parma, Co, Columbia, Venezuela, Perto Rico, the Dominican Republic, Haiti, and Cuba, just to name a few places. Wow. Oh well, speaking of on Ludas, my music taste was similar to people in some town in Holudas. Wow. What about yours? Do you remember? I don't remember. It was somewhere in the US though, because my well, let me explain to you. I had Spotify where Kyle had a playlist that was his, but we didn't have it split as a premium duo. Oh so like a lot of his songs got saved as like that's why I listened to the most. My god, I could never share mine, yeah, never share, So my top songs were like those were mine. So it was like truth Herds, hmmm, this know the product Biza rap song, and then Shakira and bizar rap and then like and hefe by Shakira oh, and then Misery Business by Paramore. But then my most listened to genres all got mixed with his, which is like a lot of rock and like I don't know emo music. I don't know what the genre is. I can't remember rock. Is this the rock? I don't know? But anyway, so I got like, your tastes are similar to like this town in somewhere in the like East Coast. Oh wow. And it was all because he listened to like Shine Down Cohen and Cambria, Rise Against and those That's what So it's not my reel. It's not real for me, you know, I see. Yeah, it doesn't reflect you. It doesn't reflect me, No, not at all. Anyway, Yeah, back to this, how did this happen? Oh, because he's just speaking of abunacyes. Yeah, sorry, So yeah, Charles en Burg decorated a well known famous American pilot. But if you don't know him from his pilot stuff, he is well known because of the Lindbergh kidnapping. So and this might bring a bell on a few people. But this happened in nineteen thirty two, and it was the crime of the century as what like it was like a media circus. Wow. On March first, nineteen thirty two, his twenty two month old baby, Charles Augustus Lindberg Junior, was taken from his crib and he was kidnapped for ransom and the ransom money was given, but he wasn't They couldn't find him. There was a wide search for this baby. It went on for a while, and it was in until May twelfth. Then the baby's remains were found in the woods right by their house. Oh wow, and it was him all along. No, there was a kidnapper name. Oh sorry, I'm sorry, please, I didn't mean it well, the way I wrote it didn't doesn't make it obvious. The kidnapper turned out to be Richard Hotman, who was arrested because he was found paying things with those ransom bills the ransom money, and then they searched his house they found the rest of the ransom money. He went to trial. Of course, he was found guilty because he was and then he was executed on April third, nineteen thirty six. Oh wow, but that is a little bit about Charles Lindbergh, who was an inspiration for Emilio Carnzar Rodriguez so much so that he set out to fly the same route that Charles Lindbergh did. Oh my god, Well it was Mexico City to a specific place in the United States. That was the flight that Charles Linberg had done before San Diego. Oh maybe it was, oh maybe it was New York City. It wasn't like the record breaking one. It was like just one of his routes they had done. And this so it's gonna be like a good will flight. And what a good wolf flight? Like a flight that is like for good a good cause, like publicity, Okay, to put the country's name out there. Oh so Charlesenburg himself donated for this flight and Emilio Caranza received a brand new plane called the Mexico Excelsior Wow. The majority of the funding for this, it came from Mexico themselves, like the public. They raised twenty five thousand dollars. Charles Nburg contributed like two thousand dollars something like that. And it was going well because it's it's like a tour, so they'll fly and stop in the city, fly and stop in the city, and that's what he did. It was going well. Everywhere he stopped in the US, he was met by a crowd of people. During this tour. He was given a key to New York City by the mayor. Firefighters gave him a medal. Troops greeted him at West Point. There was a whole field dedicated to him in Massachusetts, like a bunch of good stuff. And then when he was in New York City, he got delayed returning to Mexico. The weather was so bad that he stayed in New York City. And according to legend, on July twelfth, Emilio Krenzi received a telegram from one of the Mexican military like leaders or whatever, and he was demanding Emilio to return to Mexico or his manhood would have been questioned, what why, like, what what does that mean? Like he needs to fly back and stop being a little bit basically, oh, because the weather was bad. Because the weather was being bad. Yeah, oh okay, Okay, this turns out to be false. It's just part of the legend, which makes it all worse. Right, So he wasn't act told that. No, no, this didn't happen. Oh okay. And so during a break between thunderstorms, Emilio decided to leave New York City instead of waiting for all of it to be over. No one knows why he didn't wait longer. He wasn't being rushed back like you know the legend tells. But he left. He told everyone he was going to fly toward Washington, d C. And that was going to be his like next stop or something like that. And so while he was flying, flying over the pilants of New Jersey, he crashed into the woods. When he was found the and I'm going to explain this because when I read I was like, what the hell does that mean? Okay, So the engine throttle was closed and the spark lever was in the advanced position of course, yes, yeah, yes, very much. Yeah, very much. So, yeah, this just means he attempted to land before crashing. Okay, Yeah, there was a man named John H. Carr who was picking berries and they with his family and they came across the crash site and Emilio Caranza. How unfortunate to be picking berries and then come up to that. Yeah, right, So they found him and they went, you know, over to tell police, and they retrieved him. And he crashed because of the weather because of how bad it was. He couldn't see. And these are not like fancy planes like now, these were the nineteen thirties, so I don't even think planes had like a proper light or he just didn't have one, because apparently he had a flashlight that and that's how he was trying to see. Oh my god. Yeah. So Emilia Kranza's casket was draped with American flag. This flag still hangs in the Mexico School of Aviation. His casket was transported to Mexico via train and he was transported to the train station with full military honors, like ten thousand troops marched to the train station to say goodbye to his body to deliver it to Mexico. Two hundred thousand people lined up to watch him as he left, which I don't know pilots were such a big deal, Like, I mean, I didn't know that either. This is not a thing today obviously, because planes were barely like yeah, I mean it makes sense, I guess because not everybody. Yeah, there was only so much planes back then, or so many planes, yeah, right, exactly. In Mexico, the national flags were flown at half staff. They received the body. He was buried in the Lota Cemetery in Suda, Mexico. During the procession, one hundred thousand Mexicans marched to where he was going to be buried, and he was promoted to general after his death. In nineteen twenty nine, the United States delivered a pine tree from the crash site, and that tree was planted next to his grave, and I don't know if it's still there. In nineteen thirty one, there was a monument to Emrio Kranza that was built in the Wharton State Forest in New Jersey where the trash took trash bad where the took place. And every year there's a little ceremony in his honor. Over the years, it's less and less people go because I think less and less people know about him. Yeah, but at the beginning it was full of people. And the monument itself is in obelisk looking statue. There is an image of an Aztec eagle on one side, an arrow pointing to the sky on the other side, and then there's the words messenger of peace, the people of Mexico hope that your high ideals will be realized homage of the children of Mexico to the aviator Captain Emilio Caranza, who died tragically on July thirteenth, nineteen twenty eight in his good wilf flight. And then on the other side there are footprints that are supposed to like show his last final footsteps. It was built in Mexico and then it was sent to New Jersey, and the site where the crash happened and where the monument can be found is said to be hunted. It also happens to be the same woods that the Jersey Devil has been seen. Have you heard that story? I think I have. I'm sure you have, like and that's why We Drink has covered it, and a bunch of paranormal podcasts I think they have at least and see why they wouldn't have. I don't know. Yeah, I did listen. It was like one of the earlier episodes. I think I'm pretty sure about the Jersey Devil, right right, So according to legend, if you flash your car lights three times at the monument and yell Emilio, you will hear the plane and see Emilio Kranza's final flashlight signal from right before he crashed. Wow. And I found three creepy encounters from where the monument is at. I found the first two at WEIRDNJ dot com MJ. It's like an n like New Jersey n sorrye, not like MJ. And then the last one on Reddit. So here's the first one. There's an intensely frightening place not too far from Southampton. It has been called Karana for as long as I remember for reasons. I don't know pass story. We do know it, yes, yes, because of the pilot. So because of this episode. You know, not that this prison's listening, I mean it would be there. They are maybe they Okay, so let me go on. Now. It is a long road and there is a juvenile detention center that's about halfway down the road. After that, there's nothing just the woods all the way back there. There's some memorial for a fallen military pilot. It is so haunted. There's something in the back trails that has left us running to our car faster than then we even thought we could run. If you stand on top of the memorial site, it's even more creepy. It's about seven to eight feet off the ground. I have pictures from people with the fog around them on top of the stone. I was once up there. After taking some pictures, I went to get off. I slipped and fell. I grabbed on by the tips of my fingers. I felt something catch me, though no one did. I shouldn't have been able to hold myself up, but I did. Seems like a nice thing, honestly. Yeah, I don't know what else. It sounds like they say, you do you, thank you, Emilio, gracias, Emilio, Yeah, you saved Albert B. That's who wrote that comment. The Nada Alberto. Well, no, this isn't in the United States. So this is Albert, the Nada Albert. Okay, So the next one, this is from local Kitty. Okay, it's they spelled local like four locos. The k the k M H perhaps as an ode to the four loco could be. As the local lore goes, if you park your car at the gate, flash the headlights on the memorial three times, and yell Emilio. I don't know why I have to yell it like that, Emilio at the window, you will see his plane. Of course, we have to try it. We followed the instructions. At about ten minutes later, my friend's car stalled for no reason. We threw it in drive and began rolling out there. She kept asking us what the lights were behind us. My other friend turned around and saw nothing. It was a media She swore she saw lights in the rear view mirror. We figured she was just trying to scare us, but suddenly we saw them too. They were too high to be card lights and too low to be a plane. Needless to say, she dropped the hammer, and what does that mean? She dropped the hammer and we got out of there as fast as possible. She lost her shit. I don't know. I don't know she dropped the subject or was she? I don't know. Sorry, this is one of those sayings that we just don't know. I guess it's a New Jersey thing or an American thing. I don't know I had. Yeah. I think it's just like an American saying, because we didn't know a lot of them. Yeah yeah, because englishas were second language. Okay, And this other one is the one I found on Reddit. And this was posted by Oh it's deleted. Actually I don't know who posted it. But it was posted two years ago on the Creeping Counters of Reddit, and it's titled I Will never go back there again. And in their post they never said where they were at, and then in the comments they were like, oh, this is the God on Time Memorial in New Jersey. Oh, okay, it's never said in the story, but later they clarified it. So this is quite long, so buggle up parentheses worth it all caps. Before my best friends and I were separated, one passed away rip and the other moved away. We used to ride around doing all of the haunted legend places within reasonable driving distances. Sounds fun, right way to make memories. Sometimes we drive a few hours, but most of them weren't scary other than the adrenaline field hyped up. Did you hear that? Did you see that? That would cause us to get spooked? This one was different way different. We were just out of high school, probably twenty at most, and we were looking for an actually scary place to visit. A lot of the people we knew were getting into these kinds of things, so we'd always get tips on where to go. There was the original three of us That day, I had another friend that wanted to tag along. After a little drive to Regestination about forty five minutes, we stopped to get gas and grab a few snacks. Like I stated earlier, we were all about twenty, all hyped up because we knew spooky time was getting close. We'd always pick on the other friend that tagged along, nothing harsh, just things like, ah, you're scared. So I believe it was me that said something along those lines that was overheard by other people at the gas station. It got the attention of a few people in the gas station, including the two creepy older guys who seemed like they didn't fit in their clothes, were all beat up and dirty, and they just didn't seem right for the area. Okay, so what you hate about Reddit? Okay? Sorry, yeah, no, you're right. It was probably eight pm on a Saturday night. What's the little one scared? Of, asked one of the guys who talks like that. Nobody, Okay, go on, sorry, I say little because the three of us are probably abnormally tall. The shortest between us three was six ' four, and he was normal height, like five ' nine the little one, what flo do we want scared of? What's the baby scared of? Went? Do we do? Baby scared? We replied and explained how we got tipped to go to this road because it's haunted. They replied that it wasn't that scary, and that if we wanted real scared, we should go to this other random road. I forget what it was called exactly, but apparently there's this random memorial statue for a plane crash in the middle of the woods that crazy things are supposed to happen at. We grabbed our stuff and didn't think anything of it. As soon as we left, the group started talking. We grabbed our stuff and didn't think anything of it. As soon as we left, the groups started talking and decided to go with the other road that those guys hyped up. I know, a typical horror movie what not to do. So we get to the entrance of the road and it already did not disappoint woods on both sides, not one damn street light in sight, and I remember there was like a detention center off to the right in the middle of nowhere. So the spooks already began. The second we hit the entrance. We decided to drive down the road and search for the statue. We noticed that there were trees cut down on the side of the road and laying parallel to the shoulder of the road. We finally did find the statue. About five minutes go by of silence, and we decided to enhance the scare factor by shutting the lights off. About a minute goes by and we see a shadow figure pop out from the statue. We all freak out as it starts walking towards us, but it was making movements that no human would normally be capable of. It was dark out, but this thing was black. It was darker than the woodsy sky, darker than the night, darker than the night itself. I was gonna say, why does this sound familiar? Because what does sound familiar? It's a movie title in Spanish Negro. Oh yeah, yeah, it a mas negroclace. This thing was huge. Like I said earlier, we were all extremely large compared to the five nine guy, but this thing would have dwarfed any of us. We decided to peel out of there and continue down the road, figuring out it would lead us out of there. We were wrong. About three minutes go by and we hit a dead end, which in this case was an open shot in the woods with sand everywhere. The cutout was massive, but surrounded by woods. There was different cutouts and waste to go from there, and I'm pretty sure the road continued after this cutout, but we were pretty deep in the woods at this point. We decided to turn around and leave. After we turned around, we just stopped to take in the eenery feeling. The other three guys were talking about the shadow we saw earlier, while I happened to catch something out of the corner of my eye. About forty feet away from me, I see what appears to be a white face, and then another and another, all surrounding the car. The other guys didn't see them. I rarely get scared, but they saw me panic and they knew something was up. My panic caused them to panic. We're all panicing, know. We then flowed far away from the sand. Turnaround, we get about half a mile down the road, kind of near the statue and pull over to gather our composure to get out of there. When we stopped, I swear we heard the typical goes oOoOO sound. This was now turning into a movie I wish I was never a part of. We were really scared. After finding the way we came, we started heading back out. Remember those trees I talked about earlier, they were now laying in the middle of the road, blocking us, as well as the white faces that I saw earlier. Thank god, one of my friends was a good at driving and valued safety over his car. We drove on the edge of the woods. We felt like we were defying gravity to speed our way out. The car was literally sideways on the edge of the woods. I mean I could stick my finger out the window and touch trees. We all made it home safely that night. After doing research, we found out that Spout was a notorious for crazy things like bodies and murders. Oh, I haven't found that information Because of the shadow and the ghost noise we heard. My head, heart and gut tells me that that place is actually haunted. As previously stated, it's famous for dumping bodies along with that plane crash that happened, so there's bound to be some spirits there. I think where we were that night was actually haunted. We just happened to be there on a night where there was more things going on. I can help but think the evil looking shadow from the statue was actually an angel in disguise, trying to scare us away from the doom that was upon us. I can't say for certain, but I'm ninety nine percent sure we survived one of their setups that night. I'm one hundred percent sure I will never go back again. I got chills just sapping this. I never tell the story. There were four of us there. One took our story to the grave, and I'm sure the rest of us won't speak much about it either. Whenever we bring it up in front of people, we always use the code thmtw so that we don't have to actually talk about it t hmtw. Of course, ask for the horror movie that wasn't Wow, But yeah, I mean it was long, but yeah, and I'm sorry, I'm like sick. I'm much retired, I think. And then I was like a little bit like, oh were you You're not paying attention but it wasn't because the story. It wasn't because the story was boring. It's because I'm sick. Also, it's because people are ready to write too much. So it was just automatically tuning out. Oh, I'll give you like a tld R. Well, I got the okay gist of it, Like they think that something was saving them from the other scarier ghost. And I would believe that's true because I feel like, I mean, you wouldn't want to hurt anybody. Yeah, I think that was a medio I do. But yeah, excusing Carmen's rudeness. What a creepy story. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Oh man, but yeah, I guess those are today's stories. In the unexpected turn of events, I covered something in the United States because it's a Mexican ghost. Oh you know what. I just thought that Emilio being here just goes to show that there are no borders. Oh my god. Oh yeah. And so it's like, you don't he transcended the bard, Yeah you don't too. Yeah, And occasionally Juga he said, wait, it's not the Youuga. I can't believe you're just let you Yes, there has been signing some of the latusa in Texas in California. I'm sorry, your brain's not working anymore, I said it. I'm like, that's wrong. Every time I talk about the litusa on tiktoks, someone's like, I used to call it litchuga and I'm like, really it, But now I see it. Now I see it because you just did it and that just just Butcha things, you know, hashtag just butcher things. Yeah, because we've established we're not Yeah, yeah, I guess because we reached the end of the topics, I will talk about this. I bought the the famous one on TikTok and it was too easy for us. Yeah. I really thought that our brother was going to be a no kid, because he kind of was when he was younger. Yeah, but his Spanish has gotten better, so yeah, yeah, I want to play it with people that are actually because that sounds more fun. So yeah, if you're a game but yeah out there, don't get the game. We need a new game, a harder game we called just butcher things or something. Anyway. Yeah, I just wanted to randomly say that, oh my god, oh my god, not again. Carbon records with her door open and every time her husband walks by in the hallway. She gets scared. It happened too much. But yeah, thank you Carmen for filling in. TWA's a pleasure. Sorry everyone that we both sound sick. Yeah, it is Christina's fault. It is it is my children's fault. Yes, before we go, Do you have any speaky recommendations? Well, I've been rewatching Supernatural. Oh god, I love Dean. Stop which one is Dean? Dean is the hot one, obviously with the dark hair. They both have brown hair. No, they both have dirt. They have brown hair. I don't like dirty blonde hair, and the other one had brown hair. No, I want to say it's serious. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Are you serious? What's what's his name? Jensen Acles? Another one? Actually don't know his name. That's like dirty blonde hair. Are you serious? Yes? Oh I thought it was brown. No, I feel like in the show looks brown. I'm looking at it and it looks dirty blonde to me. Let me see, maybe it's brown. It's brown. I just saw a picture right now. Image. I guess maybe he puts highlights in his hair. Oh, I guess it's like light brown. Look, it's dark brown. Okay, that is dark, but the pictures I was just looking at it all looks lighter than that. Oh I think he probably does have lighter hair. Or it was the two thousands, you know, everybody had his bleaching their hair. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Okay, so you've been watching rewatching Supernatural anyway, he's the hot one, and I've been rewatching Supernatural. Oh okay, see look they both have brown hair. I never finished watching that show because I don't watch I don't ever watch all of it. I always all just rewatch up until a certain point because it just gets ridiculous at one point. Okay, okay, it kind of is like that along the way, but it's too much afterwards. But I like watching it. It's like silly, but it's Some episodes are scary, especially the earlier ones, because they're actually like haunting or hunting. Yeah, I think I saw episode it's like the Woman in White I think the first one. Yeah, that's the first one. Where is the Bloody Mary? I don't remember, no, no, no, it's like Lady in White slash. But the Bloody Mary episode always scared me too, because I think that's like the one legend that scared me as a kid, bloody Mary. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you were a scaredy cat. I'm just kidding. All of them did, but but that one was scary. That beisode. I remember, like I would watch it, honestly though, I remember having almost a few well almost like panic attacks from people, yes, closing the door in the bathroom and then turning the lights off and just forcing you into a bloody marry situation, like panicking trying to get out, And I would not open my eyes because I'm not going to see anything. I'm not the one, you know, my because I can open my eyes. You're right, You're right, chantee nothing maybe opening your eyes, that's true, that's true. And I don't know. I just like I like watching it, and then I like all the different monsters that come up later. But what I don't like is when it gets too much with the whole habit and held with apocalypse thing. Oh yeah, so that's when I stopped watching, okay, and then when they come back from the dead, Yeah that sounds Yeah, this is pretty insane. Yeah. Do I watch well because it's scene is hot for the most part. Yeah, oh okay, and that's why I need some prime to watch him on the Boys he's on The Boys. Yeah, and like season two, I think, not the first one, but like the newers. I'm not gonna lie. I started like he was better now that he's older. Okay, sorry, I'm just talking about him now. Yeah. I started watching The Boys season two and then it was just too much for me. I was like, I can't really yeah, because I mean I don't even know the spoiler, because you like spoilers, and because it's done for a while, so I feel like, whoever's gonna watch it, it has already seen it. Right episode and if you have children, know you fast forward through this. The first episode in the second season has this guy who has the superpower to shrink himself, and he shrinks himselves and goes into the penis of another guy and then he's climbing up and then he they have the other guys have a thing that can make him bigger, and they make him bigger, and he explodes while inside the penis of this other guy, and that guy dies, and then there's a lot that's like uh X rated at man, Oh my god, Yeah, that's exactly what it was. And after that, I was like, I don't know how we feel about this. Yeah, that is a little much. I just want to see him. But yeah, if you can get through that and get if you want to get Amazon Prime, not sacrifice anything to see genst Eckles ackles, Oh yeah, I don't know not I I can't though I don't have Amazon Primes. Oh that's true my speaking recommendation. Before Carmen cuts me off again. Oh, I keep talking about Gensit. Yeah, I watched because of TikTok. I came across these clips of a little girl and not a little girl, a teenager in high school, and like, in the clip that I saw on TikTok, oh, it's the thing you're telling me about the other thing. Yeah. Yeah. In the clip that I sound TikTok, she's like talking to people and nobody's saying nobody's recognizing her, nobodys saying hi. She's going through the hallway like oh hi, guys, like nobody says anything. They're like, did you hear something? At first, it sounds like she's being shunned. People are just being mean to her. But then not even the teachers are recognizing her, and I'm like, what's happening? What is this? So then I look looked for it, and it's this show called Class of nineteen seventy on YouTube. The episodes are like fifteen minutes song because it's a YouTube show. It turns out that this girl is a ghost and she died in the school and she's like nobody that's why nobody can see her. And then students years later, one of them happens to be like more connected to the supernatural, and they are the ones who finally hear her, and so then they're trying to help her move on. That's pretty good. The acting's a little cheesy if you can get past that, because you could tell some of the kids first time acting. But even then it's it's not bad. It was good. I do you recommend him interesting? Class of nineteen seventy Yeah? Cool, cool, Okay, now this is this actually brings us to the end of the episode. Do you have anything to plug? You know? I do. Me and Christina have two other podcasts. If you like novellas and you like Cheese May and you like Teresa, because that is the novella we have been watching forever, then you can check out Novelas Coversito, where we rewatch the tell novelas, only it's only Teresa right now of our childhood slash adolescent and talk shit about the episode as we recap them. And then we have occasional cheese make go covasito segments where we just you know, bring up some gossip old or new. Yes, yes, yes, all cheese may is a prograbs yes, yes, And and then we have a history podcast because I was gonna keep talking about yeah and then yeah, we also have a history podcast where we talk about Latin American history, stories about resistance, stories that are horrible, bar racism, genocide, things like that, also powering community. Yes, yes, yes, yes, anyah, Latin American history. So if you're into all things Latine not all things history, then check that out. Yes history, yeah yeah. And if you want to look for things that you did and learn that you're like, what the hell didn't I learn that in school? Yeah? Or things to get mad about. Who doesn't like getting mado both yeah and yeah. Thank you Carmen again for filling in for MJ. Everyone else. Thank you again for sharing your Spotify wrapped and email us your spooky stories at Spooky does at email dot com. 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