Haunted Metro and the Cannibal Poet of Mexico City

Hi everyone, This is Christina and Carmen and this is Spooky Tells, the podcast for all things as Spooky, And yes, that's right, our unofficial official guest co host Carmen has so kindly filled in for MJ as a reminder she's going to be filling in for MJ mental like Dando January and yeah, let's send m j r Best best wishes. I was gonna say, well wishes. Why was I going to say that too? Wow? Because we're twins. Well, because best wishes, warmest regards like a shit's creek. Oh yeah, you know, I almost think you have a new cold. Sometimes when you're sick, then there's like opportunistic little viruses waiting for their chance because your immune seems already down. Then they pounce. I was just hoping it was the same one because then it wouldn't mean I'm not sick again. I'm just still sick. It's hard to turns to tell, but I think it's a new cold. Yeah, everything's going around, you know. What's so funny. Once in a while there's tweets that are like, everyone's sick and no one's testing positive for COVID? What is it? And I'm like, do they remember before COVID, everyone was always sick around this time of the year. Yeah. I was gonna say, please, it's not something mysterious. There's rhinovirus, there's RSV, there's the flu, there's COVID, and there's other common cold, a regular cold. Yeah, viruses. It's probably one of those many viruses. That doesn't mean it's COVID and it's not some secret conspiracy, Like you're just sick and then people that have already had COVID are more prone to getting sick more because your immune system sucks. But yeah, anyway, we're not talking about that today. We're carbon sick. That's why I wrote it up. We are talking about see that Mexico. Wow, we have a hunted hunted metro stories from that Mexico and I have a terrible true crime case as well. Wow. Great. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Carmen is gonna be telling the spooky story, the spooky story, and I'm going to be telling the true crime story. You might have heard it before, Carman, we'll see when I started. Okay, but first we have a listener story. So if you have a story that you want to send into the podcast, You can email at Spooky toes at email dot com. You can send us a DM on any of our socials. You can attach a voice note to the email. You can also call the a Spooky hotline. That number is in the show notes. This was sent in via email. All right, and here it goes. First of all, you two are the best. I have such bad anxiety some days at work and I'll just put on your podcast and I am calmed down and laughing with you. I happen to love your rants and off topics stories because that is how my mind is too amazing. It's like I found my people. Ha ha ha ha. She's Mosa Sportovida. Way back in nineteen eighty nine, my cousin and I were driving down Carpenter Road towards Patterson what two o nine. It was dark and late and that road is only two lanes. We saw a light coming at us. It was kind of high up, but not flying above the orchards that were on each side of the road. It was just above our car, heading right at us, super bright, and then gone, no noise, no light, no plane, no car, just our dark road. Again. I always thought aliens, but she always thought crop duster. What crop I don't know what a crop duster is? Crop duster? Should we look it up? Let's interrub this story, because that like farm equipment. Maybe crap duster. Oh it's a plane that drops uh, fertilizer or pesticides. Oh all right, let's see. I also texted my other cousin that still lives in Patterson. He lives in a house that has a ghost. His mom told us when we were little, She says, she yelled at him at the ghost. She thinks the ghost is an Australian man who built the house. Okay, that's very specific. Yoh by Australian. Oh my god. Okay does she know because a ghosts. Instead of saying no, it says an r. The ghost was fighting a crocodile. It was the ghost of Steve. Steve Irwin. Yeah, I can remember his name in the two nine and random the house on Patterson Road. Okay, so she thinks the ghost is an Australian man who built a house. She yelled at it that this is a Christian house and you are not wanted here. Yes, my aunt is a scary Christian woman, she said. He stays in the basement. I'll ask him what kind of stories he has. I told him to start listening to your podcast. Oh, thank you. We love a recommendation. Right. My friend Lexi is from Adesto, but we met and San Diego, where we both live. She was lucky enough to tour the Whaley House at night. I volunteered at the Whaley House in Old Town San Diego every year for the Yellos Mortos. I always built the altar for the Whaleys in the yard to their house. The last time I volunteered, the upstairs window just flew out into little pieces all over the yard like someone just went through it. Oh my god, except no one was upstairs. Wow. All the employees were like, yep, you guys just saw something. Thank you for bringing spooky to the world. I'll send a message when my cousin gets back to me. Shout out to nine, shout out. I did reply. This was this was email in October begging it of October, and so I emailed at the end of November. That's when I saw it and I was like, oh my god, somehow I missed it. We love hearing from her to nine listeners because we do. We do. Also, how funny that they mentioned the Whaley House else, and we're doing like a This episode is like a page from and that's why we drink because one of their first episodes was the Whaley House and then one of their tours was the Whaley House. Lots of connections here. Yeah. I also randomly love running into people from the Tone nine away from the Tone nine. It's so random because it is because who's even from here? You know? Yeah? Yeah, so when you run into someone else, you're like, oh my god, are you from Modesta? Yeah? And yeah, it's always fun. Okay, so oh wait, sorry, when you when you had told me that this episode would be one spooky story once your crime story, it came to my mind that this is like the Spanish or Spanglish version of and that's why we drink. And then I was thinking of cheesy ways to call that in Spanish, but it couldn't take it none and just only in Spanish, and that's why wee. But it's a past amos that's always Spanish, I know. That's why I said, I can't think it was Spanish. Yeah, you're right, You're right. It doesn't flow. It's like that force Spanlish from on the Block or on my block. What's that show called? Oh god, yeah, yeah, pattern so Noon that was my Spanish that was Force Spanish. Yeah, doesn't speak Spanish, yeah no, yeah right, but they do it all the time. Yeah. Yeah, it's like the older shows, like I forgot which ones, but yeah, like let's go Familia were that's why we were at Manas. Yeah, okay, well let's your your your story first, Carmen, and I will act surprise, like I didn't write the notes myself cutting not. I'll act surprise. Okay. So, like you said, we're talking about let see that Mexico Metro. What did you say, Yeah, the Metro Metro. You know, the the train in Mexico. So train five hundred, five hundred and one used to run online, one of the Silamhico Metro and it now runs online. Five and line one is one of the oldest lines, actually the first line. Yeah, hence the number one numero you know number you know, right, that's what Dora would say, many train conductors are too scared to drive this train or line whatever. Oh god, it was the first line where a man was said to jump to his death on the tracks. Yeah, and I laughed because I'm reading it I don't know what's gonna happen. So before I read it, I was like, oh god, yeah, listeners, in case you can't tell, I wrote the notes. A girl is reading them, just so I don't read for an hour straight. But she's she's the one that's going to be surprised. And before I read something, oh god. After the nineteen eighties earthquake that hit the center of Mexico, stories of hauntings online one and train five hundred, five hundred one. What kind of just call it five hundred one or something or just five hundred. Yeah, the stories the haunting spread, so the train was allegedly used to transport bodies back and forth to Morgus, adding to the haunting stories. So when the Metro started working again after the earthquakes, only workers knew that the train was used for transporting the Morgs back and forth. The BODI used to the more Yeah, yeah, yeah, what did I say, transporting the Morgue which, sorry, wild Yeah, I'm still sick, y'all. I mean like, I'm sick again and my brain is barely working. You're sick again, yeah, not transporting the morgs, transporting the bodies back and forth. To the Morgs. So yeah, only than knew. The workers knew about this, and soon the passengers started complaining of a nauseating smell that came and went, and nothing was causing the smell. So when the five hundred five hundred one train arrived to its final stop, employees do walk through to let passengers know that this is the final stop. A guard was walking through and noticed that a family was still sitting in the back, but when he got to their section, they were gone. There was only a little girl sitting there. Why is it always a little girl? I don't like it, I know. She was hunched over and crying, and the guard thought that her parents abandoned her, so he ran through the train looking for the parents, calling for help, and told other employees to look for the parents, but they couldn't be found, so the three employees agreed to take her to the police station. One of them walked towards her. She was sitting in the same spot, still hunched over and still crying. He crouched out to look sorry. He crushed out to talk to her, but when she looked at him, the girl had a pale gray skin and her eyes were dead and cold. She was dead. Yeah, ooh, can you just pick to that, because you know, like to be kinder to children, you lean down to talk to them at their level, and then it just looks up and it's like, that's a child. I'm picturing like that kid from the Ring. Yes, I always pictured the little kid from the Ring, the one that sits there crouched down. Yeah, yeah, terrifying. And that's also what I picture when I heard the marble story from our a Wilita's house. God, oh yeah, oh oh, and I forgot what I was said. I mentioned that in I don't remember. I feel like it was a while ago. Oh yeah, yeah, like a year ago whatever episode. But yeah, basically, there's a marble that runs down the stairs of our A Wilita's house that nobody has heard it in a while. But one of our cousins saw a little boy lean over in my mom or my mom's or a Walita's. Like it's not a backyard, it's like a little patio. It's very small. It's where you hang clothes basically, and that's it. And he saw a little boy crashed down like if they were about to you know, hit a marble, roll a marble. Whatever you do to a marble, I don't know. You go like this, you flick it, You flick a marble. Okay, I think you did with your thumb though, do you Yeah, I don't hit it with your index finger. Yeah, And so that's how I picture all terrifying little kids. Yeah, in any ghost story, she cried out, I don't want to be here, and he he ran all the way back to the supervisor and put it in his two weeks right then and there. Yeah, wouldn't even do two weeks. I'd be like, I'm fucking done, I'm out of here. I would have left. Yeah. New engineers, guards and conductors are usually sent to train five hundred five hundred one because everyone else knows it's Hanset. So it's like all the newbies, Yeah, they don't know yet in their former hazing the new new employees. Another conductor, a woman will call her Luisa, was a new on the job. She had only been there three months. On October, she had done a double shift and was on her last loop, and she noticed that the train was extra cold when she passed by That got themote station. Her train came to a sudden stop. She was the only one on the train because very few passengers took this last train, and she figured the train it was just having mechanical issues. She then tried to radio for help, but nothing was working and she heard footsteps, but when she looked, no one was there. Great, this is exactly what you want to hear when your train's not working. Footsteps and you're the only one there. Yeah. Finally the train got going again and she was able to get to the nearest station where she stopped to double check. And she was doing her checks, an officer approached her and as if everything was okay. She told them she was okay now, but she had been having issues and that she had heard footsteps, so he did a walk through for her and told her everything looked good. He then asked, are you guys off after this? No? No, Mom, I would have thrown up. She was like, guys, what, it's just me. So she said that she was on her way back to head home and he told her double ships are rough, but I think she had her partner and after as if he wasn't training, and she's like, full, I'm the only one driving. What do you mean? We? What do you mean? We? What do you mean? And she's like, no, I saw to people on the train when it was pulling in, And he's like, oh, forget it, I'm probably just seeing things. And she was confused but continued on her way. I would have just left left the train, not gone back to the last stop. Yeah. Not long after, the train came to a send and stop inside of a tunnel. Not a tunnel. Not a tunnel. That's the worst place you can stop. Oh my god. So she was able to get in contact with command and told them what happened, and they told her to wait while they figured it out. And then she heard someone tap the window behind her. Oh, and then she heard silence. No, I'm mecago. So she was waiting from waiting for instructions for command when she saw women pass by outside on the tracks. She thought, so she wanted to think. She really wished it was one of the passengers that was not on her train, but she really wanted it to be a passenger, and basically convinced herself it was a passenger. So she was about to go call her back in, you know, to get out of the tracks, but the woman kept walking as if she couldn't hear her, and the woman vanished into the dark, and the conductor heard a disembodied laugh and she was scared as the fuck as am I now. Command called her and they're like, are you okay? And she was like can I go now? Like like, I like, let me fucking leave, please, train drive please, I need to go, and they gave her the okay, there would be an officer at the next top to board and keep her company. She got to the next stop and there was an officer there. So they searched the last stop looking for the woman, and of course found no one. And he was like, have you taken any drugs something? Have you? Are you on anything? Are you high right now? How many fingers in my holding? But no, she was. He sober. So they moved again and she was hella nervous, but was find the rest of the way And when she finally got there, other people were waiting for her and she asked them if she if they knew anything about the train and one mechanic was like, oh, yeah, trained five hundred and five hundred one is cursed, haunted. You didn't know. She was like what excuse me? Uh? What cases okay? And he's like yeah, tons of mechanics and conductors have so many stories of disappearing passengers, hearing screams, weird smells. One conductor told me two gets jumped on the train jury email functioned in the tunnel and he told them to get off, and when they got back into the tunnel, they vanished right before his eyes. And the conductor almost passed out and needed a medical attention. Oh my god, that's terrifying. And yeah, many believe that the spirits of those who died during the earthquake are still roaming trained five hundred and five hundred and one end line one of see that Mexico metro that was scary. That was scary. Metro stories are the scariest, well, one of the scariest to me. There's also a well I think were you on the episode with me? Or was that MJ. But there's a lot of hunted metro stories in Guadalajara too, I don't remember. Probably all over in Mexico, I think that was MJ. But yeah, probably all over. Yeah, probably just because of all the all the people coming and going and just how old these cities are. And yeah, I mean everything that has happened, but especially in Mexico City because yeah, yeah, two deadly earthquakes, which we know that was MJ. I was like saying, we talked about but we talked about a different disasters together. Yeah we did. But yeah, I mean, no surprise that they're haunted. Oh, because you know what, we have another episode called Haunted train Stations and that's the one where I talked about metro story or metro stories. Yeah, yeah, which we've never seen anything on, but we would be the last people to experience anything. Luckily. It's it's lucky to me, Yes, very lucky. The other day, I was at my friend's house and somehow, you know how things go, sweet started talking about scary stories. Naturally, Yeah, naturally us Mexicans do. And I forgot what happened. And I was like, no, you need a loan to see stuff the gift. Yeah yeah. So I used to live with Aparo, a mutual friend, and she says her house was haunted. Tell her to send me her stories. I'll tell her. But it's not that it's like hearing freaking stuff. There was one that was scarier and her and her brother and I want to see her mom, like have seen everyone but everyone but me. Yeah, because I loved of our lives probably like what four months, I think it was, yeah, yeah, And I never saw anything or heard anything or felt anything was off. And then my friend Sandra told us, and I can't even believe she went to the Winchester Mystery House with us, because she says she does hear and see stuff. And I was like, and she was like, Hella anxious about going. She's like, but I want to go because you guys want to go. And I was like, Okay, I guess maybe she didn't tell you why. No, she just said, like it makes like that kind of stuff makes me feel an easy. But she barely told us, like last weekend that she has seen like a ghost in her house. And I've been to her and of course never fell anything, of course, And I didn't you always see anything at Winchester Mystery House either, did she? No, she was just anxious. Yeah, Okay. So she said that she had like a nightmare and she couldn't wake up, kind of like sleeping paralysis type. Yeah, and then that her nightmare just trying to find her dog because she was hearing stuff and then she couldn't find him or something like that. Anyway, when she woke up and she said she was already awake that she saw. I think in her nightmare she saw like a lady pointing, oh my god, like at something in her bed. And then when she woke up, she saw a woman, a woman in her bed where the person was pointing yes, yes, Oh my god. Oh I have chills. Oh the scream. I scrumped when she told me, because I was like, bitch, I'm here right, I was in her house. When she said, I was like, I know I'm leaving. I gotta go suddenly suddenly I have to leave. Wow, like buying. So yeah, that's terrifying. That's terrifying. Oh my god. Mmm. I got to what's what's goose folks in Spanish? Again? Oh? I thought was calofrios. Oh my bad. I think it's both. No, yeah, it is okay. I think full body is calofrios. Full body is calofios. We should make stickers that say full bodies. We're just gonna start saying that, even though it doesn't flow. We're doing sports sports force Spanglish. Just what I was trying to say, we're doing for I was combining Spanish in force for Spanlish or nothing or yaa or nava exactly Okay, well, we'll take a quick ad break. I don't even say naturally, We're gonna take a quick at break and then come back from my story. Welcome to our Hunted Break. We just want to give a shout out to our newest Patreon members, Hiovanna, Cardla and Anastasia. Thank you so much for joining. 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The best support that you can give us is just listening to our episodes here, So thank you for doing that. All right? Those are great ads. Unless it was that border patrol ad. Yeah, unless it was something that we don't support. They're just randomly popping in, you know, like or do you want to be a party or something greater or a part of something greater? I would rather kill myself. No, I'm not gonna joke about that, Okay, So I'll be telling you, Carmen and the listeners about the cannibal poets of that Mexico. Have you heard this story? Cannibal poet? Yeah, a cannibal poet is what he called himself, the cat or no that might have been what the media called them. I don't think I have Okay, Okay, good, Yeah, this is a cannibal murder serial killer who's also thought he was a poet emphasis on thought. Wow, is it like a Meccan Fox poems? Like who Megan Fox poems. She came out with the poetry book recently. No way, I didn't know this. Oh my god, I'm gonna have to look for it and send it to you. Okay, okay, yeah, I don't know. I haven't. I didn't look for his book. Oh okay, if he has one, okay. So, Hosse Luis Cabaa was born June twentieth, nineteen sixty nine. Not the name Hostel Louise. Not the name was the Louise, I know, right, Honestly, there's Hosta Luiss of all calibers, not all of the marceerial killers. Yeah, if you say so. Yeah, some of them are, some of them are knowing, some of them are great, some of them are kind. You know, there's different ones, because I personally know like three Hostel Luises. At least ten Hostel Luisas. Yeah, actually you're right, it's more like ten, very common. But yeah, this one's a serial killer. This one's of the serial killer caliber. This is what happens to be a serracillar. Yeah. But again, not all host Luisas are not Luiss. Oh my god. Okay. So he had a rough childhood. His father died when he was two and he was raised by his mother, Elia, and by all accounts, Elia was abusive, okay, not the best mom, no no. And he also was part of a I went, it's a huge family, but bigger. Three sisters and a brother. Okay, so five siblings total, five siblings, yeah, which I think is like a middle sized family in Mexico because like eight or nine yeah, eight to eleven siblings is what I call a huge family. Yeah, especially back wait when was he born sixty nine? Yeah? Yeah, especially back then. M hm. So yes, they lived and see that Mexico. And again, by all accounts, Elia was abusive. She was very strict, and she had brutal punishments that included regular beatings. She also did things like breaking any gifts the children received, which was rare because you know, they're a mid sized family in a single single parent household, right, they're like gifts and new toys they don't come by yeah very often. Like once, Hosteluis got a new truck as a gift and she broke it as a punishment. And so he was six when this happened, and he started working at that age because he wanted a new truck. So he started shining shoes like the little boy from Coco. But he was nice but not as wholesome. Not as wholesome. Yeah, so he saved money from his shoe shining work. But our new one got home with it, was happy to have it, and when she saw it, she beat him and broke his new truck. Oh my god. You know, you hear that a lot of from abusive parents like that, like they don't want to buy you nothing, and then when you finally can't afford to buy something yourself, they're still not happy because it's about you know, making as miserable and control and whatever exactly. So I just just a bad childhood. He was sexually abused by a friend of his older brother. Oh my god. The friend was sixteen and he was seven when this happened. Oh my god, it's horrifying. At twelve, his mom kicked him out of the house because he was too much according to her, and so then he he lived with some It was like a I want to say, it was not a house. It was like a vessin dad almost, okay, or a house with multiple like an apartment building or something like that, because another family owned that building and they let him stay with them and that's where he stayed, so he wasn't homeless. He was like homeless for a little bit, and then they saw that he was kicked out and he stayed with them after that. But he dropped out of school. He started drinking at a really young age, had some really bad depression naturally with you know, everything that has happened to him. Yeah, I think it was around high school that he stopped going to school and he started working with his brother in law as a clown. So he was the clown and the brother in law was a magician, not another clown. Yeah. Yeah, oh why he didn't stay a clown though, so I think that's the difference here. He just happened to work as a cloud at one point in his life. Yeah, And he also became interested in writing at this age, so then, you know whatever, life continued. At age twenty seven, in nineteen ninety six, he married his first wife, either and she was also the mother of his two kids. This marriage did not last. They divorced two years later, and then she took the kids to the US, and this made Josa super mad and more depressed, like how dare she take the kids for me? Also, he was abusive in controlling. Well, I forgot to mention that. I mean, it makes sense. Yeah, it checks out, it tracks. So at this point in his life, he started drinking more heavily and using drugs. Not long after, I then left him with his children. Left left with his children. Yes, not left him with the children, but left to the s and to the US and took the children with us. What I was trying to say. Yeah, he met Lydia, his new girlfriend, and Lydia would later say in some interviews that he was really into Brugheria, and he especially wanted to place a curse on his ex wife aide okay for taking the kids. Yeah, and you know that's wrong. Only mean people put curses higher, which is to put curses on other people. Yeah. Good people don't do that. He would also tell Lydia thinks like if you leave me, I'm gonna kill myself. So he was abusive and controlling and jealous towards her too. She did manage to escape though, good for her, Good for her. Yes. So at this point in his life he was like very very into writing. He would pass out pamphlets of his poetry on the street. And you don't have a sample, No, okay, I couldn't find any. Oh. He would also tell people he was a famous author, kind of delusional because he was not I think I have heard this. You might have, you might have. This is starting to sound familiar, Okay, okay. While he was passing out poetry flyers, he met Alexandra Galliana Gavito and she was a single mother with two kids. They started talking, getting more serious. She thought he was a sweet guy, because I mean, come on, he was passing out poetry in the street. Yeah, And I don't know, maybe maybe the poetry was sweet. Maybe she read it and she was like, wow, this is uh, this is so nice. You know. I don't know. But you can't judge a book by its cover. Some terrible people write really good things too, you know. Yeah, not that I don't know. I don't know if his running was any good though, allah JK. Rowley. Yeah, although looking back at the books that I thought were amazing, you kind of read them now and you're like, okay, but they're children's books. Yeah, true, true, No, But like the way she would come up with names, Yeah, but all kids books have silly names. I mean, some have normal names, like naming the only Asian character cho chain. Oh oh well, yeah, yeah, I forgot about that aspect. I thought you were talking about like other people's names. No, no, no, like hers yeah yeah yeah, or making the only black student at Bogwarts. It's dad. I'm sorry. It's just the audacity of her writing. And the only black students are Hogwarts. He had an absent father. Oh but see, like little things like that, I don't remember. Oh, I don't know why they're ingrained in my brain. I don't know anyway back to this. All this to say that terrible people can write good things. But I don't think he wrote good things. I think his writing probably stuck, and that's why he was passing out pamphlets of his writing in the street. Maybe he just didn't have the means to pursue writing and to study writing. True. True, you know you you're right, You're right. So, yeah, they were talking. She thought he was a sweet guy. He also learned that handra I worked at a pharmacy, and this made him very excited because he was a little bit of drugs, you know, like a clanaz a pam okay, okay, a little bit of benzos. Yeah, among other other things like math. But mainly Klan as a pan was his favorite. Interesting, those are very two different drugs. Yeah yeah, there was like other things that he also used, but almost everything was on the list at one point. Oh okay, yeah. So at some point, Alejandra introduced Hosta Luise to her mother and he told her that he told her mother and that he made two hundred dollars a day through his writing. Her mom did not believe it, and she also got very bad vies from him. He seemed to need to control the conversation and he talked about himself in a grandiose manner. Okay, like he talked himself up. And he also talks about himself too much. So to her, she's like, I don't know about this guy. Bad vibe is all around. Yeah, So slowly Jose Louis started revealing his true self to Alexandra. She could see that he was controlling, jealous, and abusive. In two thousand and seven, she knew that she needed to get out of the relationship, but she didn't know how until October of that year, she was offered a new job at a different location. More my god, North and see that Mexico. What do you say? Oh, my god, because I do remember this and I know she doesn't make it there. You're right, Yeah, So she needed to move more north in the city so she won't have to travel back and forth that much, like the commune would be less. So she was like, Okay, this is my chance to get away from him, and presumably she told him about his plant, about her plans to move and you know, leave him. So on October fifth, Alejandra's mom got a phone call that Alexandra never made it to work. Alexandra's mom immediately was like, that son of a bitch, she knew, and also sorry for spoiling this beforehand. Oh yeah, ah, yeah, we knew her. Maybe I'll cut it out. Yeah, we could tell. We could tell because I did say he was a stirra killer in the beginning exactly. So yeah, she immediately suspected Hotel Louis has something to do with it because of how controlling, weird and just abusive he was, right, Yeah, So she went over there to find out, to knock on his door and like, you know, figure out what was going on, But a neighbor interrupted her and told her that she had they had seen Alexandra go inside of Luisa's house and like knock him back out. So she contacted police with this new information, and on October seventh, police arrived to Hossa Luisa's house. He was sitting on the table eating when they arrived. When they began their search, okay, and you have you'll see why I brought that up. So stop, I done? Did I'm done? Okay, So they tell him, like, you know she was lasting here, we need to do a search. And so they did conduct their search and they found Alexandra's body and his closet. So right away, you know, they could tell us her her right leg and right arm were missy and so they're like, all right, well where is the rest of her? Where's her arm? Yeah, where's her arm? Where's her leg? So they kept looking and I don't know what brought them to open the fridge, but they opened the fridge and they found Alejandra's missing body parts on a plate inside the fridge. Oh my god. Next to that plate was a box of corn flakes, Just like, who the fuck puts cornflakes? Who put that? Yeah? No, you don't put corn flakes in the fridge. Come on some random day, I'll work one of my coworkers was like asking like weird questions, and she was like, if you were a serial killer, what tray or what? Okay, what weird trade would people look? I forgot how she wore it, but basically look back on like when they write your shit, yeah yeah, and they write about you. And that cereal box detail is definitely that trait for him, besides the other you know, controlling it or whatever else. Right right, Well, they were like, this is this seems out of place. Let's look inside this cereal box. And that's when they saw fried human bones. Oh my inside the box? Uh yeah, I thought I thought it was just regular cereal in there, No, which would have been weird, but this is just worse. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe he was like, no, one's gonna look in here, who's gonna look? Who's gonna look? Yeah? So I don't know why, yeah, but but yeah they looked and that's what they saw. So then they turned around to look maybe look at He's gonna be like, what the fuck? What are you? What? What? Why is her like in the fridge? Why is there? Why is her fried bones? What are these corn flaves? What are these corn flates? Yeah? So they turned look at him in and no they look at his plate again, and that's when they noticed that he's eating cooked body parts. Oh my god, and I only laugh at how horrible this is. This isn't like a funny laugh. Very quify. Okay, yeah, I'm very uncomfortable. This isn't terrifying and horrible because you would have thought he would at least stop eating while they're searching them. Oh, he was actively eating when they looked at him. M hm. He was like, I'm gonna get my last bite here. I don't care what's going on. Oh no, I'm sorry. Oh my god. Yeah. So then they looked over at the at the stove and there was a frying pan on there and there were cute biparts inside the stuff frying pan. He was immediately arrested. He confessed to strangling her to death, but he maintained that he didn't eat her, even though they saw him eating. Oh my god. He insisted that he cooked her to feed her to the neighborhood dogs. That's still horrible, and I just want to say, poor Fidu lice. The dog didn't ask for this, No, they didn't. During the investigation, they also found a book he was working on. Guess the title of this book. Is it food related? Yeah, you could say that what I'm hungry for? No kids. It was titled Instinctosovillas. Oh my god. It was like eating related, not food related, Cannibal instincts or twelve Days, which is just a weird title, I think, or twelve days. Yeah, I think he could have just went with cannibal instincts. Also weird title for someone who insists they didn't eat anyone. Yeah. There was also a picture of Hannibal Lecter what the hell next to the book, like he was like thinking for inspiration or something. I don't know. Wow, oh my god. There was also during during the investigation another murder linked to Jose Luis. His girlfriend Veronica con Suelo Martinez went missing in two thousand and four and she was found dismembered in a dump and there were no leads on this at all, and she was found until he was arrested. They uncovered that they had been together and she had been dismembered and she was also a single mother. Missing body part, oh yeah, missing the body or the dismemberment of the body. They kind of like linked that to the dismemberment of Alexandra and the fact that she was a single mother, because now it seems like he really just now there's a pattern, yes, exactly. And when he was questioned about this, he denied killing her, and he blamed a friend of his called Juan Carlos Jose, who worked with Veronica Conzuelo. And this friend, Juan Carlos Jose, told police that he and Jossel Louis were actually in a relationship what during that time? Yeah, this like I was, I was like, wow, this took a turn. I don't remember this part. Yeah. Yeah. And so then Jose Juan Carlos Jose said that josel Louis was the one who had killed Veronica and he had only helped hide her. Juan Carlos did end up being arrested for this, Sorry did he? Quan Carlos is the one who said he only helped tire her. Yeah, okay, do her body, Okay, But according to him, Hosseil Louise was the one who killed her and dismembered her. Yeah, okay. And then on top of that, Joseil Louise was also linked to the murder of a sex worker whose name, sadly is not known. And you know, This is the terrible thing about a lot of these serial killers. Will this will be their first like victim they go for because these murder their murders are widely ignored, or they don't know who they are because they move so many times. Sometimes they just go by a certain name. So he was linked to her murder and she was found dismembered at a dump site too. Wow, so like another connection. While in jail, Hossel Louis refused to plead guilty or not guilty. And then two months after his arrest, he was found dead in his cell. Oh he When they found him, he was hanging by a belt. Oh wow. It was ruled suicide, but it was likely a murder. He was murdered by other inmates. Fellow inmates. Oh yeah, Hossel Louise was not suicidal at all. He was excited to write his autobiography titled Oh my God, the Cannibal Poet. Oh my God. Also we are title for someone who insisted that they never ate anyone. Yeah. Can we count that as a confession? I say yes, right, yeah. And his body had signs of sexual assault and oh god, his standardles had been dismembered. Oh my god, Wow. So I don't know this rule of the suicide. I mean yeah, there's no way no, but that's what happened. And a total of ten murders would be linked to Hostel Louise. Ten murders yeah, ten, a total of ten wow, so seven more possible victim aside from the three that were mentioned or more known, but either way, none of it could be confirmed except Alexandra Wow, because he he died. Yeah. And you know, in the end, the ones who suffer the most, who doarted, left with no answers, with nothing, no no when to, I mean, no accountability, no justice was hand in the end. Right are the victims they never got closure? Yeah? I think families, Yeah, but for a lot of people at least knowing, yeah, having a definitive answer. Yeah right, but yeah, there was never nothing because he killed himself or was writered. Yes, and uh yeah that is the cannibal poet of Sudad, Mexico. Wow. Very disturbing, very indeed. Yeah, you might have heard it years of Bailey Syrian, Oh, I think you're right, Yeah, this whole time. I remember where I heard it. I think it was Yeah, I heard it. But there was also things missing, like she never says Alejandra's name, she doesn't mention the well, she's not the best at details. No, no, no, what else was? Oh the relationship with uh Juan Carlos. That's why I didn't know about that. Yeah, that was not in there either. That was in the all the articles in Spanish. Ah, no wonder advantage here bi lingual Yeah yeah, but yeah, terrible terrible case. Yeah yeah that is mm hmm very disturbing. Yes, and that brings us to the end of the episode. Oh run, yeah, well, do you have any spooky recommendations before we go? No, I've still been rewatching Supernatural. Oh nice. Yeah, I actually don't have one either, because I have been rewatching Bones. Oh my god, I haven't watched Bones in so long. Yeah, I don't know. I think I came across like a random ass like edit. You know how people do these edits of like actors and they're just like, yeah, yeah, so they're on Twitter. One came up that's someone made on TikTok the show. Yes, yeah, and I was like, oh, Bones, and so I have been just watching that non stop spoiler spoiler alert, but it's also years old. But I cannot did you wrap my head around what they did to Zach. No, first Zach, Yeah they did to Zach, and then what they did to Sweets, because that's where I stopped watching. I didn't watch after Sweets. I don't I didn't watch after Sweets either. Yeah, so I don't know if I'm good. I love Sweets. There's also a random I didn't notice it the first time I've watched it, but there's a Freaks and Geeks like show, not shadow, but like a little nod to it. Really, when Sweets is first into, they're saying his name, and then we hadn't watch Gigs yet, No, we hadn't. Yeah, the booth is saying like his name, and he's like doctor Geeks, doctor Freak Sweets. My bad, it's doctor Sweets. Oh my god, it's so obvious. Yeah. Wow yeah, yeah, So I've been watching that, and uh, while we've been on our break, I've also had a chance to play Stardoo Valley a little bit. Okay, I was gonna say I started gaming again, and then by gaming, I mean I've been playing my farming simulator Stardoo Valley. Wow. So yeah, that's why I have no speaking recommendations because in my free time, I've been playing Stardoo Valley and watching boons. You know, I started reading A Gone Girl. I know it's years old at this point, yeah, but yeah, I started reading that. Speaking of reading, we should we should record our book club episode. Oh my god, we finished, We both finished, but if we were waiting on MJ. But then MJ's life just kind of went Yeah, it was supposed to be a whistle like a downhill. Wow, Norman can whistle either, thought about Yeah, MJ just got really busy. Then she got fotty sick. Her just got sick, her dad got sick again, wish her, let's send her our best wishes. But yeah, she was like, I'm not going to finish the book. You guys can record the episode without me, and then I just forgot about it. Yeah. I will send out the book club questions and then we'll work on it on recording it. Yeah cool cool, Yeah, I might have to like do a quick not a reread. Yeah, it's been so long, it has been so long. And then do you want to plug anything before we go? Kerman, you know that I do. If you like history, specifically Latin American history, that you wish I had learned about in school or things I don't know, yeah, but things we never learned about, then you should check out as Unknown. We talk about Latin American history sometimes, you know, topics that are heavy about war, genocide, colonial ship like that, but sometimes it's also very uplifting stories like protest dogs in Chile. Yeah, you know, just stories of community power, resistance, resisting the US resistance, Yeah, the US then, yeah, chunknown anywhere you listen to podcasts like the podcast you're listening to right now, and if you're into novelas, then check out Novedaito. We are doing a rewatch of Teresa. We're almost done done. Oh my god, jinks. It's a it's a good time. It's a fun time. And we also just introduced a new segment that will become its own podcast once we're done with Teresa called chronically Online, where Christina usually tells me about some TikTok stuff that's viral talk videos whatever since I don't have to talk. Yeah, so we also talk about different topics that come out of those yes videos and whatnot. Recently, men and wedding vowels on TikTok. It was a lot of fun. This is also on YouTube right now that you can find just this segment. But yeah, yeah, it's a lot of fun. So thanks Carmen for joining me today. Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure as always, and best wishes and warmers regards to MJ. Yes, as we await her return. I don't know, I see, I don't know, but I loved it. And yeah, everyone else I don't know, watch out for one of two things when you go to see that Mexico. Watch out for ghosts on the metro or a kindibalistic serial killer not just hetting his dead poet. Yeah yes, and stay a spooky We'll catch everyone next time by my Spooky Tales is hosted by Christina and MJ, produced and edited by Christina. Everything is written and researched by Christina MJ and with the help of Don Shout Out Don. Thank you so much for your help. If you love what you hear, consider living us a five star review. If you don't, then do not leave us anything. Please. If you want short spooky stories, follow us on TikTok at spooky Tels. 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