La Casa de la Tia Toña and the Monster of the Andes

Hi, This is Christina and Carmen, and this is another episode of a Spooky Townes, the podcast for all things spoogee, creepy, true crime, hunted places, all those things Latin America related. And yeah, were you Oh my god, Carmen keeps whisper singing, and it's that time of year where those songs just be sticking my head until ju I would say January. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I was legit obsessed with the song in like high school, was it really high school? I would like play it so much, and you guys would first It was like, actually remember because we used to play on the TV. We used to play like all the Christmas songs and that one you would play, and this isn't the one about fish, yeah loss, and that's another one we used to play or organs. Yeah, so yeah, those songs are going to be Sickona forever anyway. Yes, as all, we have a paranormal topic, Hunted Houses, which we haven't done in a while. It has been a while, yeah it has too long. And then I have a serial killer true crime case. But before that, a listener story. And if you want to send us a story, you can email at spookyosdmail dot com. You can dm us on our socials that you can call it a spooky hotline. I can't believe the whole time you've been saying this, Carmen is singing, Oh my god. Anyway, yes, you stop, it's distracting. Okay, I'm sorry, Okay, I'm just like not gonna look at you. And then the other option is submitted on discord. There's a lot of ways to get us to us, and we love receiving them. So yeah, are you ready to read the listener story and stop saying okay okay? This is from Janelle, who has shared a story with us before. Thank you, Janelle for all of your stories. Hi ladies, it's me again. Let me just say that I'm super excited to hear you guys read my story about my an and that shadow thing. I literally jumped out of excitement and in the process scared the crap out of my husband. He loved that. Yeah, let me tell you about an incident that happened to me when I was twelve years old, living in that same house, but in the basement. Well, this incident happened on a random afternoon when I got out of school and for some strange reason, I rushed home. For the life of me, I cannot remember why I was rushing, but it just so happened that this particular day, no one was home. So I rushed the three blocks to my house, ran up the long front yard, up the stairs to open the front door, and once inside, the basement door would be right in front. I would leave the front door opened to shed a light because it was always pretty dark, turned the basement light on, and just as I'm about to head down the stairs, I see you could only be described as a transparent figure that looks like a little girl with curly hair, and there actually lifted its arm and motioned for me to come. No, my mess, No, no, oh yeah, horrifying, Oh my god. I immediately slammed the door shut, ran out into the front yard, closing the front door behind me, and I sat in the yard closer to the front gate, terrified to even look at the house. I sat there waiting for anyone to come home, and eventually when my aunt showed up, and I pretty much stuck to them the entire afternoon until my mother came home. I did tell my family what had happened that day, and in true Mexican spirit, Those mfs told me, well, why didn't you go play with her? She was probably lonely. Oh no, of course they said that. Oh wow. I was terrified for a while to come home and no one being home after that incident. Eventually I got over it, but I wouldn't be the only one to see children in the basement. My brother and cousin once a while watching wrestling, heard giggling coming from the bathroom, which was directly across her bedroom. My brother ignored it because he doesn't believe in the paranormal, but my cousin decided to look right in the bathtub. Scared, she told my brother to look to make sure she wasn't going nuts. My brother, on the other hand, got up and closed about them door and literally told my cousin to be quiet because she's being too loud. Oh my god, not during the game, don't haut me during my wrestling. During wrestling, he himself had multiple incidents with the paranormal, but to this day he still doesn't believe in it. Insane Again, I could go on and on about the many different things that happened in that house. The hat man was seen multiple for real the hat Man was seen multiple times, more shadow children and the doll that would see without any batteries, and two different incidents where we thought strangers came into our house. Oh my god, Janelle, send those stories in, send them a girl. We need to hear them. We do. Oh wow, that's so creepy. The beckoning that got me. I was like, get out of town. I wouldn't I would die. I would run out too. No. Yeah, oh my god, that's that's creepy. I don't know that I would ever recover. Hey, let's move on to some haunted housees. I'm ready. Oh, I'll say, did you not write anything before? Before you do that, before we get into our spooky topic, I have to say I was shocked. I posted, I posted our regular Instagram posts, just an image of like episode one, eight nine, last episode. Yeah, and someone was like, wow, y'all really hating on board Patrol and something we've made clear and many times throughout the podcast. Yeah, I'm sorry. As a children of immigrants, we just cannot It's definitely not the first time it's come up. No, it's not at all, like at all, certainly not, and you've been on an apologetic about it. Yeah, we've like literally said it so many times. Yeah, and so this person commented that, and then I was like, that's what I said, as children of immigrants, Yeah, we don't and we never will, Like I don't know why. It's a surprise now, yeah. And then what are they right back? They said, don't worry, just doing their Yeah, no, they're just doing their their job. And I was like, well, they don't even our support, like they have the support of the government. They don't end this person or yeah they have no, I said, that's what I said. I said, they have the support of the government and clearly yours, like they do not need our support, trust me. And then they said Trump, it's gonna make it right in January. I'm like, are you saying it's going to deport us? I'm sorry. I was born in this hellhole. Yeah, and I served this hell whole country. Right. Where's the thank you? Where's your thank you? Where's my thank you for my service? Or ma'am thank you. I'm wouldn't be here without you. Sign. I can't even say that I signed the contract for your freedom of speech. You allowed him to say that we're being sarcastic. In case you can't tell, but you know it's fine. And the sad thing about these policies and this present return that's coming in up is that you and I were safe to people that are most vulnerable and at risk. Like that's who's going to be affected the most, right, So we can sit here in our little rooms and talk our little shit and and there are other ways to help people, no, of course, yeah yeah, but we will stay talking our shit. We will. We will do we get put on our list and stand to a camp now I'm just kidding. Yeah, okay, so I just sweate her to say that. Onto the haunted houses, now, yes, let's do it. Okay. So there's a famous haunted house in Neuvo Leon, Mexico, known as My Fault right there, and that's because the house is in the Nouvoleon neighborhood of Apolaca. The house was once inhabited by Brisa Amirez, who was given the home after a divorce trial, and her two children, Eddie and Daddio. But Risa's happy new beginnings never took off. Instead, her wonderful new home turned her life into a living nightmare. Oh no, not her winning the house and then it a literal nightmare and then actually losing is then actually losing to the end. Brisa told her story to the Netflix documentary Haunted Latin America. I don't remember, Risa. I watched that. It was a long time ago though it was, Yeah, because I watched years ago, so it's like gone from my memory. God, four years ago. No, I don't know. I'm guessing. I don't remember how long, but it was remember it coming out. It was a while ago. Yeah, It's like the years keep going, but I'm still stuck in twenty twenty, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the in the documentary, Lisa said, dta ke nintento, the three may me ya familia and in inglass, I lived in a cursed home that tried to destroy me and my entire family. At the start of the Haunting, Rista would hear barefoot feet in the bathroom, but when she would turned around to tell her children to put their shoes on, she would notice that they were no one in the bathroom nor. As time progressed, the spirits in the home began to mess with her son's toys. Every night, Lisa cleaned up after her children and picked up their toys in the morning, she would wake up to the toys on the couch in a perfect straight line, and then she blamed the kids. Lisa soon found herself scared and paranoid and thought someone might be breaking into her home and lighting at the toys. I was just going to say, that's more far fetch than ghosts. Yeah. In her interview with Netflix, Lisa said that she felt like her head was spinning every day. Hirad Irokome, she told the show, So she was scared. First, she was like, I'm losing my mind, and then she was scared now. Adults Eddie and Daddio, also told the show that in addition to feeling a dark presence in their home that they tried to ignore, but they also started to fear their mom because she became aggressive with them and the neighbors and the They claim that their mom would then be unable to recall these tense incidents when she was confronted, so they felt like their mom was possessed. The family chose to stay in the home a few more weeks until Brisa began to sleepwalk and wake up in different places around the house with scratches and bruises on her body and That's when they decided they couldn't handle this anymore and they abandoned the house. But that's not the end of the story. Oh. Years later, Brisa remarried and had a son with the famous Monterrey radio host Morocco Palacios. They newlyweds who were disappointed after real estate deal. They better not did they move back to the house? They did? Oh my god? Oh did she forget everything that happened? Okay, So the Nila Weeds, who were disappointed after a real estate deal fell through, decided to use the house in apple Laca until they could close on a home that they like, but their stay there was short lived. Obviously not surprised, the couple claimed that one night, their new born's crib was violently shaken and a spirit tried to harm Morocco by pulling his hair. Oh he had long hair. Yeah. So. Although Risa and the family claimed that they were attacked by the spirit of a young boy, records show that it was a young girl who died in the home, and records show that on the day the young girl was murdered, she was being watched after by her five brothers. Oh oh, are they guilty? Somehow well, a neighbor took advantage of the situation and used candy to lure the girl to him. Once he had her alone, he killed the young girl and her body was found on the patio three days later. Oh my god. Soon after the murder, the girl's father left his wife and abandoned his family after accusing his wife of not keeping a closer eye on their daughter. What about God, I'm sorry, this is just gonna get worse. Okay, just oh, hold your horses, okay, okay. The enraged and grief stricken father came back days later with the gun and fatally shot his wife. Brisa and her family then moved into that house. Ten years later, the house still stands in Novo Leone, but it has transformed to a preschool for some reason. Oh, let's put more kids there, right, And to this day, several employees and teachers say that you can hear the girl's creaming or see her spirit appear near the windows. Wow. Wow, wow, Wow. That was sad. That's creepy. Yeah and sad. Yeah. You know, after I listened to that or not listen to watch that episode of Hunting Latin America, I thought that the mom was just going through a very stressful time and was just to busy the kids. And I think that shows that's what that's what I did from it. Yeah, I mean it happens, it happens, it does. So next we have la. If you ever find yourself in the Bosque de Chapultepec in Mexico City, you might want to avoid crossing any bridges you might find, because it's said that at the end of one of these bridges is the house of Is there like an actual address so that I can't avoid it? Can you help me avoid it by giving me the exact address? We'll see. But if you're one of the many who want to explore the haunted and abandoned house, just know that you must risk your life to get there, as it's said that in order to get into the massive house, you have to go through a steep valley and walk on large and celebrity steps made out of rock before you come across a path that leads you to a bridge. But the bridge is the hardest part of the trip. The bridge is in ruins, It's covered in rust and has no foundation. How do you cross it? I don't know. Maybe you have to like hang on it, like Shrek. Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, I was thinking a Shrek and Dunky when they have to walk across and they're like hanging there. Yeah, exactly what I'm picturing. Wow, No, I wouldn't. I simply could not physically do that. Those who get to the home report hearing an older women screamed that many believe belonged to thea once lived in the house fifty years ago. She was known as a kind and generous woman who opens her house to homeless children, and then they killed her. Well, let's find out. The older women would feed and clothe the children and give them a warm place to sleep, but the story says that a number of the children she helped were loud and rebellious and drove the old woman insane. One day, she couldn't take it anymore. The woman poisoned the children and then dragged their bodies to the nearby river and disposed of their bodies. I feel like she could she just had to say no more visiting me. She could have kicked them out right. Yeah, like, my house is no longer open to you, And that's okay. I don't think it was necessary. It was unnecessary to do all this. Yeah, later, that night, the woman was overwhelmed with guilt, and while in her room, she killed herself as a punishment. Others say that the Toia was pushed over the edge when she found the children stealing her money and jewelry, and raged by the betrayal, the'a Tonia either beat the kids to death or took an axe and hacked the kids pieces to pieces and before throwing them to the river. Oh my god, Donya, Donia, Donna, take a step back, Donia. I feel like there were other steps that could have been taken before you grabbed an axe and started hacking away, Like, I feel like, yeah, did you think about breathing? Did you think about leaving the room, taking the deep breaths streaming into a pillow, like that could be done? You know, wow? Yeah, man, Yeah, it was expecting this. Okay, I'm shocked, camel On. Okay. There's one version of the legend that says those actually the children who selfishly banded together to kill the old women so they could take her money. But their plan never worked out like they wanted to, because the old woman's spirit returned to haunt them until they died. Interesting, very different versions of events here. Because one is told by the kids and one is told by Donia's family. But what's the truth. I don't know. Maybe it's somewhere in the middle. I don't know how you get the middle from now. But I don't know what would the middle be. I don't know, no matter what version you believe. The adventure seekers who have risked their lives to reach the home report, in addition to the loud screams, an old woman's shadow is also seen it waiting by the windows. Those who are brave enough to enter the home say you can feel a dark presence immediately upon entering the home. Reports of hearing children's laughter and seeing tiny shadows running through the hallways are also common, but no one has been able to reach the old women's bedroom since. Many have reported that the frightening paranormal activity spikes as you approach the bedroom and has scared visitors off their property. It's even said that years ago, a group of twenty three students died while trying to make it to the house. It's a big group. It's a big group of yeah, students, that would make sense. This is a field trip. I don't know. The students were crossing the bridge when they fell through the rusty structure. Oh my god, that's a lot of people trying to get through a bridge like that. Yeah. The legend is still popular in Mexico City, and nowadays local officials have spoken out against a legend to deter people from trying to visit it. Some reports also say that the house has been demolished and turned into a luxury residence. Wow wow, I wonder if there's any newer boards from that luxury residence. I would want to know, right well, what a wild ride? He was shocked, asked, was I not expecting that at all? Wow? Wow? That's all we had to say. Wow. Yeah, what else is there to say? Wow? Noles Wow, that's actually its wow? No, no wow, not wow wow. Okay, Well is that it? Okay? So we'll take a little at break here and then we'll come back with my story. Here. Let's give a quick shout out to our newest patron member, Fred who just became a member of the No Mammes. Super serious, spooky. I still have to send your key chain out, but I will, I promise, And a shout out to the rest of our members, Am Marine Drosadio, Avery Lissandro Robin Oryan, Wesley and Leslie, Leslie and Wesley, Jessica escavel alec Ils, Period, gul Corina man Nied Mal Hilary Archer, Marlene, Patricia, Marilyn Lupe, Jorge Anastasia, Linda, Juan, Clarissa, Becky, La Angel, Helfire Herzon, Alejandro Laney something rather than That. 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Yeah, and this is what historians call the ten years Civil War that happened from nineteen forty eight to nineteen fifty eight in Colombia. The conservative and the liberal political parties fought in the countryside mostly and it started with the assassination of Jorge Gaetan, the Liberal party presidential candidate who was looking like he was going to win. And then, of course, instead of letting him when they killed him, causing the war. And during these ten years, at least two hundred thousand people died, including Pedro Lonslopez's dad, who was part of the right wing party. So he came from a very large family. It was him and twelve siblings. Wow. And the family was very low income. And it's alleged that his mom was a sex worker. According to reports, he had to witness his mom being assaulted and abused by her clients. It's very unfortunate, like no one should have to see that. Yeah, and he also didn't have a good relationship with his mom. She was physically abusive, and at some point, when he was eight years old, his mom kicked him out of the house because he was caught abusing one of his sisters, like touching them inappropriately. Oh wow, how old was he? Twelve? You sent eight? Oh wow to me? And again this is like speculating. So I know some people don't like that, but to me, that's like someone had to be doing it to him for him to know what to do, you know. Yeah, or he was witnessing his mom from that too, that too, Yeah, yeah, like he was seeing it. He had to have seen it. But yeah, some exposure to it, because otherwise it's not usually regular, right behavior, typical behavior. Yeah, So she kicked him out of the house and he was left to fend for himself. At eight years old. He then made his way to Bogata, and he became just a kid living on the streets and there's like a group of kids oh oh okay, and they have a term for them. While trying to survive, he came across a man who offered him a place to sleep, but instead of doing that, the man took him to an abandoned building and assaulted him, Oh, sexually assaulted him. God, so many people take advantage of like vulnerable. Yeah, children like that absolutely disgusting. It's terrible and like most kids on the streets do. He ended up joining a gang for protection. While he was living on the streets. Part of this gang, he came across an American couple that wanted to help him. They gave him a place to stay and enrolled him in a school for orphans. But this was short lived because yet again another adult just like fucking everything up. A teacher began to abuse him and he ran away. Somebody like just somebody adults like failing him, like he kind of you know, the what he went on to do could have been prevented. Maybe, I don't know, possibly, I mean, we know, like these kind of people have childhoods like this and write. I don't know, I don't think it's a major cause, but it is a factor, I guess, certainly a contributing factor. Yeah. So after this, he really started to participate in gaining activities like stealing cars to make a living. At some point, and either it's unclear, but at either age eighteen or twenty one or in between that time, he was arrested for stealing a car and sentenced to seven years in jail. And during his incarceration, he was unfortunately sexually assaulted again by two inmates. It's just like two or three inmates. When someone experienced so much violence, like, they usually go on to enact violence too. Yeah, around this time, to prevent you know, more attacks, he used like a makeshift knife and he killed one of the attackers. Two years got added on to his seven year sentence, for a total of nine years. Wait, how old was he when he was in was sent to jail or prison between eighteen and twenty one. Oh, okay, gotcha, gotcha. He was released from jail in nineteen seventy eight, and then he left the country. He headed south and settled in Ayacucho, Peru, also in the Andes. While he was in Peru, he sought out again people that belonged to like the most vulnerable groups, right, So he sought out indigenous girls from lower income families or just like didn't have families, you know that type of thing. He would convince them to follow him to a remote or abandoned area where he would then rape and murder them. He was actually captured trying to abduct a nine year old girl from an Ayakuchuan tribe. The tribe surrounded him and detained him and put him to trial. They took his clothes that decided that they would punish him by burying him in the sand. That's how he was to be killed. This was their system. But this never happened because an American missionary convinced the tribe to let him go and hand him over to the Peruvian police instead. But the police didn't do anything. What a shame, Yeah, because then he went on to do more terrible things. So instead the police deported him from Peru. And it hasn't been confirmed, but he claims that while he was in Peru, he killed over one hundred girls, mostly indigenous. Wow. Hopefully not, Yeah, hopefully he's just lying because a lot of these people. Yeah. So for the next few years he traveled back and forth between Ecuador, Columbia, and Peru, and during this time, several young girls went missing, but police failed to investigate most of the cases and they just thought that the girls were victims of human trafficking and so they didn't look into it at all. In nineteen seven nine, the number of girls in Ambato, Ecuador. It's spiked like if there was a graph. There was a notable miles spike when he was there, and they's believed this was him. That same year, a river near Ambato overflowed and exposed the bodies of four missing girls who washed up ashore after the river overflowed, and those girls had been raped and then strangled, and it became a national story. In February nineteen eighty when a known businessman, bakery owner Hakome, became worried about his nine year old daughter who had gone missing. She failed to show up at home. That's so young, yeah, nine years old? Ivan Nova Ivanova? Wow, what do you nick name? Unless it's kind of there, but I've never heard it me neither unique name to me. No same. So she normally would go home, you know, right after school or to his job, and she when she didn't do either of those things, the family became worried, so Carlos Haakome put up fires, reported to the police, and she was found twenty two days after she went missing on March ninth, nineteen eighty, in a wooded area, and she had also been assaulted and strangled. Oh my God, and that's when there started being more attention to like, oh wait, more girls have gone missing in this town. So there were more bodies found, more girls they were identified as some of the other girls had gotten missing throughout that time, and they also began to show up in rural areas outside of the town. On March ninth, Pedro Lonz Lopez was in Plazad Rubino's market selling trinkets when he approached the food stand owned by Cadlina Ramon. He acted like he was interested in the food, but she noticed him observing her eleven year old daughter, Maria. Oh my god, mad Yeah, had also told her mom that Pedro at some point during all this, had asked her to go with him, trying to lure her away. She didn't listen, and she told her mom instead. She was obviously shocked and alarmed by what her daughter told her, and so she and this is all like in the same capitating in the same like as he was leaving the food stand. Basically, so she when her daughter said this to her, she started yelling and crying out her help. And then the rest of like the merchants and shoppers heard her and they stopped him from leaving, they apprehended him good, so then he was taken into custody, but he refused to cooperate and even when officers beat him up a little bit, which is wrong, but he did refused to admit anything. The police Captain Pastor Cordoba became frustrated because like, this wasn't going anywhere, and so he was like, I'm gonna look at this differently, and then instead of beating him up, he decided to befriendz Good. Yeah, I guess works because he started opening up about his past crimes. He's like, hey, hey, I told these guys who stop beating you up. I'm here to help, Like I'm your friend. You do you want some water? I ordered some food, some coffee. Yeah, man, yeah, I worked. Wow, you want to listen to the medium. But it worked because he started opening about his crimes and he told him like, stop looking into these human trafficking rings. There are none. It's me. It's all me, and he confess to the following crimes. So he was passing by ivan Nova's house when ivan Nova poked her head out of the door. He noticed her standing outside and once she went back inside, and he made sure that she was alone. He knocked on the door and told ivan Nova that he was a friend of her parents and he handed over like ten supres dollars and he told ivan Nova that her parents wanted her to go with him to the market and if she didn't listen, her parents were to be mad. So she listened and she went with him. That's when she went missing and was never seen again. Terrible pether Alonzo Lopez then took police to a bridge on the outskirts of Ambato bordering the town of Piqua, and they started to The police started to dig under the bridge and that's when they found the body of eleven year old Ortensia Garce, who disappeared on May fifth, nineteen seventy nine, while selling newspapers to help prepare her pregnant mom. Wow So he had approached Ortensia while she was crossing the bridge joining the two towns. He purchased a copy of the newspaper from her and then asked her if she could be his guide because he was new to the town, and he offered her money for this her, obviously trying to help out her mom, agreed like she needed money, so she followed him into the outskirts of town, where he assaulted her several times, then strangled her, and then buried her and and her newspapers under the bridge. And then he led police to This is insane. He led police to one hundred and ten locations across the country where he had buried his victims' bodies. Some they did find bodies that others were empty. There was nothing there, and they figured it was likely because of construction that had been done there or like animals moving potentially moving body parts. Most of these murders were all similar, like same mo so it was there was like actual like these all these girls were missing, even if the bodies weren't found, Like he wasn't exaggerating. Yeah, so well, he couldn't like say all names of all of them. He just like took them to locations. And at the locations that were found there were girls that had gone missing, but not all the locations had Like I was just wondering if he was like exaggerating or if it was true. I feel like some of it was probably exaggerating, and obviously some of it was true because they were found. I'm hoping because if it really had been that many, that's a lot that's an insane amount. Yeah. So most of the murders were similar and usually included the following him befriending a young girl or trying to befriend them, offer them money, or trick them to get them into a secluded area. And then they all had the same They were all assaulted and strangled during the During media interviews, Pedro Lon Lopez confessed that he was this is such a discussing thing that he said, but he told the media he was drawn to indigenous girls of Ecuador because they were gentle or innocent, trusting and willing to help him. More like, Oh, I'm just like so grossar right now. Yeah. Yeah. He also admitted to targeting young girls who were more vulnerable, which, yeah, it's easier that way, yecause then there's less people asking questions. He said during these interviews that he at times tried to abduct foreigners, but that was harder because their parents seemed more protective. He eventually confessed to killing one hundred girls in Ecuador and then a total of three hundred girls throughout Ecuador, Peru, and Colombia. Oh my god, that's so many, it's insane. He was eventually charged for the rape and murder of one hundred and ten girls and Wow. Fourteen months after he was captured, he faced the judge but only pleaded guilty to fifty seven murders, but it confessed to even more during his interrogation. He was dubbed the Monster of the Andes and the death penalty had been previously banned in Ecuador, so he wasn't facing the death penalty, but a bunch of people were calling for his execution, but this was rejected and he was sentenced to sixteen years in prison. Because in Ecuador, the justicism did not allow for consecutive sentences for multiple murders. He was only sentenced for one murder, even though he pled guilty to fifty seven. Now that's wild, right, But on top of that, he didn't serve the full sixteen years. He only served thirteen because of good behavior and he was handed over to the Colombian authorities since he was illegally in Ecuador. The Colombian authorities began to charge Pedro Lonzo Lopez for the murder of Flaud Sanchez. She had been found again, just like the other girls, assaulted and strangled in Leespianal, Colombia, in May nineteen seventy nine, and she went missing after he had arrived in the what was his hometown, so like very coincidental there, like he gets there and then a girl who was missing within a day of him being there. Four more girls had been killed in the same way in these towns on the all the nearby towns by where he lived. And he after he was now in Colombia, he and then arrest did he confessed to killing several girls in Lesbia, Columbia, and he was surprised that the police never cut on that it was him. When Colombian authorities finally put him to trial, they were looking for the maximum sentence of sixty years six stage zero yeaes six Zeroka. But unfortunately, somehow, once again, he was not sentenced because a psychiatrist ruled him not mentally stable enough to stand trial. Fuck that psychiatrists, Yeah, and Bedron Lopez went on to tell the media and like psychiatrists, he committed the crimes that he committed because life stole his innocence from him when he was eight, so he was going to do the same. That's no, that's like such an excuse. Yeah, yeah, Like again, a lot of people go through very if not obviously not the same circumstances, very similar circumstantus and they never go on to do any of these things. Yeah. Yeah. He was sent to a mental facility for treatment. Three years later, he was declared and he was released and free to go on to live his life. His mother tells a different story. She says that although the family was poor, they grew up in a living home, so none of the abuse of is true. She also says that she was actually a laundry worker, not a sex worker. She also said that she never kicked him out, that he left on his own when she remarried and had more kids. But that's weird because he was so young. So honestly, I don't know, And obviously I feel like I don't think a mom would go out and admit this. I'm not saying this to defend him, but also like, if those things are true, she wouldn't admit to those things, right, right, so I could I don't know if I fully believe or Also, like, he was like eight when he left the home. Eight year olds can't decide to leave their home, that's right, ridiculous. Yeah. She also apologized to the family of the victims instead that if she knew she was going to give Okay, this is like this is a lot. So she said, if she knew she gave birth to a monster, she would have killed him herself. But it's like you don't know those kind of things. Yeah. Plus he's the only responsible for these things, right, like no matter what I think, right, no matter his upgrad upbringing. Yeah, like he still did those things himself. Yes, yeah, so yeah, after all this, like the trial everything, when he was let go from the mental institution or whatever that he was at, so once he was like free to you know, live his life. He stopped by his mom's house demanding money, and she was scared and just gave him some of her things to sell, and then he walked into the Andes and disappeared. In two dozen two, the Colombia National Police and Interpol issued warrants for his arrest over a new murder that fit his mo wow, And then they were not able to locate him at all, so in two dozen and five the warrant was deactivated. In twenty twelve came up again. He was named a possible suspect in a homicide in Dunka, Columbia. Jesus up to now he remains a fugitive and he's never been seen again. Well, like, how old would he be? Now, let's say he was so nineteen forty eight, he was born K eight, I mean that's so old. Seventy six. Yeah, so that's I mean, that's pretty old. Yeah, And this kind of case, like I can't, Like I don't like doing serial killer cases in Latin America solely because it has to be about the serial killer. Like, you can't. We can't share more about the victims because there's so little known about them, especially in a case like this where all almost all his victims were like orphaned indigenous girls. Yeah, like we can't because I like, you know, as much as I can try to share what I can about, you know, the people affected by this, and I can't, And I'm like try to, but I mean that's a pretty significant case, significant case. I don't love America. So at the same time, I'm like, yeah, they should be shared, but I'm like, I just don't like talking about them this much. Yeah. Wow, But I mean what a terrible story. Yeah, And it's also so depressing because then it's just like it goes nowhere. He's like, all right, he just he was like, oh, he probably committed more crimes after he was like oh and then yeah he was never seen again. Yeah. It's just there's no like relief in parts of anything. Yeah, there's like no, well what you said? Yeah, sorry, I know it was, but yeah, that was the Monstre de Los Angeles. Yeah, all right, spooky recommendations, let me see if I had We're down. I think I know it was. I finished an audiobook. I did a lot of talk about mind while you're looking for yours. Go ahead. So my speaky recommendation is the show from a while back. Someone told me I would like it because of my obsession with the one King Dead, and then I'm remaning to check it out and I just had it and then I finally did and I finished it all like in three or four days. Wow again, because I have problems. But there's three seasons. The third season just finished like last Sunday. But it's potential spoilers because I don't know how to describe anything without giving parts of it of the plot away. But this family gets stuck in this town that wait, you didn't even say what it's called yet. Oh my bad. From I thought I said, from Oh, and then I would say the where's from? You might have said it about I think I caught it because it's such a like it's just a word, like right, what a terrible name for like seo purposes, like if you try to search, I feel like if you were to try to search, like from where's the show from? Like from what? From what? Casts from from from what? So, Yeah, it is very a very like but then it makes sense when you learn. So this family get stuck in this town, and this town like everyone gets stuck in it. Nobody can explain why they're stuck in this town. Like they're just driving and then there's a road, but the tree that's fallen over. Everybody sees this tree, and then they get stuck in this town. There's these creatures that come out at night and like attack them ooh, and they're safe at night as long as they're in a house that has this like talisman that's up and if nobody like opens the doors, because then these creatures like try to trick you to letting them in so that they're gonna attack you. Very Sylum's not like where they're like the first episode, in the first ten minutes, it was insane. There's this little girl in her house. Then you know it's nighttime and this thing is knocking and she opens the window and then it's this old lady and that's aside. At some point she's but you don't look at my grandma. Oh my god. And then she opens the door and the thing immediately just rip is show on. The first season is on AMC. I gotta give you my login. Oh you have that? Yes, I got it to watch all the walking deck things, remember, yeah, and it was so cheap. I just did the yearly thing the year yeah, because also you gets shutter with it and also watch all these gay movies. Shut her heads like satanic hispanics. Did I say that wrong? I think you said about say ten X. That doesn't make sense. Whatever, move on, anyway, they're all there. Anyway. Point is season one is on there, but season two and three are on. I got them on the MGM Plus subscription through Prime like just I just added it on and I cancel it because season four is not coming until twenty twenty six, but so far from now. Yeah, but you know what, when we visit, we can watch, we can get through if you start season and one. If I give you like the log in, you know, we can watch it together and then I'll cancel it after that. But yeah, it's so good. It's just it's so spooky. There's so many serious mysterious like there's so many questions about the town, the creatures. It's so funny because as your I rarely watch shows like in real time as other people are watching them, And then I found the stubreddit and some people are coming up with the most insane theories that just make no sense, and I'm like, just watch the show. People are out of pocket with their shit. I don't I don't even like going on somebody's for shows because I'm like, first of all, sometimes they ask the dumbest questions like why did she do this? And it's like cool, they didn't, like what do you want them to do? Yeah? Yeah, they're getting out of hand over there. It's but the show. I highly recommend it. I think every episode just feels like some people feel like there was a it's like pointless, but it's like, okay, you gotta like like a mysterious creepy thing to like the show, like otherwise than it's like why you've been watching but no, But it's really good. So yeah, that's my recommendation. Okay. I finished the audiobook Lone Woman by Victor Laval, and yeah, it was amazing. I rated a five out of five. Let me read the synopsis real quick, Blue Sky's Empty Hand, and enough Wide Open Space which makes me think of that song by The Chicks. Anyway, that's not part of the description. A wide open space to hide a horrifying secret, a woman with the past, am a serious trunk, a town on the edge of nowhere, and a bracing new vision of the American West. From the award winning author of The Changeling, Adelaide, Henry carries an enormous steamer trunk with her wherever she goes. It's locked out all times, because when the trunk opens, people around Adelaide start to disappear. The year is nineteen fifteen and Adelaide is in trouble. Her secret sin killed her parents, forcing her to flee California and a hellfire rush and make her way to Montana as a homesteader, dragging the trunk with her at every stop. She will become one of the lone women taking advantage of the government's offer of free land for those who contame it, except that Adelaide isn't alone, and the secret she's tried so desperately to lock away might be the only thing that will help her survive the harsh territory. Crafted by a modern master of magical suspense, Lone Women blends shimmering pros, an unforgettable cast of adventurers who find horror and sisterhood in a brutal landscape, and a portrait of early twentieth century America like you've never seen, and at its heart is the gripping story of a woman desperate to bury her past or redeem it. I do want to get the book to actually read it, because thee I always miss parts when I'm listening, but what I did catch amazing. I want to try to find that review. It's such a I don't know. It's like when you shared about the book you read of his. I don't know. It's like, I love a horror story that has like deeper meanings behind it. You know what I mean? Oh? Yeah, like the societal commentary. Yeah, with my horror, that is what I love. I mean to I love when my my horror gets political. I don't give a fuck. Same same people are like keep keep book talk political free and I'm like, give me more, give me metics. Actually, but also it's it's very silly to like say, to have that belief because like literature media, it's like all social commentary. Otherwise it's like what's the point to me? I don't know. Yeah, but it's like a small town horror, which is not small town horror. It's like small town Uh, it's like homesteadying, like they're making a new fron tier and part of America that's not really settled quote settled, which the book does get into a little bit like this is not, of course it else land that this is actually yeah, yeah it was already someone's yeah, okay, God damn it. I can't find it. Is it this? I was gonna say, I love a small town horror because that's also from from It's a very small town horror because they're trapped in this tiny town. It gives me in the very Salem lots vibes. I can't find the review that I was like amazing, Yes, but there was like themes of like like shame, like holding on to shame as a family, passing on shame, generation trauma, like love me some generation found family, racism. You're saying all the things that I love it. Yes, yeah, I'll just I'll just leave it at that, Okay, Okay, all right, well I'm excited to uh read it. What's it called again? Lone woman? Lone Woman? Okay, I'm gonna And also, yeah, did you know that the there was women home setters, like just all on their own. Yeah, I didn't know that. I'm surprised they didn't have to have a man with them. Yeah, very interesting. I didn't know that. Okay, Well, are we at the end here? I believe we are. 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