La Mano Peluda: Katia

Hi, This is Christina and Carmen and this is another episode of Spooky Tells, the podcast for all Things spooky, sometimes to crime with the paranormal, but today just a paranormal story because surprise, surprise, I'm sick. I was laughing when we were with their cousin Bologna, and he's like, every time I fucking listen to the podcast, Christina is always like, I'm fucking sick. I'm sick. He's like, you need to vitamin see or something. I don't know we need. It was so funny. He was sick of it. He was sick of it. And are we all? Oh? I was gonna say, are we all sick of me being sick? I am too. Yeah, I have the immune system of a fish. No, I don't know what their immune system is, like, you have the immune sism of a parent. Yeah, you're right. That reminds me about what a Chapel Roone said about that you're all miserable. Look, she's from the Midwest. Okay. The girls in the mire from the fact of being alone being in the Midwest not I'm just kidding. They're in the trenches. Modesto is like the Midwest of California. So if anything, I feel you, But I'm not a parent, so I'm not miserable like them. As chapel Bone would say, I'm sorry. You can't make me hate chapel Roone. No, no, because she's right. As a parent, Listen, I don't remember anything from newborn to three years old. I was in the trenches. Okay. Yeah, and now that they're older, it's like a little bit more chill. Now it's not miserable. But back then, and I think that's what she's talking about, because she's twenty seven, that's around the time most people are having their sub kids. Yes, yeah, that is no joke that no one can tell me. That's sleeping two hours every four hours. Is it gonna make you miserable? It No, And I, as a parent completely agree, like it is the most miserable thing ever. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, enough of enough of Chapelone. I forgot already. I don't remember. Oh because you're sick, because you're al sick because your parent and I'm miserable. Yeah right, and she's right, that's why, that's why that happened. Yes, yes, oh man, anyway, yeah, so yeah again, I'm sick. Point of all that. I'm sick. I'm sick. This is a short episode because I'm sick. Yeah, I'm going to stop saying those two words for today. Okay. But before we get into the topic, which is whenever we need a short episode and I feel like it, just yeah yeah. So we're talking about a very scary case from manoplu that. But before all that, we have a listener's story. Okay, So this story comes from Lily. Thank you Lily. Hi ladies, big fan. I've always wanted to share this story, but I never know how to do an introduction, so I'm getting right into it. I love it. When I was about nine or ten years old, my mom and my two younger siblings and I lived in a small, one bedroom apartment. In the one bedroom, we had bunk beds. My brother and I slept on the top bunk, and my sister and my mom on the bottom bunk. The bunk beds were made out of metal, and since we got them secondhand, they creaked really bad with any move or when anyone climbed on or off, or even if we sat down on the bottom bunk. Across the street from a very small apartment complex was a convenience store. They give it like a neighborhood hangout. We nei the owner or the owner knew us. Now, I as the oldest child with immigrants, I was always super responsible and put myself to bed early. Wow, very eldest immigrant child. Codd yes, and put myself to bed early every night because I didn't want to be tired for school. Precious on this particular night, I did just that, but I kept the room late. On my mom came in the room and said her and my siblings would be running across the street to the store, and they even took chihua wa. You know, Chihuahuas are yappers. You know. She went to bed like at seven pm or some shit. You know, it's like, you know, six forty five. Actually, do you remember when we used to get in trouble and then our mom used to make us go to sleep in the summertime. Look at six pm, I get so mad. So yeah, this was six pm. We know it. The family in the chihuahua running to the store, and she's going to bed. She closes the bedroom door and I hear them all leave. It was not unusual not to lock the door because they'd be right back, and you could literally see our apartment from the store. I usually left facing the wall, covered from head to toe. About a minute later, I hear the room door open again, and I assume someone came back because they forgot something. However, it's really quiet, and I get this instant feeling of dread. Too quiet. It's not sleep paralysis because I was not asleep. I had barely gone to bed. I was completely awake. My heart sink. I heard whoever came in sit down on the bottom bunk, because, like I said, our beds were creaky. I thought, maybe it's my mom. I'll just ask for water and see what they respond. But I couldn't bring myself to it. Something in me wouldn't let me speak or move. The person in the bottom bunk gives a big audible sigh, gets up, and I heard them once again open the room door to leave. I still can't move. A few minutes past and I hear my family come in through the front door again. I asked my sister if one of them came back, and she said no one. I said nothing else. I am now thirty one, and to this day, no one knows who came in, whether it was something supernatural or a weirdo who saw my family leave. We were poor and lived in a bad neighborhood apartment complex. I just remember every cell in my body filled with complete terror. Regardless, I almost think the actual human stranger is scarier, and I don't even want to imagine what I would have encountered had I asked for water and it hadn't been my mom. I know it's not a super long, crazy story, but I think about it a lot and will probably never know who was in my room with me that night. Thank you ladies for listening. I love love the podcast. Wow. I definitely think it was something supernatural paranormal because I feel like if it was a human being, unfortunately, they would have done something to her, because what kind of human being would go and sit in a bed and then not do anything, you know, or at least it would have like stolen something or you know, I don't know, you know, or said something. Yeah yeah, but for sure stolen something. People are usually looking for something, so no one goes into a house and leave something hand for no reason. Yeah yeah, yeah, So yeah, I'm gonna go with a tired ghost. The ghost just stat for a little bit and it's sighed. I was like, and then left. That would make me feel better because I'd rather encounter a ghost like that than a human than a person. Yeah, then an actual person in my house? Like yeah, I think so too. Anyway, that's enough freedom for me. Might throwers? Yeah yeah, stop talking now, all right, let's get into it. So this is the Gatia from The Manoplula. I don't think we need to say what La Mano is at this point in the podcast. No, I don't think so, but but but we will anyway, radio show where people would call it and tell their scary stories and it was like super popular and wild. Yeah, think Coast to Coast but Mexico. I still don't know what Coast to Coast is. Okay, well think LaMnO Polula but why you Okay, you don't know who Art Bell is and Coast to Go our belli Art Bell Art Bell. No, he's the host of Coast to co No, I don't know who that is. They've had some crazy calls, really think shut up like La Mano Polua. But in the US. Okay, so Gatia called La Manoplula and said, are you the help me? I'm possessed? First words like yeah, imagine answering the phone, isn't that you? Four days before her call to Juanda Moon Science, she and her friends were playing La Wika or Luigi. During this Wuiji board session, Gatia and her friend Bati were making fun of the situation and they started mocking the board. I don't do that. It's like, no, if you're gonna for whatever reason, touch born, I said, which is you said? And my love No, I said, twishi. I don't know why I said that. It's because I was saying touch and ouigi, like you forget to touch a wiji bord. And then I said Tuiji, I don't know. Yeah, I probably shouldn't say nothing. Yeah. Suddenly the lights went out and the room got extremely cold. Then they heard these horribleadas or laughs. The four of them were terrified, and her friends decided to go home. Five minutes when by and the light came back. Gatia went to leave the board in the patio, and when she got back inside, her parents had returned. They had been at a reunion. Katia told them what happened, and they told her none of that was true. This kind of stuff wasn't real, and she had been influenced by her friends but Gatya was convinced by their attempts at reassurance, and things only got worse. When she went to bed that night, I just thought, like Scooby do, like real row, And then I remembered that TikTok where people are seeing that kaga do sounds like Scooby doo. Scooby doo. Yeah, oh my god, Okay, tell me why. Enough champagne to fill the nye sack? In my head, I saw way too many, but one of them khalel no, Yeah, okay, that's circulating like all the lines. Enough champagne to fill the nile Kalel no. I need you to give me the stone bit, are you gal? Okay? Okay. When she was in she felt a rush of cold air and saw a bunch of shadows. The shadows kept telling her they were going to kill her and that she doesn't remember, and then she didn't remember what happened. She must have passed out. The next morning when her parents woke up woke her up, she was acting crazy. She was talking in the voice of a man and telling them a bunch of grosidias. Oh no, she was like, hellol no, enough champagne to fill the Nile. That's what she said to them. Wow. Crazy, it was so bad that the servant quit on the spot. Okay first, wow, Second they had a servant. Okay, okay, okay, okay, got the ice, you and your family. Since then, she had a blacked out all least three times, and her parents had taken her two different specialists to try and figure out what was wrong with her. During her call, Katia Beegshua did I'm want for help? She told them her parents are worried that she's tired, and her parents keep getting mad at her. She keeps on begging for help. Kwandermone tells her he of course is going to help and that she needs to calm down, Calm down, calm calm down. Sorry. If anyone hasn't watched them. Was a show called it was It was like a parody of the Real Housewives reality show, and it was called The Real Housewives of Something. I think, but yeah, it's just funny and I think we Yeah, everyone was in Angela from the Office, Angela from the Office. Yeah, and yeah, there's an episode where they all start fighting because they started telling each other calm down, and they're like, yeah, this one thing you never tell a woman. It's a it's a calm down. Yeah, and anyway that's the reference. Yeah, okay, well was Kwandamon told her she needs to calm down. Then he asks her if she believes in god es. Katya is answering Kuandamon. She tells him the shadows are coming, and she starts screaming and crying They're coming, They're coming. Quandamon is telling your please calm down, Katya. Then the phone sounds like it falls. Then there's a voice that says, do get the meta spend well that is cleard quickly wow. But Kanda keeps asking for Katya, but the voice says, oh you think you're so smart? What your degree? Stop? But Guadamon keeps asking for Katya. I'm not sorry. Judam keeps asking for Katya, but the voice says, oh you think you're so smart. If you get involved with what doesn't pertain to you again, I'm going to kill you two. Kuatemal then asks who is speaking, and the voice says, I'm asta Roth. He replies you're not as Roth and repeats Katya's name a few times before asking her to repeat after him. Jesus Christ is with me, Katya Danielle's shut up in son of a Bitch or beep I'm not sure which, Well it's a beep, do outs? I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure what cuss word she uses? What you know, but it could have been I feel like it. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, I'm gonna kill you. And then she is even louder, keeps repeating her name again and again, but she never replies. The call was cut. They end up calling back, but her dad answered the Phone's dad tells that he doesn't want le Mano believe that to call them back, that he started has a medical issue and she does not need an exorcism. That they don't believe in extorcisms, and it only exists in movies. And that's the end. No one knows what happened to Katya should listened to the creepiest part of the call. Yeah, let's do it. I know I. Got or this Tranquila Tranquillata Katya Katuca I s that the Katyata and l see Katia and Cua I left the remos Katya create it was the certain Katya Katya. Katia responding repeat hes a griso is that other ka Tranquila gratia scucci i satia power such by the Katya katya scucia katya. Okay. The reason it wasn't scared to me is because she sounds like she's in an episode of That's why I have to say I agree. Then when she's when he says like who am I speaking to? Or she like laughs a little bit and then says, as that ales that part was great. Yeah, I guess we should talk a little bit about us now. I want to say it in Spanish as yeah, who is he? Who is she? He is the grand Duke of Hell, of the first demonic hierarchy two which bails above and Lucifer also belongs, So he's like up there, up there, top tier demon so as the Rod is depicted as a naked man with wings and the hands and feet of a dragon and a second pair of feathered wings beneath the main one, So he has two sets of wings. Yes, wow, cool. He wears a crown and he holds a snake in one hand, and he writes a wolf or a dog. I'm sorry he sounds kind of. He has two methods of transport, actually three methods of transportation. His first set of wing to second set of wings and the dog or wolf. So that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. The Duke has four demons to directly serve him Amn, Pruslass, Barbados, and russ chivarec russiavac interesting. August is the month during which this demons attacks, not August, uh right, so that's when his demon, this demons attacks against men are stronger. I don't like that, neither think. I don't know the application, no right. According to Sebastian mckelly's he's a demon of the first hierarchy who seduces by means of a laziness, self doubt and rationalized philosophies. Whatever that means, I don't know. He makes you lazy with doubt yourself maybe, but I don't know. What I don't know is rationalized philosophy. I don't know what that is. Yeah, too dumb, and I don't feel like think you're the same same. His adversary is Saint Bartholomew, who can protect against him, for he has resisted asteroists temptations. Okay, Bartholomew Bartellome YOUU to others. He teaches mathematical scientists and handicrafts can make it sounds great. It doesn't sound bad to me. He can make men invisible and lead them to hidden treasures and answers every question formulated to him. Okay, doesn't sound too bad. And he was also said to give to mortal beings the power over serpents. Okay, so far, he doesn't sound too bad. What is kabbala? Kabbala also spilled with a C or a q, sometimes translated as mysticism or a cult knowledge as a part of Jewish tradition that deals with the essence of God. Okay, so, a sacred text, experience, or the way things work. Cabalists believe that God moves in mysterious ways, an esoteric method, discipline, or school of thought in Jewish mysticism. Okay, interesting. So in that school of thought, Astaroth was a co sanatory of a diabolical pact with Urbane Grandeur and was a demon thought responsible for possessing the nuns in the convent of Louden Is. I say, Ludon, Oh, this is a crazy story. I need to find I listened to it. I don't remember what podcast it was, but they covered it's like the I think you can either find it the Possession of Ludon or the Exorcism of Ludon. But it's a group of nuns. Maybe we could do it for a patron. Yeah, yeah yeah. In the Black Maths ceremony used by notorious French poisoner Love Between, Asteroth was called a prince of friendship. He is a servant demon to those born August seventh, three elevens. I'll tell my friends who are born between these dates, like, hey, this is your servant demon. You have a servant demon and his name is Astroth and his fall from heaven. Astaroth, like many of the fallen angels that fell from Heaven, was an angel that resided in Paradise and was a member of the Thrones. Due to his position as a throne, he was highly ranked amongst the choir of Angels, as he would see to the caring of God's throne. However, he found himself joining Lucifer's side during the War in Heaven and was cast down to Hell alongside all other rebel angels. He was president at Pandemonium during Lucifer's rally. But what does that sound fun? It's sounds like a party, Yeah, a good time, officially declaring himself as an enemy of God forever after Lucifer and his rebel brothers conquered Hell while newly establishing it as their own kingdom. A hierarchy was formed during the process, with Astaroth aiding in the decreeen of noble positions. Hell would ultimately be ruled by the three some premium monarchs known as the Satanic Triumvirate, which consider consisted of Lucifer, Belsebub and Some. These three would be above and simultaneously be part of the Seven Kings of Hell, whom were the ruling body of the Inferno. Due to Asterod's influence and power, he would be closely affiliated with the Seven Great Kings and the Triumvirate as well, to the point where demonologists counted him among their number part of the seven. Okay, that was Astroos and that was what about that? He's a top tier demon got the ass possession? Wow, she was successed by king adjacent Yeah. Yeah, and that brings us to the end of the episode. Yes, I think so, can never go wrong with episode. And yeah, nobody knows what happened to Kat after that. Damn Well, hopefully she became unpossessed. Yeah, hopefully someone took her for a nextism yeah, yeah, I don't know, though, she could still be out there possessed right now. M mm hmmm. Don't like that. Oh, I guess what's take a little bronch here for spooky recommendations and we're backs. Do you have any Yeah, since we were speaking of satanic things and reminding me of two audiobooks I listened to this week. Oh, one was Black Sheep by Rachel Harrison. How was why stand now? I've read I think actually just two of her books. I thought I read more. It was good. I think you're right. Oh, it's because I want to read like two other ones. Uh, Calcole and there's a wearable one. Oh, such sharp teeth, I think, but I've only read two so far. So Black Sheep by Rachel Harrison. The description a cynical twenty something must confront her unconventional family's dark secrets, and this fiery, irreverent horror not from the author of such sharp Teeth and cackle. Nobody has a normal family, but Vesper writes, is truly something else. Vesper left home at eighteen and never looked back, mostly because she was told that leaving the staunchly religious community she grew up in meant she couldn't return. But then an envelope arrives on her doorstep. Inside is an invitation to the wedding of Vesper's beloved cousin Rosie. It's to be hosted at the family farm. Have they made an exception to the rule. It wouldn't be the first time Vesper has been giving special treatment. Is the invite a sweet gesture in olive branch? A trap? Doesn't matter? Something inside her insists she go to the wedding, even if it means returning to the toxic environment she escaped, even if it means reuniting with her mother, Constance, a former horror film star and forever Ice queen when Vesper's When Vesper's homecoming exooms a terrifying secret, She's forced to reckon with her family's beliefs and her own crisis of faith in this deliciously sinister novel that explores the way family ties can bind us as we struggle to find our place in the world. So I read it four out of five stars only because it was a little bit predictable, but it was so entertaining that I loved it either way, Okay, and it was what does this have to do with Satan. Well, this staunchly religious community that her family is involved in their Satanists. Oh, okay, and should I spoil it a little bit? Or no? I for one love us spoilers. So, yeah, her dad is Satan, but she doesn't know it yet. She it takes a while for her to find out her dad actually is. Okay, but I know I liked it. Yeah it was. It was good. It was funny in some parts. And who doesn't like reading about like toxic families? You know? I love it? Yeah. And then the other one I read, so I was gonna ask if you had another one? Okay, or listen to it? I should say this one is a little bit different. So it's called If Cats Disappeared from the World. It's a Japanese book translated to English, and it's by Ganki Kawamura. Hopefully he said that right. Okay. So this one says the postman's days are numbered. It's strange from his family, living alone with only his cat Cabbage to keep him company. He was unprepared for the doctor's diagnosis that he has only months to live. But before he can tackle his bucket list, the devil appears to him to make an offer. In exchange for making one thing in the world disappear, our narrator will get one extra day of life. And so it begins a very bizarre week. With each object that disappears, the Postman reflects and the life he's lived, his joys and regrets, and the people he's loved and lost. I guess that's kind of it. The rest is just like about the author, Okay, but yeah, sounds cool. It was like Quirky the Devil was kind of funny, and in the end he realizes how important his dad was to him. And there's nothing I love more than a makeup, a family makeup. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I rated that one four out of five. Wow, yeah, that sounds good. And guess what I'm listening to now. But i'mn't done yet. American Rapture. Oh my god, Yes, okay, we must, we simply must talk about it even more. Yeah we wait? Have we done our episode on religious nor for Patreon? No? Oh okay, because that's where I wanted to talk about it. So I'm excited that you are ready listening to it. I loved it. I loved it. I'm leaving it so far. I just don't like that narrator's voice. Yeah, I don't remember. It was okay, it was not amazing, I am. Yeah, it's not horrible. It's just not my favorite. Yeah, basically was sid Yeah. I had been trying to get through the audiobook for the Way of King by Brendan Sanderson, not whrror. It's like a fantasy y sci fi No, sorry, fantasy, I said fantasy. Yeah, I know, but then I said the wrong thing, and then I corrected myself even though you had already said it. That shit was like forty hours. Oh my god, that's like our share of a night. It was like thirty nine hours I think, or maybe no, it was less than that. My old run out and I didn't I had. I was like five percent through. Wow. I don't know if I can listen to a fantasy novel because I feel like there's also many so much going on. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know if I'll attempt that. I don't think so. But no, my actual speaker recommendation and it's not speaking more than it's actually true crime. It's in the crime genre of movies. But and I already talked about it for like forty seconds on TikTok, but it's called Breath Though or Noise. It's on Netflix, and wow, it's such a such a tragic but beautiful movie. This mom is searching for her daughter. Her daughter has been missing for like eight months at this point, and at the beginning of the movie, they're called to the office of like the investigators to see if it's her daughter, and like it was like, basically to them, a waste of time because like there doesn't even match the description of their daughter, Like their daughter had a very distinctive tattoo that actually matches her own, like her the mom and daughter had matching tattoos, and this body doesn't. So it's like the parents were like, why didn't you just look at this information that's already in the file. But like the last investigator left and he was replaced with someone else, so it's someone new and like just to show how how like, yeah, the system works where like people come and go and then like it's like starting over for the family and yeah, so from that point on, the mom basically is like, you know what, I need to find her. I need to look for her. And so she goes to the town and she's been there plenty of times. But she goes to the town where the daughter went. She was like on a vacation with her friends when she went missing, and she goes to the town. She starts from there, she meets with a journalist who's helping her. This journalist is with her the whole time. They're they're figuring this out together and they uncover, of course corruption. They also team up with another group of like mom searchers, that's Maddis and you know you see them, all of them have missing family members. They dedicated themselves to helping others find you know, people they look through suspected like like we I guess we talked about it on. No. Last episode of the Spanish episode. We talked about that's right, that's right, and it's like basically like that group, this is what they are in the movie because there's so many of them, like we said in that episode. Yeah, but then you can see the moms also like find joy in each other and it's like they're, you know, they've have been forced to become activists at this point because this is now activists work looking for the disappeared. But they also and it just made me think of you know, when people says, resistance is joy, But they don't mean like sit down and don't mean ignore current events and exactly by yourself a latte and read your booget, ignore the world. That's not what that means, right, Like these these women just went through looking at a very similar situation like rendro psychia, where they've collected groups of bodies, like like evidence bodies. Like it's like very similar. And at the end of the day they're like all together eating and then someone starts playing music they all start dancing together. That's that's what that means to me. Yeah, Like in this horribleness of them doing this horrible but meaningful work that they have been forced to do, they have found joining each other. And it's like the first time that the main character, the mom who's searching for her own daughter laughs. It's the first time she laughs in the hier movie is right there, and even there's all the little moments with her and the journalists where they like one of them will tell a joke or the other, and you know, but like it's it's it's it's it's such a good movie, but it's like it's so sad. And then she, uh, well, I don't want to. I don't want to spoil anything because I feel like everybody really should watch the movie. What is it on streaming Netflix? Netflix? Netflix? Yeah, there's another similar movie on Prime and I don't know I've heard of that one. I haven't seen it. I don't remember the name. Yeah, but this one is agree though. On Netflix. There's like there was a clip because you know, March eighth is International Women's Day and people go out and protests, and it's a huge deal in Latin America and Mexico, not so much here in the US, but here it's been commercialized, yes, but over there it's real, meaningful protests and people demanding justice for their loved ones. And so there's a depiction of a very similar like protest in the movie and it gets it gets insane. Wow. But there's a clip in the movie that was going around. The whole reason why I watched it because I came across the clip on TikTok where they're preparing for the protests and they're like in the central of this town and the main character is talking to a younger woman who's like bumming a cigarette off her and as she's running the girl, they're talking and they're having like a discussion, and then the girl gives her back, like you know, the cigarette. She's like, all right, I gotta go now, and then the main character is like, well, where are you going? And then she turns around. She's like what, don't tell me you're like one of the ones that care about the monuments more than the missing people. I saw that clip, but it's Spanish, like, oh, Apoco, it is the last call in Portellos Monumentos. It's like the clip that was going around, but that's the clip alone is like, well, let me check this movie out. And yeah, it's like an hour and a half long maybe, but such an impactful, important movie which I don't know much different than like I don't know, Yeah, e is right, he shoot she who must not be named they meant to say, and it's just yeah, that reminds me of a podcast I first came across through TikTok and it was a group of Mexican women who are like singing one of the popular songs that they always singing as a match as oh, I know which one? Yeah, And so then I checked out the podcast and it's called and it's a group of six women friends that's what they're called sas and they have an episode, Well, the episode where that clip came from is Feminism, and so I started listening to it. It's three hours long, so I'm not done yet. I was like, wow. But they talk about like what feminism means to them and how they came to become feminist, what they thought it meant before, and blah blah blah. And one thing there they keep joking about is because you know, when these clips of the women uprising basically in locentros and we're going viral years ago, the man would comment, So I said, no, some foremast know, some foremast that you know, to protest, right something, that's not the way to protest. So then they keep joking to each other. I said, no form But yeah, I mean, this is the only episode I've listened to so far, and I'm not done yet. But they're funny. And if you want to like practice, I guess you're Spanish and and hear more informal Spanish, I guess because I want to be able to talk like that. That's my goal. Whoever will but yeah, I know it's good. Anyway, I'll have to I'll have to check it out. Send me the link. I will. I mean, I can find it. But yeah, that sounds good. But yeah, everyone should check out that movie. And okay, this is actual the actual end of the episode, unless you have anything else said. I started watching Conclave. Oh no, how is that? I've been meaning to watch that. I'm enjoying it. I love the drama, the petty drama. Okay, the podcast I edit, Vulgar History. They have a Patreon only episodes they do where they review movies and Conclave was one of them, and I was like, this sounds very fun. I am liking it so fun. And you know, as a cultural Catholic, former normal Catholic, I love the scenery. I love the imagery of the outfits. Look like we said we love an old church too. Yeah, and yeah, the outfits, the sacred yes right, the little robes and shit I love. I love a matches to cheese in it too, is love okay, Okay. The guy who plays Boltemore Ralph something. I hear there's a breakthrough Mexican actor too. I only know his name in the movie is like Cardinal beneath this. I don't know his name. This is for his first role. And okay, so we're only gonna like maybe halfway because it's like almost three hours long or two hours on. I remember, right, and Paul is guessing that he's going to be the bad guy, but I don't think so. I don't think so. No, I know, I think I know who it is. You're probably right. I think I'm right. I don't think he's where do you think it is? I'll cut his parent, actually I will. It's very obvious, So I think it's not him. It's uh, the Cardinal Tremblay. I always plays the villain by the way. You recognize that when you see him. Yeah, I have to watch this. Yeah, I think you're like it. And I kept talking throughout the whole thing about scottle Metal too, and then I was like telling him about how in the older times the mats used to be held with the priest behind facing not facing the crowd. His back was to the crowd, and it was in Latin. But through this movement liberation, you fucking He's like, I know, I'm not surprised at all that you would be saying all this through conflict. And also he hates movies, so I probably should be pausing it, but I couldn't like because they bring that up in the in the movie, because there's two fascist Ish priests cardinals whatever they are, that are more right wing, more conservative, and they want to go back to the Latin, you know, and it has a name lit I don't remember the name, you know, the lad Masks. And then there's like more left wing like standing Tucci and beneath this, who are not about that. There are oscar oscttrol metal codes. Yes they are. Oh my god, oh my god. Yeah, so I think you like it. Honestly, I'm gonna watch it in pieces. But okay, okay, I guess I guess we're done now, okay, okay, we could be done. Then Carmen is visiting me in a couple of days. I'm hoping to feel better. But then I get medic go for first, Yeah, I better not get you sick. But also then we can go around Portland trying food and we can have some vlog, a vlog for a patroon. 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