Mexican Pilot Encounters UFO and the Case of Felicitas Sanchez Aguillon

Hi, this is Christina and Carmen and this is another episode of as Spooky Tones, the podcast for all Things as Spooky, True Crime scary. Ooh yeah, that was supposed to be like a scary OOO, but I think it was more like a ooh like an interest Yeah yeah, wrong type of ooh, can't help how you are? Yeah, that's very true. Today we have a did you finish the notes or did you do it? Okay? Okay, Well, we have a UFO story, which it has been a while, it has those are some of my favorite. And I have a true crime case there was not It's a very old one so it's not a lot of information on it, but it's very it makes you think. It makes you think. So before we get to all that, we do have a listener's story, and if you have a story that you want to send us to read on an episode, you can email a Spooky Tosa gmail dot com. You can dm us on any of our socials. You can submit it on scored like this listener did. You can also call the Spooky hotline the nighbors in the show notes. There's a lot of ways to get it to us, and whatever way you choose, we will find it, we will read it, and we love receiving them. So yeah, okay. So this is from Running on Coffee on our discord, which is just one of the ways you can submit your scary story to us. So it goes. I want to share more of it. She's met not so spooky. But yesterday I was at my mom's house visiting to celebrate my younger brother's birthday. My mom and I were talking about and if she ever found out who were her niece's parents, and then in parentheses one of her parents. Wait, I'm confused. I don't know they're gonna explain more, so let's just okay, keep reading, okay. But the way I saw it, I was like, okay, is she's saying that if one of her mom's parents are also her niece's parents and the nieces her mom's niece. Yes, okay, okay, That's where I was confused. I was like, is it running on Coffee's niece or the mom's niece mom's niece, and so implying this is a trials out of wedlock? Yeah, who's actually a sister not a niece? Yeah, okay, okay, I think that's where that's going. But Okay, it goes on. Okay, So backtracking, my sister did a twenty three and me test and through that she found out we had a cousin from my mom's side that was adopted. She reached out to my sister through Facebook. We found this out last Christmas. So going back to yesterday, I had asked if she ever found out who had a daughter and had given her up for adoption. She currently lives in Gala Laja shout out. I was waiting for you to say that, and she wanted to know who her parents and family were. Needless to say, we still don't know. And supposedly my uncle, the only boy in the family, was told he couldn't have kids. I don't know what this reason is or what this was told to my grandma about my uncle. My grandma passed away years ago and my mom had her picture up for the old friend that she had for her. So we were in the middle of this conversation and her picture fell over. There was no open door or window, no one was nearby, and I just turned and said, ablita maliti madaq, save the is mi prima. Wow. My mom was like, gah, oh, I guess it's just translate that. So after the picture fell, running on coffee turned around to the picture and said, Grandma, I know you're here. We're not talking bad about anybody. We're just wondering who my cousin's parents are, And then running in a coffee's mom was like, yeah, I told her my grandma's picture fell over. She's here listening, and she probably knows who her parents are, the prima or niece. Yeah, I can tell. My mom kind of got sad. I know she misses her mom a lot. I love my Ablita and miss her too. Just thought I would share a bit of a wholesome story, and I believe they know they're still loved and missed. Cute. Oh that is cute. Thank you so much for setting that in. Oh yeah, also, I'm dead inside. No, I'm sick again. So yeah, okay, So now onto the UFO story. On May third, nineteen seventy five, twenty three year old Mexican pilot Carlos Los Santos was en route from Siguajo get it of to Mexico City in a plane called or the type of plane is was a piper Pa twenty four. Exactly now that you said that, I know exactly what plane that is? Okay, yeah, it's a small plane, though I did see I didn't know. Yeah, he was flying this plane when he was confronted with UFOs at the time. Carlos had three hundred and seventy flight hours and he worked for a aerial company. That's what pilot airplane companies are called, right, Like, he worked for a company flying planes. Maybe aviation that sounds better. I typed aerial question mark, and then I was going to look it up, and then I forgot so of course, yeah, aviation company called Pelletier. So Carlos's father was an air technician, so possible Nepo baby. Anyway, the tobacco route he had to take was covered with clouds and bad weather, so said this Villo, and he flew ten thousand feet in altitude and took another route called G three, but there was still too much cloud coverage and bad weather, so he flew even higher to fifteen thousand feet and he flew over the city of dekas Kiteango at twelve thirty. That's how you said it the first time? Is the same one, desk tengo. It's a different city. Oh it's a different city. Yeah, yeah, he flew out of and on his journey he was as he was flying over dek Skidego, that's where we're he was flying there over there, Okay. Over that time was a little lost. Yeah, my brain is working less than normal. Right now, I'm sick again. So yeah. So at twelve thirty PM he was flying over the city and this was about an hour later than normal because of the bad weather. Soon Carlos saw an unidentified object about twenty centimeters from his plane, which is very close, a little too close, a little too close for a comfort, you could say. Yeah, he had a sense of bewilderment and strangers. He's like, what the fuck? And then a second unidentified object appeared about twenty centimeters away from the other side of his plane. Twenty now away. Yeah, so now they're right twenty So now they're both too close. Yeah, so on both sides of his plane they're too close. Okay, And so now he's even more like what the fuck? And if that wasn't enough, a third unidentified object came flying at him and a possible speed, and the one ended up twenty centimeters in front of him. Well not exactly, okay, so the fuck up? No, kidding, sorry, So it flew towards him at an impossible speed. He was scared that it was going to hit him, and then it was like his plane was here, right, and then it was like right, coming fast and then he thought it was it stopped. Sorry, it stopped abruptly, like in front of him, and then it flew under Okay, so that's where I stayed under him. Twenty seminaries under him, Okay, yes, yeah, I actually I don't know the exact measurements, but it was under him. Oh if if the rest were yeah, yeah. So actually he felt an impact and he got so scared that he started shaking and crying, falling to the knees on Walmart, throwing up, screaming, yes, all of that. So then he called for help and he was was done throwing up. Yeah. Yeah, he was still crying, and so he's like, acent Mexico, Mexico, it's just extra on May Day, May day, May Day. But he received no response. So he tried again, and he finally received the response asking what their merging as he was, So he repliedos visualez no identificados, am so moving out of your son said okay, So he said I'm flying with three unidentified objects aroundomy, I'm crying, I'm nervous, I don't know what to do, and unfortunate Carlos didn't get a response from Central La Mexico. Are you serious? The just fucking ignore him? Yeah, actually working, Okay, he didn't know that, of course. Yeah, he thought that maybe they thought he was lying, and that's when they were just ignoring him, like they He thought like maybe they did. This is a joke. Yeah, So then Carlos decided to land, thinking that he could lose the unidentified objects that way, but he was unable to land, and the article explained like technically but I don't know, I don't know what said, something about the stuff wasn't working, like to land, you know, oh like his landing. Yeah, the the yeah, the little feet that the planes feed that come out of the plane that wasn't working. Wheels, yeah, yeah, it wasn't It wasn't working. So so he thinks that the plane because he fell an impact, remember, so he thinks the unidentified object was like man no mano with this plane like right underneath closer than twenty centimeters. Yeah, yeah, like touching it which is already very close, like blocking it. Yeah, oh no. Then he tried to make a turn to lose the UFOs, but he found that he had no control over the plane. So this made him think that these unidentified objects were controlling the plane, and he tried calling for help again, but his radio wasn't working. Then his plane started flying higher and higher, increasing fifteen to twenty feet per second, which is obviously not possible. So he's he's trying to land, but he's going up. Yeah, so he's trying to not work. Then he's trying to turn, you know, to loose to shake these UFOs not working, and he's living up out of his own will. He's going up fifteen to twenty feet per second. Wow, And so he's all worried right at this point because his plane is not built for that altitude. So he was followed, or more like escorted because thefo UFOs were controlling his plane. So he was escorted onward for eighteen minutes too long, yeah, yeah, a little too long, much too long for anyone's liking. And then as he was flying over the Sierra de la Jusco, suddenly the unidentified objects veered a different way towards some volcanoes and they didn't come back, so they were like done with him. Oh, and he was so shaken up, but he had control over his plane and shortly after the UFOs left him, the two radars at the International Benito Juana Airport captured three unidentified objects taken off from his plane and maneuvering in impossible ways, so they detected this the radars. So carlos experience hit the news and he was invited to go on TV to talk about his experience with the omnis. And while he was on his way, two limousine looking cars surrounded Carlos, like one in front of him and one behind him away. No, no, I don't know, right in front of him, like forcing him to come to a stop. Could have been twenty centimeters. I don't know. So they forced him to stop, and then four broad shouldered Scandininian looking men in black suits got out of the two cars. These fuckers are always gotting name in looking right, Yeah, what is up with that? I don't know. And so one of them approached his car and told them in fast robotic Spanish, I can't talk in fast robotic Spanish, though, so you know I'll turn my best anyway, he said, meet him with chacco. Nah, that's that I was trying to talk to. That's it was sounding like like the Cuban dad from the Georgiova show. Okay, he said in again fast robotic Spanish, that it can't replicated muchacho. Yes to be that Familia del or young man. If you value your life and your family's lives, then you'll stop talking about what you saw. Damn are these are these aliens or men in black? Well, Christina, there were four men in black, so yeah, but tell me get to name in parts making me think aliens because they're always described that true. Remember, yeah, I remember that Silencio episode or literally any episode we talked about aliens in icic Mexico. Anyone who sees them, they're always blonde, pale, blue, white, So yeah, who knows. So the men got in their cars in jove Away and Carlos was booked enough to turn around it and go back home. He didn't his radio show or TV show whatever he was gonna do. Yeah, he was going to go on TV, but two days later he did end up sharing his story with the hosts of the show that he was going to go on but not like life. He just told him about it, okay, And the host of the show his name was Bethro Feris, and he was also a UFO enthusiast. So Bethro told Carlos about the men in black, and he's like, I've heard of these men in black, and people who have experiences with the all means they're often visited by these men in black and threatened by them, but I've never heard of anyone actually being harmed by them. So then Bethro convinced Carlos to tell a story on TV. Oh so he did, okay, and nothing happened, but then that's good. Oh but yeah. A months later, when Carlos was on his way to meet with doctor j Allen Heinek, a ufologist. I don't know there's another way to say it, but Spanish it said. Actually I forgot what it said because I wrote UFFO lokista. Anyway, aleen nerd and astronomer. He met with him to talk about the UFO experience, and so he did. They chatted and then the next day they agreed to have breakfast. So then the next day Carlos went back to the hotel to have breakfast with doctor Heinik, and as he was on his way up on the escalator, he was stopped by a man in black and they once again threatened him to stop talking about his UFO experience, and this time they actually pushed him, like they shoved him a little bit. No, not about so they shoved him and they're like, we know you left your house at six am, and we know where you work, and they said the place that he works, but I didn't write it down, and Carlos was scared. He was scared, and he left without meeting with doctor Heinek. He's like, last time we just we had words. This time we're pushing you. Next time we're going to punch you after that, and we're going to punch you. And then the next month, who knows what we'll do. No, but I would be scared. But now it's just funny that just this time they pushed him. It's escalating slowly while he was on the escalator dumb. So Carlos went on to continue his career as a pilot, and he was glad that the radar had caught the UFO's motion because if not, his reputation would have been you had have been done for it, right, But the radar corroborated what he experienced, and the article even had pictures of him as an older man with grown adult kids. So he went on to have a good life and I don't think he was ever visited by the men in black again. He stopped talking about it exactly. Yeah, yeah, wow. Well good for him that they didn't escalate after pushing him right. Well, on that note, we'll take a little out of break here and thank our Patreon members. 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This is actually I'm going to get a bit older. Oh my god, wow, oh disgusting cars. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, you're wreaking. It works. Not going to bother me at all that you sound like this. You're lie to be all right. So the case I'm talking about today, there's not a lot of information on it because it's so old. It's from like the nineteen forty nineteen forty seventy fifties in Mexico. But we'll just jump right into it. On April eighth, nineteen forty one, Francisco Pia is owner of a grocery store in Nagaya, se La Manca in the Roman neighborhood of Suda, Mexico. Got to his shop like he normally did. He was, I don't know, opening the sink or something turning on the sink and it was all clogged up, and so he called the plumber, and the plumber ended up having to open up a hole, you know, to get to the plumbing, the tubes and those technical terms that we don't know, technical terms. Yes, so he had to open up, you know, a hole. And then when he finally like opened up the plumbing, I don't know, tubes, pipes, pipes, pipes, thank you, and to stop calling everything tube tube yes, okay. So when they finally opened up the pipe, they were both shocked and surprise, scared, lots of emotions because inside the pipes there was human flesh. That's what was causing the backup. That's why it was getting clocked up. And the plumber, you know, he was clearing the this clogging. He's like pulling and pulling and you know, just more flesh and then the skull of a baby. Trigger warning, this case involves babies. I'm so sorry I should have said that. Oh my god, yeah, you shut up, My bad, my bad. Yes, trigger warning, And this does involve babies. And so yeah, he you know, they're pulling out flash and then suddenly a skill of a baby and everyone's like, oh my god, what is happening. This uncovered one of the most shocking cases up to that date in Mexico. Behind all of it, one woman. Her name was Felicitas Sanchez Aguillon, who became known as the Ogre of Roma Wow among other names. But that's the most well known name, though there's more. Yeah so. Felicitas Sanchez Aguilone was born eighteen ninety in eighteen ninety in the pueblo of Cerro Azul in Veracruz, Mexico. She had a very rough life from the beginning. Her mom was abusive and she made it clear that that Felicitas was not a wanted child because she literally told her that, oh my god, fucked up. She often told her that she didn't love her and beat her regularly. Since her childhood. Felicitas did things like poison the street, dogs and cats, very disturbed things. Trifecta yeah, right, no, and she grew into someone with a terrible but strong personality. Okay. During the nineteen hundreds, she studied nursing graduated. She met Carlos Donde, who would become her husband. He is a man described as weak with no backbone. Not what she needed in her life, but probably she wanted right, right, She got pregnant and had twins, but she didn't want them. She convinced her husband to give them up for adoption. Okay, and he agreed, the right thing to do, right when you don't want to Yeah, yeah, of course, obviously right because you know they get to live. So he agreed. But then a few days later he changed his mind. Oh, oh god, okay, I thought I was coming already. Okay, wow, No, no, they were given up her adoption, and then he wetted them back. He changed his mind. But then she went to tell them where they were. Who will ad dive to them? Nothing, but presumably they're alive and they've lived full lives like they die, didn't kill them, And so because she wouldn't give up where they were, they divorced. This caused a little roof in the marriage. Wow, understandably, so they didn't make it as a couple, not surprising point for the best. Yeah. So they divorced in nineteen ten, and later that year Felicitas moved to Sudad, Mexico, and once she was all settled in Suda, Mexico and began working as a nurse. Somehow she got involved in draficking children somehow, somehow, Yeah, I'm not I'm not quite sure how that happened. I couldn't find that information as a nurse. Probably right, I'm assuming she met the mothers that came to her gone as a nurse, and so then she would find couples who were looking to adopt, and then she would sell them these infants. This was going so well for her that she was able to afford a better apartment in the Roman neighborhood of Sad, Mexico. So she moved into Apartamento or not sorry and kayes La Manca on the third floor. And she shared this apartment with another woman, but that other woman was only there to sleep, so she really cared what fety Sitas was up to when she was doing she was She was just there asleep, that's it. She was gone all day. So in this apartment, Fittysita started a business to help women give birth and or stop pregnancy. Okay, yeah, she practiced abortions and more and more women, usually rich women with you know, a lot of money, were her clients and more and more began to seek for her help seek her help, neighbors started getting suspicious Felicitas was actually arrested at least twice for practicing illegal adoptions in out of this building, out of her apartment abortions or adoptions adoptions. Oh okay, I guess maybe they couldn't like pin the abortions on her, they were illegal, but this was for the adoptions, okay, because she was still doing that too, and she never stayed in prison. She always met her bail because her business was booming. I mean, she was a baller. Yeah. So this is where it gets very dark and twisted, because they say that when she could not sell the newborns that the moms didn't want, then she would murder the babies no like spice dabbing them and then flushing them down the pipes, which is why they would get all clogged up, or dismembering them before flushing them down, but also poison But I'm like, why would you You don't need to poison a newborn, I mean, you don't need to kill them at all, But no, you don't. You don't need to kill them, like wow, Yeah, it was kind of horrible, kind of like a lot. Yeah. So they said that when she didn't do those other things, she poisoned them or strangle them to death. And she was able to do this because she counted on the discretion of one plumber. Plumber not plumber, my dad, we don't say the bee. I know, I know how to speak English. I know she kind of on the discretion of one plumber who helps her clear the pipes. Was say two being again. Oh my god, no, I like heard it forming in your mouth. Yeah, before anything could be uncovered. So like neighbors would notice like, oh my god, everything's backed up again, but then he would come in and clear it, so no one else would come in and find out what was happening. Yeah, except that day, April eighth, when the guy called a different plumber and then you know, it was all uncovered. So on that day police had already talked to neighbors and everyone's like, well, she's we know she's doing something up there. So they went up to her apartment building, you know, knocked the roommate let them in, and so they started looking around her room. Shocked them because like apparently her dresser, on her dresser, there were black candles everywhere, baby clothes, needles, a skull just sitting on her dresser. What the fuck? Like why what? And then a ton of baby pictures so she would like take pictures of them so she like kills them or like alive, like were these like mementoes? Like what is this? I don't know, it was like never explained further than this. Yeah, so yeah, I don't know. It makes it ponder like why Yeah, but Felicitas wasn't there at the apartment at the time of them searching, so the neighbors told her. She has another clinic where she does things like this too. It's called it's actually not a bar, although liked good name for her, I think Okay, when she had it, it wasn't named this. No, no, that's what they called it. I don't think she called it that, but everyone knew it as when it was her clinic. Yeah, and the bar has a different name now, yes, but the building is still there, oh okay, okay, Yeah, but she wasn't there either, so now there was a manhunt for her, and three days later she was found and arrested, along with the plumber that was helping her get away with all this. Martinez not the name, yeah, and her husband a different husband, yeah, second husband, Alberto Betos. And when she was arrested, she told the investigators, yes, I helped any women who came to me, and when I was done with my abortion services, I flushed the remains down the bathroom. She truly believed that she was doing nothing wrong. She was just helping. And so that's these were not fetuses, these are babies, right. That's why I get confused, because you know, Mexico is very naming. Are they using these interchangeably? That's what I'm wondering if because okay, so we'll get into it. But she maintains she was doing just abortions and then or delivering sorry, go ahead, and or delivering babies. And when the babies were still born and they didn't cry after an hour is when she flushed them down. Okay, but what about the poisoning. Is there actual evidence of that. No, there's no evidence of poisoning. So that's like just like a boomer that got out of hand. Yes, yeah, the poisoning. So she maintains she was helping women. Wow. Uh, and she this was just an abortion clinic, and part of me, well, okay, well let me get finished the case and then okay, talk about it because it's yeah, okay. So she truly believed she was doing good. But newspapers, neighbors, they all demonized her. In her cell, she cried all day. When she wasn't crying, she was screaming, let me out, let me out. I don't deserve to be here. Her lawyer told her she needed to give up her clients for a lighter sentence, and she did. She did it. Among her clients were the daughters of Sudan equals elite, the daughters and wivess elite. I'm not shock because that's common, right, because like the only people can afford this are rich people. But like, wow, wow, wow, So the wives and daughters of politicians, yeah, the most rich businessman. Yeah, you don't know mass Yeah. And so then she was released three months later. The little evidence other than what people said that was actually brought against her when missing this was like a like fetus body part and like a skull in the two being two being sorry, pipe and the pipes and the plumbing that they got out. That's what it was used against her. So like the pictures are like she could have just had those like the pictures and candles and all the weird things that were on her dresser, Like that wasn't evidence, that's just decoration, yeah apparently, Yeah, so that went missing, and so they couldn't use that against her. She ended up being charged with just practicing illegal abortions and then like violating medical responsibility, which at the time weren't serious charges. So she paid her six hundred bessel bail and she was released. The public was furious. The newspapers printed headlines that read, la DEESCORTI sa wow, the dismember I think so. I don't think that's an actual word, but like it's like saying, Jack the Ripper is going to be released. It will be released. They called her statistics serial killer, the strangler, baby killer, the killer of angels. Yeah, they called her all these names, all these horrible things. And although she was free, she knew that her life would never be the same. So on the sixteenth of July nineteen forty one, she was found dead from suicide in her apartment. She left three letters, went to her ex lawyer who was ripping her off, apparently, went to her current lawyer, and went to her second husband. In these letters, there was no remorse or apology for anything which shocked the public. But maybe she felt like she was doing Yeah, that's that's why I think so. The letters mentioned nothing other than to her second lawyer, she talked about Terno, saying what to do with the Terno? And then and her letter to her husband, she just said, goodbye Beto. Carlos who won? I can't do this anymore. Who's don Carlos Gordless was the name of her first husband. What what does that mean? But I don't know what it means. Yeah, and she said, don't Carlos get no interesting? Yeah, and that's it. The case was closed. There was something to do. Wow. But she's to this day known as like one of the most sadistic serial killers. Who's who killed over like fifty babies? But there's no evidence that. Again, she maintains this was an abortion clinic and she was helping women and she didn't kill any baby, like any babies that were alive, Like if the baby was alive and the mom didn't want it, then she would do her adoption thing, which she had connections to. And then but then what was being like written about in the public is that, oh, when she couldn't sell the baby, she would kill it, but she maintained that she was innocent. She just she would do the abortion after doing the abortion, and some of them were like your term abortions, like Hallie, like very pregnant, but not the baby's because you don't want it, like seven months, yeah, which would explain the bigger like yeah, pieces of like body pieces, right, So I mean, like all in all, like at the end of the day, she's remembered as this baby killer. She always maintained though, that this was an abortion clinic, which is what happens when abortion is criminalized. Yes, yeah, that's why. After I read all this, I listened to an episode where she's like talked about and referred to as as horrible person. But I'm reading it and I'm like, I feel like she was just running an abortion clinic. I mean it makes sense for a country that's so pro or anti choice. What do they call those people? Pro life? Pro life? Oh my god, I kind of remember, I'm like, what are there where the there's a term. I was like, I could only think of pro choice, but yeah, countries and people are so pro life, like regular abortion, they view it like this. So people that have those views I don't believe them to report accurately on a case like this, right, and especially in those times and night was nineteen forty one in Mexico. Wow, Like this is so wild. After I read it all, I'm like, I honestly, I kind of believe her, Like I don't know how terrible this makes me sound, because there's no evidence of the poisoning. What about the stabbing? No, the only evidence that was found was the clock, like the body pieces that they pulled out of the store when the guy called came that day. And other than that, there's no other evidence of other body pieces or of like babies older than newborns. So I'm like, I don't know. And there's nothing of the claims that she was killing the babies that couldn't be adopted, Like there's nothing. Yeah, and she did run the adoption illegal adoption, you know, yeah, ring, But it's like, why would she kill babies so she's trying to make money selling them. Did the women that were her clients ever come forward with anything? Yeah, their names were made public, but nothing else, like any statements something else came forward. But these are the like women would be seeking help, you know, yeah, not having I could see this being demonized and sensationalized. So I think she was just a doctor performing or nurse whatever health worker, performing these abortions and helping facilitate adoptions for women who had no other options or choices and could afford this service from her. That's that's honestly what I think after reading all this. I don't know, call me a sympathizer of a baby killer. Oh no, that sounds wrong. But in this case, I I honestly believe this was an abortion clinic. And this is what happens when you criminalize it, because then women don't have to wait until the very end when it looks the fetus looks more like a baby, even though it's not a baby yet. Right, So there's a reason that most of like most abortions are you know early. Yeah, yeah, let us know your thoughts. Yeah, like, let us know your thoughts, because again, there's no evidence of like anything else other than everything up said already loud. Okay, So so yeah, yeah, speculations. Yeah, let's take a quick break and then we'll come back with specula combinations and we're back, all right, Do you have yours already? Let me see I keep a track then or not? Okay, while you're searching for yours not your mind. I finally I got a MC plus which comes with Shutter already, which is where other scare movies are. I got it so I could watch the two of Darryl Dixon and The Ones Who Lived, The Rick and Me shown spin off of The Walking Dead, but on there because it has shudder. There's another movie. Uh, it's like an anthology series, so it has a bunch of stories within it. You know, it's not one long story. Yeah, but it's called I said it wrong last time Satanic Hispanics. I think last time I said Hispanics at a time, And remember you mentioned it last time in our group chat with Lany and Aiden. I thought you meant last time like recording. No, last time I talked about it on time. Well then yeah I did remember that. Okay, So yeah, I finally watched Satanic Hispanics because yeah, it's on Shutter. So it has what is this guy's name? I want to say, he's the vote for Pedro guy. Oh, it has Ef dramedis in it. He gets arrested, uh, and then he's been interrogated and uh as the police are interrogating him. Did you watch Heroes? Yeah, okay, you remember the cop guy who could what could he do? Tell the future read minds? Like very vaguely, Okay, well that guy he's one of the cops again in this Oh anyway, they're interrogating him and he's telling them like these cases that they've never solved, but it's because they're like done by supernatural beings. And so that's how the movies play out. He starts telling the story and then you get into the different like movie and it's it has like all the things we hear about on its pretty tales and I already forgot not why there's a why wow one vampires? That one was funny. Okay, it is like a horror comedy too, it's not all serious. I like horror comedies are one of my favorite things to watch. Yeah, yeah, they're super fun. And then so yeah, it just goes through like I think it's like four or five different ones. But yeah, it's it's a it's a lot of fun, like I'm sure because just because of the stories we tell here and the stories that the movie covers, like our listeners would like it just based on that because I know a lot of people, I don't know, like to hate on things, like if you look at the ratings, they're not like great. But really, I don't know, a lot of the movies I like are always like lowly rated anyway. Yeah, but I mean it has different directors because you know, it has different movies within it or different stories. But gro she did, she said, a bunch of other movies BNGO. Hell's one I've talked about before, but she's one of the directors. But yeah, it's it's just it's so good. Definitely recommend it, just yeah, based on the stories they tell and there some of them are so funny, Like again, the vampire one was one of my favorites, but they're also good. They're also good cool. That's my spooky recommendation. Okay, I'm just sure one because it's starving and you took so long. Sorry. So I read a book called Love of My Afterlife and it's not really like scary, but it's like afterlife, you know, which we talk about sometimes. So it was super cute. Let me just read the synopsis. Okay, here's the description. A recently deceased woman meets the one in the afterlife waiting room, scoring a second chance at life and love if she can find him on Earth before ten days are up. If she wasn't dead already, Delphie would be dying of embarrassment. Not only does she just die by choking on a microwavable burger, but now she's standing in her shine like a star and nightie in front of the hottest man she's ever seen, and he's smiling at her as he starts to chat. Everything else becomes background noise. That is until someone comes running out of a door yelling something about a huge mistake and sends a dreamy stranger back down to Earth. And here Delphie was thinking her luck might be different in the afterlife. When Delphie is offered a deal in which she can return to Earth and reconnect with the mysterious man, she dumps up the opportunity to find her possible soulmate and a fresh start. But in a city of millions, Delphie is going to have to listen to her heart, learn to ask for help, and perhaps even to the magic in the life she's leaving behind. And it was as cute, Yeah, it was cute, but also like profound at times, also funny at times. And also hot at times, because there is I don't know, can we say sex already said we're fine. We were literally talking about the dismemberment. But you know, I don't know. I don't know how they are. But anyway, there is also that in the book. And it's also like one of those like sound family type themes. Okay, I don't know. I love me too, so I don't know. I really enjoyed it five out of five. I mean, you'll find it. What's it called. It's called The Love of My Afterlife by Kirsey Greenwood. Okay, okay, okay, let's get out of here so I can eat. Yes, Okay. A quick reminder that the current book club book is now The Witches of a Basle by Louis had A mi yok's a little pricey. I didn't know. We didn't look up the price beforehand or anything, but yeah, it was kind of pricey. But mine is going to get the three libraries. Yeah if you can. If and if it's anything like my library, they won't have it. Yeah, but I got an email that mine was shipped. Good good, Yeah, use our bookshop link if you're gonna buy it. If you're not, you know, getting through the library. So yeah, that's the curretin read. We'll see how long it takes us stopping at that book club episode is out. If you want to join the book club, get those discussion questions apply to them. Maybe all that is in the show notes. And yeah, okay, that was my last reminder. I guess I don't know. Don't become a pilot so you don't run into UFOs that are twenty seven los omnies. Yeah and yeah, stay a spookie will catch everyone next time. Bye. 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