Selene Delgado Lopez, an Internet Mystery and An Update on Sharon Kinne aka La Pistolera

Hi. This is Christina and Carmen and this is another episode of a Spookitals, the podcaster for all Things SWOOKI hunted places true crime involving Latin America, and on today's episode, we have what should have been a normal missing persons announcement on a Mexican TV channel that somehow became one of the biggest Internet mysteries to this date and is also somehow connected to another similar internet mystery. What. Yes, I'm very excited for this episode a mystery to mysteries and one mystery solved because I have an update on a previous case for for my segment my half All right, yeah, and normally before all that we would have a listeners story. I did not get one ready. I've been sleeping all day. Yeah. Yeah, I'm very sick. If you have stories that you want us to read, email dot com. You can submit it on Discord. You can also record no and email that. You can call these Pooky hotline. There's a lot of ways to get us your stories. Just send them. We love receiving them. Today we don't have one though, but we love reading them when we do have them. Can I prepare them? Yeah? So should I get into it. Yeah. Yeah. In two thousand and one. In two thousand and one, Mexicans who happened to be awake past midnight and we're watching Channel five were traumatized. It was time for their Servicio a communidad segment or community service segment, where they listed the names of missing people. It was on like normal until they named Celene de la Gado or Selene Delgado, who was eighteen at the time of her disappearance. They showed her a picture, but suddenly it changed to a different picture with no explanation, and let's play the video. When did you play? Okay? One? Two, three? Telena Lopez say. Meetings? Oh what the hell? I was like jump scared? What is going on? Yeah, and they don't comment on this at all. No, this is the end of the audio. Yeah, what the hell? That's what they saw on This happened live on TV and midnight. Yeah what the channel live? Okay? That was weird. I hope that you go on you to watch it, and if not, you probably will post it on Instagram, right, I will. And then when we have a video version of this up, not today because I'm sick and it looks like, oh god, we don't have a video. We're not going to post a video, but I will. I will redo this, just me reading the script just so people could see if they want to see, because it's super chill clips it is. When Sena's name was said, the only details given were her name, how old she was, and where she was last seen, the municipality of Alvaro Obregon in Mexico City. Not only did the picture randomly change, but there was also a very harsh tone when the change happened, and none of this was ever addressed. So first, let's talk about canal Cinco. It is a Mexican free to air network owned by Telivisa ViOn. Think like your local PREVS channel here. You know where all of us watched Dragon Tels, Arthur and all that. Also you can tell who didn't. Yeah, you can be like I know, as a kid, you didn't watch these shows because of the adult you are today. Yeah, and you know they didn't get their reading Rainbow on. Yeah. And Channel five was mostly aimed at kids and younger audiences. During the day, they aired cartoons, foreign series. You know, it's where we watched Dragon ball Z in Spanish. Oh that makes sense. I was going to say cartoons yeah, yeah, and they showed like Disney shows like Duct Taels, Chippin'dale, the Mexican version of Disney Club. At least on toll As started running these shows instead. Then it started running Warner Media shows, so like Looney Tunes, Sunny Tuons, the Kids next Door whatever that was called ed and Eddie hated that. I hated them too, and PBS Kids. Yeah, they were the worst. I there's nothing I hate more than an ugly cartoon. Oh my god, edit Eddie Redd and Simpy the chicken. Peve was in butt head. Oh my god, what your name was? Yeah? Right, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. The point is that it did kids shows during the day, and then in late hours it ran more reality shows and general TV shows like like is to See Us? This bizarre Celena Delegadlo situation. Aside, Channel five News had done some very bizarre things. For a while. They were running a Twitter page and posting normal things, but then around three to five am their post just grew more and more creepy. They would upload the creepiest Internet videos for no reason. Infobay, who named that Mexican news agency. I don't know who named it. Every time I see an Infoba article. I'm like, is this real? But it's legit? Hmm, yeah, it sounds fake anyway. So this Mexican news agency tries to get ahold of the Channel five social media person, and they claim this person had no idea what they were talking about or who was making these posts. Okay, let's play a couple now, this would have been a good YouTube video. I'm gonna, okay, the normal Patreon's gonna have the video? And should I just upload it even though I look fugly? Oh sorry, Oh you licked on it. It's because I clicked on it adamatically started playing. Oh my god. It's up to you, I mean, recording either way, so it doesn't matter to me, you know what, I'll do it. Okay. I wish it would have powdered in my face, but it's fine. It doesn't matter. Do you want to go do it? No? No, no, it doesn't matter of trash anyway. Yeah, yeah, okay, one, two three play? Oh my god. Oh I hate this. This is the worst thing I've ever seen, you know what. It reminds me of Oh my god, but worse. This is so much worse. Actually, I can't I don't think I keep watching it. That's positives disturbing. What it reminds me of the episode of the Office where Aaron is trying to make the Halloween party scarier, Like gay brings in is disturbing. Like videos whatever they are, and everyone's like ooh, and then one of them is like Oscar's grandma. He's like, why did you record my grandma? Or whatever. That's what it's reminding me of. That's how I felt watching this. It's very it's like disturbing, and they never like they were just delete these after really yeah, it's in the notes. Wow, wow, Okay, I did not like that one bit. No, okay, but there's another video, so should we click on that? All right? Ready? One, two, three, play lunch Manchi for a munch, Crunch crunch. Oh my god, I can't watch it. No, it's disturbed. Yeah. So that's the last they were just postings like that. That's very disturbing. Yeah, so by the time everyone was awake, like around six am, all these weird videos would be deleted and again there was never any explanation. Very weird. Yeah, but back to their strangest event, as if these dark enough. Yeah, and this strange event has now become an urban legend. It was November two thousand and one when the infamous Selene Dedo Lopez news aired. Viewers who up at night watching it live all claimed to feel uncomfortable and scared when looking at her picture. Some people claimed that when her picture changed, the TV froze for a few minutes, then started glitching and cut to static. People started saying that Selena's ghost was causing this. Others said that her picture was cursed. Then people started saying the picture wasn't real, that was why it was making people feel uneasy because of the uncanny Valley effect. Still, there was a white search for her, but she wasn't found. This led to a group of Internet salutes to look into this. This group claimed Selena didn't exist and this was likely just an experiment run by Channel five for no reason. But she makes no reason. Yeah. They searched the missing person's database and there was no Selena a little bitz there. They also searched any database they could, and not only was she not missing, she just didn't seem to exist. There was no other picture of the supposed Selene except the one aired by Channel five, and this includes the act. The first picture they showed not the creepy one that I switched to, or not creepy, but not the one switched to, or I didn't original one. Okay, that they're talking about that that doesn't exist anywhere the when it switched to people did get down to the bottom of it, and it's in the notes later, okay, And it just gets weirder. This whole thing gets fucking weirder. It's a whole weird. It's all just weird. People moved on. Only those who were up remember seeing this girl who didn't exist. Then in twenty twenty, when did this happen again? The first two one? Oh my gosh, like ninety years later. Yeah. So. Then in twenty twenty, Twitter user the Amantha Negro posted a thread about the case with one detail that was never said before. The Amata Negro connected another cylon in the Legado to this one who went missing in twenty ten. The picture he uploaded it looked like it could have been the same girl. And the picture was taken with the same terrible quality, like it had been copied again and again and again before was uploaded. Like those means people reuse all the time. Yeah, yeah, or like if you photo because you know, this original picture was old the two thousand and one to one, so if you photocopied it, and you photocopied it and you photocopied it, it would get that very dark like, yeah, I know, low quality look to it. Yeah. This led to a ton of YouTubers to revive the original video and everyone was talking about the keys. Also TikTok M. Of course tiktoking YouTube went big on it. Then things got even weirder. This time Facebook was involved, and that's never good, it's not. People found a Facebook page belonging to a middle aged woman named Selene and Lopez Porcelaine. People then realized that somehow they were already friends with her, even though they hadn't added her themselves. Then they noticed there was no way to unfriend her either. The profile was shared one hundred and twenty six thousand times. People were saying it was haunted or cursed, But it turns out this was a real person who had nothing to do with Channel five, with the Channel five incident, I thought so por Lady Porcelene. She ended up having to private her Facebook because of the constant harassment, and it's still private to this day. Yeah, and actually I'm not sure if I included it in my notes, But the reason it looked like she was being added and she was already friends with anyone is because she had a type of setting where when you look at someone's profile page, it says message, but it doesn't say ad friend. You can disable the ad friend button, so then it looks like you're already friends with her. And the reason that they couldn't unfrint her is because they were not we friends the first place. Oh my god. Yeah, and she had the ad friend disabled, so it looked like you were a ready friends with Ridiculous. That's what people got confused about. Yeah, and it's spread panic in Mexico, like, oh my god, I'm friends with her. Two Oh my god, you have friends other too, Yeah, as they seem tend to go. There's different theories around that try to explain what happened. One of them is that she was an actual missing person and the lack of any information on her is because of the lack of resources and that there's just too many missing people in Mexico. The glitches that happened were probably due to to poor quality of TV cable at the time. Another theory she was never a real person. She was created by Channel five to scare their viewers and spread awareness of missing people, or just to get attention and more views, right, or ratings or whatever. Another theory is that she was never a real person, but she was created by a person pranking Channel five. I could believe that, yeah, this person sent in her picture and fake information into Channel five to see if they would still include it during the community service segment. Many favor this theory because the channel kept broadcasting her image for years. People began to notice that the image of Selene that God was actually composite of Derek Todd, also known as the Baton Rouge Slayer, and that it became associated with Selena because they're similar facial proportions. And I wouldn't say, because we're going to have the pictures up here, but I wouldn't say that it was similar to the first one. But when they put up the second one, okay, that is his composite, But I don't think it was that similar to her original picture. The original quality, No, But the second one that popped up after it does look like is the same picture. I thought, just a little bit of changes, Like it looks like the composite of that guy. Yeah, just stretched out the second darkening one. Yeah, yes, that's kind on they switched to it. Yeah, yeah, we're saying the same thing we are. Their explanation was that this composite was used to digitally render Selenis picture. The photoca Dreams group claimed to have proven this by using a kind of modeling program that rendered the same image by combining other images of people and the same composite. They said, Selena's face is too similar to all these images at the same time, that it's so generic, and that is why it made people uncomfortable, because it was made to be generic on purpose. So when people say this, are they talking about the second image or the first image, Because the first image, to me, it looks like a normal girl, no stile. But people are saying the first image look too generic and that image is made up of really all other images of people it together like that to me and anything like that, no, not to me, And then that the second image that it changed to, Yeah, is what the first like model of what led to the actual picture came from. Like it was like the base they started from, and then they got to the face that the normal picture they got to her picture from that weird looking composite. That's weird, but I don't know. I just I don't feel it's like a normal girl, but like a bad quality photo to me, right, and I agree, interesting weird. They believe the theory that Channel five made this image to include in their segment. They doubled down on this theory when Channel five was posting weird things on Twitter, including references to Selene, that they created this hoax as a publicity stunt, and that's the legend. It's just an eerie video that was never explained. But surprisingly that's not I found a website that looks sketchy. It's a block spot website in Spanish, and this page claims the conspiracy theories and legs are not true at all and she was a real person. This page claimed to have Selene Delgado's mom's contact information. Her family was very low income, her mom was According to this page, her mom was Esperanza Lopez and her sister was Lauda than Gado. The phone number that was attached to her case is now deactivated, but it belonged to a corner store near where Selene was said to have gone missing from. In the municipality of Alvado, Obregon. Her missing person's file didn't appear in just Channel five, but also other media and with much higher quality image. The missing person report was never removed, so it seems to remain in open case and her family, if they're still alive or still looking for her. Unlike all of the YouTube videos, say that she never existed in any databases. This page claims there were several places with the missing fil report. This block page claims there's another website from Tutah the six which has limited access and this page contains over twenty entries with Selene's information, but of course they never share the page name or anything, but they did share some information from this alleged page. Selene disappeared in the morning. She had a stalker who lived in the streets. Her father died when she was very young. Her mom washed other people's laundry for a living. On the day Selene de Lagada went missing, another woman named Alondra went missing. Alondra was a sex worker and mostly worked a couple of streets away from the de Lagado residents. She was apparently considered a suspect at some point. This blog also claimed Selena left of her own will and that she was never abducted. This is the only page with this information, and there's absolutely no way to verify any of this. Most people continue to believe this is one strange mystery. Yeah. I tried looking for this supposed page that this page mentioned, and I tried the forn A Londra that went missing or more information. Nothing popped up. Interesting, not that I'm a professional searcher, you know, I tried, and I couldn't find anything. But also I did notice that a lot of people that make a ton of like you know, YouTube videos with like millions of views on this case, they don't mention this random website that popped up. Maybe because it's in Spanish and they don't speak Spanish. Yeah, maybe, so that was weird. But I'll trying to remember to put it in the show notes. You'll try to what remember to put it in the show notes in case anyone wants to look at this sketchy blog spot that claims all these things, it might still your identity. No, I'm just kidding. No, No, you don't have to entern information. If this wasn't enough, there was another very similar situation in Chicago, and this similar situation was eerily similar, also involving a Channel five. Naturally, people started connecting the two on January fourteenth, nineteen eighty nine, so this one happened first. Wm Q Channel five out of Chicago was doing their public service announcements, which included things like anti drug stuff and meditation segments. For some reason, they also this also included the national anthem. Right after the national anthem finished, there was silence and then a picture of Joanna Lopez. The picture also said missing and call three twelve seven four four five five ninety four And for some reason, the picture was of extremely terrible quality and wow, yes, you can't even like if you saw this picture and then you saw this person in real life, you would never know. Was that because there's like no deesael, Like you can't recognize someone from this picture? No, not at all. The picture was placed there with no sound at all and remained up for twenty seconds. Pretty normal. Then two years later, on January fourteenth, nineteen ninety one, WMQ showed her photo again. It was the same video from nineteen eight, but this time after twenty seconds she went away and came back and stayed up for six hours all night with no other sound, all night, with no other sound, just for static image. Okay, that's why you said it pretty normal earlier, because I was like, I guess that's normal. Now reading this, I'm like, okay, that's normal. Yeah, oh my god the hell. It's also so fucking weird that both their last names and with Lopez and these are both Channel five. Yeah. Yeah, that's so weird, people claimed. When they called the number, no one ever answered, and just like Selena Delegado, there was no record of Joanna anywhere, no police reports, and no missing persons reports. This remains unsolved today and of course led people to believe she was never real to begin with. Since this weird broadcast, there's been a few different theories. The first one that she was real and she was a runaway and that her parents didn't report her missing to the police and instead sent her picture w and make you I feel like that's possible. Yeah yeah, just like out of the word know where the picture is so horrible, But it's very possible. I mean, this was nineteen eighty nine. I guess like they could have like Xerox did a bunch of time. Yeahs, you know the same thing with the other picture, but this one is just way worse. Yeah, very low quality. The next theory, which is the most popular, is that she never existed and a hacker put up a random picture while the national anthem was plain, or that the channel themselves made her up to conduct some sort of tests. There's another theme, no reasoned. Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me. I feel like, yeah, maybe they made it up just to get attention. Yeah, out of the two. If if she didn't exist, then someone made up the picture, I do believe it would be a random person hagging the hijacking the signal, because people have done that, hijacked signals and then put up some weirdass images. Yeah, there's a whole horror story episode on it which poinked on. I produce it. Yeah, it was a lot of fun, one of the best episodes two dates because I worked on it. But yeah, I feel like they say that about every episode. Do you work on? So the fuck up? And if anyone has anyone else noticed, does anyone else agree anyway? But I think it was like the nineteen eighties or nineties, someone hijacked the signal and put up this weird ass like video of some guy with a mask. His name was Max and it was just doing weird ass things on TV. And so I do believe that if this happened, it would have been not the TV channel themselves, but some real in person. Okay, I could see that, maybe the Mexico one also, yeah, yeah, there's another theory that she's actually a Jane Doe from a nineteen ninety four case because they look alike and this Jane Doe died in the area where Joanna went missing. Okay, I was like, I needed to scroll up to compare the picture, look at the original, Yeah, and I just see it's such there's such little Do you have the same original picture? Yeah? Yeah, that could be in that could be them. It could be any of those images there. So there's another theory that she was actually Rachel Lopez, who attended Chicago Community High School at the time she went missing. This theory is popular because she also wears glasses, looks similar and would have attended high school at the same time as Joanna and they were the same age. There's a whole subredda because of course there is dedicated to Joanna Lopez, and one rhetitor claims to have found Joanna in that they spoke to her on the phone. They claimed she did run away and was gone on the photo aired, but the user lost contact with her two years after they made the post. They also pointed out that there were two missing Joanna Lopez in nineteen eighty nine, and they were not sure which one they spoke to. The subretdit is still active and people have uploaded high resolution versions of the image from nineteen eighty nine and nineteen ninety one with hope of finding Joanna Lopez. I was scrolling that subreddit earlier, and there's another so the redditor you mentioned right now, that's one of the highest avoted posts on there. But there's another one that someone said they spoke to her father at uh some phone number, but then that he just hung up. And I'm like, yeah, nobody wants someone random calling them, like yeah, Like that makes sense. So they seem to believe that she really did exist. I mean it's possible. Yeah, I feel like that's one I believe a little bit more because it's just a very low quality image and the other one, which is a weird looking image like I don't know what the word switched, yeah, switched Yeah, And that was just weird yeah, and anyway, I mean, this just leaves us wondering word Selene, Selene Lopez and Jonna Lopez ever real question? Many still asked, We don't know, including us right now. Yeah. I would love to hear what other people think though, so weird. Yeah, all right, we'll take a little outbreak there and come back with my update. That was once a mystery, that's the race theme. Mystery, mystery solved. All right, and we're back. We have an update on a case that I covered way back in episode ninety four. Who remembers La Pistolera aka Sharon Kinney? Oh my god, me you remember La Pistolera? Akah, I can never forget her. I know me neither. So if you don't remember, here's a very very short refresher because again, this took like almost an hour the first time, So here's a very short refresher on Sharon Kinney. Sharon Kenney murdered her husband, then tried to frame her Doddlar for it, and then for some reason, police believes her. One month later, with the money from her husband's her deceased husband's life insurance, she bought a really nice car at uh car Place wherever people buying cars, and the car salesman she ended up getting with that was her new boyfriend, who was Walter Jones, who had been married for five years to Patricia Jones for five years and you know they were like on and off again. He wasn't really committing to the relationship as much as Sharon wanted. And so then she kidnapped Patricia Jones. She followed the Patricia Jones like one day, Patricia just didn't make it home. Walter was worried. He found the missing prisons report and then it turns out that Sharon and her other boyfriend John together went to try and talk to Patricia. Then they ended up killing her. She ended up killing her. She didn't her four times and she was arrested and it went to trial. I think this she was found not guilty due to lack of evidence, and so just like long story, there were two trials for her. One she was found not guilty. In between her waiting for her second trial to start, she had a new boyfriend and fled to Mexico with him. In less than a month of being in Mexico, she shot a Mexican man named Enrique Martinez Rouela, and she claimed that he was trying to assault her and that's why she shot him in self defense. But police, Mexican police quickly figured out that she actually killed him because she was trying to rob him, and so she was arrested. And also this is all going on when she was supposed to have a trial back in the US, and so the US put out a warrant for her once she didn't show up to her trial because she was in Mexican police or in a Mexican jail at the time of her trial in the US, so she didn't show up, so they put out an arrest warrant for her, and up till a week ago, that was the longest standing warrant in the history of the US because she still had not shown up to trial. But total a week ago, yes, absolutely ago, we'll get there. So this is again, this is all the refresher on who she was wearing. And then in Mexican jail she was found guilty and then I think the first sentence was ten years, and then she appealed and then the judge was like, that's not enough time, and he gave her thirteen years. Uh huh, yes, okay, And so more time is what they said, and then she escaped through the book at her I remember, yeah, yeah, yes, Then she escaped Mexican prison and that's it. That's what we know of her whereabouts. We still didn't know where she was at the time of recording. When did this episode come out? Wasn't like two years ago. It was two years ago. So I let me see the spooky tales and then let me just search. Oh and then yeah, they nicknamed her. They nicknamed her La Pistolera during the trial. Okay, so okay. November eleventh, twenty twenty two is when this came out. And at the time, I was like, I don't think she's alive anymore. If she, you know, was because and then you like calculated how old she would be ned or remember exactly, yeah old, and so she Yeah, nobody knows what happened to her. They lost track of her when she escaped, you know that Mexican prison. Yeah, the trop was called after that. But it turns out law enforcement got a tip December twenty twenty three, and this tip came from Canada, Alberta, Canada, Canada, Alberta, Canada, cob of Degrassi. So it turns out a month after she escaped Mexican prison. She was back in California. She met a man named James Glabys, and she became Dedra Glabys, not an identity change. They got married, they moved to Alberta, Canada, and that's where she remained all those years, and she actually passed away. Where is it? January twenty twenty two was when she died. So I was right because the episode came out November twenty twenty two, she was dead. But the whole time she was hiding out in Canada and her neighbors described her. Her neighbors are shocked. They're like, no way that this woman who was our neighbor killed this many people. Was literally called La Pistolera the gunslinger, because she was kind, she was always helping out her neighbors. Oh, they're like, was not Dedra? I think? So? Okay? What was her other idea? Keep getting cragus? Was the last name Debra or de Dra? I do remember what you said? It's one of those yeah, hold on, Dedra, Yeah, okay, not de Dra. Dedra Glabys, which sounds like such a fake name to me, but I mean it was. I guess it was a real name because she existed in Canada. Yeah, and her neighbors loved her. She knit things for her neighbors, she took care of them. Wow. So she really calmed down in her elder age. I guess she stopped killing people. Yeah. Yeah, so they worked with like now after learning her identity, they worked with California law enforcement agencies to figure out that in nineteen February nineteen seventy, Sharon Kenney married James Glabis in LA and that they later moved to Canada and again up until like literally a week ago was when this news came out that was the longest outstanding warrant in Kansas City. Wow? And how long was it out for? Sixty five years? Oh? Wow? Yeah, so it was an anonymous tip that was called in December twenty twenty three. And I guess they waited until they announced all this because it was literally a week ago, No, not even a Friday Friday at the same recording. The Friday that just passed is when this news broke when they really wow, Yeah, she died January twenty twenty two. Tetro globis like what and she was there was confirmed to be the same person through kentless hours of investigation, forensics, gunealogy, and fingerprint analysis. Like, there's no denying Sharon Kinney was Deidra Glabys Wow. Insane. Yeah. Her neighbors are like, we can't believe that she killed the people and abandoned her children in the US. Oh my god, I forgot about me too, me too, Oh my god. And they're just laughing because it's so ridiculous. Oh sorry, sixty four years later. That's how long it was. Sixty four years And I guess it took him a while to even follow up on the tip because they had received so many false tips over the years. But yeah, that's where she was the whole time, in good old Canada, having maple syrup and poutine. I was gonna say, what's that thing they eat? Probably watching the grassy Wow, that is wild off the hook. Yeah, but you know, now all the all her victims can rest easy knowing she's dead. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah, And I'm just that's insane to me. But yeah, that was the case or the update on Sharon Kenney wild. Yeah, And I guess we'll take a little break here before spooky recommendations. All right, and we're back. Do you have a spooky recommendation. Yeah, I had a bunch last episode and you cut me off because you were tired of me. Oh, I was fine, sleep or something. I don't remember. You're hungry, I was hungry. Yeah, I haven't finished or yeah, any like horror books or whatever. Don't really watch anything. I've just been rewatching the Office and finishing the latest season of Married at a Sight on Hulu. But I was talking about Grady Hendricks last time, right, and anyway I listened to I don't know if it's the most recent episode of Books in the Freezer, Yes, and he's the guests in it, and it was such a good episode hoore with Grady Hendrix. Yeah, it is the most recent one. I don't know if it'll be the most recent one. We're on this episodes out But anyway, when I'm looking at it at the time for courting, it's the most reason. It was such an interesting conversation about like again, which horror, his book, his research of his book that I am on hold, I am number fifty something eighty something, let me see. I'm excited to read it. But there's a long Oh it's not that long compared to the other ones. I'm number seven in line. No, that's not bad. Time about fourteen weeks? Yeah, no time. Yeah, it'll fly by. I was the Way which book? Great? Yeah? Yeah, Witchcraft for Weyward Girls. Okay, And did you listen to the episode of Books in the Not Yet again? I remember you, remember my kindness? Yeah, because I've been doing nothing but sleeping for the past five days because I'm pretty sure I have flew a oh the flu. Yeah, I didn't know there was letters for the flu. Yeah, there's A and B. A is the one that usually goes around the most. That it's a running rampant in the US right now, it's insane, and you've got time. I got a flu vaccine. Yeah, so imagine if I didn't, I'm more Wow, I'd be dying more. You know what else I'm on literally for longer. I mean Love and Denline The House of My Mother by Sherry Frankie the Daughter, Yeah, that is on my tv R and both are on Spotify, but I like to use Spotify only for books that are not on Libby. And I need to listen to the second one of Parable of the Sore Oh, Parable of the Talents. Yes, yeah, I forgot the name, although they're very similar. Yeah, yeah, so I need to listen to that. And last time I was listening to audiobooks because all the Christmas ones were on hold and I had to top up on my hours. I paid ten fucking dollars for like ten extra hours because of that, and I'm like, no, I amused. Yeah, so yeah, anyway, that was my spooky recommendation. Thatsde okay, thats the freezer. I need to listen. My spooky recommendation is American Rapture by c J. Lead let me. Actually, that's not on my libby, so I'm probably gonna listen to that on Spotify. It was a very good audiobook too, very well done. Okay, because again I don't read. I just listened to books most of the time. Also, don't forget. You can find both of us on story graph, just as Spogey Christina and a Spooky Carman. Yeah do you want? Because I want to see what other people are reading. I love looking at what other people are reading me too. All right, So American Rapture a virus is spreading across America, transformingly infected and making them feral with lust. Sophie, a good Catholic girl must traverse the healthscape of the Midwest to find her family, while the war around her burns. Along the way, she discovers there are far worse faiths than dying a virgin. The end times are coming. And I think if you're in episode one hundred and ninety nine of Us Big Tells by now you know two things. We love zombies and we love religious horror. This book is both of those. It's insane. I will say I gave it five out of five, and it does take a little bit to get into the horror of everything that's happening. But it has to set up the religious trauma. It has to set up right Sophie, the main character, has been raised. It has to set all that up and why her brother and her are in different places, why the world is the way it is before everything goes to hell. And so she was raised in this very super strict Catholic household. She's like so sheltered it's insane, like extremely sheltered. She was only allowed to read books of her parents' list. They didn't watch an a TV. So when everything happens, she doesn't know what's happening. Because although this has been in the news for a while now I didn't know, she didn't know. She didn't know, And so this breaks out and her brother is miles away at a home they sent him to, like a home for the sacre, and I feel like it was having something to do with like conversion therapy, where they were trying to I don't know what it is, I because again sometimes I space out and I don't pay attention fully, So I maybe I missed the reason he was sent away. Something happened, something shameful that makes him a quote unquote bad person to the Catholics and anything, honestly, And so Sophie in her mind is trying to figure out what is he really bad? Is this any of what I learned? Is this really bad? So she has to unlearn so many things in the middle of the apocalypse that's so hard to do even in a regular and the regular day to day. Yeah, and so you get she you know, she's traveling, she's trying to find her brother. So she meets people, and this book just like rips your heart out when when you least expect it. I don't want to spoil anything, but like people that she meets throughout obviously it's it's an apocalypse things they're gonna happen. So in the in a very set, like very walking to the sense like no one is safe type thing, you know. I would love to see this into a show. Also reminded me of this fucking movie that traumatized the fuck out of me. I will never watch it. I actually don't recommend anyone watches it. The Sadness. It's a The Sadness is a twenty twenty one Taiwanese zombie horror film, but oh my fucking god, it's the worst thing I've ever fucking seen. And it's like so gory. So so this viral this is like a viral thing that transforms people into sadistic but there's the maniacs. So in the end, American Rapture is very similar in the sense that they're like lusting. It's not just a regular zombie virus. They turn it to zombies, but they're like fucking horny as fuck. I don't know. So part of the zombie is like that the zombies like start trying to assault whoever their victim is like they're just trying to spread the zombie virus, and that's how it spread. And so The Sadness very similar in that manner that it's fucking insane and it has similar things similar I don't know, it's horrifying. But this is like a better version of that to me because and I say better in the sense that it was less traumatizing to me, because The Sadness was a movie and you could see it all and it was so sadistic and dark, and if that's your thing, watch it. But I'm argument it. I'm so traumatized. But this was like an easier version of that because you're reading about it and you're not seeing it because that was insane, and it's also you know, but yeah, so au unique twist on the zombie subgenre. But also you're seeing her trying to move past this religious trauma on the way she was raised to believe things were so five out of five halving hours, Oh good, And that is my spooky recommendation. American Rapture by C. J. Leed. You actually read another bone of her books, Yes May Fly, which I recommended so many episodes ago. I do remember when. Yeah, it's been a while last year though, and it's about a serial killer Hattie who happens to be a serial killer, right, And I never read my fly but now I spent on my TVR forever. But American Rapture. The minute I heard about it, I'm like, I need to read this. And I placed a whole months ago when it came through and my library through it. Wow. Lam But yeah, I think this brings us to the end of the episode. Yes, thank you. A reminder that twenty percent of our patron funds are going to charity. The one that I chose this month is Alao. They have a water drop service that they do where they drop off water, food, weather appropriate clothing, and hygiene stuff in the middle of the desert where people are going to pass because they're trying to seek asylum into the US and otherwise they could die out there without these supplies. So people volunteers, they gather these supplies, they walk them out there for people who need them. And again, we know that there's a history of border patrol destroying things like this that they find. So the more that we can help get these things out there, the less people, the less people have to die. Yeah, very important. I'll put the website so anyone, if anyone wants to check it out and donate themselves if you want to help us donate more. Right now, we're doing twenty percent of our funds of Estorias are Known and Spooky Taos, which ends up being fifty something dollars. So if you want to help us, first help us, but also help us help other people, then you can join the patroon where we also do bonus episodes. The last one was Vampire Media, where we talked forever about our favorite vampire media, or at least favorite so much fun. It was a lot of fun, and we even for We're gonna have to do a second part because we forgotten again. Shout out Fred. He was like, what about Little Vampire? And I was like, oh my god. And then he mentioned another one, and then someone else in the comments mentioned a couple too. Chata said one, and then Modesto he says another movie. You know. I was like, oh, think, how do we forget about all these movies? Yeah? Yeah, so we're gonna have to do another one. But we have plans to do our favorite religious horror supernatural horror, so those are gonna be fun too. But we also read and react to creepy Reddit stories. Yeah, sometimes they have a theme, sometimes they don't. Whenever we're together, we put up some vlogs, so there's a lot of stuff on there as well as at free versions of our episodes. And I would say early, but they're rarely ever early, you know, me doing things last minute? Yeah, yeah, And okay, I think that's everything. I have to plug. All right, Were you gonna add anything or no? No? All right, I don't know. If you're up at midnight and you happen to see something weird on TV that will later become an urban legend, let us know. 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