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Hello, Hello, this is Christina and Carmen. I thought you were gonna say an Arthur. Oh my god, I did that last time. How I forgot? Actually, this is Arthur and d W. She's so sassy. My favorite one is when she's like tells Francis to go home. It was so mean. She's like, what are you doing? I don't know how she asked like a normal question, and she's like, DoD are you always here? Yeah? She's definely my favorite and Arthur, yeah she is anyway. Yes, this is another episode of a Spooky Tale's a podcast for all things as spooky, usually a paranormal topic and a true crime topic, but this month October only paranormal and we are in costume. Like we said, d W and Arthur. M hm. Yes, today's topic is the Pelas of Peru. Why does that sound so creepy? I know, right? But before we start the topic, we do always have a listener almost always have a listener story, And if you have a story that you want to share with us to read, you can email as Spookyitoes at gmail dot com. You can submit it on Discord, you can leave it as a comment on TikTok or any social media. You can DM it on any social media, or you can call it a spookie hotline. There's a lot of it to us, yes, so many ways, and all that information does in the show notes. All right, take it away, Okay. So this listening story is from my world eight ninety sixty seven. My mom is from Alone and she always told me stories like La Caretta Nagua. I also experienced something called la Mona and it was scary. Ladies in Nikaraigua transform their souls into a mona, like a woman monkey. She's tall and has red eyes. It is done by a ritual where they stand in a tub of water and their body falls in and their soul transforms. My cousin experienced it too. The scene grabbed him from his shirt and tried to take him. It is said that women do this to steal things from neighbor's yards, like clothes and food. In two thousand and seven, for my grandma's funeral, I was sleeping alone in the house. Everyone was outside. It was night, and suddenly there was the sound of strong footsteps running on the roof. The roof was aluminum, the windows were opened, and I heard her jump down to the other side. Of the house. Mind you, people were already trying to get her. Damn. They were chasing it after her, They were chasing after La Mona. They hit her with the machette on her ankle. She ran and disappeared. The next day, some young kids came to the house and told my mom and Mathias that their step mom had a wound in her ankle and she wrapped it and was trying to hide it. Many people report women doing this ritual to steal clothes or food or anything left outside. That's just wild. It would be the step mom. And I say that as a step mom. No, but just because they're always like the bluecasts or little witches, you know. Yeah, so no, but very very similar to bluecast stories in Mexico of them shape shifting into creatures and then and then like finding the wound the next day, Yes, exactly. Then the neighbor that you don't like is flipping. But you never messed with people like that in these places because they always have much at this. It's like, uh, it's like a thing. Yeah, it is, like obviously as saluis, it's a thing to be like having much at it, but it's it applies to all the essentral America, and so yeah, they're gonna get They're gonna get the blucas out there with much eds. For sure, we'll get you. M hm, okay, well the topic. Yes, a listener reached out and asked if we could do an episode on the placas of Peru, and I of course said yes, I've never heard of those. Of course, yeah, of course, of course we will. But it turns out that this legend of Los Pelacas, the face Pillars, has ties to another legend that we have talked about a long, long time ago, the Pichtaco. Oh my god, I should have guessed that, I know, right, But how would you? I didn't know until I started writing these notes. But before I talk about the similarities here, let's let's share the legend of the face Pillars and some encounters, and then a little refresher on the Pichtaco. So let's travel for a moment to the home of the legend of Los Placaras. What is carry name? No, it is the Yuca, LII, Loretomadre de Dios regions of Peru or dense jungle, especially these three departments. They're on the border of Colombia. Well, they're like the Paru side, but they border Columbia, Gracil and Bolivia, and all three are located in the Amazon Rainforest. Basically the northeast to southeast of Peru is these three departments and they're touching those parts of Columbia, Brazil, Bolivia, and these jungles are home to a lot of creatures that have spawned so many legends, many of which we've already talked about, like giant snakes with two heads or just giant snakes in general, pink dolphins, that's the legend, the amazons, the pacha mamma. If you just respect her, she will get you with her duende named but also there is just gleende's in general. And these lands are extremely remote. There's basically only the indigenous tribes that these are. This is their home, and some of the tribes haven't had contact with the quote western world, but some have. It's a but yeah, there's a I forgot the amount of indigenous tribes tribe Scenaria, Yeah, that call the Amazon their home. And sadly this part of the world has also faced violence, yeah, starting with the colonizers of Peru and this region, but also today like at the hands of organized crime and deforestation, some which we have talked about. Yes, we have a he studied. It's unknown we talked about. His name was Reuben. He's the one who Manna has a song about about. Yeah, Yes, Mana has a song about him. He is was an environmental activist from the Amazon and he was killed for his activism to from the Brazil region of the Amazon. Yes, and then we have an episode also over at a studio has known about environmental activism in Latin America and the LATA is about the Amazon as well. And it's in this landscape that tales of the Face Pillars group with the first Support Society and dating back to twenty twenty two in Peru and then twenty twenty three in the more broader like world news in English and on social media. So this is a new lyre yes, but but more recent tales of these beings can be dated to twenty thirteen. Juan Serventez was found floating in the Pukuna Lake in Peru. There were no other signs of trauma except for his face was missing. Oh my god. I mean, like, I guess I could have guessed that from the name, but still that's like so scary. Yeah. Yeah, like the flesh was removed from his neck up and no one could explain how this happened. Authorities chalked it up to Piranha's Piranhas. I said that, I said it wrong. Okay, authorities could chalk this up. Authorities chalk this up to Piranhas. But that didn't make any sense because it was like very precise and they would have just like ate everything. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't really make sense. Also contrary to horror movies and what they will have to really people, No, no, no, don't believe everything you see on anaconda. Yeah, anyway, it didn't make sense because, yeah, it was so precise where his flesh was gone. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. No. Then in twenty twenty three, it happened again, this time to a young boy in the same lake, essentially the same situation. He was found floating and his face was missing. And then again in late twenty twenty four and a man named Pablo Vardalis was sitting on his porch along Pukuna Lake. He saw a light between the trees about fifty feet away from his porch, and he yelled out to his family so they could come and verify what he was looking at, like, hey, are you guys seeing the two lake And they all saw it. Yes, seven feet tall humanoid figures. They appeared to be wearing black bodysuits and some type of helmet and had big, yellow, glowing eyes and stood on a disc shaped platform that let them navigate between the trees with ease. They were fast flying through the jungle and quietly again, very vast, and Bablo, trying to protect his family, went to grab his shotgun and fired at them, but the pair of humanoid alien things, they were unbothered. The bullets just bounced off them. Then at some point they fired back with what appeared to be a red laser and Pablo was knocked out immediately. His family was frozen in fear, but they watched as a pair of humanoid creatures floated into the sky and then disappeared. And soon these types of reports grew until it seemed to be a daily occurrence in this area. The people of the village of San Antonio de Pintuyaku began making similar reports which were consistent, and none of these people were talking to each other, of course before saying what these things look like, but they all described them in the same way, a pair of humanoid creatures and all black with the same glowing yellow eyes, hurrying on round platforms with super speed and apparently bulletproof, and so out of fear of these things, the people began to form patrols in an attempt to protect themselves, and it was one of these patrols that heard the screams of fifteen year old Talia David la Dias, and this would become the first publicized, widely known attack of Los Pelacaras. So. Talia was in her backyard which faces the jungle, when she felt a rush of air and she saw the dead leaves in the ground rustling. She's like, what is this? So she turned around to see what was going on and she saw them, two beings floating on a round platform. She tried to run, but they were too fast. Next thing she knew, one of them was reaching for her face and then like grabbed her, you know, pulled her down. Then the other ground her legs, and then one of them grabbed like this tube thing and opened it and there was something inside and he smeared that onto her face, and it was some sort of like cold cream that made her face go numb right away, and she heard them speak in Spanish, one in a Peruvian accent in Spanish and the other with an American accent. What she was fighting the urge to faint, and she heard one of them say, gonquidado nosestanto la piel be careful, be careful, don't use too much go ruin the flesh on what I know. She didn't know this at the time, but apparently too much of that cream would make it harder to properly peel off the face. Oh yes, one of them took out a device that fired a red laser, and she began to smell the burning of flesh, which was her own. And this is when she realized that they didn't want to just kill her. They wanted to take her face. That's what they were talking about it. And as one of them was trying to use the laser to cut at her neck, she was able to push off his arm that had like a hold on her because he had like one arm on her shoulder. See, one of them was like had a hand an arm like on her shoulder to hold her down. And then he had like the laser and that's what he was using to like, you know, try and start peeling the peeling process, and so she was able to push his arm off and then that's when she was now able to move and scream, and she screamed and screamed, and that's when the one with the American accent it was like, let's get out of here, but in Spanish, and then the other oh no, the other way around. The Peruvian wie was like, let's get out of here, and then the American was like, no, we can't leave her. And then he like tried her face, yes, no without her face, and then he tried to grab her, like pull her. But then the patrol was getting close and closer and closer, and then they you know, got there. They were yelling like let her go, let her go, and they began to fire at the things. Oh my god, so they saw them, yes, and then the pair let her go and they disappeared into the sky, and the patrol surrounded her and took her to the hospital in Santa Maria, Nai where she gave her account to the police. And she did have two cuts on her neck, and she maintains her version of events, but authorities, when she told them this, they dismissed her story. Right away, and she, of course remains traumatized by this event, and I will share what they had They tried to explain it away to her at the end here. But stories like these began to spread all over those three regions of Peru that I already named and I have forgotten the name of but I said them earlier, right right, yes, yes, and yeah. All of them described these beings in the same way. Though sometimes they are in all black and it's like armoring that they have on. But sometimes he's green, so black or green, but it's always they're always in pairs, and they're seven feet tall. They're always floating on those like round platform things and flying at speeds that are too fast for like the human eye or whatever. These stories were dismissed or debunked by the Peruvian government, and this didn't sit right with a man named Timothy Alburrino. He has a YouTube channel and he's like a former I don't know, a special force at or remember his tit. He's a white man and he has a YouTube and he does things, okay, anyway, important things, Okay. So he was like, this doesn't sound right, and he went down to Peru to talk to the locals himself, and he actually grew up in the same region, so he knows the local indigenous language. And he was like, I will talk to them because this doesn't sound right. And so he learned that a group of students and their teacher witnessed a pair of humanoids too, and they all told the similar story that these things just shot up into the sky and disappeared after they were like caught trying to take someone. And then he talked to a different group of villagers from a different town but nearby. There had been another attack there, but this time they saw a craft, not just the pair, but like their ship. And there was other stories of people being hit with lasers as well, and then the pair of humanoids not being hurt by bullets seemed to be common as well. He found that the villagers were all too afraid to go out at night, and many towns had imposed curfews to try and prevent more attacks. And these towns had been asking for either police or military protection because of what was happening, which was not It was denied to them. And contrary to what others have said to debunk this story, Timothy was like, no, these are not ignorant like they have internet access, they just have to go to like the town center and they but they watch movies. They like they know about things. They're not like these ignorant little poor people like that don't know anything, which is how they're depicted often. And so he also said that stories of pelacas in this area were at least forty years old, that he heard them when he was a kid. Oh wow, so he can recall that they go at least back to the nineteen eighties. But elders when he was a kid, they were like, no, these weren't a thing when we were children. But he remembers, you know, adults telling kids like, oh, come home before dark, or pelad like watch out for the face pillars, or they're going to get you if you're out you know later or whatever. Yeah, as he talked to more and more villagers, and he learned that there had also been sightings of a ufo that accompanies these beings. It's an acorn shaped object that however silently over the village. It has stubby protusions on the side that fold open, and when they fold open, they deploy rapid flashing lights. And they had been seen floating thirty feet above the village, always at nighttime. One fisherman who saw this at three a m. Stated that it was so bright he thought the sun suddenly came out, but it was an acorn shaped object. He described it as transparent, like it had a mesh around it, and he saw two beings inside the craft. It say, there for a second before it sped away. What the fuck? Aside from these reports of the UFO, he also talked to at least twelve people that had been attacked by the laser by the laser weapons of these alien beans. You know what, that reminds me of that thing in Brazil that we talked about, Operation something. It started with the key yeah brato or some now was it bla brato? I think I yeah, yeah, pretty sure. I mean we can look at it, but it's one of those, one of those for sure. Yeah, anyway, that's what that maybe of. Yeah. He also talked to another young man in a different jungle city, two hours from where Talia was attacked. The teenager almost died from the cut on his neck, and he described almost the same incident as Tahalia without ever talking to her. Similarly, a group patrolling hurt his screams and rescued him. He eventually recovered, but, like Dahlia, remained traumatized. Wow, And his interview was Coast to coast. Timothy mentioned he had not heard of any other attacks since he left Peru, but I still in touched the villagers. Okay, let's get into theories. Okay, so theories. Like I said earlier, the Peruvian authorities told Talia and the villagers that it was the cartel illegally mining with the jet packs, and that's what they said, which I I mean, like that sounds like a lie. Are get packs functionable like that? Like, yeah, there's fast, there's commercial jet packs now, but they're super loud and they don't float that long or that far or that they talk about them being quiet, quiet, stealthy. Yeah, fast, and like go up so high that they disappear. So no, that's like that, there's no way that's it. And another proposed theory is that it was the military, the US military, And now this one I feel makes a little more sense. So there was a joint operation between the US Marines, Air Force and the Japanese military, and the Space Force was there, like I don't know in what capacity. Obviously we're not privy to this information. Yeah, but it was a sixteen day joint operation called Resolute Sentinel in twenty twenty three, and they were operating out of Ikito's naval base, which happened to be up river from Dalia's village. We shouldn't even have a nail base there, No, right, like white is it there? I think that's a perovn naval base. Okay, okay, yeah, why the fun they're just borrowing the nail base ye, yeah, for the operation. And so sources that I read for this said that the night vision goggles could explain glowing yellow eyes, and I guess I see it, But night vision goggles they don't glow like that, like because then it would make you stand out in the dark, like it would be true true. Yeah, I know, we had like all ass equipment in like my unit, but like so maybe there's new ones, but it why would I glow? Yeah, that's what I was LETNA say. I don't think that would be like conducive to a night mission, Like you don't want to not be noticeable, like you're trying to remain dark while seeing in the dark, and they're just like they go over your eyes. But they're all black, they don't glow. Yeah, so I I don't know about that, but again, maybe there's new ones. I don't know, it's been a while since I have used them, right, And there's also these experimental silent lifting systems, but they're huge and they look like like uh, these round ass circles with fans, and they're like quieter but they're like so rare and huge, but so nothing like well was described by no military. No, but this is just like what the sources try to like explain away anyway. Yes, And there's also like these fancy video game looking suits called like the tallow Suit, which exists to try and make like soldiers stronger, but they're not like the average military unit doesn't have access to these kinds of things. And I mean, I don't know what kind of unit was in this training exercise, but I just don't feel that they would all have these suits, like you know. Yeah, so that's one explanation, which like the American accent in Spanish that taliaher kind of it makes sense with that, yes, in this context would make sense. And if paired with the Peruvian soldier, like yeah, it could have been. Yeah. So I'm like Okay, well that that part fits, but some of this just doesn't to me either. But the Peruvian government stuck with their story of the cartel, and there's other people who believe will know, like there was that joint operation happening too, But there's also like US special forces were doing something in the area that no one knows and that sounds a little more believable than this having been that exercise, because they've done it before. It's like that that audio. That's like and if you think your government wouldn't do that, oh yes they would, Yeah, they would. Because in the nineteen fifties, the CIA faked vampire attacks in the Philippines against a communist group called the Hooks. What I yeah, I wow. Yeah. There's a belief in the Oswog in the Philippines, which we've talked about I think our Patreon before. But they're like a vampire like entity. There's like the Oswang is a type of monster, and then there's a bunch of like monsters off all under Oswog and one of them are vampires. And so the CIA had some operatives hide and wait for the Hooks to pass by and then take the last one of this group and then they punctured the man's neck, drained his blood, and put him back so that the rest of the hooks could find him. And it worked. They thought there was a vampire, and they ceased operations. And they did the same thing in Vietnam. They were in Vietnam and they had this like sig op I forget the name of the operation, but they would play like these screaming sounds of like this like legend in Vietnam. I didn't know that. Yeah, this surprised me, but I'm just like wow. So it's not for Fetch to think that they would be here pretend to be vampire. Again, not to mention that there's an interest for tech companies to mine these lands, yeah, for their natural resources. And there has already been attempted cuse in you know, Central and South America time and time again, you know, for US interests, which would align with the tech company's interests, because at the end, it's like capitalism and colonialism, right, Yeah, and the Amazon has always been a point of interest for capitalists, organizations and whatnot for the rich resources that are there. Yeah, and these lands, the Amazon happens to contain some of the most fierce land defenders. This is it's their home, Like, of course they're going to defend it. So, hey, wouldn't it be far fetched to me to think that there's some medaline taking place in the and after hearing what they did pretend to be vampires, like right, it really wouldn't be that chunking. And then on top of that, there's already illegal deforestation happening by organized crime. So I don't know. Timothy told Coast to Coast in his interview that he suspects, like He's like, yeah, it could be like something that is something that is happening. The villagers saw something they didn't see. They're not making this up. This is mass hysteria and it's not the cartel like the government told them. He believes it's humans with advanced technology, possibly deep state type operatives. Well, Timothy says, so I believe him. Honestly, I believe Timothy too. But now I present you with the supernatural explanation the Bistaco. Do other people also think it's this or it's just you? It's because it's they're so similar, right, But I'm wondering if you're the only one who has made this connection, or we also saw it liking your research. No, no, no, A couple of videos mentioned the pistacle. Yeah, but the pistacle, so the Pelacaras stories all mentioned that these creatures want like skin, the skin, the skin, But there's other stories. I also mentioned them wanting fat and possibly even organs like thecle which ties them to the pistacle, because the pitchtacle is a vampire, but instead of draining blood, it drains fat, and so that's why there's a similarity there. I see maybe either the same thing, but like maybe modernized. Yes, yeah, this legend of the Pichtacle dates back to when Peru was first colonized, and I just copying pasted what we shared before about the pichtacle. But because I didn't remember either, I was like, well, I want to remember. So the Spanish retreat their wounds with the fat of their enemies, which at the time was the indigenous people of the lands they were colonizing, and so it is said that they would kill indigenous people, take their corpses, and then boil them to obtain the fat that they needed to treat their wounds, but also to grease their weapons because their weapons would get super rusty. In the Amazon forests because of the humidity, and the earliest known reference to the Pieshtaquo legend is from fifteen seventy four, according to a priest named Cristo balle Molinam, indigenous people of the area avoided the Spanish and refused to let them enter their homes like vampires because they believed that they would be killed for their fat. And this legend only grew when the Bethlamite Friars opened a hospital in the year's empteen hundred, and then it seemed that indigenous people only went to this hospital to die like they never survived, they never came out of there, so it just fueled the rumors of all the Spanish being vampires. Indigenous communities also had stories of something called the Gauchoos or the runam Mikuk, meaning person who consumes, and in sixteen twenty one, Pablo Jose Ariaga wrote that the Gauchoos was a blood seeking creature who preyed on children. The gauchoos were steaking to people's home and put them to sleep using a powder made out of human bones, and then they would scratch their victim with their fringer nail and then drink blood from that scratch, and victims would dying a few days later from their wounds, and over the decade, Over the decades, the gauchoos legend merged with the pistaco legend, which then created the story of a fat, draining vampire. I mean, it makes sense for them to fear the Spanish who literally cause the end of the world as they knew it, right, right, And this isn't new like all over their stories like this, I mean even like Guaalaada. Take for example, like people you know the legend of the vampire tree. People were like, oh, the Spanish man is the vampire, like yeah, immediately because of how white they are, I don't know. And coincidentally, Talia, the girl who survived the attack of the face Peelers, described one of them as Spanish with an American accent, which called gringo, which I equate to white people gingo. Right, And so then this further makes sense that it would be a pistaco who is said to be who are said to be white, right right right. That is the legend of the Placaras, which in turn might also just be the legend of the pishtacle like a new take, like a model take. I could see it. I could see it thoughts. I just said my thoughts. Oh, those are my thoughts, like I can see the connection with those two legends and how it could be like it could derive from them. Sorry, I meant like, is there any one of these presentage theories that you are more inclined to believe out of all of them? Including that it's the beach tackle assuming to be realcle that or the deep stay operatives with that advanced technology. Honestly same, either one is equally scary. Yeah, yeah, okay, well we are in agreement then, okay, okay, let us know your thoughts in the comments, either on YouTube, Spotify, or whenever we make a post. You know, I will be posting pictures on Instagram of what people claim are pelacaras. I just didn't save any of them to show them to you, Okay, but you'll see them when everyone else sees them. I guess I'll just have to wait. Yes, and with that we will take a little outbreak here and come back with spooky recommendations. And we're back. Do you have any recommendations? I do, Okay. I just finished listening to a book called JUNI. Have you heard in this book you mentioned it? No, you had just started it. You were thirty four percent of the way through. Oh, okay, okay, So yeah, I read JUNI or I listened to Juni by Aaron Crosby Extein, and it was really good. Overall. I will say the horror aspect is not as strong, but the historical fiction aspect of it is super strong, which I really liked, and I wish it was scarier. But at the same time everything else kind of like mixed up for that. Okay, I must have read. Would you say similar to the Reformatory in that sense? I think there are Formatory you had more scarier aspects, like they had more moments with the ghosts and where they were being haunted by the ghosts and people were scared my god, and some of those descriptions where like he first heard, Yeah, the ghosts were so scary, they were scary, and I don't I was never scared listen to do this, but yeah. It's about Junie, who is an enslave sixteen year old. She was born enslaved at the Bellerine Plantation in Alabama. Her family has been there for generations and it's been a year since her sister Minnie has died and Juni is the what are they called? She tends to the master's daughter, who she considers her friend because that they grew up playing around, like playing together. And then the only reason she's in the house is because the daughter of Violet asked her to be like her maid or whatever, like her personal yeah and slave person discussing yeah, and neither understands the dynamic, okay until later on, but when Violet is said to Mary, she then fears that she's gonna have to leave with Minnie because that's a house I don't know if you were to call her a house girl or because when an enslaved person like attended to one person, they would leave if that person left, right, like a girl go with them, they would go with them. Yeah, And she doesn't want to leave her to the new household, right, She doesn't want to leave her family. So then she tries to think of a plan of how she can get out of this, and she thinks that Violet is marrying demanding her offer money because the family is not doing too good, and so then that's when she steals her this bracelet that her sister was buried with it was like a necklace or bracelet. I think it's a necklace and she steals it and that's what sets off, like itod awakens or strengthens Mini spirit. And then Minnie sent her off on this like series of things she has to do so that Mini can pass on, okay. And during that Juni meets someone that she ends up falling in love with, and it's almost like also a coming of a story. And at first Juni is kind of annoying because she's like stubborn and hard headed, but at the same time, like you're in dear to her, and it also speaks to her to tenacity, and I don't know, it was really good, Okay. I think that if you're like looking for something that the horror aspects are not as strong, but you're wanting a little paranormal, this would be perfect. Yeah, okay, I do have a spooky recommendation. I watched a movie called Beelzebus. It is a Mexican horror film, but it is different in the sense that it is in English and Spanish. It's set in a border town in Mexico. Most of it is in Spanish except when they encounter like the American people helping investigate what's taking place. But within like the first five minutes, it's brutal, like this least is the one you said was like that that you send us a picture and you're like, yeah, it's not shy away from children being killed in a mass. So, like, the whole premise is that there's this like, these horrible things happening at great speeds that normally don't happen like in Mexico. I mean sure in the US so, but even then that's a stretch. So the first like in the first one minutes, I don't want to spoil things, so basically, children die in numerous different ways before they figure out what's causing it and what's causing it. But it's like a religious horror movie, but it's a refreshing take on an exorcism type movie. It's like, oh, the Exorcist in Mexico, but different. It was a lot of fun. Did you ever watch Tenthified the show? Okay, well you don't know who he is in who Quaking Kosio is the police investigating these horrible things happening to children, and he carries the movie so well, he's so good in this. I don't know if you've seen him in anything, I recognize him, yes, yeah, okay, phenomenal his performance also the old guy from Saw oh yeah, although I wouldn't call his performance phenomenal. But the movie is fantastic either way. Interesting. Yeah, I highly recommend it, but it's not for the faint of heart. And also you have to like Campy. I love Campy, which I know, I know you would like this movie once you get past the horrible deaths. Oh of the children. They were just they did not hold back. They were not afraid to go there like to Grassy. They went there, and yeah, it was it was fun. It was fun. I do recommend it. I will make a longer video about it at some point. Actually I was about to do that after this so and my class. Yes, of course, but yeah, it was a lot of fun. So yeah, I recommend it. I also rented another movie called Macaio, but I have yet to watch that from like the nineteen seventies. Also Mexican horror, but I've been making it a thing to try and watch like a couple movies a week, but like Venture Out into more Mexican horror, So okay, I like that. Yeah, and then I will be making videos about these, so but yeah, that's my recommendation. Blsa boo bields a booth, bils a both. I don't know how I say. I thought it was Bill's a bob bel bel Oh, so it doesn't end with the b it's a thh Where did it get bails a bob? I don't know. But yeah, Other than that, we hope to catch everyone at our event. The Kukui is going to get you on November first in Yakima. The link for that is in the show notes. Yeah, come through, Come through. We're going to be telling some scary stories and there's going to be a bunch of other things going on. And also Jonathan from Latinos Againstpooky Shit is going to be there. Come to our event. Also, we might be seeing some of you in our other event on October thirtieth, the Spooky Run. We're not going to be running because we're going to be for the scary storytelling portion of that event. But yeah, and so yeah, other than that, say Spookie, we'll catch every one next time. Bye Bye. A Book Tells is hosted by Christina and Carmen, produced and edited by Christina. Researched by Christina Carmen and with the help of Don shout out with Don. If you aren't joining the podcast considerably going to say five star review, we would really appreciate it. If you don't want to the professor review, just don't leave a review. But don't leave anything lower than that, please, I'm just kidding. You can reach out to the podcast at a Spooktees at gmail dot com. You can go to our website at bookitos dot com and fill out the contact form. If you want to support the podcast, you can join our Patreon where we send exclusive stickers, have bonus episodes. 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