Chupacabras: The Famous Goat Blood Sucker

Welcome to Scary Mystery Surprise, where we talk about creepy things that surprised us around the internet. That Medwin. I'm Michelle. Welcome Surprise Surprise. We're back. So, Michelle, we were recently in Dallas, Texas, right like one of your favorite cities ever. And actually, you know what, by the time I left, I had a better time than I thought. If I have to go back to Dallas for some reason, I'm not totally upset about it. I like to except for the crickets. I think there was a lot of crickets, but I don't know. That didn't really bother me. As long as I don't find them in my bed, I'm okay with crickets. I found them in the bathroom, le in the room, but like jumping around doing their thing. Watching you so much watching you thought it would be fitting to do this cubacavra like the text and Chubacabra episode over there. But when you brought it up, immediately thought of all of the news reports. Matt Woods of South Texas. You never know what might be around the corner or in your trend. He saw this strange animal singing up here eating carn residents are certain they found the mythical despicable chuop of Cabra. It terrified me and my sister obviously. Like for me back then, I'm like, whoa, it's real When I started looking it up. Now this is going fast forward twenty thirty years or whatever. It doesn't seem as scary, but it's still weird. So the chupa cabras like literally means goat sucker. I didn't know that's what it meant. Tupa means to suck, cavra cara, it's goat. Oh, it's so dirty. It has been spotted primarily in the American continents right, so US Mexico countries in Central and South America. But since we're pretending we're in Texas, like, we'll start there. The website that I found this on was Texasobserver dot org and this article is written by Asher Elbin. In June two thousand and seven, a woman named Phillis Canyon c a n ion so Canayan maybe was walking through the pasture areas of a ranch in south central Texas during the day. And Phyllis was a naturalpathic doctor hunter and often went on trips to Africa and stuff like that. So I can kind of imagine her already. I mean, I imagine her having big, flowing, curly hair that's a little frizzy, but very wild. I was imagining more broad shoulders, big belt. Okay, okay, you're going more western with that. I could get along with that. But I think she's got this big mane of hair under a cowboy hat. We should look her up later just to see who was right. So she was one of those people right like, she was into hunting and so she was familiar with bugs and animals, and she was actually shocked after seeing a hairless canine figure quote with blue gray flesh and bony limbs. Soon after, they found one of their chickens with its throat torn open and it was drained of blood, and if Phyllis and her husband were like, yo, what the heck? So they set up cameras around the area, but they didn't catch anything. So what actually did work, though, was hitting it with a car. Wait. Wait, that's a big jump. That's a really big jump from the set up cameras and they couldn't find anything and then they hit it with a car. Yeah, I guess I said that weird because they didn't actually hit it. Someone else hit it with a car, so one of the neighbors called them over because obviously this became a thing in the area. There's a creature, this thing is walking around. They're trying to be careful anyway, So they found it on the side of the road and they're like, yeah, if somebody hit it, it's there. It's funny how there's a picture in the article and it looks like a hairless dog, right. It just looks like one of those hairless dogs that are like grayish blueish. They just look strange. But the caption is what really kills me, right, because they actually got it a stuff. They put it in display and the caption says Baro rancher Phyllis. Kenyon insists this stuffed specimen, which experts say is a coyote, is an authentic Texas tobaicavra. I think I've seen that picture and I think that's what I was like, it's just a shaved coyote. Right when I saw it, I was cracking up at at the caption. I was like, experts say it's a it's a coyote. So whatever the experts say doesn't matter, because the couple got kind of famous. They have done dozens and dozens, like over one hundred interviews and documentaries. They've been all over the place and media appearances answering questions about it. Because people were really obsessed over this thing. And this is what two thousand and seven I mentioned, right, But if you take a step back to the so of nineteen ninety five, people in Puerto Rico actually were freaking out over something like this because goats were being killed. Obviously, like these are expensive animals if people make a living off of them, so it was it was a big deal. And the animals will be found with wounds at their throats, and that's where they say that were the name Chippacava actually was born because it was killing the goats and draining their blood. There was this woman there in Puerto Rico. Her name was Madeline Tolentino. She was outside of her mother's house in a place called Cano Venus, and that's where she saw an earless creature with the spiny back coming up to the yard. And it had long limbs and huge eyes. I'm imagining like the alien gray eyes. Ah okay, you just made it like creepier. You see the arch back with the spine knobs in it. Andy's naked. Oh no, there's no ear, alien eyes and gangly, gangly arms and legs and obviously sharp teeth because it's got to be able to suck goat blood. Oh jeez, yeah, oh no, that just made it a creepier and says right here that Madeline was so scared that she screamed. Obviously, I mean she screamed, but the thing was startled, so it like kind of leapt, like the way a cat leaps when it's embarrassed, and it goes sideways. Sure, yeah, that's how I imagined. I got out of there. It was like, oh, oh, let's go with that. And you know, it's so creepy. I've seen that jungle line, that tree line that people always say, oh, beyond that you can't see. I know what that jungle line looks like, and I'll tell you it's creepy. It's not like the woods. It's like a wall. It seems to me, it seems like you have to dive in. I mean, I'm just imagining what a Puerto Rican jungle might look like. I don't know, but I've seen other jungle lines like gus In where the start is and yeah, it's creepy because you don't know what's there and there's all these noises and oh yeah, I probably would have screamed too. AnyWho, we should probably do a break thing here? Well you know it, Kitty Kit danced into the bushes, so what a perfect spot for a break? What deep deep, deep deep act of the lady screamed, Let's see if we get an ad with this. So lots of theories came up from documentaries, articles and all this stuff that happened after this Madeline witness, you know experience. That's when sketches started of a red eyed creature that walked on two legs. One of the theories, which I think is it's possible. It said that it might be an experiment from the US government. I mean they say aliens, UFOs and stuff also might be experiments. There were others that were a little more out there that say they're saying that the thing was an alien and it was part of a bunch of like a group of them that were collecting blood to spread aids. That's so specific, but also like really, why not make up your own disease? You know, Things started getting crazier and I think that's when the wave of news and all those things. It's like the times match up, like around nineteen ninety five, nineteen eighty seven, nineteen ninety eight, Like those times, I'm like, I'm conscious, I'm watching the news. I'm getting Yeah, you're absorbing. I'm learning about you know, everything, and your brain is being molded. It's you know, at a very pliable stage. By the way, like this is real. Like I used to always watching this, like on the news. It was there, like reporters would say Chupacaba has been spotted and blah blah blah blah blah, and I used to freak out. I used to be like, is this real? And then we used to joke around because you know, we used to have those trips down to the desert because around here there's a desert, and I would imagine that. I was like, what if we see the thing there? And it was kind of like a you know, not even a joke. It was supposed to scare us, but it really did work, really really shape my youth there and my interest in the paranormal. I mean, is this it is this where it started? Is in Chupacabras. Well, I'm pretty sure this is the start of the actual chupa cabra like term. And because there's a lot of different other creatures and things that you know, they started, you know, that have been going on since way way before creatures, like you know, it's regular cryptid stuff. Yeah, there's that weird thing that's just the two legs and then that has the head on top. I forget what that's called. It's one of those things that's on that show Paranormal caught on camera all the time. They usually have like a few clips of a weird thing that's just one isn't it super creepy, Like it just looks like you're talking about that thing that looks like it just kind of does that right, Yeah. Yeah, and it's got a head on top and it's just like two legs within a Yeah. I don't know, I don't even know what that's called. I love how we're describing the spookiest thing and yet we don't even know what it's called. Yeah, we gotta we have to look this up and actually do a thing on it, Like I'm pretty sure people are listening. No, And also I always imagine like a clown head and then clown pants, you know, the old timey clown with maybe the rough around his neck and then it's just his legs. So you have a way of turning creepy into normal, I mean weird. I don't know if that's normal. I would say that's probably equally as creepy. If you saw a clown that was just two legs and a head, like especially like an old timey clown, you'd be like, what the hell is going on here? So when they used to draw it out, I remember this from T shirts that they were selling in like swap meets and stuff. They used to draw it with wings. I remember that, like tiny wings, like bat looking wings. Other people say that it used to be able to fly using psychocanisis or what is it called? Is that what it's hYP pronounced that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's psychocanesis. It would fly with its mind and then you know, eventually started making its way to the US, so Miami then kind of moved to the south and the deserts now. I don't want to say that I don't believe that this thing, it's like, you know that I don't believe it exists because I don't know. I mean, it's unlikely that it's the same thing that they've got, you know, but considering experts literally said that was a coyote. Yeah, and you know, I have a note. I have a note on that, like it says, but it's important to mention that the woman Phyllis who encountered their first creature that I mentioned, claims that the creature's DNA does not match anything in the DNA archives. But the article blatantly says immediately after that her statement is false. That and that university and other universities matched the creature with the coyotes. Phyllis. Nice, try nice, try Phillis, But she said that they're wrong and that it is abra and the you know, I mean, who should we believe anyway, right, Like, sure, it's the cub ofcabra. There you go. Yeah, I think it's probably a shaved coyote to get the DNA archives, or one of those weird hairless dogs you know that have the weird tufts of air. I mean, maybe that's the cubicabra. I saw one in Peru actually, and it creeped me out and I was like, what is this? Or I always think of it like I don't know, I think the one in Puerto Rico. I'm always just like, is it just a weirdo that's sucking goat blood? You know, like is it a like a human that's just being super fucking weird? Like that is always that is kind of always my default about stuff, where I'm like, is it a cryptid or is it a human being really really weird and sucking blood and just being a little nuts. I mean, I think we'd prefer to have it be the chup of cabare like kitty Cat dancing back into the jungle, that it being a creepy man. You're right, You're right. I think I would rather no one wants to run into that creepy man. I would rather see a big, gray, skeletal coyote creature with alien eyes and spindly fingers, then then a man that's drinking goat blood. You know. Nowadays I believe it, like I guess it's possible. Now I'm pretty sure I've seen people do some pretty strange things, like this morning, someone was just dancing around in a busy intersection with cars trying to serve around it. God, I mean, La La. One time I was driving in downtown La and a street sign was just on fire on the one to ten and it was one of those ones just above the freeway. And thank god I've lived here for a while because this would be really threatening if I if you didn't know, that's la oh wait, look, people do some weird stuff. I don't know, and like there's some convincing videos. I'll tell you that. During my search, Like I found some videos that were like what is that? Or you know, even the actual news reports when they're filming and they go the news reporter goes on location or whatever the creatures that they film aause in the victim animals, it's scary. You could see a gash on their throat. And then I mean the part too that the article mentioned was about blood. They weren't sucked like dry, like they weren't dry. All the blood was not gone. But people used to say that, yeah, like it was so like who do we believe? You know, like is Phyllis versus the government? Phyllis in her long flowing hair and her cowboy boots and her I don't know, snake skin belt. I want to look her up right now just to see, just to see. I want her to be this empowered woman who doesn't take any shit. What does she look like? Oh my god? Okay, so she has a short blonde hair, she's older, she apparently is a comic con, and she's dressed in a power suit? Is she at comic con because of the So she's made a career out of denying that this thing is a coyote? Yep, there's a lot of articles with her saying Texas Woman claims she's found the mythical Supercower. Yeah. So, I mean, this is obviously a moneymaker. I would, oh boy, I would turn into a conspiracy theorist if i'm you know, if I see the same thing you just kind of stumble on this creature, you just say, no, this does not match any DNA out there. It seems like it might just be a very sick coyote that didn't have any hair. Oh and you know what in Puerto Rico also that article mentioned that they found a creature. They found a creature, and when they found the thing, they did an analysis on it or whatever. They actually saw that it was just a dog with probably with some disease, like a skin disease, which is also like spooky. I mean, rabies is scary. I mean what other animal could be just biting next and not eating the actual animal, right, like yeah, I don't know, and just having a little sippy sip of the blood. It is weird though, when you look at it like that. So it's a gash. I was imagining like two little vampire bites on it or something, you know, I suppose out of the woodwork. People also say this is they're probably vampires too. It's like cupcabre or vampires, right. Yeah. And you know another image that just popped up into my head when you said that about the vampire thing was that these I mean, this thing became a really popular thing. By the way, this is like vivid like memory in my head. Is like there some of the drawings in shirts that were worn. Maybe some people listening might have seen this if they grew up around here. It was a creature with a straw stuck in the neck of a goat and it was just sucking its blood, and you know, like it was like that. It was like a like a like an icon. I don't know, it was so popular. It's I don't know, it just really such to me. It's super interesting. I want to I want to believe that this thing is true, but do you know, DNA archives experts, experts don't believe it's real. It's a naked coyote or it's an interdimensional alien and we'll never be able to prove its existence or not. Well. See, the other only option that I thought of was maybe a shape shifter. You know, somebody told me the story in for the other podcast about a shape shifter that they turned into a goat. But it looked like another weird creature. I don't know. It like a whole group of people actually saw it, and I was like, hmm, maybe this thing got caught and it turned into coyote. I don't know. I'm really like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I like I like that. I like that though. It's like, yeah, if it's a shape shifter and it got caught and yeah, it just got stuck in the body of a coyote, yeah, and then it yeah that way, it's you know, it stays under undercover. Whatever. Look, we're establishing a world is that if a shape shifter gets you know, killed in the form that it's in, it stays in that form and its DNA changes every time it changes shape. So you don't know, like if it's a goat. Was it always a goat? I don't know, there's no way to prove it. Sounds like everything's a shape shifter. Oh my god, it I mean, look, I maybe I'll put on my power suit and dye my hair blonde and go to comic cons. You could just you know, start talking theories and that's it. There you go. I can talk theories all day long. Yeah. I mean, it was never caught on camera, so she doesn't have visual proof. She just she has physical proof, which I should should trump it. But I love that she has physical proof that doesn't prove anything at all, and in fact, has been disproven multiple times. I mean, it's just a weird, creepy dog that drinks blood or you know, it's some sort of Satanic cult that is, you know, secretly killing goats. Yeah, that's possible. Goats have a significance, like in the whole Satanic thing. Oh wow, well in Satanic stuff also just in other like Herabean religions in general, goats are her true sacrificed pretty frequently. There's like a crossover. So like that's also why, like I wouldn't put it past it being just a weird man. It's dreaking go blood or doing something strange. It is possible, like and it just missed that. Yeah, because yeah, the cupicavro would be a great cover for other nefarious behavior because you could just start that up. Meanwhile, it would cover all your weird sacrifice stuff that you're any sort of any sort of stuff. Still creepy, still creepy. So when I think when I used to pass empty dark roads in the desert, I would imagine that you would imagine that thing. Oh yeah, it's creepy, that creature. That's so funny. I think I always imagined. Well, this is just a weird story. But when I was a teenager, we used to drive around the Northwest at night, like me and my friend and her uh, I don't know what it was. It was like a corvette that had an exhaust leak in it, and we just drive around in that all night long. And one time we were driving down this curvy forest road and there was just someone standing on the side of the road and a beekeeper outfit like with a beekeeper's maskot what. I couldn't see the face or anything. And we're talking about the middle of the night, like two or three in the morning. And you didn't stop nothing. You just hell no, we like screamed and got the fuck out of there. Hell no, are you kidding me? Why was the person in a beekeeper's mask in the middle of the night. That's a good story. I like that. That's why I always think of a desolate road, someone just standing there where they shouldn't be. So much scarier than a creature to me, super creepy. Yeah, I don't know. To me, a creature would be number one creepiest thing. Yeah, I think the trip of cars. For me, it was just more like memories. It was cool. So thanks for bringing up that topic by the way, Michelle, Oh yeah, Texas Baby. And if any of the listeners out there have an idea or have a topic, I'm looking for something really like hidden and dark, like I want something like something I don't know, like like sneaky I don't know either that, or like something like an event I don't know if you've talked about like creepy, just events, like something an occurrence I don't know, like the UFO thing or a bunch of a whole city side or something that's just like that. That's what I'm looking for. So if anybody out there has an idea for us to talk about. Email me, hey, email us, I'll email us. 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