What do you know about the Men in Black? Oh? Well Smith right, good times, rip career ri ip. Welcome to Scary Mystery Surprise, where we talk about scary things that surprised us around the internet. I'm Edwin, I'm Michelle. Well, yeah, this one's about the Men in Black bute, not like the Men in Black, not the cartoon or the movie. Did you ever watch the cartoon? Michelle? There was a cartoon about it? No, I did it. It's really good, was it? Yeah? It was like on I don't know. It was one of those Saturday morning things. I think it was. It was really cool. But this one is actually about the Men in Black, the real ones. I think. I don't know if the movie's based on these guys. It has to be, I've it has to be. I mean that didn't just come out of the air Men in Black. I mean that, how did to have come from this legend? Or? Yeah, that's true. Would it be a legend? I mean urban legend? Or it's more of a conspiracy theory? Huh right here we're abel the phenomenon. But I mean, yeah, conspiracy obviously. You have those people that say, like, there's these people who came to my house or whatever. But you know there's witnesses that say that, Yeah, these men in blacks, men's men. These men's are black. Yeah, actually visit whenever you have an encounter. So I'm excited. I like this stuff. I mean aliens. Yeah, I actually really like aliens. You're into aliens. Yeah, maybe I might tell you about what I think that I had an encounter with one. I might. I might just say it. Oh, yeah, tell me, yeah, it's I mean, I guess we have to get through the menimal. You can tell me after we hear about men in black. So here we go. They wear many hats. They wear many hats. The men's in blacks men working for government agencies that deal in secrets and unusual activities, in human creatures who look like men but perform extraordinary acts, and most notoriously, the mysterious men who ate the government in hiding the existence of aliens and UFOs. If you're lucky enough to glimpse a UFO, you might be unlucky enough to be visited by one of the so called men in black. According to legend. Okay, so we're calling it a legend. Yeah, I guess. So that's what we're going with okay, legend of the Men in Black. Yeah, if you see a UFO, you might get a visit from one of these guys. Take Harold Doll, for example. On June twenty seventh, nineteen forty seven, Doll was on digit sound with his son Charles, and their dog when he saw six donut shaped objects floating above the water. One of the objects plummeted and debris hit Charles and the dog, injuring the former and ultimately killing the latter. The dog. The dog died. Yeah, Doll took photos of the falling objects and his dead dog. You know. Even Stephen King said that like when dogs die and stories, he gets a lot of crap from like readers. Oh yeah, I actually look up movies before I go see them to make sure the animal doesn't die, and if it does, I don't see it. Wow. Yet you're okay with like a little kid dying, it's just like, oh yeah, totally fine. But if somebody's pet dies, I am over it. But also it's like a trope in film. If you need to prove that somebody's evil, they kill an animal. And I'm just I think it's lazy writing. Yeah, I can see that Dall took photos of the following object. He showed those photos to his supervisor, Fred Chrisman, who went to Puget Sound and saw the object for himself, becoming a second witness. Hoo. A man in a black suit visited Doll the morning after the incident. This man recited Doll's experiences the day before with absolute accuracy, then said what I'd have said, This proved to you that I know a great deal more about this experience of yours, the new Walter Bolon. The man warned Dahl not to talk about the sighting or earls Dunda dum or d Despite Dahl and Chrisman later recounting their claims, the mythology behind the Men in Black has persisted, and other encounters feed the conspiracy. Okay, so now it's a conspiracy, Michelle. Okay, Now we've switched from legend to conspiracy. Yeah, gotcha. Okay. And before that it was a phenomenon. It was a phenomenon. Okay, Yeah, but now it's a conspiracy, gotcha, gotcha. Albert K. Bender, the founder of International Flight Saucer Bureau, was also allegedly visited by the Men in Black. Bender was a member of the Air Force. After he was honorably discharged, he and his parents moved to Bridgeport, Connecticut. Bender had what he called a chamber of horrors in his attic, containing items such as shrunken heads and original art. He was fascinated by the supernatural. Why his original art like part of the shrunken heads and original art like what is that? Yeah, it sounds like an interesting guy though. He was fascinated by the supernatural, which complimented his fascination with UFOs, leading him to found the IFSB, which was the thing I mentioned before, the International Flying Saucer Bureau. In nineteen fifty two. The organization gained global fame, with six hundred members worldwide. The IFSB had a quarterly newsletter called Space Review that contained UFO citing testimonies as well as theories. It was through Space Review that Bender orchestrated c Day, a collective reading of a form letter written by himself by all the members of the IFSB at six pm on March fifteenth, nineteen fifty three, as an attempt to communicate with alien life form. Oh okay, yeah wait, so he just like stood there and read it out loud. Yeah, I guess all of them at the same time. We're going to do that. Yeah, the reading of the letter, but like on what device, Like I'm hoping it was like on a device as opposed to just to the air. Maybe it was just like maybe they communicate like mentally, so as long as you just like read it forever. Maybe I hope a radio was involved. Yeah, I hope, I hope something. I hope they didn't just read it go stand on their porch and read it out loud to connect with aliens. I mean maybe maybe that works. I mean, we don't know. As possible. After starting if SB, Bender began having disturbing experiences. So does a man with glowing eyes stalking him and a persistent foul odor from his attic He's experienced. His culminated in multiple visits from three men in black suits in July nineteen fifty three, who demanded he stopped his investigation into UFOs and stop collecting original art. Also, the smell of his attic is probably from the shrunken heads. It's true, It's possible. That's true. Bender believed that these men were employed by an alien power. He eventually gave and ended the IFSB Space Reviews last issue contained the following message. The mystery of the flying Saucers is no longer a mystery. The source is already known, but any information about this is being withheld by orders from a higher source. We would like to print the full story in Space Review, but because of the nature of the information, we have been advised in the negative. We advise those engaged in saucer work to be very cautious. Albert Bender wrote an autobiography and moved to California, where he passed in twenty sixteen, while the Men in Black remain in the realm of flour The government's involvement in UFO investigation is very real. Now. That's the thing that scares me, Michelle, seriously, what that the government's involved. Yeah, I mean that always scares me when they're involved in anything. But imagine you have like all this research, right, like you have solid proof, like yeah, there's aliens now, and the government's like, yo, no, we can't do that, and then that's it, Like they take all of your books, all of your everything. Like it sounds to me like you know how religion was like back in the day, since you're you like history and stuff where you couldn't say that the Earth was round or whatever. Yeah, you were like put in jail and stuff like that. Yeah, totally, it's what this feels like. Oh, one hundred percent, that's what it feels like. And now the Pentagon says that, yeah, there are aliens. Yeah that's true, I mean not aliens. We have seen UFOs and we don't know what they are. And yeah, but they call them unidentified objects or whatever, so that doesn't necessarily mean they're alien. They're just unidentified objects. That's how they get around it, which I kind of always appreciate when someone can just wiggle the language just a little bit and they're like, well, there are UFOs, but are there? What do they mean? We don't know. We just don't know what it is. In the last couple of decades, American politicians have been increasingly transparent in terms of research investigating UFOs or UAPs, which are unidentified aerial phenomena as government agents like to call them. A video leak of Navy pilots witnessing UFOs in twenty seventeen facilitated the destigmatization of UFO fascination, but the government's history with UFOs began much earlier. The US military first saw UFOs. On July twenty third, nineteen fifty two, above Pottstown, Pennsylvania, F ninety four starfire Fighter jet pilots sparted a large silver pear shape object. The object did not appear to have any mechanism that would allow it to fly. The pilots also saw two smaller objects orbiting the larger one for a total of thirty minutes. Two more UFOs were spotted by an Air Force captain that same year, four days earlier in Elkins Park in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Between nineteen forty seven and nineteen sixty nine, the US military investigated over twelve thousand UFO sidings worldwide as part of Project Blue Book. Seven hundred and one of those cases remained unsolved. It didn't do a very good job of investigating. Man, do you believe in an aliens? Michelle? I do you believe in? I don't know. I just don't know. I'm on the fence. They're like one of those things that I'm just on the fence about, you know, Like I think the Lockdest Monster is bullshit, But aliens, I'm like, I don't know, I don't know. Maybe that was an alien, The Lockness Monster who knows, maybe or a tourist trap. But whatever, it's fine. That's fine. The US government is on alone and it's dabbling in ufology or ufology. Canada, Denmark, Italy, and Sweden all had euthology programs sponsored by the country's government, and France's geipa N is still an active organization. In two thousand and eight, to US Senator Harry Reid approved twenty two million dollars in fundy to start a ufology research initiative. That blew my mind when I read that in the article. Or I was like, Harry Reid did that. The guy from Nevada did that. But you know, Nevada has aliens like you know that? Right? Yeah, I guess now that I'm saying it, I'm like, oh, I guess that makes sense. It would it makes sense for Arizona and New Mexico as well to evolve joint forces on that. Yeah, aliens love the desert for some reason. Plus, that's where Area fifty one is. I think I thought it was in New Mexico. Or no, I guess Roswell's in New Mexico. We don't know this. Yes, Area fifty one is in Alexa. Where's Area fifty one, the United States Air Force Facility, commonly known as Area fifty one, is a highly classified remote detachment of Edward's Air Force Base within the Nevada Test and Oh Nevada. You are right, it is Nevada. Thank you Alexa. We use Alexa the podcast of course, I am here thing of be your author, go host okay. In two thousand and eight, US Senator Harry Reid approved twenty two million dollars in fundy to start a ufology research initiative called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, the existence of which was made public until a decade later when research documents from the program were leaked. Another progression that was made this year when the Senate Intelligence Committee, headed by Senator Marco Rubio, called for a public report on UAPs. The report refers to UAP as objects originating from Earth, which conflicts with their common association with the extraterrestrial The Men in Black was cemented in American pop culture in nineteen ninety seven when Men in Black was released. Wow, that was released in nineteen ninety seven. That's like almost weird, right, so a long time ago? How come I always end up having to do the mass on the side. I usually I go with twenty, so like I add twenty in that case, it would be twenty seventeen after twenty years. Twenty years, no way. Oh yeah, so it's over twenty years old. I remember the posters now that I think about it. An animated TV show targeted for kids, premiered three months after the box office release of the first film and aired for four seasons through two thousand and one. I told you it was a cartoon. Look, I didn't doubt you. There's also some witness accounts of men in black, right, like security cam footage. People actually saw two creepy looking men walk into a hotel and they got, you know, caught on camera. They're just completely bald, and they say that their lips are like ruby bred like, so they just look fake. They look robotic, they're tall. Is the theory about the men in Black is that they're aliens, right like that they're aliens helping the government. I think it's more like they are members of a government agency that tries to cover all this stuff up. But they could be aliens. I mean, all the accounts say that they're not human, so maybe aliens try to make a human and have come and destroy evidence. So my mom has this story about how she had a coworker, I don't know, back in the eighties and she was working for like an electrical firm or something like that. So like he was an engineer and totally just an odd guy. And so one day he was bored and he took a trash can lid and put tinfoil on it in the air and took a photo of it, and then proceeded to tell everyone that he had taken a photo of applying saucer. And then a couple of weeks went by, and then these weird guys showed up at his house dressed in black, asking him all about the photo, and then he invited them inside made them hot cocoa, which I don't understand, Like that's like a weird that's like a weird part of a story that I'm like, why do you why? And she's like, I don't know why. He made him hot coco it's a weird story. I don't know what. And then he realized that they both didn't have socks on. So they're both sitting there in their black suits and neither one of them have socks on. And then they pretended to drink the cocoa, but when they left, the cocoa hadn't been drank, And I was like, that is such a weird story, mom, and she's like I know. And I was like, wait, so do you think the Men in Black actually Kavid like visited this guy? And she's like, well, you know, I think he was like fucking around, you know, and someone decided to fuck with him. And I think it was a weird, elaborate prank that somebody did. So wait, so this guy's like a credible source, like he said this happened. Yeah, well yeah, I mean it's it's credible as someone who makes up a UFO sighting is. So he couldn't have made up like the obviously he made up the UFO sighting, but he couldn't have made up the Men in Black though, I mean, it's pretty elaborate to like go that far, like the weird detail of making cocoa. And then was he freaked out? Yeah, he was very worded out, but oh wow, because he like had to explain to these guys that he had faked the whole UFO thing, like it was just a trash can lid with tinfoil on it that they threw in the air, Like that's it, that's wow. Where did this happen again? The Puges sound full circle, full circle the Northwest obviously. Wait wow, interesting? Okay, I like that. I like that story, like how it's weird, Like the whole hot cocoa part isn't that? I think that's still the weirdest part to me is the hot cocoa, Like you didn't have coffee, you didn't have water, You made him hot cocoa. A weird guy that makes that places you do? I California, I never ever made that was buy it? Like yeah, not even yeah. I'm like maybe I'd do it if I were someplace snowy or whatever, but I probably won't. Hot cocoa is not a top priority for me, like having it on stock. It's not a top priority, Like I just imagine like, yeah, come on in, let me make you some hot cocoa. I mean it makes me me, you know, more suspicious of that guy than like the men and black They were probably just as weird as out by him and making them drink cocoa. And then no socks. Yeah, then no socks is pretty weird with a suit thing because like, if you were real FBI, you'd have socks. Yeah, I mean, and you'd have socks on. Did he say what they look like? I don't think he did. I think he just said they were like g men looking guys. They'd be FBI, except they had no socks, and they didn't drink the hat coco. They didn't drink it and pretended to drink it, which is weird. Wow, that's a really good story, though his shows, isn't that weird. It's weird because I tentatively told my mom we might be doing the Men in Black, and she's like, I have a men in Black story, and I find it so strange that it happened right there. Of course I have another story where. This is also why I'm on the fence about aliens is because in college, my friend her brother made crop circles in Shahelis, which is in the Puget Sound, and it got featured on Unsolved Mysteries. Oh what. He was just bored one night and he made a bunch of crop circles with his friends and he did a really good job, and so people thought it was It's real, and it gots featured on unself Mysteries. Wow. That's why I'm always a little like about aliens. Her brother was very smart. He ended up being a tech millionaire later, so you know, he made crop circles for fun. That cut featured on Solve Mysteries. Wow. And they're very mathematical supposedly, so it makes sense checks out. Good story too. Wow. That's awesome, though, I don't know for me though. Oh yeah, you got to talk about your alien encounter. It's weird because the first off, people are just gonna think I'm super, super, super weird. I just told you a story about drinking cocoa. Trust me, this one's like it was probably one of my first like what I would call paranormal encounters, but I wasn't sure at the time. I was sleeping and I tell this story actually, whenever I can tell this story, like, I try to make it seem like it didn't happen to me, but it happened to me. I was in my bed. I don't know what time it was midnight, I don't know, and I had a clow which had a mirror door, like you know those huge sliding mirrors, and my bed was right next to it. So I remember turning around it was kind of open and out of the closet that was like kind of dozing off or whatever, and I just hear this wind, like like a helicopter, like just wind. I'm like, what is that all of us? I'm not even kidding you, miche is this is one hundred percent real. This bright light I'm saying, like it felt like a spotlight, like right right bright, right right, and I could hear this wind and everything. It started shining on me and I was like, what is this, what's happening? Is it coming from the closet? Blah blah blah. And I just remember the dozing in and out for a while. Next thing you know, I'm fully awake and I run out of the room and I find whoever. I think it was my dad who was there in the living room, which is I don't know. He was like asleep with the TV on, typical dad stuff, and he's like, what happened or whatever? And I'm like, I just saw this. I could like a thing like I couldn't even describe it. Seriously, did you see a figure or did you see it was just the light and the noise. Yeah, Now the things that started happening after is what I found weird. Uh huh, so this is super weird to think about because it's happened. Tell me, tell me everything. My dad went into like he saw the closet was kind of open, and he's like, was it open before? I'm like, I don't remember, because I really couldn't remember. He started looking through everything and found a box of books which I had paranormal stuff. I used to read them back in the day. I was like, hey, I don't know. I don't remember nine, nine years old, ten, honestly, I don't remember. But then I started noticing that things started popping, like the TV. You know those old TVs. We start popping at random times. And one time I remember clearly it was on and I was like, okay, at midnight, I'm just going to turn off the TV. Right, I've midnight looked me shut off by itself, and I was like, okay, this is weird. I ran out of the room again. Again. I'm a big chicken, right, I'm a kid. Well, it's totally totally valid to be a big chicken when you're nine years old. You don't have to be a big strong man. Yeah. I run another room and I just don't want to go back in and then eventually I don't know, I just kind of calmed down. Now, the creepy part is that I started looking this up, like way back, once I had internet. That was probably in high school already. Somebody told me that they're like, day, do you look at this thing? It was like a blog post on singer or something where this guy was like kidnapped or whatever, had an encounter with alien. He described the light, he described the sound, He described echoes, which I didn't hear. I don't remember echoes. But then he said that his life kind of turned around and he just started getting more It wasntllogical. The word is more like pensive, like more intro like I don't know, And that's what he said. That's when the stories started. Really I started really losing it because it was like I didn't become that I'm the same, I think the same as you were when you were nine. What he creeped me out thinking that what if that thing was an alien thing? Oh one hundred percent. Well, and that was like validating too, which is what I love about paranormal accounts is that something happens and you're like, oh, I'm crazy, I'm crazy. I'm crazy. And then someone else just shares something and then all of a sudden it's like, oh but it's fine, like I happened and it was weird, but it happened. Yeah. Yeah, Again the skeptic inside of me, like I say, it's you know, we've seen lights, we know this stuff. We were dreaming. I obviously I read into paranormal stuff, like I read all the stuff, so I knew about them, so I MND just kind of filled in gaps. But it does bother me. I mean honestly, even if it was a dream, that would still be really intense, awful dream to be having, Like that's yeah, not, that's not fun. And also psychics are really pro aliens being interdimensional beings, right, and so like this has always creeped me out. But they're like, oh, they pick a line in a family and they'll come and visit, Like maybe you should talk to the other males in your family about it and see if this has ever happened. Well that's that's creepy, I know. But they will come visit and like keep tabs on you, maybe abduct you. But they do this to family lines, according to psychics, I've heard of that. Yeah, I have heard of that. Ye, you might want to check in with, like any older male relatives you might have, if something weird happened to them, Just check, you know, you just want to like double check and make sure everything get you know, just no one off, just the one off, you know, being checked out by aliens. Yeah, generationally, Yeah, that is creepy AnyWho. But either way, I think aliens are super interesting topics. But the men in black, though, what they're hiding. I wonder why they don't want us to know what's going on. I wonder why they don't wear socks, right, or why they don't like hot cocoa? Yeah, like, what does that mean? Doesn't make any sense. They don't like cocoa and they don't wear socks. Who are these people? Who are how do you get that job? Yeah, but there's video of it. I don't know if you ever seen it, Michelle. I was just like, I wish we could zoom in on their shoes and see if they have socks on, cause it's like the type of thing where they could not have socks on. It wouldn't that be weird? Yeah, it says that they were identical. That's how it was curious, Like did that guy that's fake the picture. Say anything about that, that's I'll have to inquire. But I think I think that would have been mentioned if they looked exactly the same, like if they wow, were identical. But I mean, there were so many other weird things happening that clearly were more important to him then, Like they didn't drink my cocoa. What the hell's happening? This is so rude. I thought you were gonna say, like he was worried that they were to do something to him because he faked the thing and they were trying to make sure. I think like he felt like once he explained that it was fake, it was fine, you know what I mean, Like, once he like showed them what it was and that he knew it was fake. He was just being a shit pretty much because he was bored. So yeah, that's how his bigfoot land. Oh yeah, big butts. So that was that in Black Hope. You remember, is that the way the song goes. I don't know. That was forget Me Not I combined forget me Not and yeah, okay, Well that's the end of the episode anyway, So be sure to tune in next week for the next scary mystery surprise Michelle. Are you excited? Oh, I'm always excited for a surprise. Yeah, because I don't know what the surprise is gonna be so and neither do I. So if you want to surprise us with something, make sure you let us know what topic you want us to talk about, and we will talk about it on here. Send us an email it's in a description of the episode, or find us via social media or our website, Scary Mystery Surprise dot com. What are we going to talk about next week, Edwin? I don't know. I guess it'll be a surprise.
