Legends from Campeche and Chiapas and the 1979 Colombia Plane Incident

Hi, this is Christina and Carmen, and this is another episode of Spooky Tells, a podcast for all things a spooky true crime. Most of the time Hunted places things like that with the focus on Latin America. Yeah, I feel like I don't usually say all that. No, oh my bad, it's gonna be a mess today, like I already told Carmen. Yeah, we're talking about legends from Campeche and gap Us, and then I have a story from Colombia. We're doing the triple c's today. Wow and also fitting because we are first names start would see. So it's really like five Yeah. I don't know where I'm going with this. Yeah, yeah, Columbia, Carmen, Carmen. Okay, So before we get into our c lettered subjects, we do have a listener story and if you have a story that you want to send into the podcast, you can email at Spooky Taels at gmail dot com. You can DM it Noney of the socials, you can submit it on Discord, you can call it a Spooky hotline. There's a lot of ways to get us these stories. We love receiving them. Also, sorry if I sound sick, and yeah, are you ready to read this story. Yeah, I have a guento. I'm keeping the sea thing going. I love it. I love it. Guento from Karen with the k okay, I know the kin's yeah okay. Anyway, So Karen says, hello, my name is Karen. I just want to say that I love your podcast and it is so interesting. I have two spooky stories for you guys. The first story my mom told me that happened to my uncle who lives in Mexico, in Guerero. One day, my uncle was riding his horse. Everything was going normal until his horse started screaming and running so fast. Oh. Sorry, horses can scream. Yeah, they do, like a screeching noise something like you're not gonna do it right. No, I don't know what they sound, Okay, not really around horses, but I feel like I've seen it like in movies or something. I don't know. I don't really watch horse movies. Okay. Oh, like a like a screeching sound. Yeah, you're right, that's what I said. Yeah, yeah, no, I had to think about it. Yeah. Yeah. Like sometimes like people will say stuff, but you have to repeat it to yourself, like if you said it. Yeah. Yeah, I do that all the time. Don't worry about him. Twin my uncle was confused and looked behind him, and a black figure with bright red eyes was biting the horse's leg and chasing them. Oh my god, I was gonna say, is they had chattle negro. But the biding I don't know about that. It's not very characteristic of a chattle negro and also not very mindful. Yeah, no, not at all, biting horses like opposite. He then started praying Abamedia like twelve times and checked behind to see the figure was still there, but it disappeared afterwards. That's odd, extremely odd. So if this black figure with bright red eyes is ever chasing you and biding your horse, just pray twelve abamedias and you'll be good to go. Yeah, I very what's it called when you don't like fully read? I skimmed. I skimmed the story before saying it to you, and I was like, oh, that must be the chattelneggrol because I hadn't seen this biting thing, so I wonder if it must have not been very big, then I don't know. I don't like it, no, not at all. The second story was a story that my dad told me that happened to him when he was a teenager. For context, my dad grew up in Mexico City. He said that there was a lot of brucas walking down the street at night holding lamps. Very specific. Yeah, one night, when my dad was still a teenager, he was playing soccer with my uncle outside in the streets until they saw a woman holding a lamp and laughing very creepy in a creepy way. Oh. My dad and uncle were scared, so they ran back to my grandparents' house, and ever since they stopped playing outside at night. I would have stopped too, me too, even if it was just a normal, like a non like she was just holding her lamp, like because it was dark and she's trying to see. Yeah, and maybe she was thinking about a joke and she laughed a little bit. I don't know, poor lady. But it's still what a scared kid me. I still would have been like, oh my god, a bruca. She's just out there minding her business. And then they run and she's like, what's going on? It's something out here and it's her something now. Yes you. Yeah, okay, Well, thank you Karen for your stories. They were lovely in a creepy way. Yeah, they were. And so I'm wondering what that thing was. I don't like it, I said, I don't like it biting the horse thing, yeah, because like it doesn't sound like a like that would be my second thought would be ade. But they don't chase things, do they? Right? And why do they have like I mean, like they like to braid horses, like like a little braid, but they don't bite horses and hang off of them and have red eyes like that's not Maybe it's like an evil one there. I don't know. Just make you shut up now, Oh my god. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Okay, today we have some different versions of do you come to the and son? Yeah, that's how I would refer to him in and then also story Oh where you said chiapas and Kampitcha. Yeah, oh, I guess we just say we're continuing the Mexican States thing that we were doing a while ago, right, right. It doesn't really matter though, because we're not really doing in order. So you're right, there's like things sprinkled here and there in between. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess you're right. Okay, So legends say and so Breron was once a thief who used to rob people on the road, and eventually he he fucked around, he found out, and he was captured by people that he had done wrong to and they tortured him to death. So you know that was when he found out. Okay, And because no one claimed his body or prayed for his soul, his ghost now walks the streets at night, offering riches to his victims and scaring them to death. Okay. This is different than the version we had shared before that was from Gala. I don't remember it. Yeah, Guatemalan Virgin. He's like this almost the one the like figure like sure, has a hat, serenades young girls with the guitar. Oh that's right, I remember the guitar thing. So one version of the legend describes and Sombredon as a tall man who wears an elegant black suit with gold buttons and large black boots. That sounds like a chatto negro. Oh well, anyway, this is an elegant black suit. But if you want to see his face, you're out of luck because and som Bredona makes sure to cover his identity behind his large black hat, and he then walks the streets of San Fernando, Chiapas looking for his next victim. When he comes across a possible victim, he offers the victim of Riches an eternal life if they're able to stare at him in the eyes. But the moment that the victims try to do that, he paralyzes them and he makes sure they're not able to move or run away from him, and then he feeds off that person's energy until he sucks the soul out of his victim very de mentor yeah, And once he can be he drains the victim's energy. He then leaves them in a distant location, far away from where he initially encountered them. Some say that people even summon sore On themselves and they sell their soul to him in exchange for favors. But if they decide they no longer want to lose their soul, it said that these people kidnap children to sacrifice their soul instead. Wow. Yeah, so then that's why a lot of parents hide their kids when they think it sombred On will be coming around. And is there any indication of when that will be here? Is It's just like, how do they know? I don't know? I don't know. When they're supposed to hide their kids, hide their wife, they forget what the whole thing is. I don't know. Actually it's a good question. Well that's horrifying. Yeah. So like you said, hydro kids, hydro wife. Forgot the rest too. You don't need to say toga. If you were to remember it, all of it, maybe I know you could repeat it, but like I said, I need to repeat things if I said it and then like steal it like you said it. Yeah, yeah, Barry Michael scot coated a compliment. No, I'm you saying when people write parentheses derogatory. That was it right now to me? Okay. So in the other another version is Brenon is a lot nicer, so hopefully people run into this version of so. According to this version, he only goes after people who try to destroy nature or harm animals. And for those who don't know how to respect nature or are unlucky enough to come across L. Brenon, they'll usually come across him on his horse while he roams the streets of Tuila Gutierrez, Chiapas. So. The second version also says that Isambreron is a top figure with an elegant and black suit and large black boots whose face is hidden by his large hat. And like in the first version, he also paralyzes his victims, making it hard for them to run away. He's and unbearable shockwaves through the bodies of those who dare mess with mother nature. Ooh that sounds uncomfortable. Yeah to say the least. Oh and there's another version. Oh my gosh. Okay three. So this is a shorter version of the legend and mostly focuses on female victims. So according to this version, and Sore prefers to kidnap women. I feel like I remember you guys seen something like that in the Guatemala version, right, Yeah, this might be like the Guatemala version. We'll see when he tries to court a victim. El Smbredon will approach you women and seduce her by offering her beautiful jewelry, and once the woman agrees to go away with him, he takes her to a hitting cave where she will never be seen again. Ooh, yeah, that sounds like the one from Glatemala. He lures them with his guitar. Am like misremembering like another legend. No, there was a guitar Yeah, there was a guitar in the Guatemala. Yeah, he like serenades them and then won't let them sleep because he's you know, playing his guitar all night, and that they like look for women, young women to seduce. Out of all of those, I'd rather run into the second one because you know what, I don't mess with nature. I would be safe, so it would be a non issue. Yeah, you'll never catch me harmin an animal. So next we have the legend of La di Sigua. In Chiapas, there's a figure that roamsa street called Lat di Sigua. This figure resembles another popular Mexican legend known and we all know her Nayona a fave. Oh yes, our home girl, our queen, are maligned woman. So she's a pale, beautiful woman who has long brown hair and she usually hangs out by the Sabina River. La di Sigua or Sigua is known for and I love because we don't know how pronounce it. So Laticia is known for using her beauty and powers of seduction to reel in her victims. And it's said that she'll usually clap and call her next victims. That's so scary copping just scares me. So she'll she'll clap, I'm sorry, I didn't finish, so you need to sub this, Okay, I'm sorry. She'll clap and then call her next VI him's name, and they run to her, unable to control their desire for her. And just like the thought of the clapping just makes me think of the movie, you know, like when they're playing hide and seek and then she's like, ah, you know, I don't like it. Yeah movie, does it like The Conjuring or something like that. I think so? The a movie with kids and a haunted house. Yeah. So she only lures men who misbehave in society, so again we're safe. Oh good. There's a story of a man who fell victim to her, named Matteo. Matteo no so. He was a young man who didn't listen to his mother when he tried to warn him not to spend too much time in the river. So make sure you tell him. Yeah. It all started on one Sunday afternoon when Matteo went to the Sabinal River to shout before a celebration he was attending that evening. When he got to the river, Mattel took off its clothes and went into the water, and he soon began to hear shrieks that grew louder, and he tried to play it off, you know how one does, like that was nature. Yeah, like all those streaks are nothing. Yeah, I was gonna say that was just a bird, no worries. But he couldn't help it, and he went to go look for what that noise was coming from. Where it was coming from, And as he began to step out of the water, a beautiful woman with pale skin appeared before him. She was so radiant and gorgeous. I sound like a means going to say gorgeous. I don't know. That's oh my god. And he started fine until you pointed it out. Sorry, So she was so rating and gorgeous. Yeah, and now I can I can only hear sarcasm when you say the word gorgeous. Okay, So she was gorgeous. It sounds like you know, man, she was so gorgeous that her beauty stopped him in his tracks and he couldn't con throw his body anymore. Instead, he staid paralyzed looking at the woman. She smiled and began to walk into the woods, and then he was intoxicated by her intrigued intoxicated, and yeah, he followed her into the woods because he didn't listen to his mom. So this woman is swayed through the forest effortlessly, while Matteo had a tumultuous time getting through the branches, so he was not like effortless. She's like, she's like walking through the branches. And he said, she's doing that, like like branch at the branch had in his face and he's like, she's just walking like through them, and it's because she's a ghost. But he didn't know that she was actually not even walking. She was floating. She was kind of like floating. Her feet were not touching the ground feet actually effortless. It meant that she actually wasn't moving her legs at all. No, no, she was gliding and floating. And so then the woman turned and stared at Matel and with the sudden leap, she jumped back into the water and he was unable to control himself, so he ran after her and dove into the water, and he followed her again. He would get close to her and she would pull away and swim further faster, luring him away even further. Yeah, terrible. So the woman seemed to have been enjoying this because she let her at laugh next. I mean, it sounds a little fun flirting with the strange woman in the forest, chasing her. Yeah, just as he got closer, she gets further away. I don't know, I mean it sounds like a fun time for her. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's having a good time. So then she I guess mydell caught up to her, and she filled his hat with water and then like dropped it on his head. And then she laughed and vanished into thin air. And he was left days and confused, but so desperate to find her that he went looking for her again. And I guess he didn't think about how she just vanished into thin air. It didn't matter. Yeah, he realized he would never be able to find her again, so he went home, but he was never the same again. Of course, his mother found him a few days later, talking to himself and begging on the streets, looking for the women who showed him the intoxicating smile he couldn't forget about. Oh oh, I know, Oh. That's not good. A lot of locals do still avoid spending too much time in Sabina river. But a lot of people just believe this story was made up by adults to keep children from playing in the water too long, which most of these stories are, you know, to keep people away from, like I don't know, the river dangerous places to. Not go out at night. Yeah, I was gonna come home at a reasonable hour, Like, because if you're not home by this time, is going to get you. Yeah. Yeah, not down to strange men, down. To the devil. Listen to your parents, you know, don't sneak out of your house go dance with the devil. Yeah, okay. So this is the story of Labruca, the del Moro from Campechen, where the locals believe that a long time ago, an evil sorcerer who did GUIs himself as a human was devouring families whole. Oh so, over the years, locals have told the story of how whole families who lived in Moros would disappear overnight. Residents at first tried to rationalize the situation and told themselves that perhaps the families had just moved without saying goodbye. But as time went on, the families continued to disappear, so the residents were convinced that some sort of evil had overtaken their community, and they hired a sorcerer known for only working with good magic to figure out what's happening to the families. After a few days of investigating, the sorcerer came back and told the residents that there was an evil figure visiting the town every night and eating the families. That's a lot of food. I guess he's never fun. Yeah. The sorcerer warned residents that this being is known as La vica Isha wu oh that sounds scary, and so this being disguised themselves as a human so he won't be caught, and the only way to catch him is when he's devouring a human and the act. So since that's the only time he sheds his skin, yeah, sheds his skin. Ew. Yeah, that's gross. It reminds me of the book The Vampires Layer book Club whatever the hell is called. You know, I'm talking about Guy to Slain. Oh, yeah, the Southern Southern Woman's Guide to in that book the Vampire when he's feeding. It's like so discussing and I listened to it. The Southern Book clubs Guy to Slay Vampires. We really very close. Yeah, in that book The Vampire like the way it feeds. It's so discussing, like it's it seems like something comes out of it sort of and like impels I guess the victim. And so the only way like he looks normal otherwise and just that thing that comes out of him when he's feeding. Wow. Yeah, very gross. So, with the hope of stopping the monster, the townspeople came up with the plan to capture or kill it, and so a few days later, while the plan was still being worked out, a very humble, elderly woman knocked on the door of one of the townspeople's homes, and the old lady, who looked freh and sad, asked the family who lived in the home if she could stay with them for the nights, and she was on the road and then they went missing, and that was the last thing they ever did, and they were never seen again. And so they under stayed because you know, it's just a little wikita, Yeah, like harmless. You know, what is she gonna do? Yeah, but them the sorcerer was there. He was around and he oh he was. Inside the house. Yeah, he was around. I don't know. He felt that something was off and he began to notice that overnight, the family members started complaining of stomach aches, and one by one they went to the bathroom, which was you know, like an outhouse, and then they never returned. So he's like, hmm, how big is this family? That like one by one like maybe there's like ten of them. Yeah, And so like by number four, he's like, okay, what's going on? Yeah, there was sylph of another five labsent or not six. I can't do it. So the Sorcerer then went to the old ladies room to check if she knew something, because he's like, something's up. But when he opened the door, he only found the human skin that she had a shed. So then the Sorcerer quickly took the demonic monster's skin and covered it in salt. Salt secures everything. That's why I love it in my food now. Yeah, And honestly, more salt is always the answer, except when it's too salty. No, It's so funny because like I'll go eat somewhere and like people complain, oh this is so salty, and I'm like, hmm, this is a perfect amount of salt. Okay. So anyway, he covered it in salt, and then he took vines paryed and threw holy water on them and cast it a spell on the vines. And and after he was done, he rushed into the bathroom where he saw the monster with its mouth open wide eating one of the family members. Gross. Oh my god. So then the sorcerer quickly took the vines he had cast it a spell on and wrapped them around the monster. And the vines turned into chains. And they caught the monster. Okay, and it was the old lady. Yeah. They moved it into the caves of Seba Beach, wearing drowned. Before it died, the monster yelled that it would return to sec revenge against the town. So the local people. And the fishermen warned to stay away from the cave because it said that those who go near the cave never come back. Oh no, and they're devoured by l I. Wonder what it looked like when it shed its like human skin, old lady's skin. I don't know, we'll never know. Yeah, we have one more. Wow, every time I thought you were done, there's one more. Yeah, this is a lot. This is like. I love cave stories. So one day in neighborhood of a San Roman Campecha. Multiple young ladies began to disappear at the same time. A man. At the same time, a handsome man that nobody knew where he was from, moved into the neighborhood. Red flag, young ladies disappearing, and a new young man like, come on, yeah, so he was a cutie. So he got popular among the ladies and people in high places, high society, if you will. Also, around this time, people started hearing a wolf like howl almost every time. And every time I heard this howl, a woman would disappeared the next day. I'm like clockwork. So then the people were like, this is like a pattern, Like we're like clocking this now like clockwork, right, So they they got together one night and they decided to look for where this sound was coming from and see if had anything to do with the disappearances. So then they approached a cave where the howl was coming from, and they came across a man with the head of a bull. Oh not what I was expecting. I was expecting a wolf. I was within a were wolf. Yeah. So they were like, what the fuck? And they ran back home and they found out the next day that another woman had gone missing. So then they're like, what should we do about this bull wolf combo situation. They realized that all the missing women had one thing in common besides being young women, was that they had come and caught. They had two things in common. They came into contact with this stranger. Okay, the kutka there it is sorry, Okay. So then they followed the stranger around and then they realized that he lives in the cave, and so they're like, this is it. This is him, this is it. This is the bull face wolf. So then yeah, that they realized they need to stop him or more women would go missing. It said that the creature would ask the women to meet him at the cave at night, and he would propose to them before he killed them. Oh that's a little too fast where they say, yes, I don't know because he killed them. You're right, You're right, I don't ever know. Another thing will never know. And then another version of the story says that the creature would ask women to meet him at the cave at midnight. While they were waiting for him, instead this bull thing would come out and attack them. Wow, so he would never show up, Well, he would show well, yeah, but his other outfit the bull. Yeah wow, okay. So then the people were mad about this creature, and you know, a mob formed pitchforks and all love it. Yeah, And so they found him in the cave. They attacked him and yanked his heart out. Oh okay. And so then it said that yanking the creature's heart caused a major storm flooded the cave. And though the bull has been dead for years, locals say that they still hear his howls at night. Wow to bull's howl or only this bull? I feel like they don't. Yeah, okay, that's what I thought. If mysterious young man, no matter how hot he was, I don't think I would meet him at a cave at mid night. The lesson here is, do not meet any man anywhere I'm in night, especially not in a cave in the wild. No. Yeah, Or don't be a man that turns into a bowl. Well, that's just impossible. We can't tell the man what to do, right, especially now they turn into bulls. Yeah, yeah, we have to look inward. Okay, I guess maybe because of the time it's there would be no other meeting place, And so meeting at a cave was perfectly fine, I don't know, true, we don't know. Yeah, plus he lived there, so yeah, that's his house. Actually it's not a cave. I don't know. Okay, on that. No, let's take a quick air break and then we'll be back with my half. Welcome to our Hunted break. We just want to give a shout out to our newest patron members Robin Avery and Lissandro thank you so much for becoming a super nommez Espucgie, and a shout out to the rest of our amazing members Karen Wesley and Leslie, Isaiah, Vanessa, Jessica, Carla, alec Ils, John, Carina, Mandril, mar Hilary, Claudia Archer, Marlene Patricia, Marilyn Lupe, Jorge, Maria, Anastasia, Linda, Juan, Clarissa, Mickey, La Madrina del Brianna Herzon, Alejandro Laney, Something Rather Than Nothing podcasts, Chata Christina, A Nightmare on Fear Street, Mari Desre, Dianna Sonya, Dilana, Isaac Natcho, Mama Nellie, Alex Nasriel, mal Ashes, An, Janie, Michelle Movesto, Perla, Jessenia, Martin, EDI's Ghostrain and Matt Town Charity. Thank you, so much for your support. It means the world to us. And if you want to join the Patro you'll get exclusive bonus episodes. You also get exclusive stickers. If you join the Highest here, you'll get an exclusive keychain. But don't worry. If you cannot support us monetarily, then you are not missing out on anything. The best support that you can give us is just listening to our episodes here, So thank you for doing that. All right, we're back. We're right from our break and I feel like I sound more congested as time goes on, So I'm sorry if I sound worse. Yeah, that's true. By Sudafed is wearing off. So yeah, you do sound worse. I sound like Chucky from Progress, Yeah you do. My bad. All right, Well, I am telling you about a crime case from Columbia because we're keeping it at sea today in the sense that it happened in Columbia. So playing trimes, hijackings, crashes, they've always fascinated me because we fly a lot, right, and it's apparently one of the most like safest things to do when the safest mod modes of transportation. I've heard that before. Driving is definitely worse. Yeah, there was an MIT Massachusetts Institute of Technology. There was a study that went from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two that said the chances of being as a passenger of being killed on a flight anywhere in the world is one in thirteen point four million. Oh wow, yeah, which is super safe. And years ago, between nineteen sixty eight and nineteen seventy seven, it was one in three hundred and fifty thousand. So still not like a lot, but more, you know, more than now. I mean, despite all the things with Boeing that were happening in a few months ago, it's still one of the safest modes of transportation. There's no research on if you're not on the plane but you die because of a plane, there's no research on that. If you're not on the plane but you die from the plane from a plane, yeah, kilty ash like where you're at or something, but you're not a plane. Yeah, okay, that's even more rare. But unfortunately for the residents of the Marco fidel Is neighborhood in Bota, Colombia, Oh wow, it was. And I only laughed because I'm like, how safe it is? Yeah, because it was so ridiculous how I got rived here, and I'm so sorry for that. Yeah, but it became their reality. Oh my god. You can't even prevent that, I guess besides not. Living near I don't know. I don't even know. I'll just let you get into it. Yeah, okay. So, and also, it happened on August twenty second, nineteen seventy nine. What oh this what I'm talking about happened on August twenty second, nineteen seventy nine. Okay, sorry, I just heard August twenty second, and I got distracted because you know, it's a special day, it's our birthday. Yeah, but this tragedy happened on our birthday. Oh no, okay. So olive Up was woken up when her son Pablo brought her some chocolates a share with his seven year old sister Janith. But they think to eat the chocolates. Oh no, I started to stop. I need to stop starting starting like stories like this because then it's like, oh, that's so sweet, and then it's like but then yeah, and then this thing ruined that starts for me. Yeah, I apologize. So they didn't get to eat the chocolates because then they heard very loud noises outside, and they all went to go see what was going on. The family opened their door and it was abnormally hazy, gray and smoky outside, and so once they were like, what's going on, because there's something weird out here, their house shook and there was a loud explosion followed by screams, and so they ran away from their house. They didn't look back, and so they ran and they didn't even notice that their house had been destroyed because the plane crashed into it. Olivia thought the world was ending, and that's because death had fallen from the sky. The Pulido family was lucky to be alive because the plane missed them. Another three in the neighborhood were killed on the tragic day. Seventeen years old Oscar Armando Romero Acosta was in the shower on the morning of the twenty second. He was preparing to head to his classes at the Instituto Electronico the IDIOMSS, the school he was attending in Bogota, and so as he was showering, a propeller from the plane crashed into his bathroom and it hit him in the process. He died instantly, and then sixty five year old Mola heard sounds that morning, and she went to open her door to see what was going on. The second she opened her door, the wind from the plane's propeller through her so far and hard that she died the moment she hit the ground. Oh my god. And then there was a third victim that I was unable to find any information on unfortunately, like not a name or how they died, just that there was another person that died, and I thought it was maybe the pilot, but it was not. That he's the fourth person that died on that day. So after the fires were put out, investigators were able to assess the damages. There were four dead, including the pilot, six injured with grave injuries required hospitalization, and then fourteen families whose homes were destroyed. One of the injured that survived the crash. Her name was Isabel Bueno. She was renting a room from the Pulido family and she was still inside when they ran out of the house. The plane knocked down the wall in her room and it had passed right above her, and she, oh my god, safe, yeah, wild. And there were destroyed houses, destroyed power lines, fires, just houses in rubble and police, firefighters, ambulances and units from the Colombian Civil Defense were on site. The total cost of the accident was eighty two billion dollars. And I'm sorry. I feel like I sound more adjusted as I continued talking to them. I'm so sorry. So it took some tie, but first us brothers were able to uncover the body of the man piloting the plane that had crashed down on the Marco Fi del Sus neighborhood. He was twenty three year old Armando no Haramillo, and not much is known about his early life and if other than that he was born on May nineth, nineteen fifty seven. After news of the crash broke, there was a lot of rumors that started, things like, oh, he was an alcoholic, he had anger issues, he was mentally unstable, and his parents have got on the record and said none of that was true. He wasn't an alcoholic, he wasn't mentally unstable. But his schoolmates and co workers disagree. It seems that most of the people that describe him say that he had very strong emotions. Interesting, so his schoolmates and co workers all describe him as someone with anger issues that just like anything would set him off. He'd be like normal one moment and then just insanely angry the next moment, and that his anger got him in trouble a lot. He joined the Colombian Air Force at some point, and he had problems there too. There was one incident where he screamed at a pilot that, oh, you think you're special because you drive one of these as in a plane, and he was like, I can. Do that, too. Interesting, but that's a very skilled thing. You can't just hop on it. And you know. But he was a pilot, wasn't he. No, No, he was a mechanic. Oh, oh, he was a He thought he was a pilot that day, but no, he was not a pilot. Oh no, this whole time with that was a pilot. No, I haven't said what he worked at. He worked as a mechanic. Oh, okay, in the Colombian Air Force. He was a Oh plane mechanic. I heard air force, heard plane. I assumed, yeah, And honestly, because he was piloting the plane on that day, that a crash, you could. I think it's a safe assumption except for the facts. He crashed, So I don't know anyway. And I heard a reenactment of him insulting the pilot like, oh, I can drive one of these two in Spanish and it evolved. But you know, like in other countries, they say it all together, not just separate like equas, Like I can't even say equaluda how. Like without the like equauta. Oh oh, well you didn't. We explained it. It didn't make sense one how did I thought it made sense? So they say it without the there, Okay, I guess I could have said that. You said, they say it all together, and I'm like, maybe it's all together. Okay, just go on, okay, okay, okay, my bad, all right. One Air Force member described him as having personality issues and anchor issues, and there's got to make trouble a lot obviously, because you know, not only was he having these explosive like arguments, but also he just disregarded rules. It's like he had a problem with authority on rules. He refused to get a haircut that followed Air Force regulations like you you gotta like come on, yeah, and then he would go a wall. Once in a while, he would just go missing, like how long was he in the Air Force for? Like I'm surprising to kick his ass out? Yeah, I couldn't find an exact time, but it seems like more than a year, but less than three years. Oh okay, so not a long time, but honestly a little too long. Yeah for the how like the amount of issues that were how people described him. Yeah, so he had been gone for four days and then this is when the Air Force was just very tired of him, and some sources that I read said he was kicked out at this point. Others sort of say that the Air Force didn't kick him out, but they just moved him to work at a civilian airport so that he wouldn't be their problem, although I don't know how that works, because like he would technically still be their problem, he just wouldn't they wouldn't see him as often, but like he still would be in the air or no, no, no, he's not parently sorry, he's only air Force. He's still Oh yeah, So he was sent to work for Stina, which is a government owned airline at the Bogota Airport. But it wasn't any better there. He was still getting in frequent arguments with his coworkers and he was the only Air Force member there and apparently I don't know if they still do it, but at the time, all Air Force members received the revolver as part of their uniform, and so he had a military issued revolver with him. He had weapons, yeah, yeah, and he loved to show his coworkers that he had it. He'd like flash all the time, like but you say to me and just like pull his like, you know, shirt up to show that it was there. So you know, I mean, like the last thing you want is for someone with the temple thing like that. Yeah, to have a revolver at all times. So there was one incident that was too much. It was too far. On December fifteenth, nineteen seventy eight, two airline mechanics went to fuel an airplane. This made him mad because he wanted to do it. He was arguing that he had gotten there first and he was supposed to fuel the plane and it's like, come on, there's going to be another one to fuel. Stop, Like this is. Your job, right, yeah, you could just do the next one, right right, But no, So he was mad at this and he pulled out his revolver and he was aiming at them, and so this was considered the last straw. He was suspended after this incident, and then he was officially fired kicked out of the Air Force on January tenth, nineteen seventy nine, and some of his command believed that him being kicked out out is what led him to do what he did in August. But nobody really knows his motives because this was seven months after. Yeah, he was fired, and seven months later the plane crash happened, so others believed that it wasn't He didn't do it as revenge for being having been fired. He wanted to prove that he could fly a plane too, But so why seven months like later? That's it doesn't make sense. Yeah, it sounds like he like holds scrunches or something. That's true, And so many point to the argument he had with the pilot when he was in the Air Force that he argued that he could fly a plane too, that the pilot wasn't special, and that's why he did it. Once authorities learn who he was, they reported it was the reason he did it, The reason he stole the aircraft. The plane was to crash into his parents' house because he hated them. But also this also doesn't make sense because he was financially dependent on them. Well, he could still hate them and be financially dependent on them, that's true. Maybe maybe they had a will or inheritance, I would go to him. I'm just speculating here, that's true. So yeah, it could be. In the end, nobody really knows why he did it. There's no known reason, nothing was written down. I mean, maybe you were just an angry person who wanted to harm people, right, So what happened on that day, On the early morning of August twenty second, nineteen seventy nine, at five thirty am, at Mando snuck into a hangar at the El Dorado International Airport in Bogata. And like, again, we can't know if his plan from the beginning was to crash the airplane or if he was even intending to seal the airplane. Maybe he was just there because he wanted to go out of no fight. Like, we don't know why he was there. But when he got inside, he saw that the hope is empty, and so he went straight to an airplane like there's no security, damn. So he got inside a Hawker Siddley HS seven four eight someplane which happened to be on the runway already. The plane was missing half an engine because it was being worked on and still he didn't matter to him. He turned it on and then he began to operate. When an air traffic controller spotted the moving plane, the air traffic controller called for firefighters to block the plane, but by the time they had arrived it was too late. Armando had already lifted off the runway, and soon after takeoff, Adam on the contacted air traffic control and stated, I am third warrant Officer Nieto of the Air Force. Don't try anything. This plane is hijacked and I am armed. Apparently that part was true. He was armed. Somehow he kept his military issued revolver. I don't know. Oh wow, I don't know. But he wasn't a chief warrant officer. This is like a very like that's what pilots are, they are chief warrant officers. If it's similar to army rankings, because the US Army, that's who pilots, the helicopters, and chief warrant officers and mechanics are lower like when you're barely started out, you're a lower enlisted person, so like E one, three, four, you know, and then an enlisted officer is an E five, so like a sergeant junior officer whatever you want to call it, a noncommissioned officer, Like those are all the same thing, really, So there was some reports that said he was a non commissioned officer, but I don't know someone that has that many problems. I just don't see it happening. I feel like he has a private at most, like the lowest rank possible, because how can you be It takes work to become a sergeant, like, you can't just be a non commissioned officer. So I don't think he was a I don't think so. And he certainly was not a chief warrant officer like he announced, and so apparently like again, what was reported is that his plan was to crash his parents' neighborhood, but he was not a good pilot, despite yelling at the pilot that he was right, I mean, he had no training in this. Yeah, yeah, there was no way he couldn't. And the play was missing an engine and it was low on fuel, so he had no idea what he was doing. He went north of his target, his parents' neighborhood, neighborhood house whatever, and so he turned around to try and head to his parents. But when he did this, he had to like avoid this giant building, the International Center in Bogata, and he also had to avoid a giant hill in his like maneuver. To avoid these two big obstacles in his way, he like had located his parents neighborhood, which was San Jorge. But then, you know, in the process of trying to avoid these giant hills, he just lost control of the plane. He started, you know, going down, crashing into telephone poles, and he crashed into the neighborhood of Marco Fidel and the families of the Marco Fida neighborhood. They sued Satna, the company that he worked for, for damages. And the reason is because they said, if ad Mando had Amedia was able to steal a plane, it's. Because they had no security. Yeah, and they're right, and they were right to do that. Yeah, not to mention it, like they should have also sued the air Force because what do you mean this guy was still working and why did he still have his revolver? Why did he have so many chances before he was fired? Yeah, and then again the way he was able to sneak back into the the airport and the hangar and just take it like nobody was watching. So in the end, Satna paid just a fourth of the cost to rebuild one house, the Pullula family home. That doesn't sound like enough, No, nowhere near enough, because. They're to rebuild their house the Buldo family home that was five hundred thousand dollars and Satina ended up paying only one hundred and twenty thousand. Wow, And let me remind you that the total cost of this whole accident was like eighty five million or some shit like that. Oh wow, yeah, it was a lot. And so most of the homes were rebuilt over time, but even today the neighborhood is not as populated as it once was, like before the crash. And yeah, that is I yeah, that was the what do they call it the something incident to see nick name of when you look for the case, like the plane type and an incident. Oh of course I did write it down, but yeah, you know, there's no need, I feel like to find reasons. Right, this was an angry man. Who felt entitled two. More than what he had and he was angry about it, so he took it out on people. Yeah that's a good point, because yeah, people were like, what was the reason. But yeah, like you're saying he wasn't a person and he just yeah, he hurt people and maybe his aim with his parents, but he didn't care who we heard in the process anyway, because if he had a care, there was other ways. Yeah, that would have not evolved taken a plane and so yeah, but yeah, I guess we have reached the end of the episode. Do you have any speaky recommendations? I do, oh, share, share, pull up my notes. I wrote notes and forget them. I was gonna say, oh, you're write notes by spakir recommendations not usually, but because we're like recording like a little bit ahead, I feel like I would forget them, you know what I mean. That's a good point. Yeah, so. One of my speaker recommendations. I have a few, I guess, yes. Anyway, I thought I had talked about this already, but I guess I didn't. I listened to The Only Good Indians by Steven Graham Jones five out of five, very spooky, and that's all. I didn't write anything else about that. And then I also listened to What Grows in the Dark by Jack Evans, and at that one, I feel like only three out of five for me. Let me read the summary of The Only Good Indians. Okay, so it says from New York Times best selling author Stephen Graham Jones, comes a novel that is equal parts psychological horror and cutting social commentary on identity, politics and the American Indian experience. Fans of Jordan Peele and Tommy Orange will love this story as it follows it like god. Fans of both here, Yes, I love both both of them. So the story follows the lives of four American Indian men and their families, all haunted by a disturbing, deadly event that took place in their youth. Years later, they find themselves tracked by an entity bent on revenge, totally helpless as culture and traditions they left behind catch up to them in a violent and vengeful way. So it took a revenge story. It was wild, and I love listening to it because the narrator. I feel like I also would like reading it, but listening to it, the narrator was so good. Okay, I have to listen to it. Yeah, and so yeah, that was five out of five for me, and then the other one. So I listened to what grows in the dark, and I feel like the story when I read the summary, like caught my attention. So it says in this chilling contemporary horror novel, a phony spiritualist returns to her hometown to assist in an investigation that was hard to read all want to go Yeah. That yearly mirrors her sister's death, forcing her to confront the secrets she's been running from. Sixteen years ago, Bridget Wheeland's older sister, Emma, walked into the woods in their small hometown of Ellis Creek. She never walked out. People said she was troubled, and the month's leading up to her death, she was convinced there was a monster in those trees. Marked by the tragedy, Bridget left town and never looked back. Now, Bridget travels around the country investigating paranormal activity and faking the results with her cameraman Ian, But when she receives a call from Ellis Creek, she's thrust into the middle of a search for to missing teenagers. As Bridgite and Ian are drawn further into the case, the parallels to Emma's death become undeniable, and worst, Bridget can't explain what's happening to her trees, appearing in her bedroom in the middle of the night, something with a very familiar laugh watching her out in the darkness, and Emma's voice on her phone reminding Bridget to finish what they started. More and more it looks like Emma was right. There is a monster in Ella's creek and it's waited a long time for Bridget to come home. So it sounds good and it was fine. Yeah, I was gonna say that sounds good. It was fine, but I feel like there was like plot holes. I didn't really understand why this monster wanted Virgin in the first place. There's just like plot holes. I just couldn't really get into it. And I looked at the reviews and other people felt the same as me. It wasn't just me. Okay, okay, it wasn't bad, but yeah, I mean there's like too much. I didn't understand the why behind it. I mean, you didn't do it for me, okay, okay. And then I read Bad Cree amazing five out of five. Oh, I need to read that. I have the book and I just haven't read it yet. Yeah. I was with you and you bought it. That's right. We were together at powells yes. Yeah, so this one in this gripping horror lace debut to pronounce that I don't know okay. A young Cree woman's dreams lead her on a perilous, perilous I don't know pruceat Worthy, Yeah, yes, journey of self discovery that ultimately forces her to confront the toll of a legacy of violence on her family, her community, and the land they call home. When Mackenzie wakes up with a severed crow's head in her hands, she panics. Only moments earlier, she had been fedding off masses of birds in a snow covered forest in bed, which she blinks ahead disappears. Night after night, Mackenzie's dreams returned her to a memory from before her sister Sabrina's untimely death, a weekend at the family's lake front campsite, long obscured by a fog of guilt, but when the waking world starts closing in to a murder of crows stalks her every move around the city. She makes up from a dream of drowning throwing up water, and gets thrawny textages from someone claiming to be Sabrina. Mackenzie knows and this is more than she can handle alone. Traveling north to her rural hometown in Alberta, she finds her family still seeped in the same grief that she ran away to Vancouver to escape. They welcome her back, but their shiky reunion only seems to intensify her dreams and make them more dangerous. What really happened that night at the lake and what did it have to do with Sabrina's death? Only a bad creed would put their family at risk. But what if whatever has been calling Mackenzie home was already inside five and five amazing? Whoa, Okay, that sounds really good. Oh yes, I need to read it. Yeah, So there was just there was like a lot. Also, I love reading books about like family because you know how Mexicans are. They're my favorite and we're all about family, you know, those Mexicans, And so yeah, it was like super relatable because of that. And like when she comes home and she sees all her cousins and everyone starts a bump her and she has zero space. I was like, yes, I love it, I love it. I love it. There was just so much that was relatable, Like her grandma dies a slow death, of I don't remember what the illness is. If it was cancer, I think it was. But you know, that reminded me of our amulito whose health was just declining. Yeah, and then everyone was taking care of them. Yeah. And when she's talking about her grandma dying slowly, there is like a quote that said death happened in a million ways in the lead up to actual death, and I was like, that is so true. And then they give examples of like the grandma not being able to hold her playing cards anymore. So then the grandma and the auntie stopped gathering to play the cards every night, and like more things like that, like than when she couldn't stand for long, then she couldn't bake for the family anymore, and so like, you know, she loses herself. These little things that made you who Yes, okay, that's what I'm gonna say. These little things that make you who you are, you start losing them, Yeah, then you know, they start I don't know, it gets harder to find. I guess the will to continue. It's because it's like why. Oh. And the part that got me that made me cry is then when the grandma couldn't breathe on her own anymore, and so the machines like were helping her whatever breathe in the hospital. Then they lost the sound of her laugh filling in the room, and I was like. Gold and that's so true. It's like our Alito. And he, Yeah, when he couldn't ride his bike anymore, that was a huge like blow to limb in his spirit. He was, you know, this tall strong man and he could see himself getting weaker and weaker than he couldn't. He like his bike, He wrote it everywhere. And then yeah, at one point he couldn't even get on the bus. They didn't let him get on the bus anymore because the risk of falling was too much. And that also was like another blow. And then like this is exactly Oh that's yeah. Wow. So I feel like it's probably been my favorite book that I've read so far. It's here because not only does it have like that rich family environment, there's also a lot of like grief drama I guess between the family, but the spookiness is top notch also. Wow. Okay, so it has the dramas family relationships and the spookiness. Okay, I love it. I'm for sure going to read it at some point, and a pair of twins, A pair of twins. Why don't you say that's Soba? Sobrina is a twin. Yeah, not with her, but her other sister. Okay, wow, okay, wow, I gotta read this. Oh and and and a lot of the family has like this thing with their dreams, like they they each have different Now I don't want to spoil it something like I'm saying. So dreams. Dreams are like major in the book too. And if there's one thing I love hearing about too, it's people's dreams. Yeah. I mean we had a whole episode on it, premonitions and dreams, like, yeah, for sure, they're a thing. And sometimes you even if you don't you know, you don't have that kind of thing. I think your dreams no matter who you are, and if you like me and you don't have like this gift that our mom has, right, But I feel like there's some dreams that you have that you're like something is telling me something for sure, this dream like when you have the recurring dream of your teeth falling, Like okay, I'm stressed, Like why am I so stressed? What's happening? So? Yeah, I love that. I love that yeah, and I have more, but i'll say it for next TIMECENTI me, okay, okay, well really quick, I do have a speaky recommendation. I have not started being atta because I had a library income, Like now you tell me that it's yeah, I do know how you feel. And it's an incidence around the house is the name of the book. And I forgot the author already, but I mean, if you just look up incidents around the house, you'll find the book. I'm not done with it yet, I'm like halfway done. It's a short book. It's not very long, and I got to say, within like the first two pages of the book, I was already like, WHOA, what's going on? This is so creepy really, And I mean it's not really a spoiler because if you look at the book description you'll find out that you know, it's a little girl who sees like an entity in her house, and this entity she calls. Her other mommy. It's already horrifying what that book? No, And then before she used to see her a little bit, but now it's becoming more intense and she has started to ask her can I go in your heart? Can I go in your heart just like again and again. Oh my god, that's creepy. It was very creepy. So I do recommend it. And I'm not even done with it yet, so I don't know. I I always look at spoilery. Okay, I'm reading a book, so I did no me either, So I did see. I came across a few spoilers of people being disappointed in the ending. And I don't know because I'm not there yet. So if you've read the book and you did feel that, I don't know why yet, but I will when I'm done, which but next time we record, I'll be done and I'll actually start Piniata soon, which is our current book club read Pata by le Podo Gout. I hope to start it soon too. I haven't started it either. Yeah, okay, And I guess this brings us to the end of the episode. Don't because we're sending us your speaking stories if you want to share them, topic, suggestion, you know anything. We are open to only good feedback, and other than that, I don't know. Don't hang out at the river for too long, or or don't follow a beautiful woman into a. Cave or whatever, or a bit can into the cave. No following anyone into a cave, no matter how cute they are, no matter how hot they are, don't do it. It's not worth it. They might share their skin later, Okay, I'll thought you with them, all right, all right, stay speaking, We'll catch real next time. 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