Legends From Guanajuato, Mexico

Hi, this is Christina and Carmen, or or should we say I forgot their fucking names? Or Selma and Patty, but like the Simpsons, Yeah, but the wrong version, because let me tell you the ordeal first, or the wrong version. Like your hair. Yeah, first, I suggest that we paint ourselves yellow, but Carmen didn't want to do that, and. Then you don't need not have yellow eyes shadow. Well, yeah, then I forgot to go get yellow eyeshadow, and oh god, allly smell it is the hair spray. If anyone is not watching on video, we did spray our hair. Christina has a wrong shade of blue because she had a whole depocle. And then even then I ran out and part of it is not. Anyway. Yeah, we are Selma and Patty. We made little cigarettes. Yeah, we're gonna have to explain in the caption about your hair who we are. Oh, I don't think it's going to be clear. You don't think people will know. I don't think. So I'm gonna talk like this the whole time. Okay, me too. Then I feel like it's obvious, but maybe not. I think because my hair is only half blue. I think if your hair was the same shit as mine, the wrong shade. Yeah, yeah, I think I ruined it. I did it was me anyway, Yes, this is a Spooky Tells, the podcast for all things spooky, true crime, miss Legends a hundred places in Latin America today legends from Durango. But before that, a listener story. And if you have a story you want to send to us, you can email a Spooky at email dot com. You can submit it on Discord, you can call the Pooky Hotline. You can DM me on Instagram, which is what this listener did, but they wanted to stay anonymous. Also, before you read this listener story, I had to tell you, do you listen to Moras Malitas? Yes? Right? M hm okay for listeners that don't listen to Moras Malita's they are in Spanish, they're in Mexico. I want to see see that a Mexico, But I could be wrong. Anyway, They it's the same thing. They share scary stories, but they have segments. One segment they do is arte de terre. But the other segment they do is where listeners sent them scary dreams. Basically, I think they call it sen and so this is akin to that. This listener's story, because sometimes dreams are a peranormal experience. Yeah, and that felt very much like this when this listener was like, I need to tell you this dream I had, and I was like, please do. And then after they told me, I was like, can I please read this because this was crazy, this was insane. And so here we are. I'm glad they let you. Yes, yes, thank you so much. You know who you are. Are you ready to read a Kerman? I am? Okay, okay, here goes. My grandpa lived in Tanada when I was little, before he moved back to California, and in the dream I dreamt we were visiting him back there. I remember that we were going to grab some fish for dinner, because in my dream he was already well into his eighties and I was still a little kid. In reality, he died when I was eleven and he was ninety. He was an avid deep sea and open water fisherman, and he was telling me a story about how there used to be mermaids in the Bay and in the Gulf of California when. He was a kid. We went to a busto that was selling mangos and he bought me one. Then we went to the fish market on the pier. When the bustos had a huge crowd in. My grandpa, in typical fashion, did not care and pushed his way through. I was dragging a little behind, saving my mango, and he told me to look on a hook butchered and cleaned out like a fish. Was a mermaid. I don't know if i'd call it a female, but whatever. She had a roughly human shape, like the way that chimps or gorillas resemble humans. You know. Yes, her body was as light gray on the front and from her elbows up she looked like a combination of a yellow tail and a lorado. She had green hair that looked almost black, with really long arms and creepy long fingers. The fisherman that caught her was carving her up and offered me a piece, But as I was putting it up to my mouth and my grandpa knocked it out of my head and I woke up. What the Wasn't that wild? That's kind of crazy? What if mermaids actually do look like that? Right? Like, what if at some point this listener did see a mermaid and they're remembering it. Yes, the creepiest part is, like, what if he did eat this mermaid in the dream, what would have happened? M Yeah, I don't know. It's like when you know, when you're like falling say something. Who's to say exactly? We don't know, but you know when you're falling in dream and you wake up before you reach the bottom, and they say that if you actually reach the bottom, you die. Yeah, I've heard that, like if you. Hit you dying irl? What if when he ate this mermaid you get food poisoning, he became the mermaid? Oh, or that one of the two food poisoning or they become the mermaid. I if I learned that mermaids were real, I don't think. I don't want to eat one. No, no, no, same. It would feel cannibalistic a little bit. Yeah. I want the dream interpretation people to tell me what they think this happened, like what this means? I just find it so creepy. So yeah, yeah, okay, Well, thank you for letting me share that, and again send us your stories. Now let's get into legends from Durangle. But first before we share legends, So I have some Durango fun facts because I didn't know anything about Durgo, so The official name of the state is the Free and Sovereign State of Durango and it's in the northwest area of Mexico, with a population of just over one point five million, which is the eighth lowest in all of Mexico. Yeah. The capital of the state is Victoria de Lourrango, usually just shortened to Lurango. The city is named after the first President of Mexico, Guadalupe Victoria, and it's mostly rural with desert and mountainous regions, and it is the home of the Raramuri, the Uiraitari, more commonly known as the Wuichol, the Teppewan, and the Mexican Neros indigenous peoples. Yes, the state was key during the Mexican Revolution and Panchrovilla himself was especially active in the state of Lurango. Interesting the more you know, now, actually onto the legends. A while back, we started like going through the states, and then we stopped to do other things. But once in a while, we're gonna go back to the states. We're going to get through every Mexican state and then every country and then every country. Yes, we've already done some but not all. Yeah, So the first legend that I have for you is La Bruqua de Durrango, the witch of Durgo. So according to legend in colonial times around the year sixteen hundred, there was a beautiful and elegant woman. She's always beautiful and elegant. It's key, it's given of course, living in the city of Durango. She was said to be a bruca, a witch. But despite her beauty, her eyes were fierce and scary, and she was very resentful they say, okay, mostly because no one believed she had powers, that her magic was real. She's like bit she has believed and. She was tired of it, and so she decided to prove her powers. And the way she did this was by finding older men in Durango so red flag and telling them that she would use her powers to help them. And this would this men like, help them defeat their enemies to get what they wanted. Uh So using her powers for evil you could say, yeah, yeah, sounds like it. Yeah, And using her bruquardia, she began to order the cruelest of punishments in the region, especially toward those who disobeyed her, but even more to women she believed were jealous of her and her beauty. No one is jealous of you, Oh my god. No, Like if she had been a girl's girl, maybe she would have survived, you know, because that's where this is going spoilers, So happens when you're pickney exactly. She also used. Her these like cruel punishments toward men who would not fall for her charms, and she, of course began to enjoy her newfound power and fame. Her neighbors in La Colonia La Sienega were under her rule and they did whatever she demanded of them. But they were getting tired of her and they unified against her. Okay, community came together, yes, and so they had her arrested and then they hoped that the local Spanish Inquisition would. Deal with her. Okay, I was gonna say, wait, are they going to get rid to the Inquisition? Yes, they did. Maybe the Inquisition would even kill her, that's what they wanted. Now I'm kind of on her side. I mean, I support women's wrongs, they do. Yeah, yeah, But for some reason the authorities at the local office of Holy Inquisition didn't know what to do with her because things that they normally did were nothing to this Bruca. She just laughed and laughed and told them that she was she had the most powerful ally on her side and because of that, as it was, it was as yes, you're correct, but because Atanas was on her side, they couldn't touch her. So the inquisition was done. They were like, well, what do we do they do that? No? No, they tried to poison her, but that did nothing to her. It didn't affect her. She just laughed again. So their next move was to try and grind up some glass and force feeded to her. Oh dear, yeah, but again but again nothing happened to her. She just laughed and laughed. Ha ha ha. Hold on, I have a quote, ha ha ha. No, then Gormas yells, misa ha that's what. She said now an ingless now in English habu with an age ha ha ha. Haven't I told you you can't do anything to me Satanas? Oh sorry, it is by my side and he is my strength ha ha ha again h on j And when they saw the inquisition, when they saw that poison and glass did nothing to her, this is when they decided to hang. And burn her. Oh no yeah. And so as she was on fire in flames she was laughing jjj a, and she cursed all who were present, and then a priest threw holy water at her face, and this caused her to stop laughing, and eventually the fire. Did its job. Once it was all said and done, there was only a pile of ashes where La Brua de Durngo once stood. But this is not the end of her story, because those cursed by her, those who watched her burn, would hear her every night, laughing and yelling curses at the damn, and then their descendants. Would hear her. That's horrible. Yeah, it just continued. And it is said by the people of Durgo that the more people talk about her, the more she appears. Not us, not us, We're not from Durrango. No, no, no, no, you have to be in Durgo. Okay, that's what I've heard. It's when I read. But the more she appears, so people try their best who never speak her name. Damn. Yes, it was not a fun one. Yeah, I like that. I love a witch. I love a bad bitch who's a witch exactly. And they say that in La Colonia Laga you can still find the tree where she was hung, and in that neighborhood. She can be her laughing after ten pm some nights. Oh my god. Yes, so let us know if you hear her. Okay, next story. This next one was short, but I love a train story. So this is a trend Boanas or the train of Boanas, and of course it takes place in Boanas, a municipality in Durango. Just a little bit about this region, this municipality. The biggest city in Poanas is via Union, with the population of just sober ten thousand people, so not a huge city. This legend dates back to the turbulent days of the Mexican Revolution. And we've talked a little bit about the Mexican Revolution here and there, but more on our history podcast. The story as are known, but needless to say, it was a time of turmoil. To say life was difficult due to the constant clashes between federal troops and the revolutionaries, it's not enough. It's an understatement. There was just yeah, fight after fight. It was a it was a difficult time. And like I said at the top during the fun facts, the state of Vurango was essential to the Mexican Revolution. So during the revolution, a train went through Buanas regularly carrying troops and or supplies, and on one particular day, it was carrying more than two hundred soldiers federal soldiers along with their supplies and weapons when it was ambushed by the revolutionaries, and the revolutionaries used explosives and they blew up several train cars, which ended up killing most of the soldiers, and many were burned or mutilated like on the spot, they died, and those who survived their injuries were so severe that after hours of pain, they succumbed to their injuries. So essentially no survivors from this attack oh wow, and I mean no one came to their ai. But even if they had, like their injuries were soul severe like, they wouldn't have made it. As time passed, when the roar of the revolution faded and memories of the tragedy began to fade, people began to fear this train area, and almost no one ever wanted to take the train because it is said that at night you can still hear the whils and screams of the soldiers who. Died in that ambush. Oh no. And stories also tell that if someone manages to reach the station without hearing anything strange, if they're at the train station at dusk, they'll hear the distant whistle of an approaching train. They'll see the light like, oh, there's a train coming, and when said train is supposed to arrive, there's nothing there. Oh a phantom train. A phantom train. Yeah, a ghost train. I love ghost train. So yeah, people don't don't like to be in this area or take the train. Makes sense, makes sense? Yeah, I wouldn't either. I wouldn't either. And okay, I have I want to say one more. I purposely went into do a shorter episode this week because we're a little busy this week. We have a lot of stuff going on. We do Carmen will be at the time we're recording, she will have already arrived to visit me. We have two events, two. Whole events, and we have a lot of food and to try, and. We're gonna go to a treating. There's a lot going on. So yeah, I went at a shorter episode. So I have one more legend for you. This is the headless Man. It looks like there's two more. Oh shit, I wrote two more. That's crazy. It says the headless Man, then it says the little monster. Oh so this is the second to last one. Either way, it's a shorter episode than usual. It always feels like a little extra because they were only expecting one. Yes, exactly, Wow, well look at that anyway, the headless man. We have talked about headless ghosts before, like Precaveza in Etsalador, but also another. I think there's a bad Inveza somewhere in Mexico too, I think. So these are very common stories. So again, not a priest. Railroad worker. Ooh, trains were big here, so that's why I think it's a road worker. Makes sense. So, according to legend, in the nineteen fifties, in the town of Nasareno Lrango lived a man who worked switching tracks for the trains that traveled through this area. He lived the peaceful life. It was the same like routine base you know, revolved around work. One day, there was an interruption in his routine because there was a huge wedding held in town. The whole neighborhood was invited, including the railroad worker. There was music, dancing, and of course alcohol. So as the afternoon wore on, the guests, including the railroad worker, everyone was super drunk and so you know more laughing, more dancing, more drinking, and then he noticed the time, and he remembered that he had to go switch tracks for a train that was going to pass at eleven pm because he still had to do his job. So he hurried down to the train tracks, but he had drank too much, so he decided to lie down on the grass to rest, using the train tracks as a pillow. And he was so deeply asleep that he didn't notice when the train passed and beheaded him in an infant. Yeah, so he just slept through that. He's left through his death. Yeah, I was just well beheaded by the train tracks, leaving him headless. The next morning, the townspeople found his lifeless body and notified the family so he could be buried. But of course it's not the end of his story, because since that tragic day, people have seen his ghosts hanging around the train tracks. He appears as a headless figure, his school dangling on one hand as he walks slowly along the train tracks. Oh wow, imagine seeing that. No, No, it sounds like you have to avoid all the train tracks in Durgo. I think, yeah, if you're If I ever find myself in durgo, I will leave, but not on the train. Yeah, no, not on the train. I'm okay. And we have one more I guess, yeah, the monster or maybe just the chupacabra. You tell me, yes, the chupacras back a fave, a fave, So yeah, tell me what you think of the end of this, if it's a new creature or the chupacaas so. In August of twenty twenty three, a group of small ranches in Lro Lrango all reported that twenty animals had been killed or injured all during one week, and they all reported the same thing, having seen a creature attack the goats, sheep, and chickens. These all happened in the municipality of Lerro, mostly near the town of San Luis del Alto. And this is mostly desert with some hilly places, and there's ranches all from a few acres to several hundred acres in size. Next to Sant Luis del Alto, there's a state park called de Fernandez And this is basically just the wild canyons, forests, trees that are. Over four hundred years old. Oh wow, yes, so just you know wild land really. So. On August thirty, twenty twenty three, a family on a small ranch in Leo woke up to find ten of their animals dead. But it was strange. Some of the animals were still in their corrals and cages and there was no blood on the ground, no track marks around them, no evidence of a struggle. The dead sheep, goats, and chickens all appeared to have their blood drained out of them by deep puncture wounds. And these puncture wounds were over a foot deep. Damn, that's pretty deep. That's not the long ass tooth, right. Yeah. All of the sheep had puncture wounds on their necks, while goats had them on their torsos between their front legs, and the chickens also or so and the chickens on their chest, and all wounds appear to have been cauterized. I'm assuming you know what that means, Like try it over, yeah, like if you burn, like if I cut myself and I burn it? Whoa so like intentionally burnt. Yeah, that's how they described the bleeding. Yes, yes, okay, why was the I don't know. Okay, that's just what they said. Okay. They appeared to have been cauterized and on top of that, some of them had a strange circular suction cut marks on them. Okay, so like, I mean that cutterized thing and then dysunction. I mean suction marks make me think it's not the chipuc got it because those are not things I've ever heard associated with the Chipucupa. I feel like, no, you're right, I would agree with that. Yeah, okay, And I read one source that said these cut marks are just like a scene or are just like the Star Trek episode called the Man Trap, which features the shaggy, hideous looking salt vampire that sucked all the salt out of its victims before killing them. Oh, I wouldn't know. I've never seen Star Trek either. Yeah, but that's what they look like, if you if. You know. So, investigators interview a few vets from Gomez Palacio, another city in the municipality, went to check it out, and after talking to locals, they learned that there was nothing out of the ordinary leading up to the attacks, except for a few locals who said they saw what they called luces malas in the skies bad lights. Interesting, which does one side with Chabra sightings? Yeah, Like, if you assume that these lights are like UFOs. Others claim to have seen something that resembles the aka Mothman Mothman, which we talked about a little bit of Bao specifically way back, like I don't remember what episode anymore, but yeah, Almita is Mothman in Mexico, So maybe this was the work of Mothman. Maybe I don't know, and not the Another local, a teenager, claimed to have seen a cat like creature walking on its hind legs like a human near one of the corrals, which makes me think. Not, Oh, that'd be even worse, right, that's scary. That's scarier than me. Yeah. When this bipedal cat like creature sensed the teenager watching him, it ran out into the desert, So it had like it was capable of sensing itself being watched and run away, you know. So it's smart. Yeah, I don't like it. And it's smart and it's running like a person. But it looks like a cat. No yeah, no, no, no no for me. Yeah so no for me. Dog And these investigations led to nothing, making locals believe that it was not the actuals and instead their very own version of some chupacata like creature. Which they call the Lelo monster. Oh, they even thought it was created in a lab. Okay, not being the lab allegations. This is actually the Chupacata's cousin Elero. They were created in the same lab, but from different pods or something. Right, right, So this supposed lab, they say, it's in the town of San Luis, Alto, where they have seen ringos coming and going, suspicions, always at the scene of the crime, these ringos. But the place they suspect is a lab. They think it's the home of illegal experimentation. And then it's either Americans, Russians or the British. Oh wow. And local police dismiss the claims of an experiment gone wrong or that this research lab exists altogether. Of course they do, of course they do, right, yeah, But the people of Lelo Lurango are certain that something attacked their livestock. I believe them. I do too, I do too. And okay, those are the only legends I wrote down. And there's way more. There's like La Monca Lal's well one, we need to do that and then. Dress up like Monca when that dance, yes, yeah, and then we have to play the song. I actually haven't wanting to do that as a costume for so long. Wouldn't that be the perfect time? It would Well, we'd have to do it part two. Yeah, of these legends till next year and we'll talk about dressed as moncas. But it's gonna be great. I'm excited. But yeah, again, short episode today because yeah, we have a lot going on this week and the next week we still had to pack. Oh gosh, but before we go, spook your recommendations, Yes, do you have any? I do? Tell me? I so, I don't know if I recommend it, but it wasn't entertaining. Okay. I had a scary movie night with my friends and we watched Clown on Netflix. Okay, take an older movie, well not. Old old, but like it's not new. It's probably like ten years old or something. I remember the year. Okay, But it's this guy who is like a worlcoholics, seems like, and they're throwing him and his wife are throwing her son like a birthday party. And then the clown can no longer the one they had hired, can no longer attend the birthday party, and so then he you know, scrambling looking for a backup plan and at one of his houses he's a realtor. At one of its houses he properties that he you know, he has whatever. He digs around to see what he finds, and he finds this old clown suit. He puts it on. He does the party, lots of fun, but then he can't take it off. Oh my god, this is like the hunted mask from a goose bo. Yeah, it's like that same concept at the clown, but with clown. Yeah. And so he basically morphs into this evil clown thing that is based off this legend they made up for the movie. We looked it up because we're like, it's just a real like mythology. But it's not. They're like saying, the clown developed from the kloin, and it's like this, it was this monster with the knows because it was out in the cold, like it was like somewhere in Europe. It lived in the cave, and the clown as we know today, it came from that. But it would eat children every winter. It would eat five children for each month of winter. Oh to hibernate, yeah, yeah or something. And so so, yeah, it becomes this thing and that's what it's about. Wow, that sounds fun. I might check it out. Yeah, it was. It was entertaining. It was disgusting, honestly because some body horror in it. As he's transforming into the clown, the suit is morphing into him. He tries to body or it's the most difficult for me. Have you seen the fly? No? But I know example of discussing, but beautiful body horror thinking about it. But it was so good. Okay, well I'm gonna check that out. Sounds fun. Yeah, and at the root of everything capitalism if you had just had a better work life balance. And I'll shut up. I mean yeah, and that fault the root of all problems. Wow, wow capitalism. Speaking of capitalism being at the root of all problems my spooky recommendation. I finally watched Juan of the Dead. Oh, how was that enjoyable? Except the homophobia. It's very much a movie of its time and of the culture it was set. And then the I want to say, twenty tens and twelve and like people other people might watch it and be like, oh, it's fine, like it's just how it is. I didn't like it. It felt like it was a little more than just throwing around like f slurs, but in Spanish, which would be m slurs. Like it felt more than that. Just like slight spoilers here, but like in the beginning, you start out like these characters are not likable, and just when you start feeling endearment towards. Them, they start doing normble. Yes, yeah they do, and it's ridiculous. It's a comedy horror, okay, so it's not supposed to be serious, and it's a zombie comedy horror. I think Shot of the Dead, but like in Gouba Sosuan of the Dead Juandrostos. But basically so the zombie couple. Apocalypse descends upon Cuba and this man, Juan of the Dead, who is like this vagabond, if you will, like this scoundrel who like is like up to no good, just looking out for himself, trying to make it any which way he can in this society he's living in. And so the zombie the zombies start to attack, and he, being the scoundrel that he is, makes a business. Out of it. He starts to charge people to kill their zombie relatives because they can't do it themselves. My god, wow, and his he at the same time because we know he's a scoundrel. He he he just like drinks all day. He fishes. He basically says like all I need is a chance and then I'm gonna figure things out. Like and he doesn't have a good relationship with his daughter of course, because of the way he is, and he's like trying to show her he's changed, and she's like, well, if you really change, she wouldn't be doing this business for the money. You'd be doing it because you care about your neighbors because of community, and you're not doing it for those reasons. And he wasn't. But by the end of the movie, he of course does change. But so this guy he sucks as a person, but he's also nice to some of his neighbors. It's it's a nuanced, okay person, you know. Parts of it were fun and it was like a fun comedy horror like zombie movie. But I that can't get it. It was too much for me, and I wanted to give it, like, if it wasn't for that, I would give it four stars. But that really knocked it down for me because it felt so intentional homophobia in this movie. And again other people by watching and might not mind it if you can get past that it is. It had such good moments as a zombie movie, but ugh, I hated that. So I loved the movie, but I hated those parts, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I feel yeah, so yeah, yeah that's how it felt about it. Yeah, yeah, nice, Okay, And I think this brings us to the end. Yeah, I think it does. Okay, reminder that you can catch us still when this airs, you can still catch us. November one, Saturday, number first, twenty twenty five in Yakima, Washington at the event The Kukui is going to get you and it's I think doors open at six pm. We're gonna be Italian scary stories. Jonathan from Latinos against pookish It. It's gonna be there. We hope to see you there. Yeah. Oh. Also a quick shout out to our listener Alejandro. At the time of release, yesterday was his birthday. Happy birthday, Yes, Felice cop Velice Ye complains Alejandro Veelice, I don't know. It's because I don't know the fullnes so I didn't do the mananitas. Also, that would it sounded terrible? Yeah, that's harder to sing. 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