Legends From Puerto Rico and the Case of Luis Angel Diaz Castro

Hi, Christina here, and I just want to remind you that if you are in the Denver area, then check out the True Crime in Paranormal Podcast Festival because Carmen and I unfortunately not MJ but we will be there. It is July twelfth through July fourteenth in Denver. Carmen and I will be on a panel with Aden from Susto and a couple of other amazing creators on Saturday, I believe, of that week. We would love to meet any of you that are in the area. We are going to have a little table and we are also going to be part of that panel, and yeah, I would love to meet any Aspoogies in the area. So again, that is a True Crime in Paranormal Podcast Festival. You can get tickets. The link is in the show notes. You can use code a Spooky fifteen for fifteen percent off or Paranormal fifteen for fifteen percent off. But hope to see any spoogies there. Also. This episode has a very long listener story, but it is worth it. It is a wild story, all right. Onto the episode. Thank you, Hi everyone. This is Christina and this is MJN and this is another episode of Spooky Tell. It's a podcast for all things as spooky and sometimes to crime, sometimes both. On today's episode we are talking about Puerto Rico. We have some legends from Puerto Rico on hundred Places. I have a short true crime case in Porto Rico, and we also have a long listener story that's not Portorico related. It's I think for Mexico. I can't remember either way. That's what's happening today. And yes, before we get into the listener story, if you have any stories that you want to send in for us to read or listen to, you can email at spooky dosagmail dot com. You can submit it on Discord. There's a couple already there and that's very exciting. What else You can DM it on Instagram. That's what this listener did. Okay, So listener story time. Okay, Oh, the first part is going to be you reading it. Yes, okay, so part one. This is such a long story. But to start with, I went with a friend to nearby White Sands missile Base about a year or so before this happened to do the but ton Is that how you pronounced that? Maybe button Memorial Death March that's a whole other story, but part of it is that my friend and I had made it to the backside of the mountain. We were pretty far behind everyone else. Parentheses I'm slow emoji shrug shrug emoji. I mean anyway, one thing, one thing that should be noted is that I've always been sensitive to things, energies and such. So we get to this point on the back of the mountain and I felt something away in the distance, yet connected somehow right there, like someone wants me to know something. I'm looking off into the desert, and these sensations were mixed. It was like an intriguing energy but then almost ominous, like there is good out there, but something is happening out there that shouldn't be happening. I know where it's happens out at White Sands. Where's White Sands? You know, maxic I think it was Texas. I thought White Sands. Was it Texas or no? Max, go, oh maybe it is New Mexico. White Oh, New Mexico. Oh okay, so weird things happened there in White Sands? Where was I? I just felt like a longing to connect and something wanted me to know what was going on. So my friend who was a solid atheist and says I'm woo woo as if I'm okay, And right at that time, three men on horseback show up. I'm sure they came from around the band behind us, but I didn't see that. It's like they just sort of appeared. It was an MP, a border patrol agent, military police for people who are fortunate enough to not know, I'm kidding, it was a military police, a border patrol agent, and someone else whose uniform I didn't recognize. It was weird to me because during the event they had medics on four wheelers, but I had not seen anyone on horseback. It's also weird because they showed up right as I was getting that sensation and staring out in the desert to where it was coming from. They just asked, you, ladies, all right? Need help? We told them no, we're just slow, and they said we needed to try to get going. Then then they left, but they didn't ride off on the trail in front or behind us, but up the mountain into the brush. Anyway, since that experience, i'd felt called to that area like I was still supposed to know something, or maybe it was a warning that I wasn't supposed to know something. Oh, I really don't know, because I've often just tried to shut out the ability I seem to have. So I just have a vague understanding of the things that happened. So fast forward to October twenty eighteen, and I decided I wanted to go back out to that area, not on base, just to the area that was calling to me, so I booked an airbnb. I wanted a sort of remote place because I like nature, and I wanted to place the fence and a doggy door so if I went on a harder day hike, Diesel, my pup could stay home and be safe and comfortable and have access to go outside. What a cute name, Diesel. I rented a farms day. It seemed to just show up in perfect timing because I was about to give up ongoing since finding the place with those specifications would be hard. I kept seeing this property show up, but the pictures made it look sort of run down, so I kept passing it by. I finally looked at it, thinking what the hell, and it had what I was looking for is and it was super cheap, like sixty eight a night for the small farmhouse. And the whole farm to ourselves. That's an insane price. Maybe it was that cheap for a reason, which maybe we'll find out. This is a listener story, after all. It was south of Las Cruces in Messilla Valley, right on the Rio Grande. There was just a levee separating their property from the river, and it was beautiful. The owners said their grandmother used to live in the home. Anyway, Oh gee, this is so long and details matter. I wish they had a voice message option because I'm basically just getting to the real story. Okay, Well she did find the voice option, and now we're gonna hear her story. So the house is beautiful and it's a small, like Adobe style house. But when you first come in the back door like where there's like a mudroom, and so me and Diesel walk in the house for the first time. When we get there, right when you pass through the entryway, there's like a I don't know, there's like just a separate, tiny little room where the door is, and then you go into the mudroom. And to the left when you walk through that little doorway, there was a life size statue, like a old wooden statue. Was really pretty, but it scared the shit out of us. And I can't ever remember the name of the saint, but it's what the saint that protects the animals. Before I go to the next part, does anyone know what saint that is? Let me see, I've heard of him, but I don't know the name. Saint Francis of a sci Oh, and also how cool, like the saint that protects animals and she has her little dog, right, yeah, okay, let me play the next message. So that statue is there to the left, and it's as we walk in, my dog freaks out. And he was a little dog, a little Boston Terrier, So he like jumps back, scooches back, like crouches down, and starts growling and barking at it like I've never heard him do before. He's terrified of it, and like the hair is standing up on me as soon as I see this thing, and so I know there's something going on with it, or something maybe inhabiting it. I don't really know what that was, but the feeling was definite that there was something wrong right with that statue. So because I don't know, I'm me and I say things. I just looked at it and I'm like, no, you stay out here, right, And so there's like French doors from that room that go into the actual home, and the energy shifted in the house immediately. It was like inviting and comforting and loving, and it was beautiful and wonderful. But that room out there where that statue was was a whole different story, right, And I also knew that my dog was going to have to go through that room and pass that step to use the dog door, which was inside the door that we used, you know, to come inside. So but I also know I have to leave the French doors like cracked to the to the mudroom so my dog can use the doggy door if he needs to. So I do that, but I'm not willing to leave it wide open. I mean, like I know, if I guess if it wanted to come in there, it could I don't know, maybe it couldn't. So I told it every night, like, you stay out here. You are not allowed in this house like past this door, and Diesel remained afraid of it the whole time, and basically so did I. Like, it just was ominous. It was weird, and so anyway, other than that, the house was beautiful and great and wonderful. And the first night was great, and you know, I woke up ready to go on a hike, and I made breakfast for me and for him and coffee, and like, the homeowners were wonderful. They had left fresh apples from the tree, and they left me like a basket of eggs from the chickens, and you know, coffee and all that stuff because they were so remote. So we had a great morning and made breakfast and all that. I was about to take a shower, and again I'm me, so I talked to my animals. I talked to everything. I tell my dog, okay, you hang out here like in the bedroom, and uh, I'm gonna take a shower and then we'll go hike. And when I get out, you know, I'm drying off and I hear my dog whining. I go in the bedroom where I'm assuming he is, and he's not there, but I can still hear him. And so, you know, immediately I'm like, well, shit, maybe he got Maybe he went outside and he can't figure out how to get back in, or maybe he you know, opened a door, or I don't know, he's to try to get into stuff. So maybe he got tried to get into a cabinet to get food or whatever. So and I'm looking for him. I'm opening up every door to every room. I'm opening up closet doors. I literally looked in every cabinet, every closet, every bedroom. I went outside, and I'm only hearing him like off and on, but I can't tell where he is, and he's just whining. So, you know, I'm outside and I'm looking, and I'm thinking, well, maybe they're there like a cellar, or maybe there was a hole or something that went under the house, and maybe he's stuck, you know, I don't know, so and I'm looking and I'm looking, and when i'm outside looking, I don't hear him anymore. But then I hear him once when I'm like outside where the bedroom window is, which is, you know, where I thought he was to begin with. But I don't see him, can't tell exactly where it's coming from, can't find him. So I'm starting to low key freak out, thinking, you know, like where's he gonna be. He can't be that far And the fence that surrounds the house itself isn't that big of an area, like it's a whole farm but the fence was just around the house area before the rest of the property, right, So I keep looking because you know, I mean, surely he has to be somewhere, but I don't hear him anymore. So now I'm thinking, well, hell, maybe got through the fence somehow went through the horsepin and is wandering and he's a little dog, and there's coyotes out there. So I start worrying about that, and I start walking the property and I'm calling out to him. I can't you know, I'm freaking out because my thought is if I lose him out there and I can't find him by the time I'm supposed to leave, you know, like I can't just leave. I can't just leave my dog lost in another state. At this point, I'm crying, and I'm having all these terrible thoughts about what could have happened to him with coyotes or whatever. And there's like an orchard next to this farm, and I'm walking down that side road and she's asking me what's wrong, and I'm asking her if she's seen a little black and white dog. She says no, she says to go ask the farmer next door. I actually don't speak Spanish, and most of the people there speak Spanish, and so the guy next door does. And I also know, like it's country, right, so you don't go on other people's property. Still walking, and I call my friend Jamiica because I just like need comfort, I need the port, and I'm asking her what the hell, and you know, she just listens to me and asks me where I've looked and all that, and so anyway, hang up with her. At the point I'm still wandering around, I decide I'm gonna get in the car because if he has gotten out of the fence, you know, he could be far at this point. So I get in the car. I get up onto the levee so I can get a good view. There's a road on top of the levee that separates the river from the farms. Right. That's when I end up at the farm next door, and the man comes out like what the hell are you doing here? But he understands enough English and I don't speak any Spanish, which sucks. At that point, I wish I had been able to speak with him better. But he was very kind, and I asked him if he had seen the dog. He said no, asked him, He asked me what he looked like. He said, you know, if I see him, I'll bring him to you. Get back in my car and I'm driving along the levee looking for him. At this point, by the way, it's been like two and a half for like three hours, you know, because I'm just looking everywhere. I called the homeowners. She's like, Okay, we're gonna come out there and help you look, and the groundskeeper is going to come out and help you look. We'll be there as soon as we can. It'll be like thirty minutes. You know. They were super nice about it, knowing that I was freaking out. So I turn around and I'm going back to the house. I'm driving on top of the levee and I'm super mad, right because in my mind I'm already thinking like that thing in that fucking statue. Sorry for my words, but anyway, I was so mad, and I'm like yelling out loud in my car to this thing because i know there's something in it, right, and you know, around and I'm like, don't you fucking take him? Don't you know you better fucking bring him back. I don't know what the hell's wrong with you. We didn't do anything to you. You know, blah blah blah, we're respecting your property, and you know, YadA YadA, and I'm pissed and I'm yelling at this thing. And then it occurs to me, like all of a sudden, there's the shift and energy, like get quiet. Something's telling me to get quiet and calm the hell down. And I know I sound like a crazy person, but I hope y'all, since you do what you do, understand what I'm with, what I'm doing here, what my thought process was, and so anyway, I just got quiet and I calmed down. And then I'm crying, and you know, dogs are my kids. I don't have kids, and I just instead of being angry, I shifted and I was like, please bring him back. I don't know how to do life without him. I can't leave here without him. Please bring him back, Just bring him back. About that time, I'm getting closer to the house. So the backside of that mud room where that statue was is all glass and it has like a sliding glass door on the other side of the room, you know, andre from where the doggy door is. Right. So as I'm going down the little hill from the levee to park and try to go back to the house and look some more. There my dog's there. He's in the house, and he is freaking the f out, like he's having a panic attack, and he's scratching on that back door on the on the glass side of the door facing where I am right and I'm pulling up, and he's like and whaling and whining and just flipped out right, and he can't seem to figure out how to get out. He's just like jumping on that glass door when the dog door is on the other side, and like I would have expected him to just run out the doggy door to come meet me out at the fence, but he didn't seem to know what to do. He was just so freaked out. He was having some kind of panic. And at that point I just I don't know. I knew that I don't know where he was. I don't know where he was, and my only thought was like another room, another I don't know, you know. I mean, I guess I do know, but I don't even know. I don't want to see it because I don't really know for sure, and also it's scary and strange to say it, but it's just something that I feel like, I know he wasn't there, but he was around, you know what I mean, Like I couldn't see him until I asked for him to be brought back. Right. So anyway, I go in the house and my dog is just like he's shaken, and he just went like whimpering and whining, and I'd take him into the bedroom and I put him on the bed and I lay there and just like hold on to him. And you know, our plan was to go on a hike that morning, or I was gonna go on a hike by myself, I think, I can't remember. No, he was gonna go with me, I think. But I thought, you know, we're both exhausted and this is strange. And I lay down and because that was so stressful, I guess it was exhausting, and we just fell asleep. I think, yeah, we got to get up and go on this hike. Everything's fine. We go out to this park up in Las Crusis has this beautiful mountain. They had had unseasonable, unseasoned whatever you call it, heavy rains that are not normal, sorry, and so everything was sort of lush and green on the mountain, which is unusual, and so we go on a short hike. There's a little waterfall area up there, and fortunately because of the rain, I'm thinking we can see it, and we did, and there's like nobody there because it's I think it was a week day, I don't remember. But anyway, so the whole time we're doing this little hike, I have him off leash, even though you're not supposed to, and he never goes further than like five or ten feet away from me. So we're walking along, but then I'm getting this feeling something's watching us. But this time it was more like a I got the feeling it was a mountain lion, you know. We got to the waterfall, enjoyed it for a little bit, calmed down, had some water, and then I don't know, he was anxious, like something was close by. And so anyway, I put him back on the leash for part of that trail back and then we went back. So we were there for a couple of nights, and the next night was fine, right, but still that energy in that mudroom where that thing was was scary, and I would tell it, you know, stay out here, don't come in this house. And the other weird thing is I feel like the homeowners, maybe their grandmother or maybe the we're aware of something or energies or protections or whatever, because there was like a bucket of salt that I don't know. It just seemed out of place, right, like they don't have a water softener or a pool or anything like that. And it wasn't like table salt. It was just you know, the big bucket of like rock salt. And my immediate thought was they were using it to protect the property at some point, maybe you know, putting it around. I don't know. I never asked them about it because I didn't want to seem too weird. But I do think they're the kind of people that are open to it. I just didn't feel comfortable discussing all the details. However, you know, when they asked how the stay was, and so I was telling them it was great, but I you know, I said, I don't know if how you guys feel about certain things or feelings or situations or just people being uncomfortable with items. But I said, you know, that statue you have out there is really unnerving. I just wasn't a fan of that. But otherwise, you know, the house was great, and I was kind of trying to make it lighthearted because I didn't want to get again. Seemed too weird to him, and he actually just kind of paused and he said, do you know what, I've never liked it either. It feels weird to me. And then he said, and we've had other guests say that they don't like it. Yeah, there's something about it. People don't like it. And he said, my wife found it out a garage sale, and she loves animals and nature, and so she bought it because she thought it would be neat to put out there at the farm because it's the saint, you know, that protects animals, and so it was weird. It was like, you know, her heart was in the right place, and it was exactly it felt like it was exactly the opposite. And I don't know that's I mean, that's the majority of the story, but there's other details, like I have friends in the military still, well it's my friend's husband, and so I told her I was going out there hiking, you know, on this trip, and she said, my husband's says, if you're gonna go anywhere, make sure that no fewer than three people know where you are, have a camera with you at all times. If you think you see or feel something weird but you don't physically see it, take a picture because it might show up on your camera. And I'm thinking, what in the hell are you talking about? And I'm telling her, you know, I believe in alien stuff too, and I know that there's some rumor about all of that, especially out at the White Sands Missile Ground, and she just like sends me pictures of you know, like cartoon alien heads and all that, and so I'm thinking, Okay, well, I know what you're trying to say. And she said, seriously, if you're going by yourself, be careful and just make sure people know where you are going and when you're expecting to return. And the only thing I can think about that is, you know, what do they know? Are people disappearing out there? And if they are, like, I don't think it's human disappearances. Do you know what I'm saying? I don't know. I realize it sounds weird saying it out loud now, but it is what it is. I still believe that that said she was inhabited by something or something attached to it, and that is most as a story. Okay, we made it. We made it. But before I get your thoughts, guess what she what episode she listened to before she was like, I need to send my story in close the one you oh, is it the one that you guys did about some forest? No? Yeah, so do you remember those four kids? Yes, lost in the jungle in the Amazon. And then we had also talked about another guy. His name was Michael Akuna and he got lost in the jungle too. Yeah, that's episode I was thinking, okay, yeah, and you know how in that episode they said that well the kids, the grandma of the kids said that she thought they were in another realm, like the one that took them to another Yeah. And then that guy in the Amazon as well, Michael Wakuna was also believed to have been taken by the Duende that you know, mother Earth like it's her it's her due that he took him to another realm for like disrespecting Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and so that's what she listened to when she she was like, I need to send my story in because she was like, what was my dog taken to another realm? But like, what do you guys think happened to the dog? I have thoughts? Okay, so going onto the duende. Yes, it sounds like fay related, which you know, like when there's a type of fay, type of fairy or whatever. Right, but fairies are also connected to UFO activity. Yeah. And then the thing also like she said that maybe this statue, while it was creepy, it was well intended because when she went on the hike, she felt like it was some kind of like wildcat up there. Maybe it was like trying to protect the dog. That's what I also think because they like and knew and that's why it took it. Yeah, because it knew there was something roaming and it's like I'm gonna take you because if you go out the doggy door, you're gonna get eaten. Yeah. Yeah, Like it like it might have been like creepy, but it might have also been well intended, especially if it's like fay related, because I feel like they have a very like this connection to nature, and if it was they related, I don't think it would have harmed the dog, but I don't know. Yeah, but it also like with her being like, oh well, it felt like there was like like you know that it was a mountain lion. I'm like mountain lions if if your dog was tiny, would have like just gobbled up poor thing up. And it probably was like, oh, no, there's something outside, and and maybe like while she was showering, the dog might have tried to like leave, and this thing was like protecting it from being eaten and going out the dog door. So I don't know, that is my thought, because it's also weird that there was this. You know, she felt like there was like this big cat roaming and she had a tiny dog. I'm like, that's just that's that's, you know, their snack. So I also feel like it was trying to but it was it could have been like, we know, one of those things where it's like I don't play around. I'm a protector, but I don't play around. It's it's very weird. Yeah, yeah, I was like, wow, that's so strange. But I kind of agree with your thoughts as well, like, yeah, I don't think this thing was it was meaning to be malicious in making the dog go missing. It could have been well inten intended, Like it could have also been like, hey, there's something outside, I'm protecting your dog. I was about to go outside and get eaten, but I protect deal. I just put them in this place for now. And those were the more of the vibes that that she was getting, like not scary, but like just something present. Yeah, and like it could have been like like I said, like some protector vibes, like yeah, that doesn't mess around, like it's not necessarily nice, but it will protect you and especially your pets. And you know, it's it could be that, it could be the I don't know, there's so many components why. Maybe it was like some you know, the fay turn and protect your dot. Who knows, But that would be interesting if she ever finds out if there's any like stories of little people in the area, especially like if there's like a you know, indigenous community there and their folklore. I know they often talk about the little people like this one this, and if she ever finds some information about that, that'd be interesting. Yeah, but also very creepy. Yeah, Like I think either it it was either fairy or faye dude, or or aliens aliens. Yeah. On that note, we're going to take an ad break. Welcome to our Hunted break. 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According to legend, drivers riding around the town might spot a woman in the middle of the road. When the driver then stops to speak to the woman, she asks for a ride. Those who agreed to give the woman a ride are then startled when only a few minutes down the road, the woman turns into a horrendous baby and starts to cry. The cries which happened a horrendous A horrendous. The cries have been described as unbearable. Then causes the driver to lose control of the vehicle and crash into de Las Calabasas. But choosing to ignore the woman won't spare your life either, because legend says that the woman will still appear to drivers who refuse to help her. It's believed that this is probably why there have been so many accidents reported on the bridge. The most popular belief states that the woman is the spirit of a mother frantically looking for her children. It's strange. I don't like the baby aspect. Paranormal children freak me the fuck out. Is she though a parormal child? Because then she said it's she and then she turns into a baby, So yeah, it's not a real baby this time. Are they ever real babies? That's a question? Are they ever? Yeah? I don't know, okay, so uh the second story is another yes, okay, okay, but uh, I believe that the legend of Lorna from Puerto Rico is scarier. According to the townspeople of while driving on Yosa, a ghostly woman will unnoticeably hop in the backseat of a car. Drivers are mostly gonna wear until they look at the rear view mirror and find Lorona staring back at them, and then they get a accident. That's scary. See, I wouldn't even go that round. I would have sawt somebody like snuck into my car and then was like surprise, bitch, And then I'd be scared, like this is the actual person, Like I'm not getting mugged, A'm I getting robbed? Is this real? For a while, I used to have an irrational fear and that would like like took my back seat like all the time. You know what, it's because of that damn urban legend. Oh I thought you were going to say this because of what our dad did. Oh I forgot what he did. That was so traumatized. Oh you don't remember. Oh my God blocked it out of your father to tell the story. Okay, so he thought it would be I don't remember how old we were, but I know we went. Our mom took the shopping to the shopping center in Amoryville, and I remember what the urban. Yes, like there was a lot of stores that she liked, and so we went there. And I don't know how he knew she was there, if she told them, I don't know whatever, But we left the stores, got in the car. I don't remember how old we were, but we were all less than ten years old for sure. Elementary school. Yeah, yeah, and our dad was hiding, and I think we were in the van because he was hiding in the but you know the vans, you could just it's not like separate. Yeah, it's not like a trunk truck right in the same area. Yeah, so he's hiding there, he was hiding, and he pops up and he screams, and then I'm pretty sure we all pare our pants, you know at our age when it's okay if you're scared, but not not normal. No, No, a little brother Legit had like a panic attack. He had a panic attack. Yeah, I'm like our mom had to find bread or something to give him, like for susto, basically like to calm him down, because it was it was like, what is wrong with this man? Why would you do that? And our dad was laughing before he realized how scared we actually were. Yeah. Then he was like, ah fuck, yeah. So that's why I was scared for years. Even when I started driving it checked. I checked my back seat. Yeah. I still look at my back seat before when I leave work, and especially when I have the van. I just like when I peak in there, I'm like, all right, it's safe, it's safe to go in there. Which legend, now, I'm curious which legend were you talking about, Christina. So there's a movie called Urban Legend, and it's in the movie too, but basically the legend is and it's also in one of the Scary Stories to Tell the Dark books. It's in one of those two. But basically the legend is that you know, a girl was driving Okay, I know what one you're gonna say. The car behind her kept turning on its lights and she's like, why is this car? What is this car doing? And she keeps driving. The car follows her and she's freaked out the car then she turns into her driveway and he's like, no, don't get out of your car, like, I'm not following you. There's a person in your backseat and they've been in there the whole time, and I'm turning on my lights to stop them from stabbing you. Yeah, that's the legend. Yeah, I remember, so both of those reasons is why I checked my backseat. I also reminds you, like I don't know if you guys remember, but that one time my kid was in the in the backseat of the car and he's like, I saw Uncle Robbie and it was a friend that had passed away. That's yes, that's actually the better out of all of these because it is you know, it's a friend. It's a friend, a friend, ghost the ghost. Okay, So next story, this third story is called elbe and it's also in Puerto Rico, so probably the same bridge. Huh Is this the same bridge as the last story? No, no, no, no, no, this is another bridge. The first one was in Coamo, Puerto Rico, and then the second story of that goes into your car was in has another legend similar to the first one, but this isn't on the same bridge. No, the other one was Calabasas and this one is but the second story. But the second story. Oh yeah, yeah, the second story and this one are in the same place. Okay, okay, okay, got it. I'm not crazy, Okay, not sorry. I thought you guys were like confusing the first or I was like, wait, no, that's like similar, but it's a different city. Okay, okay, so it says Muncho Luna was an alcoholic who went to town every Saturday to get drunk, and one Saturday night, while on his way back from work, he heard what sounded like a baby crying. So Muncho got off his horse and began trying to find where the cries were coming from. To his surprise, he found a baby on a Feeling sorry for the baby, Muncho picked the baby up and took him into his arms, but the baby would not stop crying. In an attempt to figure out what was bothering the baby, Muncho gave the baby a piece of bread in case of fit was hungry. But then when the baby opened his mouth, he heard a man's voice coming from the baby. Oh, the voice said, I have teeth, and that's when the baby showed Mcho his sharp, vampire like teeth too. A scared demon baby story. I love a drunk deal. It's always a drunk deal. Okay, where was I scared? Muncho then threw the baby back onto the road and runs he was like, yeah, he literally eated the baby. Oh my god, not today, Satan, okay, a few kids satan. A few days later, Moncho Muncho got sick and in desperation, promise he would no longer drink if he recovered fully. Eventually, Muncho did recover, and he made his way to church, where he gave God thanks for saving him from the demon child. Till this day, though, many locals say that you can still hear the baby's cries from time to time, and many worn visitors to stay away from the bridge at night. Yeah, this reminds me of don't pedrol somewhere in Mexico. But he also throws a baby. But that one is funny because they say that the baby said us this puppy. It is just more than farious. Now that cracks me up. That demon baby definitely wins. The demon baby quotes yeah yeah, like, give that demon baby an award and restraining orders this puppy man, Okay, I drink water. Okay. So this next story is called the hatch a synthena, which is in Ovi supports. This story is used by many parents to make sure their kids don't stay out till late. It's the story of I love these okay too. It always scared me as a child. It's the story of farmer from Orokovis who like to stay out late fishing. When a fishing story another one one day and well for patron members, Yeah, I forgot about that. One day, on his way back from home from fishing, his hatcho that he that he was using to light the way back home burnt out. I was like, what is a hatcho? Okay, that makes sense. Wait, what is a hatcho? It's like a lamp, like a lamp? I would a gap? Yeah, I don't know. Let me see. Let's google real quick. Does Yeah, it's a lamp like a like an oil lamp. Oh okay, mm hmmm. On one day, on his way back home from fishing, his hatcho that he used to light the way back home burnt out. As back up, the farmer lit up a wooden crucifix that he found in his bag. It was the only thing he found in his belongings that could help the way back home. But God was not pleased with what the farmer did and punished the farmer instead. A few days later, the farmer got ill and died. The man spirit was then condemned to stay on earth and will not be allowed to rest until he finds all the crucifix crucifixes ashes in Orokovis it said that whenever you see a floating lights in the woods, it's the man with hatrol looking for the missing ashes. So if you're a kid, you better not get stuck outside after dark. Oh, I wonder if God has that same sentiment for the KKK right. I found this thing on Reddit. Someone submitted this legend to No Sleep. But they said that the father gave the man, and the man the man's name has Binancio and so he Vnanzi was a fisherman from a lord Tramley, and the father gave him a crucifix always have it with him. And he told them like there was like one rule because the cross was like inherited from the father to father to father in the family. And so he told him the cross has to be with you always. It can never leave your side, nor can it be destroyed. Our family has kept it safe for generations. Don't be the one that breaks the tradition. And he was so no, no, no, okay. And I have one last story and it's called the dismembered bodies of Lahas, and this takes place in Lahas, Puerto Rico. When you're in Puerto Rico, you might want to stay away from Highway PR one sixteen near Lahas, especially if you're not a fan of gore, because at night, especially foggy nights, you might hear the dogs barking and howling uncontrollably, uncontrollably, Oh my god, Okay, after the barks start. It's been reported that dismembered body parts crawling their way down the highway. Everything from legs to arms and torsos have been seen going down the highway. Drivers and residents of the town cannot identify who the remains belong to. It's said that p R One sixteen is one of the most fatal roads on the island, and the dismembered body parts belong to the victims who lost their lives on the road and are still trying to get to their destination. Ooh, that's scary. Ew I don't like it. I will not be driving on that road ever. If I ever make my way to Puerto Rico. I do want to visit me too, Me too, at least not on foggy nights. Yeah, especially not on foggy nights. Maybe you'll feel safe because you won't see it. Yeah, until they reach you, until one jumps to your car, windows slams they like, and the slides down. No, stop it, I'll stop it. You skirreed myself right now. I have nightmares tonight. I'm blaming you. I'm sorry as you should. Yeah, all right, and we'll take a quick ad break before getting to the true crime part and we're back. Okay. So this is a newer case, so there was not a lot of detail about it. But because it is Pride Month, I did want to bring light to this case that I didn't know about. So I feel like more people should know about so trigger warning because someone is murdered and they are trans so. On the morning of August eleventh, twenty twenty three, a mother received news that no one should ever have to receive. Her son, Louis Angelias Castro, was found decomposing in his former partner's closet. Oh oh my, and he was only twenty two. A baby, she's so young. Yeah, like you don't even know anything at that age. You think you do, but like you really don't, you know, just a baby yeah, he was super young, only twenty two. He was also the twenty sixth transgender, non binary or gender non conforming person to die by violence at that point in twenty twenty three in the US, so like just a little halfway through the year. And this was the twenty sixth murder of a trans someone in the LGBTQ plus ia community and the second trans murder victim in Puerto Rico that year at that point August twenty twenty three. And so Louis was born in Baiamond, Puerto Rico. He attended and graduated from Louis Munos Rivera High School and then attended the university that the Puerto Rico in Arecibo. And he was kind, hard working, loved his family, you know. When he graduated, and at the time of his death, he worked for the US Department of Education in Puerto Rico. He loved music and had to love this people up because I didn't know who they were. But ce Marivas, I don't know, No, I couldn't tell you. I looked him up and it was regaton ish, like if you mix rigaton and pop. That's what Chris I don't like to me. I found him on YouTube and then someone else named John Dene. I don't know who that is. I tried looking it up and nothing came up. So I don't know why he's listening to music, but that's the music he loved, and unlike many of the people that you know, belonged to the lgbt PSI a community. I hate saying all those words together because it just reminds me of all us I was. Karmen cuts me off and says legitimate c yes anyway, So you know, unlike a lot of people, his family accepted him for who he was. They didn't try to change, and they didn't cut him off. Beautiful. That's amazing. Yeah, it's and it's so like shocking to hear too in our community, like yeah mm hmm. Yeah, and we've more so when you because like I feel like if you're in the US, but you're also part of the Latino community, maybe you're it's a little more accepting. Even that's like a reach because you know, it's the same culture and too many Latinos are conservative here. Yeah, but then you know, you talk about like a transperson in Latin America specifically you know, Puerto Rico, Mexico, and yeah, they are so other so stigmatized, So that's there's a reason that they're part of like the most marginalized groups. So just to hear that he was so accepted is it's really it's beautiful. So at some point Louis had confided in his mother that his partner, Domingo Rafael Quinho Ubi, was abusive and the details are hard to find, but from what I could find through several news sites, Louis ended up reporting his partner for the abuse and Ubri Domingo Quino UBI. Sorry, hard to say all those names. Anyway, he ended up being arrested for this, and he did spend some time in jail, So that's another thing thing that really happens. Yeah, that he was believed and the prison was actually arrested. So on the Friday before Louis was found in his in that closet dead, he had called his mom using a friend's phone, and he told her that he was very scared because Domingo Rafael had been released from jail and he was back on the streets and that was the last like anybody heard of him that phone call. So his mom was obviously super worried. She went to the police a few hours after that phone call, worried and when she was at the station, she saw Domingo, the partner ex partner, being brought in handcuffs, and it turns out that he had robbed somewhere. He had committed unrelated to her son, but he had committed on robbery somewhere and that's why he was being brought in. When she saw him at the station, she told officers, this man is Louise's my son, his former partner, and there's a history domestic violence. He was just released and the last phone call anyone heard from Louise was him saying he was scared. So because of that, police ended up like talking to him somehow. He consented to having his apartment, the shared apartment between him and Louise searched, so because Domingo was in jail, Louise was staying in that apartment still. He didn't like he thought he was safe. That makes leave, yeah, So he was still there and Domingo gave the police permission to search the apartment. And as soon as they opened the door, right away they knew like something is wrong here because of the smell, and they went to the closet and that's where they found Louise deceased under a pile of clothes and a suitcase. And so this was all very fast, like it was Friday. He was reported and then you know, after having Domino and custody questioned him getting permission, they made it to the apartment of Monday morning and they found him. And it's just very sad to lose someone, you know, in such a violent way. So his family buried him, and when they buried him, they you know, because this is something that commonly happens where either of the family does not attend the funeral at all, which I don't know if you both remember when we talked about and again it's terrible because I can't remember her name, but you know the shirt bad Buddy war with the skirt and it was a big deal, and we talked about that case. Her family did not attend her funeral. They were like, she's dead to us. They didn't even attend. It was the community that knew her that attended her funeral. So in Louisa's case, his family buried him in his name that he chose. You know, they never once dead named him, which is something that happens where if they do attend the funeral, they'll bury them with their dead name and all this other stuff. At the grave they put like, you know, the Pride flags on like next to his tombstone. Just really you know, really beautiful. And they they you know, respected him even you know, in his death, which yeah, something that rare, sadly rarely happens. In his grave they wrote Mama tomanos ifamilia, which is just so sad just reading those. Yea, and I guess in English, will always remember you, your mom, brothers and family will always be seven, so a family of seven. And then just to share this from the Human Rights Campaign director, the director of of that, she said, her name is Tory Cooper. She's the Sorry Human Rights Campaign director of community Engagement for the Trance Justice Initiative. She said the following about Louise. Although it brings the community some solids knowing Louise's killer is in police custody, it breaks my heart to witness the life of my trans brother, and far too early. Louise was only twenty two years old and should still be alive to experience the joy that comes with being in your twenties. Louise's death adds to the drastic uptick we've seen in transmurders in twenty twenty three, yet in his death we must remember to celebrate his life. And then the following is from the website of the Human Rights Campaign, just because they said it much better than I ever could, So this is just straight copying paste from there. But between twenty thirteen and twenty twenty two, approximately one third of transgender and gender non conforming people with known killers. Because a lot of these cases go unsolved as well, but so of those that the killer was known, their lives were taken by someone they knew, an acquaintance, a friend, or a family member, or intimate partner. Intimate partners specifically accounted for one in five of all known perpetrators. And this is something that's coming with women being murdered as well. Yeah, that it's the intimate partner. There was like this thing going on to that thought. There was this thing that men don't have a problem with very masculine LGBTQ members, but they have problems with feminine LGBTQ members beciudes, women. They hate women. It's not that they hate gay men, it's that they hate femininity and anything having to do with that that's why they're so violent, too violent against very feminine men in general. Because somebody said, like, they have no problem with those bro looking gay men, but they have a problem with feminine men, and which is true, because you see that the feminine men being attacked the most. They don't. They don't. They're not going to come up to a guy that looks like he could bench five hundred pounds. M h. This makes sense. And then to continue that quote, to date, the relationship with the victim to the killer is still unknown for a polarolo for a lot polarity for forty four percent, yes, thank you, I can't say it. I'm not going to try it. For forty four percent of all identified cases of fatal violence. At the state level, Transgender and gender non conforming people in Puerto Rico are not explicitly protected from discrimination and employment, housing, education, and public spaces. Police in Puerto Rico do not collect LGBTQ plus identifying information. Although Puerto Rico's crime hate crime laws express expressly include both sexual orientation and gender identity, prosecutors in Puerto Rico rarely apply it. Though we have recently seen some political gains that support and affirmed trans people. We have also faced un presented, unprecedented anti LGBTQ plus attacks in the States. Over five hundred anti LGBTQ plus bills were introduced in state legislatures across the country during twenty twenty three, over two hundred and twenty of which directly targeted trans people. As of this writing, which was twenty twenty three, eighty five anti LGBTQ plus bills have been signed into law, more than any other year on record, and now is twenty twenty three. Wow. We must demand better from our elected officials and reject harmful anti trans legislation at local, state, and federal levels, while also considering every possible way to make ending this violence of reality. It is clear that fatal violence disproportionally affects trans women of color, especially black transgender women. The intersections of racism, transphobia, sexism, by fobia, and homophobia conspired to deprive them of necessities to live and thrive. We must all work together to cultivate acceptance, reject hate, and end stigma for everyone in the trans and gender non conforming community. And yeah, I just wanted to read that because it's very important. Applausus applausus all around. That was me applauding with one hand. This is they were kind of applaud applus. It's because I was looking at the episode I was going to recommend and I just wanted to find it. I was holding my phone. Okay, okay, but yeah, I wanted to add that because again, as Carbon and I say, and MJ we say all of us all the time, a true crime case is more than just a true crime case. You know, as we talked about in last episode, the you know, activism of Ometo is what got him targeted and he was murdered for his activism. But also you know, also with that comes the indigenous population that live in the area and how indigenous activists are often the ones killed. But also this goes over to how trans people, especially of color, are you know, not what I don't want to say, murdered the most, but are affected the most by this. Yeah, and yeah, that is the case. Just it happened last year, so there's not a lot of information, but you know, from what we do know is that Louise was loved by his family and it was a life cut way too short. And yeah, yeah, let's move let's move on. To speaky recommendations. I have one m j oh Cartman. Do you want to go first, Acond, yes, since I already blurted out, whoever blurret out goes first. It's really how we did think, so it really is. Today I listened to the Lao serial Killer episode of True Crime Cases with Laney shout out, Laney, very much in line with the case you talked about today, because this is about a man who killed trans women in Laredo, Texas. And I'm really bad at remembering names, but something I remembered was one of the victims. Her family also accepted her immediately. I love that her younger sister even said, now I have the big sister I always wanted. Now im legit almost cried when I heard that I have children right now. Just cried right now. Yeah. And I can't remember if it was that same victim or a different one. So, but her family she had talked to another family member about her watching I can't remember who it was, some celebrity on TV and the celebrities wearing our red dress and then she says, I want to wear that. She told her family, I want to wear that when I die in my funeral that's what I want to wear. And her family respected that and they she was wearing a red dress when they buried her, and they decorated her tomb with like pride flags and everything, and I'm like, just a what a beautiful thing that they accepted her and loved her for who she was. Yeah, seriously, I'm going to send you guys the little real that the family made of Louise, just so you guys can see. It's gonna be in the chat, the Facebook chat. Okay, so you can see his grave that they made. I'm watching it right now. Oh, I'll have a friend with that birthday born in two thousand, Yeah, two thousand, so young. But yeah, do you guys I see that? Yeah, you know his pictures there his you know his name? Yeah, the flags just beautiful. Yeah, I like that they put a picture. Yeah, MJ, do you have any speaking There's the same recommendation from that our Patreon members got to know, which I'll share with everybody else, which is that I watched Godzilla Minus one. It was really good. I love Godzilla, any of those I've been wanting to see that and my paranormal on camera. I think that's that's all. I got that's my usual. I have only been watching Degrassi still, okay, and now you can stop talking. Damn. Now you're right. Nobody else wants to hear about the Grassy. I still haven't watched it, but I will give it. I'll watch it eventually. You're honestly, unless you want like some crappy teen cheesy drama show. You know who always reminds me of the Secret Life of a teenager, it's a little better. No, that one was worse yead. I didn't realize how bad it was until I started rewatching clips that should pop up on Instagram, and oh my, it was so cringey like that that was the first episode, was Ricky when he does so like I don't know what it was, that like a real oh my god, I hadn't even seen that. Yeah, yeah, how about when the other guy she's dating and she decides to go out with Ben I think his name is, and he's like, you're my whore. I've been romantic. Yeah, but yeah, Like I couldn't stand Amy as a character, And like even then I wanted to just just throw hands because she was so annoying, but like she was now more more so she was so annoying. Definitely, definitely. Yeah, okay, and then I do have one more actual speaking recommination. I listened to guests Bookie's latest episode. It was a lot of fun. I cannot remember what it was about, so but it's the latest one. Then it is the latest one, and they released monthly, so so you'll find it. It's gonna be the Yeah, I'm so behind on my podcast. I have not had time to listen to any of them, like behind three months on like fifteen. That is very behind. Oh, ritual games. That's what they did, ritual games. And yeah, it's a lot of fun because some games I did not hear about. I shall I see if they Mother Midnight, Sarda Sarrita. I knew about Sada Sarrita, but I didn't know about Mother Midnight. But yeah, it's a fun episode. So that's my actual spooky recommendation. And yeah, I will not talk about the grassymore and we can end here my child's crime. All right, Thanks both of you for joining me for this episode. Carmen again has contractual obligations to be here. Yes, I don't know, I guess. Don't pick up crying babies on random bridges in Puerto Rico or anywhere. Okay, and oh sorry, no, before we go, just a reminder that if you are in the Denver area, check out the True Crime Paranormal Podcast Festival exactly one month at theetemb recording so September twelfth through the fourteenth September July next month, Julio, thank you, Kurmin Yes wow, July twelve to fourteenth in Denver, Colorado, the True Crime Paranormal Podcast Festival. Karmen and I will be there. We'll have a little table. I told Laney to put us next to Aiden from Susto please like you better put us next to each other. Carmen, we are partaking in a panel now, no, okay, yes, happening please because I won't be there, let me Yeah, there might be a virtual option. I'll let you guys know, but yeah, but either way, we'll record it back. Okay, I'm gonna mentally prepare myself. I'm already getting high. Now you have a month, Yeah, you have a month. Yeah, We're gonna have a little table there. I will have stickers with me. Come say hi please because we're gonna be there. 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