The Armero Tragedy with Carmen of Historias Unknown

Hi everyone, This is Christina and Carmen. Yes, no MJ. Today we have our lovely unofficial official guest co host Carmen with us. That's me. By us, I mean me, I don't know why I said us. This Spooky Tees. Yeah, the Collective of the Spooky Toes. Yeah, yeah, this is the Spooky Tales, the podcast for all things as spooky and apparently where we trigger people's ADHD. Well, that's not surprising. Yeah. Someone left a three star review and I was like, WHOA three is pretty good, honestly, Like I mean it's not a two. Yeah, Like I would say, it's like a C and ces degrees. Not me because I don't have one. But yeah, you have one high school. I guess that's a diploma, not a degree. Yeah, there, you don't have one. You're right, I was right, yeah, yeah, sorry, it's okay. Yeah. Someone left the three star review that they like had been this for a year and like that they tried to give us a chance, but we have like too many side quests for a whole year. I'm like, that's a long time. Girl. I would have given up way before. I would give up like two episodes or something. If that same so thank you for drying for so long. That means a lot, and I'm sorry, sorry, we can be better for you. I'm just I am who I am anyway, I just needed to get that out of my chest. Today I'm telling you cartmen about a very tragic, tragic event in Colombia. Oh yeah, I'm going to be telling you about the metal tragedy, the what happened in at Metro Columbia nineteen eighty five. Did that sound familiar at all to you? No? Okay, okay, very tragic event. Also, I'm sorry I still sound very sick. I'm better, but somehow ever, since I got COVID, my my illnesses last like a month and a half or something. Wow, I'm sure you've noticed I have. Yeah, So before we get into that, though, I do have a listener's story, and if you have a story that I want to send into the podcast, please do. You can email a spookyitos at gmail dot com. You can DM it on socials. This was sent in via Instagram. That's always an option, although I do prefer email. I will add because it's easier to keep talk of what I've read, even though I'm also not good at that. Wow. Don't judge me, Carman. Okay anyway. This was sent in in via Instagram titled my brother saw Alechussa. Growing up, we lived in the country outside of Austin. It was pretty solitary out there. We had a neighbor that was a little wayte from home. My mom was in Mexico, so at the time it was only my brother and my dad at home. My brother smoked cigarettes and was either too lazy or too scared to walk out to the front door. One night, he opened the window and put a chair outside to use as a step. It was around eleven pm. He said he was outside smoking when he heard a whistle come from the direction of the neighbor's house. He dan at the nevi He continued smoking when out of the corner of his eye he saw something fly to the backyard and whistled loud. The thing flew over the house and sat directly fun of him on the power line. He said it was huge. It looked five feet tall and weighed down the power line. He took another drag of a cigarette before thinking it's time to go inside. All right, I like how he got one more? Yeah? Right? Try? Yeah? Necessary, very necessary, as he started to climb into the window. The litusa whistled, and he closed the window. It flew by again whistling. He was scared and later told my mom when she returned from her trip. She said the litusa was there because he was up to no good. Of course, leave it to a Mexican mom to be like, well that's what you get, mm hmm, I would expect nothing less, Yeah, exactly. The listeners ended this by saying, that's all Colorine Colorado a s Sequento Sacavallo and I'm like, oh my god, I haven't heard that in so long. Love it. And then she said my grandparents would say that growing up. Love your podcast, Yes, thank you for setting that in. Also love the way that you entered your story. Also, yeah, the lituca was probably there because it was outside smoky. Yeah, yeah, no other reason. I can't believe it was five feet. They say she's huge. There's only one Letusa. Sometimes they say it's one, and sometimes it's like a bunch of which is that, turt Oh, it's because you said they said she's huge, And I was like, well, because there's like the main legend and the main legend that Letusa is huge. But then people also say that Brukha has shaped shift into normal looking owls that are small and they're also let usas mm hmm. Okay, yeah, I think, but this was the main one. If she was five feet tall, I think she was the main one. Yeah. Look at her traveling. She does, she gets around. They all do, they all do. Can you get better? Please? I don't know how. Sorry, there's a lot of poses in between. It's hard to tell because of the editing. But I've been drinking I pause, like ten seconds, drinking water. Just yeah, because my throat has been like two weeks. I'm over it. I'm over it, as are we. Yeah. Someone told me to take vitamin D and zinc every day. Oh I heard that helps shorten colds. Okay, well I gotta start doing that. I gotta do something because I'm dying every other month and I hate it. Yeah. Oh, I also forgot to say, but you can also call r Spooky Hotline and leave your scary story there, or you can record a voice note and email it. Those are options too. Yeah, send in your stories now onto today's topic, lee a mental tragedy. Actually, before I start talking about the topic, you're not on TikTok much. But I don't know if this has made it over to Instagram yet, but there's a sound going around TikTok that's been stuck in my head. Someone goes cut chow and then she starts singing Lagua la lupa. I have not seen that. Oh my god, that's just been stuck in my head ever since I saw it like two days ago. It's still good. The original person is like this Mexican girl. Someone asks her, like where she's from, and she's like that on this soy, that on this soy, and she like wraps herself around a blanket or a robe or something. She says, catchoo and start singing Lagua lap and she turns around and hearing my days on the back of her like cloak or whatever. She be gone. And then people took that as a sound and now they're just like it. It stuck in my head. I needed to get that out of my system before we talk about this very depressing story. Oh man, yeah, it's terrible. After I came here for spookiness, what is this? No, I came for fake spookiness, not for tragedies. So we can just end this now. And I'm leaving good one can't you cannot. Sometimes they're in the speakiness lies, tragedy rides at me. Fine, Fine, I think once I start talking about it, you're going to recognize this natural disaster is what it is. Okay, a natural disaster that occurred in Columbia. And now they say that the town that it happened in is hunted, which I had not heard. Okay, So yes, the admittal tragedy, that's what we're I'm going to be telling you about today. On November thirteenth, nineteen eighty five, the town of Admetro, Columbia and Columbia as a country changed forever. An event known today as latrach at Metro or at metal tragedy took place. And this is when the Nevado del Ruiz volcano erupted. The volcano is eighty miles from the capital of Columbia. Yes, so it's part The volcano is part of the Andes Mountain Range. I'm I'm sure everyone's heard of the Andes. Yes, there's another four closed volcanoes nearby. And we're going to take a trip to ninth grade earth science right now or whatever we first learned about volcanoes I don't remember when that was. I can't tell you. I have it cemented in that it was like ninth grade, because that's when we said torment, poor mysterious. I'm sorry. Yes, you're out there. I hope you went on to have a great teaching career. Anyway. The volcano that erupted in Columbia causing this tragedy, it is part of the Pacific Ring of Fire, and this is a region of the Pacific Ocean that includes some of the world's most active volcanoes. The volcano Nevado de Ruiz is a strato volcano. Do you know what that means? Carmen strato, Yeah, strato volcano. I've definitely heard that before. I remember what that means. No, okay, it means it's cone shaped. Really, that's gonna be the still for the YouTube. The people are gonna start to get the part of the illuminati or something. No, that's like this. Yes, it means it's cone shaped, and that it's made up of layers of hardened lava and volcano eruption stuff. To keep it dumbed down for me and me and yeah, both of us. The first eruptions of the volcano took place one point eight million years ago, and since then it's gone through another eleven eruption stages, which sounds like too many? Who went too many? To me, I was gonna say, it doesn't sound like that much. I don't know. Every time a volcano is like erupting, I'm like, oh, that reminds me. On Twitter lately there's been a Mount Saint Helen's has, you know, appear by my house. Not super close, but there's only two hours away. Yeah, two hours away about okay. They have a Twitter page where they're like so unhinged. They're like, oh, I'm getting ready to explode when the volcano, Oh my god, what a volcano has like activity? And then in Mexico is also having some like activity and they like quote tweet it and they're like, oh Mexico's joining us, Like what the fuck? So yeah, unhinged volcano Twitter pages are pretty fin to follow. So yeah, to me, I mean, like one explosion is already like why are you doing this to us? So this volcano usually only has two type of eruptions, a volcanoan eruption and then a plinion. Is that what I wrote? Plinion? Yeah? I just didn't sound like a real word to me. Again, I'm dumb. Anyway, we're not science people, no, of course not. And I did write down what those were because I didn't know. A volcanoan eruption is a dense cloud of ash and stuff exploding from the crater rising above the peak. And a plinion eruption is also, you know, similar, but it's marked by columns of volcanic debris and hot gases ejected high into the stratosphere. So they just like they look taller. Maybe I don't know. I'm not an expert. Hmm, Okay, I don't know what that means. I mean, I know what a stratosphere is. That's like the second layer of atmosphere that I remember. That's where I know that word from. Yeah, stratosphere atmosphere. Anyway, short eruptions of these kinds, of these types can end in less than a day, but there's like longer eruptions that go on for several days or even months months. Yeah, and those two type of eruptions can cause something called a lahars. I don't know if I'm saying that right, and if I say that wrong this entire episode, I'm sorry again, I didn't look it up and I'm not a scientist, but it's spelled la ha r s And this is a type of mud and debris flow that happens because of the eruptions, Like you know, the eruptions happen, they melt things up top and then like everything flows down. But what makes this volcano even more deadly is that it's snow capped, so like it's ice at the top has snow, and so these eruptions can be so bad that it melts that snow and that's like tons of snow, right, Oh, okay, And that's what happened here. The flow melts the ice or snow, and then it adds water to the lahars, and then the volume and speed of the lava that's coming down is faster and more because of the melted snow. And this is exactly what happened on November thirteenth, nineteen eighty five in Admeto, Columbia, four lahars formed and they came down thirty miles per hour onto the nearby towns oh Man. The towns of Armeto and Chinchina were the most affected because they were closest to the volcano, with Admeto being the worst off of those two. The town of Admeto had a population of twenty nine thousand at the time. More than twenty thousand died when the volcano erupted. How much twenty thousand and they had a population of twenty nine thousands. Oh man, So nine thousand people survived. Yeah wow, that's like almost the whole town for most of them. Yeah yeah wow. And then in Changchina, three thousand people died. Welcome to our Hunted break. 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If you cannot support us monetarily, then you are not missing out on anything. The best support that you can give us is just listening to our episodes here, So thank you for doing that. If none of that sounds familiar, like you still don't recognize this tragic natural disaster. I'm almost sure that everyone or almost everyone, has come across the very famous picture of a girl who passed away in Amero, and I'm gonna describe it, but I'm also going to send you the picture. It's very jarring. It's a very impactful picture. So a little girl, she's in the water slash debris and it's basically her waist up that's visible, and she looks like she's holding onto a branch and her eyes are black does that sound familiar? I don't think so. Wow. Okay, let me send you the picture. I'm almost sure that you've seen it. I would be really surprised if you haven't seen it. Oh God, have you seen it? No, you have not seen that picture before. No, I'm surprised. I guess if somehow you like end up in some like fucked up sub reddits or like, I don't know, stuff like that, then you have come across the picture. Unless you're a better person like Carmen. I mean, I guess I'm just wholesome. Yeah, yeah, I had seen the picture before, and I'll put it in the video on YouTube. But also I like, I feel if you about sharing it Instagram, but I think I'll share it in a slide of pictures pertaining to this episode, so that it's not the first one, because it's it's jarring, it's disturbing, and she's passed away already in the picture, very close to passing away. Yeah, like her last moments of life. Oh man. And that little girl in the picture is Omayra Sanchez Garson. She was born August twenty eighth, nineteen seventy two and died on November sixteenth, nineteen eighty five, two days after it had been on November thirteenth. So Omaira lived in the neighborhood of Santand with her parents Alvaro Endrique, he was a rice collector, and then Maria Aleva, along with her brother Alvaro Enrique and her aunt Maria Adela Garson. They all lived together in their house. When the volcano erupted, she and her family were scared and worried and awake. They couldn't sleep because they heard it happening. Because it was like, I want to say, the afternoon when it first erupted, and then like it got worse and worse, and by eleven PM that's when like the lahars all came down. I have the timeline written down later. So they were awake and worried. They could see ashfall from the eruption from their windows like and they were looking when suddenly they heard roaring from the lahar flow approaching them. The flow went through their house, destroying it. And when this happened, Amaida became trapped under the concrete of the house. Oh my god, and she could not free herself for the first few hours after that last Lahars came through, she was completely trapped under the rubble, but rescuers saw her hands sticking out. That's when they knew she was alive. But they presumed everyone had died, so they spent the day clearing tiles and wood, and when she seemed to be free, rescuers tried pulling her up because it looked like she was good, like, okay, we moved all the stuff, let's pull her up. Right when they tried pulling her up, she seemed to be stuck. Also, the water would pull around her and rise, so that every time they pulled there was more water. Oh wow, And then if they let go, she was more submerged. Then they couldn't let go because if they let go of her, she would drown because that's how much water was pulling around her. But they were like, we can't pull her out, and we can't hold her forever like So then they ended up put a tire around her so that she could stay floating so the water wouldn't submerge above her, but she was still stuck. They couldn't get her out. Divers finally were able to go and check what she was stuck on, and they learned that her legs were stuck underneath a door made of bricks as well, and this is terrible. Her aunts, her tias arms were around her legs and her obviously her had passed away in that position. Oh, oh my god, truly dreadful. And then the way that her knees were or her legs were stuck, it was like in a kneeling position. Her knees were, you know, bent back behind her, like she was kneeling, and the door was over her legs, and then her aunt was underneath that, griving onto her legs. Oh my god, truly truly dreadful. Doctors were worrying that in pulling her up they would break both her legs. But also they thought maybe we can amputate her legs and then get her out, but they didn't have any equipment to even try that or to treat her because like it could cause infections amputating someone underwater. Like they're like, how would we even do that, We've never done this, Like there's just no way. Yeah, they didn't have the equipment, so there was no way to get her out. They could do like nothing but watch her die, which is it is terrible. After sixty hours stuck like this, she died either due to gangreen or hypothermia. Oh my god, that's so horrible. It is it is such a horrible way to go. It sounds so painful. But while she was trapped, she was so optimistic. She was singing, She sang to a journalist, she asked for candy, she asked for soda, she laughed, she prayed. On moments, obviously she was scared and cried as well, but everyone was shocked by her spirit. But by the end she began to hallucinate, telling others she didn't want to be late for school. I almost cried when I saw that, just because one, I'm a little bitch and I cry for everything. But two, that is just such a I mean, she was a child, you know, and that's like such a little kid thing to just I feel like crying right now, I know, I feel like crying. Oh it's such an innocent yeah, hallucination slash thaw. Like in her last moment, she's like, oh, I didn't want to be late because like, oh, it was just stirbye and so sad. And then she also was worried about a math test. Again, just such innocent thoughts in the end, like math test late for school, yeah, and then she also asked rescue workers, journalists, volunteers like everyone to leave her so that they could rest, because nobody wanted to leave her side like they wanted to be with her, and she was like, no, you guys need to rest. Like even in her last moment, she was thinking about others, like it's just so, it's so sad. And then by the end, like in the last moments, her eyes were red then black as you see in the picture, her face was swollen, her hands had whitened, like they could tell she was going. And then on November fifteenth, teen eighty five, a French reporter, Frank Fournier, landed in Bogota. He then traveled to Admero. Then he reached Admero dawn of the sixteenth, so like La Maldrugada on the sixteenth. Yeah. As he arrived, he noticed the town was so quiet. He in his own words, he says, it was very counting, and there was an eerie silence broken only by screams, oh my god, which sounds horrifying. I don't know if you ever came across. And this is like a I'm sorry, this is a side quest or whatever, But there was this video going around Twitter. One of the many nights that Gaza was bombed. It was one of the first nights that electricity everything was shut off. And the next day video surfaced and you can see nothing but like orange in the distance and then just like this piercing, wailing earth guttural scream, and I I just think that that's probably what it sounded like. And God, that's like stayed in my brain even like talking about it now, it's like crying. It was so that was so painful, so horrifying. Let me go on before I started crying. As he was arriving into Admittle, a farmer pointed out where Omaiya Sanchez was. That's when he went over there and he took that hunting image that we have. I'll seen now because I showed it to you and I'm going to share it on our Instagram as well. Maybe I don't know, I feel ify about it. And so he states that he took the photograph feeling that he could only report properly on the courage and the suffering and the dignity of this little girl, and in his attempt to polemicize the disasters need for relief efforts. Yeah, I have said this already, but like, I want to note that I feel weird about the picture myself. Yeah, I see what he's saying. Yeah, but it is disturbing, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. So some people called him a vulture, that he was just looking to exploit the situation. That's almost what it feels like to me. But like, I get it. There's nothing they could do. There was nothing. She was stuck. Colombian didn't prepare for this properly. Yeah, they didn't have the resources to get her out. Maybe if they would have had the resources to get her out, she wouldn't have been in the situation in the first place, and maybe sharing the image of her last moment would horrify the government into preparing and preventing a tragedy like this. I don't know if that's where his mind was or if he was like, I'm going to make money off this picture, right, because this is a white man, like a French white man. Yeah, which is why I feel more like, if you about it, like if maybe if a Native had taken the picture, I would feel better about it. But I look at it and I'm like, it just feels wrong to have photographed this girl's last moments like this like an invasion of privacy. Almost, yeah, which is also why I almost don't want to share it. But it's widely searchable now it's a very very well known picture. He did respond to the criticism. Oh, also, I was going to say, her brother and her mother did survive this tragedy, this disaster, and I would hope that he had asked permission and maybe compensated them for whatever amount he made off this picture. I mean, that would be a step in the right direction. Do we know how they feel about the picture at all or know? I could not find that information. I was looking to see if he either gave them some money, or if he asked for informassion, or how they feel about it, and I could not find anything except that her mom did say she was distraw obviously this is her daughter, but that she has to keep on living for her son, the only living family member of this tragedy. He lost a finger, but alive, you know, and so she's like, I had to keep living for him. I did find that, but I couldn't find anything else about the picture except his thoughts. When he was called a vulture for taking the picture, he responded with, I felt the story was important for me to report, and I was happier that there was some reaction. It would have been worse if people had not cared about it. I believe the photo helped raise money from around the world and aid and helped highlight the irresponsibility and lack of courage of the country's leaders. So like, at the same time, I can see that yeah, but again, I mean I I really said it like it it feels icky, Yeah, but she did. She became the face of the tragedy and many were already blaming the government for it, and her story further fueled that sentiment. And I think I I kind of alreadys said this, but this is a quote from a newspaper at the time, at gempost Enable the newspaper in Colombia, and so translated it's Colombia. Half the world remained with the better sensation that Olmaida Sanchez could have been able to continue living after remaining for almost sixty hours trapped from head to toe amidst the rubble of at middle. Her face, her words, and her courage, which streamed throughout the world on television and were a heartbreaking image in the largest newspapers and magazines of the United States and Europe remained a testimony of accusation against those who could have the very least made the tragedy less serious. That that sentiment of like blaming the government is not far fetched at all. There is a reason for it. Since nineteen eighty four, geologists, geologists like plural beg got noticing seismic activity at the volcano. Since wh I'm sorry, nineteen eighty four, the year before, the year before, Yeah, a month before the tragedy. In October, scientists published a report on the volcano for government officials, and their report stated that the risk of a Lahars happening was unusually high, and they also included simple techniques in their reports to prepare for a Lahars event. This report was ignored. Oh my god, so yeah. And then on top of that, also in October, there was a hazard map that was finalized at the end of October, far too late. A hazard map was finalized, but the map never reached the people that needed to evacuate the most, the people closest to the volcano. That map that was supposed to show them like this is where lava is going to flow through, and whoever's in these zones needs to go. And they never got that map. Wow. Many survivors told reporters like, they never knew this map exist there, They never saw it, they never received it, So they didn't know this was going to happen. They had like no warning, even though the scientists or whatever they were told the government with time and plenty of time in advance. Yes, precisely. And then so that map that they never saw, that only some people saw, but not the people that needed to see it. It came far too late, and it also wasn't accurate. On top of that, it made the hazard zone seem smaller than it was. And the map, you know, as maps tend to do, had various colors, but there was no key to tell people what was what. Oh my god. So even if they would have gotten in time, they wouldn't have understood it or would have made sense exactly. Yeah. And then the map also placed ad middle, the town with the most casualties, in the green zone the save zone. So it was wrong. Yeah, and I'm laughing at the audacity, not at the snow, of course. Insane. Yeah. On the day of the eruption, just three pm, the area was announced to be evacuated. Upper upper ups in the government of Colombia told people in Atberle, like the government of Arberl, the mayor or whatever, that they needed to evacuate. But those local officials, instead of telling people they needed to evacuate, told people to stay in side and stay calm. Wow. And then around seven pm the Red Cross of Golobiak again told local officials of Admero that they needed to evacuate, but the message was not It didn't go past that like it stayed with the locals. Again local officials, my bad. They didn't pass on the message. They again repeated for people to stay inside and stay calm the mayor of Admero. People later told reporters that the mayor told them he didn't think it was going to be that big of a deal, that there was no danger. Wow. At some point during the night, electricity and communications were cut off completely because there was like a storm at the same time, I guess. And then at eleven thirty pm, this was the first lahars. A huge streaman water swept through Admero, and then the two other lahars followed, which further destroyed the city, the town and the whole like eruption, Lahars coming down. All that lasted two boy five hours, my god. Buildings collapsed, crushing people in their paths, causing debris to rain down, Like got on top of that, because that's like the other danger, like not the waters themselves, but then as buildings start falling, things start falling, yeah, from said buildings, those that were in the lahars path directly. The Lahar came down with boulders and cobbles from the volcano itself, so it would have crushed anyone in its path. Whenever the Lahars slowed down, it was still it still contained sharp stones that would have caused lacerations. Oh wow. Anyone that was in the Lahar's path would have either been crushed, would have been cut by all those sharp stones. Mud would have moved into any open body parts, wounds, ears, ies, mouths like horrendous, horrendous, Oh my god, that's horrible. Yeah. And so the pressure of that mud is so fast that it almost immediately causes traumatic asphyxia, so immediately choking U huh, choke or drum I think it's like yeah, yeah, save me the same yeah, and it would happen, That would happen in one to two minutes. Oh my god, it was that fast. And this was the second or is the second deadliest volcanic disaster of the twentieth century, the nineteen oh two eruption of Mount palat that's the first, and it's the fourth deadliest volcanic eruption since the fifteen hundreds, wow, which is like insane. Yeah, and the deadliest lacre of all time apparently. And then Colombia's worst natural disaster to date at Meto. The town itself was never rebuilt after the tragedy. It became a ghost town whatever remained of it. Papa ju No, Pope John Paul the Second flew over a metal when the happened, and then he went to refugee camps and he declared the site a holy land. And like Columbia, like a lot of Latin America, is largely Catholic. That's probably why he felt compelled to go. And because the people they didn't receive a proper burial, which is a big deal. Oh yeah, in like religious settings, which is just it's still heartbreaking, and I'm like, I'm sorry to keep bringing this up, but it's just heartbreaking to think about, even more so in the context of like, what's happening in Gaza? Yeah, I mean, because this was a natural disaster and what's happening right now in Gaza is a genocide. So and I laugh because people are refusing to see that the audacity. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, and mag mass Graves is what ends up happening. But these people were like not even buried at all because it was just all crushed by the hars or you know. Yeah, and you know, like I said, it's a ghost town. And of course the ghost town is said to be haunted, which I didn't know. And I knew about the tragedy and all that, but I didn't hear stories of it being haunted before. So it's allegedly, you know, people that have been there have heard disembodied lamentations, disembodied screams, especially in what remains of the first floor of the hospital. People that have been there and experience paranormal activity in the area, they don't like none of them said that these ghosts are like trying to scare them on purpose. It's just like people crying for a proper funeral, which would like allow them to you know, have closure. In the VN. Yeah, and there's a story that a person was traveling and they made us stop in that middle for some reason out of pure curiosity apparently. And he took pictures while he was there with the cell phone, and there was a house in ruins that read had a sign that said tribute. A few days later, he looked at the picture again and there was a image of a man underneath the arch of the entrance of the house, and his nose and mouth are like covered with some kind of scarf. He believes it's one of the people that died a metal that showed up in its picture. I feel like this episode has gone on. I sound more congested and I'm sorry. Yeah. In April of this year, twenty twenty three, there was a TikToker that went to a medal, and so the TikToker that went over to ad medal is Paulina. But she went over there to do a vlog and during her time there, she kept hearing noises while she was walking around, like strange noises that did it sound humid? Wow. Apparently she heard at some point like the voice of a little girl go SIPs. Oh my god, I don't like it. I don't like it at all. Yeah, she's walking by a building and and it's like obviously in ruins and as she walks by, you can hear in the video pips. Obviously this could be like easily easily doctor or added in. But yeah, her friends recording these cimps, but her reaction seems genuine. She seems truly scared. Do you want to see it? I'll send it to you. Yeah, came mortally Na just MOI prospera e s Estadiana the or the plata a shadow christmasssster America. She hears it, I didn't hear. She replay it on mb okay good economic one instances a Ki friends must Estagian complete and ico. Okay. I think she said that she heard that something fell inside that little building. Oh, that's what it is. But then later she says, I sounded like someone and that's when she heard. Oh, and she walks away like fast from it. Yeah, I mean she's clearly startled. I don't know, I don't know she is startled. Yeah, but yeah, I will put that in the episode as well to see if anyone else can like hear, because I don't think we hear it. I don't think it's like the is visible. I think she just says she heard it. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, that is I wanted to find more paranormal experiences in the town, but I think just even finding that people hear things, and this specific one was like, I'm surprised that I've even found that. So yeah, yeah, that was the tragedy of our middle That was awful. Truly, all of it was tremendous. Yeah, and I'm sorry to put you and everyone through it. But you know what, We're gonna be all right. You know why because there's worse things happening. Oh no, because we have lubera. I aren't see any with the right tone. It's it's lubera. Know that I was missing the clap. Yeah, you have to clap to really get the feel of it. M Yeah, that's why I writ no thing's so terrible. Yeah. But but before we go, do you have any spooky recommendations? I do. Actually, I just finished a horror book, The Queen of the Cicadas, And thank you for telling me how to pronounce that word in English, because when I was reading the title, I was saying cica lasas. Yeah. Yeah, they're not in Spanish either, no, so ras yes, yeah, I was about to look it up. It's a book by vcast show, who did a book club episode on the Haunting of Alejandra, and I read another book of hers also, Damn, you're like knocking books out. What's going on? Well, I read the one I'm just gonna mention right now, like earlier in the year. Oh, what was that one called? Damn, I don't remember what it's called. I don't remember. I do mention it. I think in one of them, you have to say it. I have a hold on. Let me see. It's the one was like the Goddess of oh, Goddess of Filth. Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, that's what it's called. So I really like her horror books because they're like really fast paced and the spookiness starts like almost right away, and I don't mind it. But they're very similar where it's like a mythical like Aztec type spirit oh or god or goddess that is from and it's like the goddess is from like another universe or world, right right, It's like all of the three books have that in common. It's like she found her thing and she just yeah, I'm like, she found her niche and like stuck to it, but they're still different enough or it's like it's not the same. But I really liked it. I have been wanting to read those they're on our lists to read, but we just take so long to read that I'd reread it. Oh my god. But you know what I was thinking, because I don't read a lot of like smutty books. Oh were you like? It was fine. It didn't make me like uncomfor Royan. It just reminded me though, of your episode that's so fucking hilarious that I re listened to when I need to pick me up shout out lady, Oh my god, Like I think that's our most listened to episode now. That shit is so funny. It's because everybody who listened to it, it's like probably real listening to it because it was just it's so funny. Yeah, oh my god. I honestly I read it, but I only like, I didn't pay attention and it was like, oh, it's just a story. It's a little creepy. But to me when I first read it, I was like, I mean, it's a little weird, this funniness. But but then once I was reading it aloud, I was like, oh my god, I didn't realize how this muddy it was, Yeah, but only that that was cheesy, smutty, and in the book it's not che normal, like it's normal yeah, because I mean I've read other books and then they, you know, they're like like the story you shared where they describe things like super like what the fuck? Like no one talks like this, Yeah, people keep mentioning, and I think it was all over book talk. It was what is her name, Sarah, Sarah J. Moss is in like her book, it's a quart of thorn and roses. It's like a series. I don't know that is it's like a fairy. I'm saying it's all wrong because I read the first two and then it couldn't get past that. You read the first two books in the series. I read the first one and then I started the second one. Oh, and then I stopped the second one because it was just ridiculous to me. But so many people love it. It's it's like they were like, oh, it's so sebmody, blah blah blah. And it's just the way she the way she describes it, like his throbbing member, and you're like, oh my god, velvet rot oh my god, it's like that, my god. Yeah, so when it's too much, when it's like ridiculous, they're not like, yeah I had saved. I don't think about it, but I don't remember how to where it was. Oh so there's a little bit of that in the book. If that's not your thing, you probably won't like it. It was fine, though it wasn't as bad as it could be. Yeah, it's just repetitive, like those same words. But yeah, there was this thing that was like a comment that I found on Reddit that someone was like, if it's your first SJM book, then you'll find it. Like the spicy scenes are like good, but then once you start reading the series, you realize how repetitive they are. She uses velvet wrap steel a lot, and like thunder and lightning velvet clothe rod. Oh my god. Okay, so then there's a I don't remember which book it is, but she she describes Amember as a steal encased in silk. Wow. Oh man, just yeah, it was like it's repetitive. So I was just like this is And also I felt like the main girl was like the typical, like manic pixel like other girls. Oh not like other girls. I don't know. They're the same thing. Actually, no, they're different where it's like, oh, I'm so ugly and all my sisters are better than me. Oh but why do these ferry men all love me? Why are they obsessed with me? That's not like other girls? Okay, okay, yeah, it was like that. It was like that. I don't know. I think it's better. I mean, if it's your thing, that's good. I hope that you enjoy her books because she has a lot. She has a lot. So, but that's why I couldn't get past it anyway. I don't think I have any Oh no, I don't think so. I haven't been I've just been listening to re listening to Midnight Burger. Really, the only things I've been doing is listening to podcasts. I haven't even been watching anything. And then on top of that, the only podcast that I've been listening to is Midnight Burger. I finished in the season three finale just came out. And then aside from that, I've been binging the part guests that we talked about carmon geo what is it called geopolitical? Oh yeah, geopolitical economy. Yeah, and then the other one Empire files. So yeah, I haven't. I haven't been consuming anything spooky at all. But I will again repeat my same recommendation as last time, because I feel like more people should listen to it, but horror story specifically, look for episodes I've worked on. The most recent one is the Heaven's Gate one that I worked on. I listened to that already. Oh good good. And then my favorite one though is probably uh, I don't even know. I really liked it what I did on the Signal, And I say I did when I really I wrote it and like researched Edwin records and edits and like does the sound design for them, but signal broadcast intrusions. I think it's called it's like when people, Yeah that one was fun, that was that one was a fun one. But but yeah, I mean people should check that out. But yeah, that's that's my recommendation. I think anything else to add before we go? Do you have anything to plug? Oh? Iltill say no, I don't, so, but yeah I do. If you like Latin American history that you wish you learned about in school, or you know, just topics like that that are overlooked and not known about, then you can check out the Studios Unknown with me and Christina, and that's why it's called these Studios Unknown. Yes, and then if you're into novellas, we also have a novella rewatch podcast, Novacito, and sometimes we talked about like pop culture celebrity stuff, so that's fun and our she's Maken Gazito segments. Yeah, yes, yeah, yes, and thanks Carmen for filling in today for MJ. She's not feeling well, so let's send her well wishes, warmest regards, sanat bitch. Yeah yeah, let's send her all that. And they have one more thing to plug, and that is for everyone to visit Seasfired Today dot com and do what you can. Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes, thanks for listening. And I don't know, don't smoke outside after eleven PM because the LITERUSU is gonna get you. Yes, thanks spooking you. We'll catch everyone next time. Bye bye. 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