M-m-m-my Llorona!

I mean, are you ready? You have to deliver? Is that too much pressure? Oh? Yeah, it's a lot of pressure. Are you ready? I think we're just gonna go with the classic story. Hmmm, that's fair and what it is, what it used to be when you were kids, when you were kids. Well, maybe not you, because you're probably not familiar with this. No, we know what I was familiar with. Marilyn Manson Bigfoot. No, Marilyn Manson sucking his own dick. Welcome to Scary Mystery Surprise, where we talk about scary things that surprised us around the Internet. I'm Edwin, I'm Michelle. I also had a recovered memory from our last episode, you know, the Great Masticator. Yeah, I do remember kids on the playground being like do you masticate? And then you'd be like no, and then they'd be like you don't chew? Yeah, I remember those types of things. The show breaks up a lot of trauma for me. I think I remember something just extra weird. I don't even know what word. It was, just like do you have gluetioles or some weird you know, Like, what are you talking about anyway? Kids? No, I don't. It's just things like that. I little kids, little kids, But I remember, you know, as a little kid, getting these stories like ghost stories like this, like like you oh Na, and these lit little tales like Kukui and like there are things that are just meant to scare you. At least that's what I thought it was. But there's always like that one person who knows, like oh, always someone who's older than you and apparently wiser. But then you get older and you realize that that they didn't know shit, that they were lying to you. It just is that kind of thing where you just believe everything. I think I told you once about the thumb guy who pulled off his thumb supposedly in a garage. Did I tell you that story? I don't think. I know you didn't tell me that story. We were having these yard sales and I was a kid around my block and I was like, I'm gonna walk around whatever. So I went by myself, thinking, oh wow, I'm gonna go by myself to buy something. I had five dollars, and my mom said to go four houses down, come right back, okay, cool, I go. And the first one where I stop, I see like this set of old video games or whatever. And this one guy here is this older guy sitting in the corner and he's just like, hey, you want to see something? And I was like yeah, and he just he did that magic trick where you pull off your thumb huh. And I was like, I freaked out and I just ran back and that was it. That was like I just stopped going it like I'm gonna go with my mom next time. And it was so scary. But then again, it was that magic trick. But I saw it wiggle in his other hand, but I'm like, was it it was his other creep me out? But oh, I'm really glad that story didn't go another way. I thought it was gonna be some weird Do you want to come to my car? Ye? Just I'm so glad that it was just the thumb magic trick. I'm so happy. I'm just like, yeah, yeah I do hell yeah show me. Yeah that could have gone really bad. Yeah wow. Yeah, No, it ended pretty well. It ended as well as could be expected with the thumb magic. Oh man. But all right, jell, so since we're happy, right, yeah, I'm gonna tell you a sad story. Oh perfect, perfect, bring down that mood, bring it yeah, Okay, so this is probably one of the saddest stories I heard as a kid, Oh God, and it also creeped the hell out of me. This story of la or like they say here in America, the wailing woman. You know, those kids at the supermarket who cry because their mom doesn't get them the yeah, like a tantrum. Yeah, and they're just crying whatever. Like if I was to see something like that, I would just say, oh, look at that. Your own They say your own or like the male version of it, and and you would say, shut up your ownA. No, it's like you it's just one of those things that you say, but it sounds like a funny thing, like, for example, like somebody who peas a lot you might call them, imagine like the peer or it's like that. It's like you cry, you're a crier. It's like it doesn't require make sense, but it's like that idea. It's like a nickname. And then it's kind of like that funny word. And then it's scary because it's attached to this ghost story, so you don't really use it that way anymore. Wait, there's no peer or ghosts, are there? I don't know. There might be like you start seeing a liquid forming at the bottom. There's too many fluid ghosts. You hear the toilet in the middle of the night, like they don't flush, you just hear the plus I think that sound of the stream going in. It's called the choro in Spanish, which I think is it's so weird because it also means like diarrhea style, like poop choro, which is like a It's like these weird words that you don't say because they're funny. Are we onto something? Are there more? Are there more body fluid ghosts out there? There has to be. If you know of any other body fluid ghosts, please write into Scary Mystery Surprise and we'll read it on the air. You know, there's this podcast that I listened to called Spooky Tales with Christina and MJ. They got this review the other day and it just said I think I read it on Twitter this morning where it said somebody said these stories are chorro or this podcast is chorro so diarrhea. Yeah, it's like that, that's what they meant. But reading that word is just so funny that they actually screenshot it, tweeted about it and like the whole time, I'm just thinking this is such a funny sounding word that it be mean to somebody, and it just it doesn't work. SOOA kind of loses that, you know, because it has that that it's scary, but it has that funny sound to it, right. So but either way, this specific story, the one that I want to share today, is from Mexican culture. There's a lot of them. Has spread around all over the America. Is really because of how like native people moved different regions, how stories spread. When you speak the same language, for example, or well just travel, it's easier in South America from one country to another. Plus watching the same movies stuff like that, the stories is spread. Michelle, suppose you are in Mexico, Okay, and let's say you're a kid, Okay, and you're in one of the Central States, the middle Ish part of Mexico. Wait, in this fantasy, do I know how to speak Spanish or am I still Washington? Michelle? You do? Okay? Okay, you said Spanish and your name is now Mikaela. Okay, that's fine. You live in Dolores Ivaligo, which is one of the pueblos moxicos, which is like a magic town. It's kind of like a tourist push that they have in Mexico. Yeah, super super cool. Love it. I'll live in a magic town. Yeah, you live in one of those. You live in area okay, okay, and they have ghosts, right, So I think that's what makes this super seperful. By the way, one is known for like really creaky things. We should probably do a thing on the Yeah we should. I've never heard of it, so we absolutely should. They have mummies like some type something in the We'll get into it later, but that's what this is. Like how you teased La Yourona for I don't know months, and so now you're going to tease that of the state with the mummies in it in Mexico. It's it's a very interesting spot that Mikaela is living in. Oh yeah, Mikaela is is digging her surrounding so far, she's very into this. So Mikaela, you're with your family, your parents are home from work, and you're doing something for school, like I don't know, or maybe something after schools, like I don't know what your hobbies were as a kid. I think I building a solar system out of styrofoam balls. So you're building a solar system. You have some unfinished basket weaving works on your right side. The sun has set, the fire in the outdoor kitchen is slowly dying down, so it might get cold that night. So you wonder should I go get some more logs and sticks to keep the fire going, or or should I just burn my basket? Hey? There you go? Is that? What? Is that? Not what I'm gonna do? Oh? Okay, okay, never mind, never mind I was gonna say, Or like, do you risk it and risk getting yelled at by your parents because you didn't do it on your own? Which happens down there, Like you're supposed to take care of that fire. So you decide eventually just gonna get the wood. And here's the reason why you're hesitating. Right to get to the stack of wood for the fire, you need to go across your yard and into a tiny shed and that's where it's stored to keep dry from the rain. That type of wood had been collected from the river that's just behind your house, and it was then set the dry in there and that's when you'd be able to use it. So getting there the dark, that's what you're afraid of naturally. I feel like that's a logical fear for me to have. Like a regular imagine a regular backyard here in the US, but it's just completely dark because there's trees, and like, oh, I grew up in a foresty backyard. If I had to go to the back of the yard to get firewood at night, forget it. I would have been like, no, my parents can go to Hell. I don't give it. The rebel Michelle, this is Mikhaela. Mikael is not a rebel, that's true. She's very dutiful. She's being a dutiful daughter. You see. The kids are from around the school and around the town in general. They have talked about a ghost that appears at night. It's a woman who wears a long, glowing white dress and roams along the rivers looking for her children. If you hear her up close, that means that she's far away. But if you hear her from afar, oh, fuck, and she gets farther away, then she's actually coming closer. No. I hate that so much. So you step out right and you're looking around the yard and through the trees toward the river. You're heading that way and that's when you decide to look down at your feet instead of looking around you. Right, So you're just walking. You know the steps, you know how to get to the shed. So you're walking. It seems like a really long distance in the dirt, and you hear animals in the distance and in the trees. Oh, I hate it. So quickly you just get there. You grab four or five logs and you run back. You don't even walk, you're just running. You're like, screwed if I drop one whatever. But as you're getting closer back to the outdoor kitchen area, do you think that you hear her? No? I was so close, not good enough. It's like you can see the warm glow of the house and the kitchen and you're almost there, you're almost safe, and then the sounds there like you kind of hear it in the distance. Oh no, she's crying. Oh no, and she says something like this, ah may see her. So now this doesn't mean anything to you, right, because it's wow, it just sounds creepy, But like you didn't hear like these words like they're kind of blending in together. The streams are becoming into just cries, like she just sad and it's loud, right, and what she's actually saying in English is my children, Oh, where are my children? You? Basically, this is gonna be a cliffhanger. We don't know if you made it or if you've Oh no, you're just gonna leave me suspended in the dark, and I will never know if I make it or not. No, let's just say that you made it. You went inside, you kept the fire going be lined, and then I was like, I'm never going out there again. Fuck you, mom and dad, Fuck you. We're getting a heater. We're getting an electric heater. Why do we even have a fireplace? Why? Why did you make me do that? You turn into a rebel, start listening to rock, dye my hair. All sorts of things happened after that. It's you change your name to me. Yeah, I changed my name to Michelle. I moved to America. I learned all about Marilyn Manson sucking his own dick and how to masticate. And that's my origin story. Oh man, that's how the legend goes, right, Like children telling others about watching for this ghost that roams around the streets that they swear that an uncle of theirs has seen it and one kid, usually the weird one, telling you that, telling you that he knows. He might even like just make it up and say, oh, I actually spoke to her and found out the real reason, but I'm not allowed to tell you. And that was that kind of person had You have to be cool and then he'll tell you, even though he's the weirdest one of all. Yeah, that he swore is he's not gonna say anything. Just keep your secrets, weirdough, we don't want your secrets. Get out of here, Just get well. I used to walk to school when I was a little kid. I was like seven or whatever, and I used to walk back sometimes with a couple of friends who lived in that same complex. And one of them said that one time when we were passing by, he heard the devil singing a song, and I believed it for some weird reason. I'm like, come on, man, I'm seven years old. I should be better than this, But I still believe it. Cut yourself a break for being seven. What song was the devil singing? I'm just curious about. I don't know. Actually I remember the lyrics that he made up for it. Huh. The translation It was just literally I am the Devil. I am the Devil, and the Devil is the best. Like, literally, I want this recorded because literally he said the song said, I never told anybody this. I wonder why that hasn't left me since well, because it's fucking hilarious. But also, the devil has access to anyone and everyone. He's not gonna he's not gonna go to like I don't know, he's not gonna go get Paul McCartney to write him a better song than that. Come on, what the fuck that is a seven year old's brain? My god, Endrique, if you're listening to this, we're calling bullshit on your your double song. Oh man. But I remember like him telling the story, you know, in the playground, and we would get a little circle going. It would be like yeah, and then they would ask me, did you hear I'm like no, what I want to I passed by there every day or whatever. Oh man, that's hilarious. But yeah, the devil has access to every and all artists that have ever existed. Why on earth would his song be so like it would be like one eight hundred cars for kids or something like that, Like it would just be that maybe it is maybe it's that catchy. It's never left your head. It's just yeah, it's all the eternal jingle, the eternal jingle. That's it. That's it. Wow, the greatest trick the devil ever played. What's the eternal jingle? That's how sticky these things are when you're a kid. I mean, I don't want to say that this legend is a kid legend, because it's there is intially real changes that have been made to towns because of adults hearing the ghost. Right, really, so you see this legend like in general, right, it's the spirit of a woman who roams the streets, rivers, lakes and is all over towns and cities pretty much all over Mexico. And she's crying over a crime that she committed, and that's the murder of her own children. So there isn't a single story. These get adapted to where you are, and I think the main story that surrounds the tale, for example, in Mexico City is this one. And this is actually written right, So guenta a legenda, I mean, the those they and then in certain some timee fancy like life translation here right, So oh okay, legend has it that in the mid sixteenth century or mid fifteenth century. During the nights with the full moon, the neighbors of Mexico City would wake up and suddenly hear the loud cries of a woman, one that would scream, oh my children. The figure was dressed in white with a veil that covered her face while she roamed the streets of the city, heading toward the edge of a river where she would disappear. They see that the woman, upon being left by her husband, decided to drown her children in the river. Ever since, she cries over what she did, grieving and restless in regret, as she roams the streets of the city. There are people who confirm that even today, you can hear her sad cries back in your town. So's go back, Mikaela. Here, she's back, and you're back in Yeah, in your town. The lord in Juanato, And that's what people were going through. Right, this is real, right, They suspect it was around the eighteen fifties or even before very first recorded record of this, especially in eighteen fifty, but they were saying citizens of this town were complaining that there was They would hear the sounds of cries in the middle of the night and they would wake up, Oh god, you know, and it was such a big thing that actually brought people from the Vatican and they try to do an exorcism to try to get the ghost out of the town. Priests from neighboring towns were coming by. They were like, what is going on? Why do people keep complaining about this? What is it? So they were like, Okay, we got to do something. So they put up a plaque on her tomb to suppose it to him. And you can actually find that crypt like a real one. It's located in an estate called Aci Realis, and it's right in that town and you can go to it and visit it and see it and it's right there in the middle of a field. WHOA lots of people have asked like, how did this story get started? Where does it come from? Is it real? Yeah? I'm curious about all these things. And there are many versions about the origins of the legend. What that means is that it makes it really difficult to actually, you know, zone in on one one specific one. Other cultures have, other places have their own versions of a type of whaling woman, versions of what is the banshee I don't know if you agree with that. Yeah, Irish Bandscie. So, like I said, there's too many versions of this to actually zone down, but I think the most accepted one is the one that comes from Bernard Diaz del Castillo, who was this guy who was part of the Spanish conquest of the region in Mexico area what we now know as Mexico. He told the tale of an indigenous woman who was the lover of a Spanish horseman. She wanted to be legit with him, like, you know, make it a real relationship and not just like we're talking or whatever. She wanted to go. He was like, nah, I have higher status. No, he's a Spaniard. What a fu boy telling you. But supposedly she had kids with him already, and it's still not official. So she went a little nuts when she was rejected, basically, and one night she woke up her kids and those in the middle of the night and they're like, hey, you know, wake up, let's go. I have to show you something. Took them to a river. They were young enough to be gullible to go into the river, and that's where she drowned them. And then she was like, oh no, what did I do? Darn it, like I shouldn't have killed him, Like why they didn't do anything? And then she started calling for them. That's it, they were gone. So several versions of the story she looks for the bodies of her children among you know, along the river and can't find them. The other one is she's just regretting, like she's holding on to her babies and she's what did I do? Another one is she killed them, buried them, and then she's still regretting it, like, ah, I killed them. All these little versions of the story. Does she wander around with her children or she's just always looking for it? No, she's by herself, like she's just a ghost. The rumor has it that this story that Bernard was talking about was about ernand Cortes, one of the conquistadors. Oh yep, and La Malinche. Bernald lived along among these people like they knew they were in that same circle, so knew them live in the same area, and they knew each other through the Spanish conquest. Plus that woman was bilingual, so she was translating for them, and she was, you know, known around the area. They say that her soul was doomed once she died because she was not forgiven for what she did to her children, and she now appears around bodies of water searching for them. But the story is so deeply woven into all of Mexico and their generations of people that even your parents will use the ghost story to tell you that if you misbehave, she'll come to get you. Our favorite parenting technique, Paranormal Threats. The podcast Parenting by Paranormal Threats coming this fall. You know, even your grandparents will tell you that, yes, she's real, and they probably have a story about an encounter with her. Could it be true? I guess grandparents always have a way to make it seem true, to make everything seem true. I remember growing up one of my meg grandma actually told me that marionettes come to life at night, so you need to hang them up on your wall properly. Were you just leaving? I'm on the floor. Is that why? Shoot? I think, yeah, yeah, that's why. Because she wanted me to clean this. I would have said this later, right. She said that they extend up and then they try to look around to a place to cling to. Oh that's a horrible story. Yeah, imagine this, and and the way she said it, she was like and a thing to cling to. And then she like stretched out her hands and put them like around my neck, and I was like, ah, they're gonna grab me, like you know. So I was like, yeah, ah, Grandma, that's my origin story right there. This is why. Imagine Grandma told me a puppet was going to strangle me to death, and now I do a paranormal podcast. That's what happens. That's the thing. All these things are true. I think like this is like a weird therapy podcast room is. I get it. I get it. You get to talk about your devil jingle, you get to talk about Grandma's strangling you with puppet or whatever's going on there. It was the creepiest thing. Plus, by the way, I think some people might really relate to this, like they might know what this is like when I was visiting Mexico, like even like last this past month or whatever, whenever it went. There's a different feel to it. Knowing that it's a little bit wilder, it's different. It's a different feel. And I think that when you hear a story about oh La Joora and literally outside of your window is just completely dark, you don't know what's out there. It gets you like it really, it gets you the stories of the actual origin of to where it comes from, no matter like where I searched. People who like historians, they look up actual research like deep ones. They also come back to this at an Ancorte story. The same idea in combination with these tales of dread. Whenever there is a huge change in society, for example, now that we have the virus or whatever, there's all these new fears that get unlocked, or we also start spreading stories a little bit different, like we switch things around. And around that time when the conquest was going on and they were trying to figure it out, what are we gonna do? Like Mexico was so far away from what they call the motherland Spain and people that live there. You already have generations of mixed children right like asa in like you have their parents are from Spanish and Native descent, and they're developing their own culture. So there's a lot of changes, a lot of things. Obviously, people start spreading stories, things get lost in translation. New legends from Europe start spreading in Mexico. You have all these new fears, all these new monsters, coming up, so it started developing into this that really cemented it down. But I think like Dona is one of those stories that has such a like a like ingrained what do you call it. It's such an ingrained story that you grow up with it. Your parents know about it, grandparents know about it, children are gonna they're gonna know about it. That it's like a culture on its own. I think Mexico's doing a really good job in grabbing onto it. They're using it to their advantage too. They're like, you know what this is, We're actually gonna celebrate this. We're gonna make movies about it, We're gonna tell stories about it. We're gonna include her in our legends and including our tours all that stuff. Obviously you're gonna get a lot of fake stories because of it. But also like it's keeping in alivee So I think that's a good part. But anyway, as you grow up, MIKHAELA, uh huh, you also start sharing that story around because it was weird. It was weird, and now I gotta traumatize kids too, that's your reason. Yeah, you got a traumatize It happened to me. All kids should be warned also, don't listen to your parents. So you start sharing it around because it would always, it will always gather a group of people to tell their own stories and share their own encounters. After you tell it one of those things, or did you know that I saw la yodo on now the other day and it's all of a sudden, everybody's oh, really, like I actually heard a sound, and they tell you of the stories and it just gets that circle going. And then you start hearing about their own encounters or the encounters of their uncle's friends, brother's mistress, all these other people that have encounters with this ghost, and we unconsciously keep a part of all of that alive. The history of conquest, a tale of grief and a simple ghost story that became so much more than that. Ooo. That was good. That's the story of Laona Tada. I love it and my favorite character was Mikaela. There's a lot of problems I have with I think the parents in the story. I think I have a lot of I have a lot of it's like the parents fall, yeah, and then I was on a kidnapped by a ghost. You need to call CPS. So Lala Nya doesn't like take children, does she? She just like cries bornfully. Yeah, that's what she does. And they say that like she might. Obviously, one of those tales is that that she finds kids out on the streets at night, and then that's where you got to go into your house. That's why you gotta be not stay out too late, because you might she might grab you thinking that you're one of her children, or she might take you and drown you, or there's so many different stories that go along with it that it can just morph pretty much into anything. She can also be like one of those warnings for drunks, people who are out on the street and they're just like passed out like drunk. Several of these stories. Actually, one of them that I found was about this drunk guy who was coming back from the bar like early hours of the morning, and he saw a ghost and the ghost was wearing a white dress, and all of a sudden, she opened her mouth wide and just said, ah me see. I was like, oh god, it's not like this. It's sad. It's a sad cry, but it's extreme like it's supposed to be this loud ah like you're just you're restless, you're angry, you're sad. It's just like ah, like you're mourning, but like in that evilish way, there's some rage. There's some rage behind it. This drunk guy, also a drunk guy saw had an encounter saw her, and then he told people about her, and then those people that heard the story got taken by Laodonna. Oh that's got like a tinge of the ring to it. You hear this story, you only have so many days to tell the story before you're taken. It's like that you can change it. You can change the story. That's why I like Laodonna. There's other monsters. They call her a monster, even though she's not. She's a ghost. But we're gonna argue. If you want to argue with me, send us an email edone's ready for a fight. Clearly I'll gladly argue. But anyway, that's a story of Laydona. Hopefully you can pronounce it now, Michelle, La yodna li yoda lir na liarona. I did it. It only took us half a year. Layr rona, lay your rona, la your rona. I did it. Now we've finally done the episode. There it is there, it is I was actually practicing before we recorded today. I was like, la, yo, roll, you're gonna hear the recording. How many times you mispronounce it? I just let it go. I say, you keep it in la yeah ro na lay. I mean I was trying lay. Yeah, that's good, that's good. You got it, and look I tried. I don't have ahead for her languages or music anyway. All right, So if you have an idea for us or something that you want us to talk about, send us a message at DM on Instagram at Scary Mystery Surprise. If here's a follow. Also, make sure to tap follow on the podcast too, because people, you know that people miss out on new episodes because they don't know that there's a little plus sign on their app. Sometimes just do it. We're waiting. We'll wait. You got just go do it right now, We'll wait. So what are we talking about next week, Michelle? I don't know, but I guess it'll be a surprise. Oh dang again. I'm kind of getting used to it. So yeah, it'll be fine anyway, Bye, guys. So, yeah,