The Great Masticator

Please consult a licensed dietitian or doctor or whatever. Don't try these things. I don't know what they are, but just don't try them. Welcome to Scary Mystery Surprise, where we talk about scary things that surprised us around the Internet. I'm Edwin, I'm Michelle. It's after Christmas and it's a season of indulgence and inevitably afterwards, the regret of indulgence. So we're entering the season of short lived diets. Well, I did get that notice from the doctor who're like, you have to lose weight. I get that notice every time I go and I never go, ever, go for weight, just like always in there for something totally unrelated. You're going for like you know, a cut, Yeah, like stitches. Oh, you need to lose weight? Okay, cool, Thank you for telling me that I need to lose weight today. Can you just treat me like a person please first and then tell me I need to lose weight. You know, we're blessed to be in bodies that change shape. Mine change is shape. Yeah, mine changes shape all the time, all the fricking time. Trust me, I'd love it if it's shaped a little different sometimes. But I'm pretty happy that it's healthy. I'm pretty happy that it's a healthy, strong vibe. All the food is so good. I shall it's so good food and booze so good and Christmas food. Thanks good, all of it. Plus it's cold and you just want to Yeah, you just want to eat potatoes. I think it's a primal thing because it's cold, so you want to have more weight while it's cold. Don't bears do that? God? The Park Service has a contest every year for the fattest bear. Oh, it is the best and you get to vote who the fattest bear is. I think this year's winner was named seven forty seven or something like that. I don't know. It's the best season of all the seasons, is fat bear season? There is a contest that I like, Fat Bear Season. I'll definitely post about it next time it's happening. That sounds like a cool contest though about the bears. The fat bears, Yeah, fat bears. It doesn't make sense though scientifically, like, yeah, so you put on all this weight during the winter ivan for bears, they go to sleep after and they hibernate, yeah, and then they don't eat and then they're just come out and they're starving pretty much, although sometimes they give birth while they're hibernating. Isn't that cool? Wow? Yeah, super cool. Bears are cool. I think bears are cool. I should go to sleep after eating that much. Well, wait, I might have a diet for you. Okay, cool, the Sleeping Beauty Diet. You can eat whatever you want on this diet, ranging from deep fried pickles to peanut butter, to bacon to banana sandwiches. This was Elvis's favorite diet. You'd stay asleep for up to twenty hours day. When you're sleeping, you don't eat. He had himself put into a medically induced coma once to avoid the temptation of eating. So you can eat whatever you want, but then you got to sleep for twenty hours. That sounds great, although he died very obese. I would say the Sleeping Beauty diet is not functional but intriguing. If he's actually dead, If he's actually dead, he is Oh, that's true. If he's dead, we have conspiracy theorists listening right now. So how old would Elvis be if he were a lot or if I don't know? How old is Elvis now? Now? He is eighty seven as of August twenty twenty two. Oh yeah, sorry, conspiracy theorist. Any Southern boy on a Southern diet is not He would not be alive, now, I'm sorry. Granted, it's sad that he died so young, but also he would not be alive at eighty seven when he's eating deep fried pickles all the time. Maybe the weirdest one is the Victorian tapeworm diet. The idea is simple and gross. You take a pill containing a tapeworm egg one hatched. The parasite grows inside of the host akau ingesting part of whatever you eat. In theory, this enables the dieter to simultaneously lose weight and eat without worrying about caloric intake. In theory, it's yeah, and it sounds great. I like it in theory. Yes. Actually, it's funny because this came up again because Chloe Kardashian brought it up like she's like, I should get a tapeworm to lose weight, and so Vice ended up doing an article about it and now just don't do it. So was this a thing? Yeah, people sold these little pills that you'd buy and you take it and and the tapeworm would supposedly help you lose weight. To be fair, you would lose some weight, but then there was a problem of getting rid of the tapeworm because you'd reach your quote unquote desired weight and then it'd be really hard to get rid of the tapeworm. Tapeworms in your body can cause seizures, dementia, and in some cases meningitis, and they can grow so long they block up your intestines and you can die. That sounds terrible. And any case where people say they've lost weight like permanently doing this is an urban legend. It's never ever been proven, but it is pretty creepy because there's a bunch of pictures of people holding up tapeworms, so they look like egg noodles, the kind of long flat noodle. Just eh, oh, it was h makes you wonder about dementia, though. Does everybody just have a tapeworm? Did everybody just get a tapeworm from pork? Hey, that's possible, right, yeah, not great, But a lot of these diets do take place in the Victorian era and then around the time of the twentieth century. The early twentieth century was there was a bunch of stuff going on do you know if anybody uses that today? What tapeworm? Tapeworms? Yeah. I was looking it up and there's like a lot of people who get it in like China from eating like bad pork and stuff like that. Like you can get it from just traveling. It's like still around, but I don't know if people still do it as a diet thing. That's what's it's gonna make your stomach bloat it. That's the thing where it's it's not gonna make you lose weight, like you're gonna get so sick. It's just the way you described it though, like that that Oh, that's so visual. That's why it's called the tapeworm. Yeah yeah, wow, okay, mind blowing. I don't know why I hadn't thought of that. I always imagine them as bean sprouts. They look like noodles and they're like that color too, they're like egg noodle. Oh no, like that white ish Yeah yeah. Moving on, So another diet. In the early twentieth century, there was this guy American food Fattest Horace Fletcher Fattest Food Fattest fa DDT fattest like a fad Oh I thought like fat, yeah, not like fat no fad with a d but Horace Fletcher came up with this novel way of improving digestion and keeping his weight down. The initial philosophy behind this diet wasn't bad, which is like the theme of a lot of things, except for the tapeworm diet. It's not all bad. So his thing was to take your time when you're eating, be mindful of what you're eating, and only eat when you're hungry. Great, that's normal, great advice. Yes, that's normal. However, the main principle of Fletcherism, as it became known, was to chew everything you ate at least thirty two times or until it became liquefied and flavorless. Why would anybody want to chew that? Well, he got the name of the Great Masticator, that was what they called him, and he was denounced as a quack. And that's pretty impressive in the early twentieth century, is that there were so many quacks that like to get denounced as a quack in your own time, isn't there Like, Uh, I gotta admit sometimes I don't chew my food all the way right, It's just I don't know your reason. I don't know my reasoning for it. But it's just thirty two times and that's a lot. Sounds like to start digesting might as well, but it also led to constipation of the most serious kind in quotes, ah, not of the most serious kind. That's the worst. You know, you get to that age, Michelle where you're like, we actually talked to your friends about constipation and you talk about all those things. Yeah, of course, so you think you're never gonna do it, and then hey, can I ask you something, Michelle? I mean, look, there are a few joys in the world than having a big shit in the morning, you know what I mean. Like, it's just when everything's going smooth, life is good. Okay, back to the great masticator fitting. It's a fitting name. I like it. It is. It's the best. So when you do eat slow, it releases a hormone called pyy, which is the hunger suppressing hormone. So technically, by chewing your food slowly, your stomach will tell your brain faster that you're fuller, because sometimes when you eat fast, it can take up to an hour for your stomach to tell your brain that you're full. So you've eaten all this food and wow, Okay, that makes sense. So like those competitive eaters, you have to eat super super fast. It's like double benefit. They eat super super fast and they don't know that they're full, and then oh, that must feel like crap after. I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine the next diet. Cigarettes, that's a diet, that's the diet. Yeah, nineteen twenty two, they really promoted that ultra slim physique. There's like a campaign where it's gets slim with Lucky or something like the Lucky Strike cigarettes. Wow, I didn't know that was a diet thing. Well, yep, cigarettes are extremely bad for you, though. All of these diets could kill you. Fletcherism from your constipation. That would be a sucky way to go. I don't know. Maybe dementia from your tapeworm. I'm not quite sure which is worse. Well, dementia you won't know rightly, Yeah, that's true. You won't know that you have a huge tapeworm in your gut that's just in there. Ugh. It's terrible, a terrible death. Ugh. No, the cigarette one is weird to me. So like you smoke and then suppresses your hunger, it naturally suppresses your hunger. With the I don't know the poisons and a ciger speaking of poison, Arsenic was used. That's a turn, okay. I mean it was used in a lot of cosmetics and as a weight loss aid during the Victorian period, of course, But anyway, arstic can work as a it's like a low dose stimulant, and a lot of people were to where they were taking arsenic. It does help you lose weight obviously while it's killing you. If you didn't know arstic was in your pills and then you're like, oh, these pills are working, I'll just take more of them. You're taking arsenic and you're going to die today nowadays, people you know, sinjecting the fillers and those lips and everything. I'm like, okay, to each their own. You want to do that, go for it. But it's the warning. Thousand years from now, they're gonna be making fun of us. So someone will be making a comment about that in some podcasts. Some podcasts in a thousand years from now will definitely be making a statement about it. Can you imagine what a podcast will look like in a thousand years? Do you think they'll just be people that just like beam directly into your head. That's how it's gonna be. It's just like your thoughts. I think I'm gonna listen to Mark Marron that you just choose what you want that day, and it's just downloaded and you just know the knowledge, all the important knowledge, well all the banter too. You have to download all the nonsense that they say as well. Yeah, yeah, And then there's gonna be this his like historic section where they're gonna find secury, mystery, surprise, and it's gonna be like that was something. It was like a like Wikipedia article, accurate, perfect, We're gonna show up in school reports. Hell yeah, here's another diet. And this gets a little darker because this is the fasting for a cure and this has a whole story behind it. And I think maybe the tone changes a little bit because this actually did result in the deaths of forty people. Here we go, it's cue the music. The little town of Alala, Washington, is a ferry rides away across the Puget Sound from Seattle. It's now mainly a commuter town, but in the nineteen tens, Lala was briefly on the front page of international newspapers. At the center of was a woman with a formidable presence and a memorable name, doctor Linda Hazard. It sounds familiar, but oh, I know, why have you done this story before? Or because I texted you? Yeah, because you texted me. That Hazard turned her Olala Cottage into the Wilderness Heights Sanitarium, and from the eighteen nineties until nineteen twelve she rented the attic to patients who had come to experience her cure. She was not a medical doctor. She wrote a book entitled Fasting for the Cure of Disease, in which she proclaimed her treatment could cure everything from cancer to constipation. Patient's ate one small bowl of tomato or asparagus suit daily for over forty days, long walks, enemas, and vigorous massages or beatings to their face and neck, which were also required one or more times a day. So that was her cure? Did she did? She charged for this? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Any patient could have left Wilderness Heights if they wanted. But doctor Hazard and the cure held a strange for some reason. The cure is capitalized, and I just was like the band emphasized and the cure. Yeah, we loved listening to the the cure and we just wouldn't leave Doctor Hazard, and the cure held a strange power over them. This led to rumors of her having strange powers of the occult. Local farmers watched his patients took daily walks from the cottage to the store and back, and these walks soon became daily crawls quote unquote as the patient's energy dissipated and they slowly grew thinner and thinner. So they're only eating tomato and asparagus soup. Okay, that's terrible. If people around would start seeing each face should get weaker and weaker. The scary part to me, uh huh, is that it doesn't sound that different than for some fasting that are being spread around today. I know, I have a diary entry from one of the patients, and he wrote down what the menu was like. So it starts February first, saw doctor Hazzard began treatment this date. No breakfast mash soup, dinner, mash soup supper. February fifth through the seventh. One orange for breakfast mash soup, dinner, mash soup supper. February eighth, one orange for breakfast mash soup, dinner, mash soup supper February ninth through the eleventh. One orange for breakfast, strained soup for dinner, strained soup for supper. February twelfth. One orange for breakfast, one orange for dinner, one orange for supper February thirteenth, Two oranges for breakfast, no dinner, no supper, February fourteenth. One cup of strained tomato broth at six pm, February fifteenth. One cup hot strained tomato soup night and morning February sixteenth, one cup hot strained tomato soup AM and PM. Slept better last night, head quite dizzy, eyes yellow streaked and red, and then and his diet continued more or less unchanged until his hospitalization on March twenty eighth, where he died that afternoon. So he died of starvation. Okay, that's sad. That's the thing that's so bizarre, right, is that nobody's like you can leave whenever you want, you can leave whenever you want. I don't want to eat just two oranges today again, Michelle, Again, it just like today. It's very sketch. So there were patients who survived and left OLALLA, that did get out and had enough sense to go, but many of them died. How many is not known. Estimates range from two dozen to over forty, possibly higher. Hazard acted as the attending physician to her patients, personally performing autopsies on those who died by laying their bodies on an ironing board she placed over a bathtub in her cottage. So not only is she keeping people in the attic, she's doing autops he's on an ironing board in her bathtub. She didn't she have enough money to buy an autopsyat table, and you'd think she seldom filed death certificates with the authorities and had a special arrangement with a discreet funeral home in Seattle for burials. And conveniently, most of the patients who died left all of their property to Hazard. She made them sign like a thing. Yeah. Few knew that her husband Sam had been kicked out of the army for forgery and embezzlement, so yeah, they're definitely in it together. They were very interested in rich people that had no family. Her two most famous victims in nineteen eleven, these British heiresses, Claire and Dora Williamson, came to Wilderness Heights to follow the cure now I can't stop. I'm just imagining the cure right there and live twenty four to seven. Who wouldn't go seeing their new hit song die Deadly Dot, We're gonna die at the diet. It's nineteen eleven. They're in their thirties, they're both nothing's really wrong with them, but they're just both. One was complaining about a drop uterus and one was like, oh, my glands are swollen. Like they weren't really sick. They're just like, oh, but we could be better, which is a thing that is definitely, as someone who spent some time at a biohacking conference, definitely a thing that you see is people with a lot of money being like, oh, we could be better. Yeah, you know, optimization of your body man, Yeah, optimization, which is what they were into. They had already stopped eating meat and like they'd stopped wearing corsets, which good for them, that's logical. But yeah, basically, they went to La La and they stated her clinic and they lost more than fifty percent of their body weight. Which Claire died, but not before sending a cryptic letter, which I love this part of the story. It was so weird. She sent a letter to her and her sister's former nursemaid in Australia, so like their nanny growing up, and she sent a letter that said something like, please come visit us in Olalla and that's all it said. And then I wrote. Then nanny was like, what the bloomin onion is going on? Hat? So Margaret, their nurse maid, took a steamer to the US and went to Olalla, and when she got there, she was able to save Dora, who was now only fifty pounds. Dora couldn't even sit down, she was in like pain, she was so thin, but she didn't want to leave. And so why because of the spell that this woman put like she's like, you're getting better, You're gonna get well. All the spin that there is, Oh, you have to go through it to get healthy. If you feel like shit, then you're getting better, that kind of thing. Margaret went and got their uncle who lived in Port and so they were able to get Dora out of there. So Dora's health never recovered and she actually went and lived in Australia. I honestly think with Margaret, which I thought was weird, but very sweet of their childhood nanny to come and save them. Why they're nanny instead of like they didn't have parents anymore, so it was like or their uncle. How come they didn't write their uncle. I don't know who was right there, right or who was right there? Yeah, I'm not quite sure. But it also took the British Consulate getting involved because these were two British women to get Dora out of there. So the British Consulate actually filed charges of manslaughter against Linda Hazard for the death of Claire. So she went to jail in nineteen thirteen. Nice just as well. She spent two years there and she claimed that she fasted the whole time to prove her method. She started spreading it around the jail house. Yeah, it's just weird. It's just super weird. Like, hey, guys, I'm gonna tell you about the cure, the cure, the cure. I'm going to tell you about the cure, and why boys don't cry, why I am only in love on Fridays or whatever. What's Friday? I'm in love Friday, Friday love. So she spent less than two years in prison, and then she traveled to New Zealand, where she continued practicing her homopathy She eventually got kicked out of New Zealand because they put in regulations where you can't practice medicine if you're not a doctor. So in nineteen twenty, she returned to Olala and built her large sanitarium and nursing home that she'd always wanted to build, like it was her dream space that she'd wanted for her cure, so she could treat people. And this time, however, local authorities made sure none of her patients experienced the same fates as the Williams sisters, so people were watching her now so there was no more crazy starving people to death. It's hard to tell whether Linda has your plan to murder her patients, which I don't know. That's an interesting thing because it's like she really did believe in this cure, but then she did this cure to rich patients who had money. Oh she looks terrible. Yeah mean, yeah, she looks mean. Look up the Williams sisters because they were like pretty cute, cute women and then they yeah, when you see dor after she's been through this, she's the Williamson sister. Oh what they wanted to lose weight or they had this fasting was supposed to cure whatever's wrong with you, so like like get cancer to constipation. So one of them had the dropped uterus and one of them had swollen glands, so this was going to cure that. Oh no, it's terrible, Like some people swear. Did you ever hear about that lady who would only eat energy from the sun or whatever. I think it's called breathetarian. I think that's what it's called. Honestly, I really do think that's what it's called. So weird, it's so weird. Boy, I feel really bad for those two sisters. The one that survived moved all the way to Australia, right, is that what happened? Yeah, and never really regained her health because you wouldn't because that was like my I kept reading these and I'm like, what the what happened to Dora after? She was like because she was rescued, But I can't imagine she had a good life after seeing a sister starve to death. It's like a horror story. I feel like there has to be a movie on this where they, yeah that there might be. Their experience would be so horrific, like watching people starve to death around you by choice. That's the thing. It's my choice. This isn't because there wasn't enough food. This was my choice. Miche Well, the million dollar question. Were her glands fixed? There was no report and if it fixed her glands or not. But maybe you shouldn't even have glands anymore by the time she left, or maybe her uterus was there, uterus picked up again. We don't even know. Maybe she did fulfill her promise, maybe they were fixed. The thing is that she was a true believer in her cure. She may not have understood the reality of her actions, making her more of a mass murderer than a serial killer. She firmly believed in the fasting cure and that people died because they were beyond hell, so it was their fault that they died. The proof was that Hazard became ill in the nineteen forties and died while taking her own cure. So she fasted to death. Baw justice, justice, But wait, there's some war. So anyway, in the nineteen nineties, a family with two children lived in Linda Hazzard's old house, the Wilderness Heights Retreat. Like the home, so that was still standing in nineteen ninety and it had remained mostly unchanged from when Linda Hazzard and her husband lived there. Creepy, Okay, isn't that weird? And so the family experienced some ghostly phenomenon over the years. Of course, on one occasion, the woman who lived in the house was in the kitchen cooking dinner, and she was facing the stove, which was against one wall, and the bathroom door was behind her. She moved back and forth between the counter on her left and the stove for several minutes, and when she turned around, she saw that every chair in the kitchen and a few from the living room had been piled against the bathroom door. What I thought it was going to be like a ghost peering, like offering an orange, or like have an orange, have a string orange, some tomato soup, strained tomato soup. It's strained tomato soup, so it's even more watery. Imagine though, a crawling ghost. There's just so thin, just crawling. And then honestly I think that, like I have an image of Claire, one of the Williams sisters, crawling away from that farm. So I'm like, why is that? Did I see a movie? Did I read something somewhere where I'm just like, did she have to crawl away to get help and get the letter delivered before she died? Imagine that emaciated figure crawling. What was the what were the farmers calling them crawls? They were calling them crawls because yeah, they'd just get weaker and weaker. Maybe that's why that letter was so short. It's like maybe she couldn't handle it. She just had to slang it or just instead of saying please come visit, it was just like pls se v an irl c M E I r L. And Margaret was like, sure, I'll go, I'll go. Why not, I'll go? Why No, that's still not quiet. It's they do the nearer with their voice. I'm trying to get Yeah, there are err So. Anyway, the woman had been alone in her home at the time, and it's doubtful that someone would have come in, taken the time to sneak in, and silently piled chairs up against the door while she made dinner. Questional behavior for a ghost as well. Why yeah why? But Greg Olsen, the author of the book Starvation Heights, was skeptical, but suggested that if any ghosts were there, the owners might want to close off that bathroom where people once experienced enemas and the hard massages or if they died, they were autopsied there by hazard in that bathroom. And some people say they even had the original bathtub. You don't know, We just don't know. Is an anema what I think it is? Yeah, they do the Yeah, So that was another part of her treatment was it was constant anemas too. You had to do endless animas may pump water into your lower intestine and then you just shit your brains out or ship water out. Basically nothing's going in, everything's coming out. You're not doing well. That's just not good. It's something so psychological, right, Like it's you have to be brainwashed, you have to be which is like what people said is that she had this power over people. So it's like a cult leader. Oh yeah, i'll give you health. I'll give you health. Just come and do as I say. Do as I say, and you'll live a long, healthy life. That's terrible. I can't believe I hadn't heard of her before, like I think because she's a woman in it offbeat, and also her victims were willing to They went there on their own accord, which is also something where it's like, yeah, that's terrible. It's like somebody has an issue, they have a health problem, and then you promise them, yeah, it's gonna work, and then trust a process and if it doesn't work, it's your fault. It's sounds like a cult to me anyway. In the attic where she had treated her patients with the cure, there are several low ledges where the family stored small items, and a psychic once said she saw the spirits of many of Hazard's victims sitting on the ledges, too afraid to even move after death. Wow, and the psychic burst into tears several times over the anguish she felt saturated. The walls of the little house Wow, where the cottage ones was. They call it Starvation Heights, that whole area where the sanitarium and the cottage were like the The locals call it Starvation Heights instead of Wilderness Heights, which she called it. You know, now that the cottage is gone, they don't know if spirits are still there or not, but it seems we will always be hungry for an answer. Wow. I don't want to say anything, because that was a perfect ending. People literally died and people are dying now for stuff like that, and I know it's terrible. I feel sad for those people because they were convinced into doing something like that, but also come on, like they could have left. Could they have actually left? Seems like a lot of them did leave. It seems like some of them were not allowed to leave, like when they were rich and did not have any connections. I think that is when they were held against their will. I know I hate to sound like that too, but yeah, I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist or like one of those people like all those things that happen back then are happening now and it's scary. Yeah, it's not that big of a jump. It's just not. Yeah, And like you said, like all those things that we see back then, we're like, wow, people did that. Wow you made a tapeworm? Yeah, But then like Chloe Kardashian's talking about eating a tapeworm. There you go. The thing is that if you have a healthy body, you're lucky. And that's fine, you know what I mean. I think that's it. Like I think you're very lucky and that's great, and be in to be like really appreciative of that. Healthy, havy body, whatever shape it's in right now. So there you go. A positive message for the end of the year and the holidays. Yeah, although I have started a new diet where I just eat tidepods not encouraged to each of their own. Be sure to rate and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. We haven't done a call to action in a while. Send us a dm over on Instagram at Scary Mystery Surprise if you have an idea for us. Oh yeah, you also reach us via email. It's in a description. We love hearing all your juicy stories. Oh, Michelle, let's let's do one of the responses or something. Oh yeah, we got some reviews, Michelle, this one. We're gonna read some of the recent ones. Hopefully they're good. It says great talk show, slash horrorpod dot dot dot man Apple podcast cuts it off, but probably says podcasts from a Patually drop says right here, they have great chemistry, They're funny and cover topics well do staircases in the woods and backrooms and number stations and la yourna. Also, I haven't heard any faked or forced laughter. I don't know what those reviews are about. Yeah, people just hurt our feelings, man, like thank you because it's not faked or force left and we were just starting out and they're just like it was rough. It was rough, but reviews, reviews. Look at where we are now, I know, look at us. We got almost forty followers. Fuck yeah, we have twenty nine ratings. She's awesome. Fuck yeah. And Liarona is going to be coming up. Wait was I supposed to say that? Yeah, you can say that, I guess. But we won't tell them when Yeah, that'll be the surprise. Yeah, we won't tell them when it is coming up though. Yeah. And Staircauses in the woods. Actually, we're gonna add that to the lead. We're gonna have that. It is. I think it's on the list somewhere. Second review the user I love Scariness with the y. I like that, it says, love it. I love this podcast. It's goofy and entertaining yet spooky at the same time. Michelle and Edwin are very informative in the topics. They speak about, thank you, thank you. I love Scariness, thank you. Really nice message. I like that. And then from our emails we got we have one from Roxanne who says she sent us a really nice email, Michelle, I think I've a forwarded this to you, saying that signed up through Apple Podcasts to the Premium channel, which is good, awesome, thank you, brooks Ann and that says I love the banter and humor on Scary Mystery Surprise. You're very talented. Please keep doing what you're doing. Wow, you're talented, Michelle. We're talented. Yes, Oh that's nice. Yeah, that's super nice. People are so nice to us. I feel like we don't deserve it. It's super nice. It's nice to do a project that people actually like for once. It's someone who's done several projects in their life and never had people actually write nice things ever. Seriously, though, guys, thanks a lot for those reviews and emails. We read every single one and we talk about them. Someone wrote in to tell us what a dead body smell? Like, Oh, that's right, that's right, that's right. That was one of the early ones, wasn't it, like right at the beginning, so maybe September. So here's an email from subject Smell of Death. What episode this is? Must have been after our Hotel Rooms episode? Uh huh, yeah, Hi there. I was listening to stories about dead bodies found inside hotel rooms. You and your co host were wondering about the smell of a decomposing body. I am an embalmer funeral director, so I know that smell and this is so exciting. I love it when we get like an expert writing in. This may sound raunchy, but the best way to describe the smell. It's just worse than the worst fart you've ever cut. Why don't have to be my own fart? Why can't it be? I would say the worst farts are always dad farts. I know, I don't know. Something is just they're older, they've more toxic stuff, like they've just been on earth longer, and you're usually trapped when they fart, so it's like you're trapped in the room or something like that is happening in the car. In the car, Oh god, it's terrible. And then it says, who hasn't been treated to that at least once in life? That's terrible. Or walk down a city street and stop near a manhole cover. It is nasty, rotten egg infused odor. When a dead body is beginning to decompose, the gut bacteria need oxygen to live. When When the circulation ceases, the oxygen stops too, so in a frenzy to stay alive, the gut bacteria starts translocating from the intestines to break out and find air. That's where the decay begins. And as most organisms travel through that they digestive tract. They are dying off and adding to the smell. At the same time, gases of decomposition begin to build in the belly of the body. Not a lot of fun when we have to move that body and the gas begins to escape out the nose, mouth, and anus. Not fun. That's capitalized goodness. That's terrible. And I feel bad for the bacteria the way that you start reading it. Yeah, that poor bacteria is trying to escape. It only has so much time before it's dead. Hurry, hurry. I just imagine then trying to rush to the stampede. You can see like the lights shutting off in the body as somebody dies, and the bacteria is just running, just running through the epic hallway that is the intestine. And they get to and they're like they jumped, They just like arms stretched out like Superman. You know that fight in the Fugitive where he jumps out of the pipe and down the waterfall. I was thinking more like that, like he goes flying out, oh man. But anyway, that the two main chemicals or gases that contribute to it the awful stench, have appropriate names putressen and cadaverian cadaverian cad cadavarian fitting fitting hope. This has been enlightening, Colleen, it was Thank you, Colleen. Yeah, Colleen, that was great. I loved it. We love experts. We're not experts. We're not, no, we are that. But anyway, thanks a lot for your emails and ideas and messages. Guys. Seriously, it's great. So thanks for that. And as we get closer to the end of the year now, I think that's what people are supposed to say, right, Thanks, thank you, guess yeah, yeah, thanks, thanks just kidding me. Thanks guys for supporting us in our inaugural year and giving us the energy to keep going. Yep. And we'll see you next year with more stuff, more surprises. We got to keep them coming. What are we going to talk about next week, Edwin, I mean next year. I don't know. It'll be a surprise. Why are you rolling your eyes? Whatever? Here, guys,